Well, not long ago I had a/home partition that was ReiserFS, and I didn't really want to format it just to install RedHat, so redhat let me use the partition "as-is". I haven't tried using a root partition that's formatted as ReiserFS, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
RedHat probably just lets you use a ReiserFS partition if you already have one, because they wouldn't win many friends if they forced everybody to format their ReiserFS partitions as ext3, making them lose all their data. If you're going to be formatting a partition during the install _anyway_, then they want you to be using ext3, and don't give you much choice.
can somebody explain this sentence to me? I am not sure what he is talking about.
If you've ever done a RedHat install recently, you might have noticed that while it will let you use a pre-existing ReiserFS partition, it won't let you format a partition as ReiserFS before using it.
So, if you really, really, really want to use ReiserFS with RedHat, you have to preformat the partition before starting the installer, then tell the installer not to format the partition for you.
Just thought of something the second I hit submit -- imagine all of the anti-linux people (in a couple years from now, or so) if this plan were to go through: "Well, linux might be a respectable operating system, but they couldn't have done it without all that money they stole from Microsoft!"
No, I don't like this idea at all. Let microsoft have their billions of dollars, it'll only give Linux a bad name. We can take over the world without it, thanks.
Stealing 10% from Microsoft just because they're Microsoft isn't a good thing, even if it is to fund Open Source. How would that level the playing field, anyway? Microsoft would still have revenues measured in billions of dollars, so what if the open source guys get some of their chump change?
Microsft needs to fail as a business on it's own merits, not on the merits of extorting 10% of their money and using it to further the Open Source cause.
Actually, when you delete a file in linux (or any other *nix), you do not actually delete it yet when a process still has a handle to it; it only becomes unopenable for processes. Only when the last process that has a handle to it closes that handle, the disk-space containing the data for that file will be freed.
I always figured it was because when you "delete" a file, it just makes the inode stop pointing at the data, it doesn't actually destroy the data. That way, if a program already had the file open, it would "know" where on the disk the data is, and it would still be able to access it, even though the inode it used to open the file has been freed.
But within the small core group, the personalities and philosphies of the NT team and the Linux folks are remarkably similar,
Sorry, but I call bullshit. If the NT team has a similar philosophy as the Linux people, why the hell aren't they releasing their work as open source? Is it because Microsoft won't let them, or because their philosophy is actually not comparable to that of the Linux team's?
Is there any open filesystem that operates in a similar manner?
I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but I'd say "all of them."
The way I understand it is that on Linux/unix, if you're using a file, it gets loaded into memory and then the copy of the file on the disk becomes completely irrelevant. Case in point: delete an mp3 while xmms is playing it; xmms will keep on playing it without any trouble. I've also moved/renamed files that were being actively downloaded by BitTorrent, and they came out fine.
Have you ever played with the linux internals? Or hacked on X or KDE? If you have, you know its a mess. Syllable is a consistent system built on modern ideas. We don't have 20 years of cruft to fight with everytime we need to make a change or add a feature. This alone is worth the effort.
Wasn't that the whole point of BeOS? To make a unix-like system that was great for multimedia and not full of cruft from the last 30 years of unix development.
If you're starting your own project just because you reject linux's cruft, why not just work on BeOS then?
Before we had a "conscience", survival of the fittest, natural selection, sexual selection and general wars, famine, etc, did this for us.
Yeah, but now we have these crazy things like Hospitals and medicine, which really screws up evolution, because the so-called "weak" are no longer killed before they are allowed to procreate.
There's this amazing new technology that have been called 'optical cameras'. The idea is an interesting one: a lense refracts light onto a piece of photosensitive material known as "film". This film can then be developed into regular pictures, with qualities far surpassing any of their digital counterparts.
In other words, get an optical camera, and mail the film to yourself. Have it developed when you get home.
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CO2 is not pollution?
I wouldn't consider CO2 to be pollution any more than I would consider my own exhaling to be pollution.
Granted, it's not good for the environment in mass quantities, but just plant some trees; they breath the stuff and "exhale" oxygen for us to breathe.
The world's real problem is overpopulation of human beings. Alternative energy projects are a band-aide hiding the ultimate challenge for humanity, which is how to reduce the population.
Hey, why don't we start killing stupid and ugly people? That way, humanity could evolve into a race of super humans who are all incredibly good looking and intelligent! And then we could kill all the Jews, nobody likes them anyway, and after that...
Instead of implying genocide by saying "reduce the population", I think we should focus more on educating the people everywhere about birth control. Instead of killing people, all we really have to do is make the world's birth rate become less than the world's death rate (without artificially increasing the death rate). Then the overpopulations problem would just sort itself out in a couple generations or so.
It would seem wiser to support a solution that favors the best tool for the job, which may not always be an open source product.
What is this? A level-headed and unbiased comment about a law mandating open source? THIS IS SLASHDOT BUDDY, THAT KIND OF THING IS NOT TOLERATED HERE!!
Actually, I've heard that the original measurement of "feet" was literally just the length of the King's foot, whoever the King happened to be at that time.
