Thanks for the thoughtful replies. I think that Vanderhoth is right, it's that the violence feels targeted because of the the context it's in (the naked and spreadeagled women on tables and the implications therein vs guards killed cleanly and clothed) that make the women stand out. Same for the prostitutes in GTA.
On the other hand, I was also put off by the cop killing in GTA, so maybe a further examination is due, as you say.
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Farmville is not a game, it's a time tax on people who like to click the mouse.:P The only worse "game" is Fish Wrangler.
I am a woman and I play Diablo II, Mass Effect, Oblivion, etc. I can tell you that eventually I got tired of seeing the dead women spreadeagled on tables in the Harem level of Diablo II and was alienated by being able to kill female prostitutes in GTA. (Just two examples.) Also, I get tired of no eye candy for me, the eye candy always *is* me.
I think you're right; the "needs and preferences of women" thing is a bit disingenuous. My "needs and wants" are fewer rape jokes and less T&A in the games already produced. If you're going to have soft porn in your game (no problem with that), at least balance the gender a bit. Would you play completely through a game that had half naked men and only men that were half naked in it?
"Real has a poor reputation only because their Windows client was once a hotbed of malware and kludges. It isn't today, hasn't been for years..."
I didn't hear that their name was cleared, just because they removed the default settings that everyone complained about.... Fixing something once you get caught doesn't make you a paragon of virtue, even if you're on the Trust-e board of executives....:-P
I'm disappointed in this unholy triumvirate. What happened to "Don't be evil"?
I agree. Geeks who happen to be female are not inferior beings to be dictated to. (The point that you don't need an internet connection to play Nethack or derivatives not withstanding.)
However, being an accused ADOM junkie (god how I love that game), I might be biased.:)
Wendy
In the name of the sainted Thomas a Biskup, I salute you.
Just because someone's bitchy and biased doesn't mean they have to be female.:) Men can be just as fanatical as women. This guy used to be a director for what looks like a Lutheran children's center, according to his bio at the bottom of the page, so it's more than just ovaries fueling his indignation. I also found him quoted in this article: http://www.fnfvcv.org/news/news2.html that lists him as Bill France.
Unless that's him writing that article too, under another pen name.:)
Seriously: Cut out the Nurse Ratchet implications. We are not all ball cutters. We have a definite interest in our men keeping their balls.
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Thanks for the thoughtful replies. I think that Vanderhoth is right, it's that the violence feels targeted because of the the context it's in (the naked and spreadeagled women on tables and the implications therein vs guards killed cleanly and clothed) that make the women stand out. Same for the prostitutes in GTA.
On the other hand, I was also put off by the cop killing in GTA, so maybe a further examination is due, as you say.
PS Farmville is not a game, it's a time tax on people who like to click the mouse. :P The only worse "game" is Fish Wrangler.
I am a woman and I play Diablo II, Mass Effect, Oblivion, etc. I can tell you that eventually I got tired of seeing the dead women spreadeagled on tables in the Harem level of Diablo II and was alienated by being able to kill female prostitutes in GTA. (Just two examples.) Also, I get tired of no eye candy for me, the eye candy always *is* me. I think you're right; the "needs and preferences of women" thing is a bit disingenuous. My "needs and wants" are fewer rape jokes and less T&A in the games already produced. If you're going to have soft porn in your game (no problem with that), at least balance the gender a bit. Would you play completely through a game that had half naked men and only men that were half naked in it?
It can't be far behind, but it might not look like what you're thinking.... Remember King of the Hill? :)n g-of-hill-season-3.html
http://zvbxrpl.blogspot.com/2004/12/dvd-review-ki
"Real has a poor reputation only because their Windows client was once a hotbed of malware and kludges. It isn't today, hasn't been for years..."
:-P
I didn't hear that their name was cleared, just because they removed the default settings that everyone complained about.... Fixing something once you get caught doesn't make you a paragon of virtue, even if you're on the Trust-e board of executives....
I'm disappointed in this unholy triumvirate. What happened to "Don't be evil"?
I agree. Geeks who happen to be female are not inferior beings to be dictated to. (The point that you don't need an internet connection to play Nethack or derivatives not withstanding.)
:)
However, being an accused ADOM junkie (god how I love that game), I might be biased.
Wendy
In the name of the sainted Thomas a Biskup, I salute you.
Just because someone's bitchy and biased doesn't mean they have to be female. :) Men can be just as fanatical as women. This guy used to be a director for what looks like a Lutheran children's center, according to his bio at the bottom of the page, so it's more than just ovaries fueling his indignation. I also found him quoted in this article: http://www.fnfvcv.org/news/news2.html that lists him as Bill France.
Unless that's him writing that article too, under another pen name. :)
Seriously: Cut out the Nurse Ratchet implications. We are not all ball cutters. We have a definite interest in our men keeping their balls.
That's because we already have a nice bush. :-D
Nay, my porn-loving friend. There are those of us females who think command line is sexy. :) (And useful, too.)