This system is so sophisticated they tracked it for 211 miles across the country.
For a pioneering system, this sounds very well integrated or they are just using the bad news to give a reason for the cameras. It was only last week we heard about this for the first time.
I don't like living in the UK. Big brother really is watching us:(
(Though I am very pleased they caught these crooks in this instance, I still don't see why a criminal would go up north, rob a store then flee to the biggest city in the country. Don't these people think about lying low?)
Ok, theres a user here on slashdot called Fatal1ty
What are the chances now that this guy is the real one, or its just a troll using his name?
How much respect does a name get you, and how would an online site decide who was the real Fatal1ty? (I only ask this after taco's recent ponderment about WoW banning his account)
On the Sony site, they are talking about a secure updater which removes the rootkit:
If you obtain regular security updates from a major anti-virus service, you should receive an update through that process. You may also download the update yourself from http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/updates.html.
The update its talking about simply removes the rootkit, but does not remove the copy protection portion.
Therefore, I believe these disks will still be executable in format (besides, any with images/videos on will need the media player software as well...)
Just read the home page on the sony site, they still don't get it:
Going forward, we will continue to identify new ways to meet demands for flexibility in how you and other consumers listen to music.
We just want true cds without any bullshit, plain and simple.
I certainly don't hunt and peck for my keys, I just generally look away from the screen (especially true when I'm thinking about something, I'm not generally looking at anything in particular)
When I am typing notes etc I read from the paper and touch type properly.
I don't see the need most of the time to actually look at the screen. I can type faster than most around me and have never seen a problem with it at all until this popped up:)
I don't look up at my screen most of the stuff I am typing, its just in the peripheral vision most of the time. I know what I'm typing and expect it to be displayed as typed.
As it happened, just like I'm typing this now, I got the the end of a paragraph and pressing enter when I noticed this box and stopped what I was doing.
3 seconds doesn't help... it just quite simply should not have automatically come up, especially since a software update could be unwanted or inpractical at that moment.
I was concerned something had invaded my system, its been a while since something unexpected popped up (having seen a popup ad in yonks).
I was in the middle of typing a posting and this thing popped up taking away focus. Didn't have full time to check, but hitting return would/could have started the update process off without informed consent.
I realise they want to get it updated, but I think the new regime is just a bit too forceful - it should be on application startup and not checking whilst I'm browsing.
I have 1gb memory in my machine and for a while ran with virtual mem turned off, more and more recently it was giving the "windows is running low on virtual memory..." type messages, games like halflife 2 requiring around 500mb, firefox can eat over 100mb, the other "standard" windows stuff eat another 200, and if I happen to leave one or two other things on it dies.
1.25gb might sound like enough, and some people may never hit the boundary, but disabling it entirely is a worse option than having programs crash.
I would like to prioritise memory so that as much as possible don't use the disk, but if a request comes in that is outside available space THEN goto disk, it doesn't make much sense "saving" your memory by using disk for everything used a few times in the systems uptime.
This doesn't appear to break backwards compatibility. All it does is force MS software onto new hardware. Double plus good for tech support in their eyes, just makes the TCO increase for the end user.
No more running server from that old p166 lying around. What it might do is make the driver compatibility easier, for instance, is there 64bit mobos with ISA slots?
I *am* using Ubuntu. Whatever my issue is, if I as the local computer nerd am having trouble doing what I want with the system, how in the hell is joe bloggs user?
Bringing standards into linux and converging lots of areas would save both myself and many others from a nightmare. I am already happy with the stable packages available from within Synaptic, but most of the stuff I want to try doesn't exist there, whether it is because its beta, or because its just in the wrong package format.
I find it easier downloading and evaluating an open source project by using the Windows setup directly from the website rather than trying to find the exact same project from within Synaptic.
Windows software is Windows software - full stop. Why isn't linux the same?
I download and run things for windows without having some complicated pathway, why can't Linux be the same?
Its not that I don't trust the repository, its commonly that I am reading a site about programX and I want to try it. Not everything is in the repository, infact the majority of small OSS projects aren't there.
Currently I have to come away from the website open synaptic, do a search and see if the software is there (usually with some flicking around to confirm its actually what I need and that its the right version) then I have to download it, then play the fun game of which frikkin menu has it gone into just to run a program once and go "nope, not good enough uninstall, or yer I like that." Uninstall is backwards, except I have to wade through lists of things I haven't installed just to find the ones I have to uninstall it.
In Windows, the same thing really is point click [DOWNLOAD NOW], Select mirror, Next Next Next - "Start->All Programs->Author->ProgramX" Hmmmmmm do I like this? nope, right Control Panel/Addremove and its gone, or keep it.
Its just frustrating and confusing and I thought I was comfortable with computers, its the most complicated "user" oriented OS I have ever tried to use.
Now for the rub, I love the principles of OSS. I am sticking with it and persevering because I believe in what can be achieved with it. I run OSS as much as possible and routinely scout around sourceforge or freshmeat for new little projects (hence my frustration at synaptic). I just wish Linux was as simple to play with as Windows:(
The biggest problem I have seen with Linux is its too specific. I have seen wonderful one shot solutions to numerous problems, ranging from a simple shell script to full applications. Every single problem appears to have 10x different alternative variations on the solution.
If OSS people could work together and specify their problems and develop a general solution to the problem at hand, then linux will work for the masses.
People just don't want to "try before they buy" or "find the best one that suits you" for 16 different word processors, they want to get the one that will do the job. They don't want to have to worry about the distro choice because all software marked "Linux compatible" should work on it (without worrying about RPM TGZ and however many upyourarse variations there may be).
