I just want my browser to my simple, why does the Mozilla team not listen to the many voices repeating these words?
Because they don't make sense, he he.
What I meant to say was: I just want my browser to be simple, Mozilla team, I've lost all faith in humanity because Mozilla contains that shitty mail/news client and Netscape6 has AOL's garbage ( which I guess was inevitable ).
For my mozilla skin, I would like a location bar ( where I can enter the url ) and assuming you fix the keyboard commands for forward and back, NO other buttons, especially not that crappy little lock or shop or any other stupid crap. Ijust want my browser to my simple, why does the Mozilla team not listen to the many voices repeating these words?
NOW... in come the overclockers, and WOW, can these babies overclock!!!
Wow, did we read the same article? I was under the impression the article expressed a sense of disappointment that the celeron was so similiar to the coppermine. If anything the article convinced me that the celerons were "ho-hum" overclockers and weren't really worth the money, better to wait and see what is up AMD and Intel's sleeves.
The celeron version of the coppermine has recently been released. These guys wanted to Over clock two of them to see how they'd perform when compared to their higher cache counter parts. 2 566 celerons OC'd to 901mhz and 850mhz performed marginally better than a coppermine 650. The celeron un-overclocked performed much worse than the coppermine.
If any of this is wrong, its your fault... eyes on your own paper man.
Ever since I got my new PIII, my computer is doing the strangest thing, does anyone else's computer.... talk to them? Mine's got an Intel pottie mouth.
Sorry, I'm not moving to Linux for graphics apps for some time. Until Linux has a consistent system wide OS appearence for all software apps,
Sorry to be critical, but are you joking? Linux will never have a consistent sytstem wide OS appearance for all software apps. Never! And the reason is simple, there are already many style guides for different GUI toolkits, but because we ( read you, me, hemos, etc) write the apps we have the freedom to ignore the style guides and we do. Check out freshmeat, even though there are only a few GUI toolkits, most apps look very different. The only way I forsee you ever possibly reaching this goal is with the desktop environment people. If you use all kde stuff it looks pretty similiar, but if I write something in QT without an edit menu will that drive you crazy? Choice baby, that's what it's all about.
Corel tries hard, because Linux is their last foothold. Have you ever used Corel WP 8? It is really terrible. The University where I work, for some time supported both Office and WordPerfect, but WordPerfect just crashes too often and is a pain for all those involved.
In my own experience WP8 for linux crashes as well. I thought I was the only one who has experienced this, but a friend of mine who is new to linux complained the other day about how frightened he was while using it, that it would crash and lose his document again
In conclusion, If you are a proprietary company and your main product really sucks and is getting its ass kicked by the competitor, why not give it away for free? Revenue may be lower, but name recognition may increase.
Before seeing it on my computer my girlfriend had never heard of WordPerfect, I've used it since wp3 or wp4 on my Mom's 286? maybe 386?. This is what Corel is battling. If they didn't make this radical ( read desperate ) move... they would be sinking even faster than they currently are.
I'm really hoping the 'Final Fantasy' movie will be interesting.
My prediction for the Tomb Raider movie is:
1. horrible plot
2. overflowing with action
3. Strong female main character ( teenage girls will love it )
4. Teenage Boys will go for a glimpse of laura's cyber boobies ( Yes, they have the Nude-Raider patch, but the big screen is MUCH better )
I predict it will do ok, but certainly have little socially important information and more or less rob me of $7.50, $15.00+ if my girlfriend comes too.
anyone else notice that there seems to be a problem with posting in html? Well, nevermind it's probably fixed by the time you read this.
Assuming this is not an April Fools joke, this is ridiculous flamebait. I'm afraid to even read the posts.
Slashdot owners, for goodness sake, the only way you could promote even more terrible posts is to post articles such as "VI kicks ass, Emacs sucks", "KDE blows", "the Gtk icon makes more horny.", etc.... (These are just examples, not my opinion, don't get too upset:)
I'm ashamed. There are so many real articles, what is this crap.
As a 1 year user of linux i feel compelled to tell you... I too find such bashing annoying, although I do not use redhat (I'm a debian fan)... that you sound really perturbed and I guarantee that by changing your Slashdot threshold to 2 or even 3 your life will be much less stressful. Slashdot does not represent the linux community, sadly it seems to be mostly newer/immature users.