"Hey Jim, how tall are you?" "Gee I dunno Bob, how long are the King's feet?"
Of course, they've since standardized the length so that it doesn't change every time we get a new King...
Right. It's secure because they removed all the things that make a computer worth using. No command shell? How do you do remote administration? Bleh, i could go on, but I don't care.
its quite amusing that there are over 200 or 300 known vulnerabilities in RedHat over the years
I think you mean "200 or 300 fixed vulnerabilities". That's just how it goes, I guess. They find a problem, it is disclosed, and fixed. End of story. Unlike other OS's that try to hide all their problems instead of fixing them and being honest about it. Whatever.
--- too bad the linux community is so stubborn that they refuse to understand that the Mac has always been the most secure OS for servers.
Too stubborn, or too poor? I'd buy a Mac if I could, but I'm not a billionaire. Commodity PC hardware + Linux = cheap access to fun technology.
Also, the drop-off of bandwidth as a function of distance from the phone company's substation is pretty rapid.
Frankly, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. It must suck to live in the US, that's all I can say.
I live in a medium sized Canadian city, and ALL ADSL customers get 150k/s down, 50k/s up. Regardless of location. Oh yeah, and I've looked and looked and looked, but I can NOT find availability data on my ISP's website. I can only assume this to mean that ADSL is available to the entire city. I sure didn't have any trouble getting it here, in my oldish neighborhood.
The phone lines are remarkably unreliable, too. When we had dialup, it routinely took 3 or 4 tries just to get a connection, and then it kept cutting out. We switched to ADSL, and BAM! everything was great. Fast, reliable, no troubles at all.
Besides, all that said, I consider your ADSL (via phone lines) slow because I have a cable modem.:-D
Funny you should bring that up, because the cable company here caps you at 9k/s up AND down. So my connection is considerably faster than cable.
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Really now? What's their explanation for that?
/home partition that was ReiserFS, and I didn't really want to format it just to install RedHat, so redhat let me use the partition "as-is". I haven't tried using a root partition that's formatted as ReiserFS, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Well, not long ago I had a
RedHat probably just lets you use a ReiserFS partition if you already have one, because they wouldn't win many friends if they forced everybody to format their ReiserFS partitions as ext3, making them lose all their data. If you're going to be formatting a partition during the install _anyway_, then they want you to be using ext3, and don't give you much choice.
Morally opposed to stealing, and you choose Gates as your poster-victim?
Just because MS is guilty of breaking laws and just generally shady business practices doesn't mean they deserve to be stolen from.
I may not be the best human being alive, but does that mean the guy who stole my bicycle last friday was justified in doing so?
>If only the largest distro was so permissive....
can somebody explain this sentence to me? I am not sure what he is talking about.
If you've ever done a RedHat install recently, you might have noticed that while it will let you use a pre-existing ReiserFS partition, it won't let you format a partition as ReiserFS before using it.
So, if you really, really, really want to use ReiserFS with RedHat, you have to preformat the partition before starting the installer, then tell the installer not to format the partition for you.
Does anyone else feel like they've learned more on their own than in school?
Is there even anybody that feels like they learned more in school?!?
Just thought of something the second I hit submit -- imagine all of the anti-linux people (in a couple years from now, or so) if this plan were to go through: "Well, linux might be a respectable operating system, but they couldn't have done it without all that money they stole from Microsoft!"
No, I don't like this idea at all. Let microsoft have their billions of dollars, it'll only give Linux a bad name. We can take over the world without it, thanks.
Stealing 10% from Microsoft just because they're Microsoft isn't a good thing, even if it is to fund Open Source. How would that level the playing field, anyway? Microsoft would still have revenues measured in billions of dollars, so what if the open source guys get some of their chump change?
Microsft needs to fail as a business on it's own merits, not on the merits of extorting 10% of their money and using it to further the Open Source cause.
Actually, when you delete a file in linux (or any other *nix), you do not actually delete it yet when a process still has a handle to it; it only becomes unopenable for processes. Only when the last process that has a handle to it closes that handle, the disk-space containing the data for that file will be freed.
I always figured it was because when you "delete" a file, it just makes the inode stop pointing at the data, it doesn't actually destroy the data. That way, if a program already had the file open, it would "know" where on the disk the data is, and it would still be able to access it, even though the inode it used to open the file has been freed.
But within the small core group, the personalities and philosphies of the NT team and the Linux folks are remarkably similar,
Sorry, but I call bullshit. If the NT team has a similar philosophy as the Linux people, why the hell aren't they releasing their work as open source? Is it because Microsoft won't let them, or because their philosophy is actually not comparable to that of the Linux team's?
Is there any open filesystem that operates in a similar manner?
I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but I'd say "all of them."
The way I understand it is that on Linux/unix, if you're using a file, it gets loaded into memory and then the copy of the file on the disk becomes completely irrelevant. Case in point: delete an mp3 while xmms is playing it; xmms will keep on playing it without any trouble. I've also moved/renamed files that were being actively downloaded by BitTorrent, and they came out fine.