As an aside, I can't understand why anyone would be afraid of the command line. It is so much more productive then annoying GUI tools.
just so you know, I count 45 buggy packages in debian slink, thus it is by no mean perfect, if by perfect you mean mistake free. It is perfect however, if you're speaking of the state of mind free software and a totally free ( read non-profit) distro creates.
How do you install your debs on a regular basis?? I'd like to do a simliar kind of thing but I'm a little fearful of using apt-get's -y (say yes to everything) option which is what I assume your script does.
If you script does something more miraculous than this, could you post it? or send it my way? thanks
Nope, but they could destroy Apex and make other companies who might *wink* mistakenly leave such a devel feature in their product very frightened. I personally don't believe it was a mistake. Rather the ability was an easter-egg. A free prize for those swift/lucky enough to find it.
I personally would like to see more pseudo-illegal/contraversial addons in consumer products. It would be wonderful if my TV would delete my electric bill when I choose channel '999' repeatedly or my toaster gave me the porn channel when I cooked rye bread.
- but of course, I can't install anything without everything... bah!
sure you can. I use netscape navigator 4.72. Navigator is exactly what you want, just the browser and not any of the crap. If my link doesn't work for you try a real ftp client (eg ncftp) with passive mode off (in ncftp that is 'set passive off')) Infact I have netscape navigator configured to use Mutt as the email client with a little package called altmail. I don't have a url, but search freshmeat or the netscape site if interested.
I subscribe to the Gtk mailing list Redhat provides and I've overheard a large number of conversations to the effect of... if Swing (part of java 1.2) has a certain widget or feel Gtk will soon follow suit. It is my impression that Gtk authors seem to hold Java in very high regard. I'm not sure if this is because Java is OO or the GUI is clean/nice. Gtk GUIs may be like Windows, but they really want to be like Java/Swing.
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With such an open policy wouldn't it be terribly easy for students to cheat via email or irc? This is a neat idea, but really doesn't seem very practical to me. On the bright side though, it may save paper!
Why suggest proprietary software when instead we could tout free software? gv/gs (what have you) has read any/all pdf's i've fed it. You can even get an addon to read encrypted pdfs.
Personally I have a gripe with adobe for "expanding" postscript and the forcing people to pay (for everything but the reader that is). Adobe, You make so many great software packages, but Acrobat sucks. It is just glorified postscript (which i don't have a problem with), but it 1. It is not terribly stable here at work or at home [if it works for one of you out there, please no flames... It doesn't concern me if it works on your hardware, unless you are planning on giving said hardware to me (Which would be greatly appreciated...)] 2. Reminds me of windows (Again, if you disagree, piss off) and 3. it is ugly, especially when compared to ghostview.
That is cool! Can you email (or send a link to a howto) whatever you did to netscape to reduce the menu like that! I wasn't even aware you could do that. Goodbye SHOP button.
Of course the client is free, but do you have the developer software? the Streaming server software? As I understand this is what costs money. Not to mention that if you bought the pro version of the client that too costs $, although I'm not really sure if there is a big difference between that and the free client.
If you're into hacking the linux kernel you should join the kernel mailing list and hack away.
If for some reason your hardware is not supported by the 2.2.* tree, go for it. Compilation and use are no different than earlier kernels for the most part. By all means be sane and keep an old kernel ready with lilo if something goes wrong, but don't be afraid just because it says developmental. I've been running the 2.3.* tree with xfree's pre4.0 tree for a while. Unstable certainly does not mean it doesn't work.
1) Netscape is badly written junk (oh, sorry, I have a knack for being redundant).
Perhaps, what code have you written recently?
2) More seriously, Netscape on Linux needs 64 megs of memory. If Linux can't swap Netscape in and out fast enough, Netscape gets impatient and dies.
I think you're exaggerating. On my machine the ever accurate 'top' tells me my four netscape windows are 2 processes which are using 18meg and 2 meg of memory. If your netscape requires 64 meg, either upgrade or make sure your memory is not defective.
3) Netscape seems to have a HUGE memory leak that causes it to eat up memory, especially on pages with lots of images (ahem!).
I actually agreee with this. But netscape has never on my machine swelled to more than 30 meg (all processes)
4) Netscape can bring the entire system down if a) your CPU overheats or b) your video card overheats.
You lost me here. Any time a CPU overheats the system may be damaged. Netscape (read most/all software) cannot cause your hardware to overheat.
5) Netscape can also bring the entire system down if by some random chance it happens eat memory just as another process (syslog, etc.) tries to grab it, but for some reason Netscape wins the race. In this case, I've seen INIT panic and Ctrl-Alt-Del get disabled.
WHAT? This is not possbile. Linux uses protected memory. The OS won't let a program write over memory that is in use. This is a segfault. Not to mention that syslog is not a mandatory process, try 'killall -9 syslogd'. It will die and your box will march on
With a good OS, a bad application cannot and will not bring down your whole system.
I'll agree that one time X froze and I couldn't do anything but restart because xfstt died. (I wasn't even able to kill x and drop to a shell), but there is NO way netscape can stop Linux/*BSD. I simply do not believe you.
A good OS should not allow any application to bring it down. This does NOT mean that it will not let an application do this. Even good programmers have bugs from time to time. And even good programmers are no match for buggy engineering (i.e. F00F).
hey bacsially tell doubleclick what your cookie number is then they line that up with their direct marketing big database which in all probability has an entry for you already and viola, DoubleClick now knows what cookie goes with who
Perhaps I am wrong, but as I understood the cookie rfc, a cookie will only be returned to a site if the address is the same as the site that issued it, thus if xyz.com gives you a cookie, a script at doubleclick.com cannot access it.
What I forsee is that when xyz.com gets some info about you, they'll pop it into a shared database and all connected sites will know.
As for identifying you when you visit the page, ip-address is the only thing I forsee, unless you give them more info in which to identify you.
Another way to do this, although potentially harder, would be to do what was suggested here during the last round of postings and produce a plug-in which would suppress creation of cookies for domains external to the displayed page.
Netscape 4.7 already has an option of Only accept cookies from the same server as the page being viewed which is what I think you are refering to.
Do they just log IP addresses? What about us with dynamic IPs? Will each site try to palce a cookie and then store that info in the database for the other sites to share?
I've never heard of this company, can anyone name some of the sites they provide?
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I just want my browser to my simple, why does the Mozilla team not listen to the many voices repeating these words?
Because they don't make sense, he he.
What I meant to say was: I just want my browser to be simple, Mozilla team, I've lost all faith in humanity because Mozilla contains that shitty mail/news client and Netscape6 has AOL's garbage ( which I guess was inevitable ).
For my mozilla skin, I would like a location bar ( where I can enter the url ) and assuming you fix the keyboard commands for forward and back, NO other buttons, especially not that crappy little lock or shop or any other stupid crap. Ijust want my browser to my simple, why does the Mozilla team not listen to the many voices repeating these words?
NOW... in come the overclockers, and WOW, can these babies overclock!!!
Wow, did we read the same article? I was under the impression the article expressed a sense of disappointment that the celeron was so similiar to the coppermine. If anything the article convinced me that the celerons were "ho-hum" overclockers and weren't really worth the money, better to wait and see what is up AMD and Intel's sleeves.
Synopsis
The celeron version of the coppermine has recently been released. These guys wanted to Over clock two of them to see how they'd perform when compared to their higher cache counter parts. 2 566 celerons OC'd to 901mhz and 850mhz performed marginally better than a coppermine 650. The celeron un-overclocked performed much worse than the coppermine.
If any of this is wrong, its your fault... eyes on your own paper man.
Ever since I got my new PIII, my computer is doing the strangest thing, does anyone else's computer .... talk to them? Mine's got an Intel pottie mouth.
Sorry, I'm not moving to Linux for graphics apps for some time. Until Linux has a consistent system wide OS appearence for all software apps,
Sorry to be critical, but are you joking? Linux will never have a consistent sytstem wide OS appearance for all software apps. Never! And the reason is simple, there are already many style guides for different GUI toolkits, but because we ( read you, me, hemos, etc) write the apps we have the freedom to ignore the style guides and we do. Check out freshmeat, even though there are only a few GUI toolkits, most apps look very different. The only way I forsee you ever possibly reaching this goal is with the desktop environment people. If you use all kde stuff it looks pretty similiar, but if I write something in QT without an edit menu will that drive you crazy?
Choice baby, that's what it's all about.
Does there Linux run on PPC or x86 only?
Nope, it is x86 specific.
Corel tries hard, because Linux is their last foothold. Have you ever used Corel WP 8? It is really terrible. The University where I work, for some time supported both Office and WordPerfect, but WordPerfect just crashes too often and is a pain for all those involved.