Gimme a break. Science camps all over the continent have been doing this for years. It's easy:
1. Get cream
2. Add liquid nitrogen, which freezes the cream then evaporates
3. You've got ice cream.
he named it Freax, but the FTP server administrator renamed it to Linux
You have GOT to be kidding. Freax is the worst name for anything that anybody could have ever thought of.
Imagine the MS FUD campaign: "Freax: The operating system for freaks"
Have you ever played with the linux internals? Or hacked on X or KDE? If you have, you know its a mess. Syllable is a consistent system built on modern ideas. We don't have 20 years of cruft to fight with everytime we need to make a change or add a feature. This alone is worth the effort.
Wasn't that the whole point of BeOS? To make a unix-like system that was great for multimedia and not full of cruft from the last 30 years of unix development.
If you're starting your own project just because you reject linux's cruft, why not just work on BeOS then?
Before we had a "conscience", survival of the fittest, natural selection, sexual selection and general wars, famine, etc, did this for us.
Yeah, but now we have these crazy things like Hospitals and medicine, which really screws up evolution, because the so-called "weak" are no longer killed before they are allowed to procreate.
I think windows crash so much because (part of the reason) it runs on so many kinds of hardware
That is such a load of bullshit. Linux runs on much more varied hardware than windows does.
There's this amazing new technology that have been called 'optical cameras'. The idea is an interesting one: a lense refracts light onto a piece of photosensitive material known as "film". This film can then be developed into regular pictures, with qualities far surpassing any of their digital counterparts.
In other words, get an optical camera, and mail the film to yourself. Have it developed when you get home.
CO2 is not pollution?
I wouldn't consider CO2 to be pollution any more than I would consider my own exhaling to be pollution.
Granted, it's not good for the environment in mass quantities, but just plant some trees; they breath the stuff and "exhale" oxygen for us to breathe.
The world's real problem is overpopulation of human beings. Alternative energy projects are a band-aide hiding the ultimate challenge for humanity, which is how to reduce the population.
Hey, why don't we start killing stupid and ugly people? That way, humanity could evolve into a race of super humans who are all incredibly good looking and intelligent! And then we could kill all the Jews, nobody likes them anyway, and after that...
Instead of implying genocide by saying "reduce the population", I think we should focus more on educating the people everywhere about birth control. Instead of killing people, all we really have to do is make the world's birth rate become less than the world's death rate (without artificially increasing the death rate). Then the overpopulations problem would just sort itself out in a couple generations or so.
It would seem wiser to support a solution that favors the best tool for the job, which may not always be an open source product.
What is this? A level-headed and unbiased comment about a law mandating open source? THIS IS SLASHDOT BUDDY, THAT KIND OF THING IS NOT TOLERATED HERE!!
It'd be interesting to find out where they came up with inches!
:)
Well you see, the King at the time had 12 toes, so that was the natural number of inches that would fit into a foot...
Actually, I've heard that the original measurement of "feet" was literally just the length of the King's foot, whoever the King happened to be at that time.
"Hey Jim, how tall are you?"
"Gee I dunno Bob, how long are the King's feet?"
Of course, they've since standardized the length so that it doesn't change every time we get a new King...
I guess. I'd take SSH over webmin anyday, however.
I guess I just don't know what all the hoop.la is about. :)
Why is is hack proof?
Right. It's secure because they removed all the things that make a computer worth using. No command shell? How do you do remote administration? Bleh, i could go on, but I don't care.
its quite amusing that there are over 200 or 300 known vulnerabilities in RedHat over the years
I think you mean "200 or 300 fixed vulnerabilities". That's just how it goes, I guess. They find a problem, it is disclosed, and fixed. End of story. Unlike other OS's that try to hide all their problems instead of fixing them and being honest about it. Whatever.
--- too bad the linux community is so stubborn that they refuse to understand that the Mac has always been the most secure OS for servers.
Too stubborn, or too poor? I'd buy a Mac if I could, but I'm not a billionaire. Commodity PC hardware + Linux = cheap access to fun technology.
Also, the drop-off of bandwidth as a function of distance from the phone company's substation is pretty rapid.
:-D
Frankly, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. It must suck to live in the US, that's all I can say.
I live in a medium sized Canadian city, and ALL ADSL customers get 150k/s down, 50k/s up. Regardless of location. Oh yeah, and I've looked and looked and looked, but I can NOT find availability data on my ISP's website. I can only assume this to mean that ADSL is available to the entire city. I sure didn't have any trouble getting it here, in my oldish neighborhood.
The phone lines are remarkably unreliable, too. When we had dialup, it routinely took 3 or 4 tries just to get a connection, and then it kept cutting out. We switched to ADSL, and BAM! everything was great. Fast, reliable, no troubles at all.
Besides, all that said, I consider your ADSL (via phone lines) slow because I have a cable modem.
Funny you should bring that up, because the cable company here caps you at 9k/s up AND down. So my connection is considerably faster than cable.
POS means POINT OF SALE!
As in, cash registers!