In my own experience WP8 for linux crashes as well. I thought I was the only one who has experienced this, but a friend of mine who is new to linux complained the other day about how frightened he was while using it, that it would crash and lose his document again
In conclusion, If you are a proprietary company and your main product really sucks and is getting its ass kicked by the competitor, why not give it away for free? Revenue may be lower, but name recognition may increase.
Before seeing it on my computer my girlfriend had never heard of WordPerfect, I've used it since wp3 or wp4 on my Mom's 286? maybe 386?. This is what Corel is battling. If they didn't make this radical ( read desperate ) move... they would be sinking even faster than they currently are.
I'm really hoping the 'Final Fantasy' movie will be interesting.
My prediction for the Tomb Raider movie is:
1. horrible plot
2. overflowing with action
3. Strong female main character ( teenage girls will love it )
4. Teenage Boys will go for a glimpse of laura's cyber boobies ( Yes, they have the Nude-Raider patch, but the big screen is MUCH better )
I predict it will do ok, but certainly have little socially important information and more or less rob me of $7.50, $15.00+ if my girlfriend comes too.
anyone else notice that there seems to be a problem with posting in html? Well, nevermind it's probably fixed by the time you read this.
Assuming this is not an April Fools joke, this is ridiculous flamebait. I'm afraid to even read the posts.
Slashdot owners, for goodness sake, the only way you could promote even more terrible posts is to post articles such as "VI kicks ass, Emacs sucks", "KDE blows", "the Gtk icon makes more horny.", etc.... (These are just examples, not my opinion, don't get too upset:)
I'm ashamed. There are so many real articles, what is this crap.
Offtopic, but interesting.... Where does one find the exact standard? w3c.org, I'd bet... If I'm way off please post its location.
I wasn't aware an image's ALT tag was required to be html4 compliant...
As a 1 year user of linux i feel compelled to tell you... I too find such bashing annoying, although I do not use redhat (I'm a debian fan)... that you sound really perturbed and I guarantee that by changing your Slashdot threshold to 2 or even 3 your life will be much less stressful. Slashdot does not represent the linux community, sadly it seems to be mostly newer/immature users.
As an aside, I can't understand why anyone would be afraid of the command line. It is so much more productive then annoying GUI tools.
just so you know, I count 45 buggy packages in debian slink, thus it is by no mean perfect, if by perfect you mean mistake free. It is perfect however, if you're speaking of the state of mind free software and a totally free ( read non-profit) distro creates.
How do you install your debs on a regular basis?? I'd like to do a simliar kind of thing but I'm a little fearful of using apt-get's -y (say yes to everything) option which is what I assume your script does.
If you script does something more miraculous than this, could you post it? or send it my way? thanks
Nope, but they could destroy Apex and make other companies who might *wink* mistakenly leave such a devel feature in their product very frightened. I personally don't believe it was a mistake. Rather the ability was an easter-egg. A free prize for those swift/lucky enough to find it.
I personally would like to see more pseudo-illegal/contraversial addons in consumer products. It would be wonderful if my TV would delete my electric bill when I choose channel '999' repeatedly or my toaster gave me the porn channel when I cooked rye bread.
- but of course, I can't install anything without everything... bah!
sure you can. I use netscape navigator 4.72. Navigator is exactly what you want, just the browser and not any of the crap. If my link doesn't work for you try a real ftp client (eg ncftp) with passive mode off (in ncftp that is 'set passive off')) Infact I have netscape navigator configured to use Mutt as the email client with a little package called altmail. I don't have a url, but search freshmeat or the netscape site if interested.
I subscribe to the Gtk mailing list Redhat provides and I've overheard a large number of conversations to the effect of... if Swing (part of java 1.2) has a certain widget or feel Gtk will soon follow suit. It is my impression that Gtk authors seem to hold Java in very high regard. I'm not sure if this is because Java is OO or the GUI is clean/nice. Gtk GUIs may be like Windows, but they really want to be like Java/Swing.
With such an open policy wouldn't it be terribly easy for students to cheat via email or irc? This is a neat idea, but really doesn't seem very practical to me. On the bright side though, it may save paper!
Why suggest proprietary software when instead we could tout free software? gv/gs (what have you) has read any/all pdf's i've fed it. You can even get an addon to read encrypted pdfs.
Personally I have a gripe with adobe for "expanding" postscript and the forcing people to pay (for everything but the reader that is). Adobe, You make so many great software packages, but Acrobat sucks. It is just glorified postscript (which i don't have a problem with), but it 1. It is not terribly stable here at work or at home [if it works for one of you out there, please no flames... It doesn't concern me if it works on your hardware, unless you are planning on giving said hardware to me (Which would be greatly appreciated...)] 2. Reminds me of windows (Again, if you disagree, piss off) and 3. it is ugly, especially when compared to ghostview.
That is cool! Can you email (or send a link to a howto) whatever you did to netscape to reduce the menu like that! I wasn't even aware you could do that. Goodbye SHOP button.
my email is mcorde61@xSPAMxmaine.edu
(email =~ s/^(.*)x.*x(.*)$/$1$2/ of course :)
Of course the client is free, but do you have the developer software? the Streaming server software? As I understand this is what costs money. Not to mention that if you bought the pro version of the client that too costs $, although I'm not really sure if there is a big difference between that and the free client.
If you're into hacking the linux kernel you should join the kernel mailing list and hack away.
If for some reason your hardware is not supported by the 2.2.* tree, go for it. Compilation and use are no different than earlier kernels for the most part. By all means be sane and keep an old kernel ready with lilo if something goes wrong, but don't be afraid just because it says developmental. I've been running the 2.3.* tree with xfree's pre4.0 tree for a while. Unstable certainly does not mean it doesn't work.
1) Netscape is badly written junk (oh, sorry, I have a knack for being redundant).
Perhaps, what code have you written recently?
2) More seriously, Netscape on Linux needs 64 megs of memory. If Linux can't swap Netscape in and out fast enough, Netscape gets impatient and dies.
I think you're exaggerating. On my machine the ever accurate 'top' tells me my four netscape windows are 2 processes which are using 18meg and 2 meg of memory. If your netscape requires 64 meg, either upgrade or make sure your memory is not defective.
3) Netscape seems to have a HUGE memory leak that causes it to eat up memory, especially on pages with lots of images (ahem!).
I actually agreee with this. But netscape has never on my machine swelled to more than 30 meg (all processes)
4) Netscape can bring the entire system down if a) your CPU overheats or b) your video card overheats.
You lost me here. Any time a CPU overheats the system may be damaged. Netscape (read most/all software) cannot cause your hardware to overheat.
5) Netscape can also bring the entire system down if by some random chance it happens eat memory just as another process (syslog, etc.) tries to grab it, but for some reason Netscape wins the race. In this case, I've seen INIT panic and Ctrl-Alt-Del get disabled.
WHAT? This is not possbile. Linux uses protected memory. The OS won't let a program write over memory that is in use. This is a segfault. Not to mention that syslog is not a mandatory process, try 'killall -9 syslogd'. It will die and your box will march on
With a good OS, a bad application cannot and will not bring down your whole system.
I'll agree that one time X froze and I couldn't do anything but restart because xfstt died. (I wasn't even able to kill x and drop to a shell), but there is NO way netscape can stop Linux/*BSD. I simply do not believe you.
A good OS should not allow any application to bring it down. This does NOT mean that it will not let an application do this. Even good programmers have bugs from time to time. And even good programmers are no match for buggy engineering (i.e. F00F).
Thats right! Ever tried BSD? Linux?
Can you tell me more? How does someone do this? (I'm on my way to read the rfc right now)
hey bacsially tell doubleclick what your cookie number is then they line that up with their direct marketing big database which in all probability has an entry for you already and viola, DoubleClick now knows what cookie goes with who
Perhaps I am wrong, but as I understood the cookie rfc, a cookie will only be returned to a site if the address is the same as the site that issued it, thus if xyz.com gives you a cookie, a script at doubleclick.com cannot access it.
What I forsee is that when xyz.com gets some info about you, they'll pop it into a shared database and all connected sites will know.
As for identifying you when you visit the page, ip-address is the only thing I forsee, unless you give them more info in which to identify you.
Another way to do this, although potentially harder, would be to do what was suggested here during the last round of postings and produce a plug-in which would suppress creation of cookies for domains external to the displayed page.
Netscape 4.7 already has an option of Only accept cookies from the same server as the page being viewed which is what I think you are refering to.
Do they just log IP addresses? What about us with dynamic IPs? Will each site try to palce a cookie and then store that info in the database for the other sites to share?
I've never heard of this company, can anyone name some of the sites they provide?