I have been examining Ubuntu rather closely recently and whilst I like what it offers, I'm still a newbie and find it confusing to examine projects - I can get things from my synaptic installer and I can add repositories to make more things available, but I still can't suss out how to go to the applications' homepage and download/run a single package - from a Windows perspective, I have come to trust the programs more when I can download them directly from the authors homepage, I don't like to get from secondary sources.
I realise theres probably a really simple super whizzbang command line sequence to do it and I've gone down along this route and looked into things like alien (for bringing in rpms), but why the hell is there such a conflict between packages, its all for Linux afterall.
When I'm in Linux I feel like I'm operating a betamax.
I would imagine that such a system could be simple in a dual cpu setup and from a logical point of view would be nice to do on a process basis.
However, the system wouldn't appear to scale too well. The overheads of scanning every other read only block would soon mean a reduction in the work done, not to mention the security nitemare that would unfold.
IPC using a shared memory model means each entity only has to check his own event queue and doesn't need to bother about anything else.
Of course, as per my sig I might be completely wrong.
I say if there is someone alive now who survived the plague way back when then we should be studying him for his immortability rather than his HIV resistance.
The Sony uninstaller is an ActiveX object marked safe for scripting (which means any website can use it in their code)
Its got some wonderful entries which still leave holes in your system (like rebooting your computer, and a method called "ExecuteCode") The guys has only just started work, but has an expliotable test together which will reboot your machine.
Look here for more info about Sony uninstallation fun.
YOu get on the phone or send an email to the owner of the machine and enquire just why there is a shitload of bandwidth coming from their station. If theres not a reasonable response then you disconnect them from the net.
Simple as, this isn't some home user we are talking about, its a corporate system and the company owns the bandwidth.
Slashdot Mirror
This system is so sophisticated they tracked it for 211 miles across the country.
:(
For a pioneering system, this sounds very well integrated or they are just using the bad news to give a reason for the cameras. It was only last week we heard about this for the first time.
I don't like living in the UK. Big brother really is watching us
(Though I am very pleased they caught these crooks in this instance, I still don't see why a criminal would go up north, rob a store then flee to the biggest city in the country. Don't these people think about lying low?)
Ok, theres a user here on slashdot called Fatal1ty
What are the chances now that this guy is the real one, or its just a troll using his name?
How much respect does a name get you, and how would an online site decide who was the real Fatal1ty?
(I only ask this after taco's recent ponderment about WoW banning his account)
The list is amusing, heres the few on the page:
First tag: lies (6mullet on Nov 17, 2005)
Last tag: Propaganda
Lies (7),Propaganda (5),Childish Name Calling (4),Unfounded assertions (4),Slander (4),Unscientific (4),Defamation (3),Self-promoting with fake reviews (3),Biased (3),lies (3),Racist (2),Scaremonger (2),toilet-paper (2),Money grabbing lawyer (2),Ambulance Chaser (2)
The amazon page listing them is here.
That's nothing, I installed Linux and now I've got a colony of penguins living in my freezer.
I'm dreading the upgrade to BSD.
Sony Spokesperson: "Insert this CD and we will gladly do the rooting for you :)"
On the Sony site, they are talking about a secure updater which removes the rootkit:
If you obtain regular security updates from a major anti-virus service, you should receive an update through that process. You may also download the update yourself from http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/updates.html.
The update its talking about simply removes the rootkit, but does not remove the copy protection portion.
Therefore, I believe these disks will still be executable in format (besides, any with images/videos on will need the media player software as well...)
Just read the home page on the sony site, they still don't get it:
Going forward, we will continue to identify new ways to meet demands for flexibility in how you and other consumers listen to music.
We just want true cds without any bullshit, plain and simple.
Anyone who publicly shares Celine Dion tracks deserves to be publically ridiculed anyway, so bring it on I say :)
I'm surprised that either of the users didn't sue you.
As an ISP, your company should lose its common carrier status by probing the datastream in the manner you did.
There is a difference between checking out the bandwidth utilisation and probing inside somebodies data.
Besides, I wanna download the rest of my footporn, can you zip it up and sent it to me, you already know my ip.
I certainly don't hunt and peck for my keys, I just generally look away from the screen (especially true when I'm thinking about something, I'm not generally looking at anything in particular)
:)
When I am typing notes etc I read from the paper and touch type properly.
I don't see the need most of the time to actually look at the screen.
I can type faster than most around me and have never seen a problem with it at all until this popped up
Actually, the default is still to warn people that their themes or extensions are going to get vaped (was was the case with me).
I don't look up at my screen most of the stuff I am typing, its just in the peripheral vision most of the time. I know what I'm typing and expect it to be displayed as typed.
As it happened, just like I'm typing this now, I got the the end of a paragraph and pressing enter when I noticed this box and stopped what I was doing.
3 seconds doesn't help... it just quite simply should not have automatically come up, especially since a software update could be unwanted or inpractical at that moment.
I was concerned something had invaded my system, its been a while since something unexpected popped up (having seen a popup ad in yonks).
I was in the middle of typing a posting and this thing popped up taking away focus.
Didn't have full time to check, but hitting return would/could have started the update process off without informed consent.
I realise they want to get it updated, but I think the new regime is just a bit too forceful - it should be on application startup and not checking whilst I'm browsing.
What is a (better informed) user wants to play the CD despite the rootkit?
Rule #1: Disable Autorun.
If microsoft had disabled this action by default, it would have prevented this being a widespread problem in the firstplace.
AUdio CDs should be nothing more than data. A media player is installed on every single computer that can play audio CDs.
Sony should not have messed with that, and if MS had defaulted it then 1st$ wouldn't have exploited it.
I have 1gb memory in my machine and for a while ran with virtual mem turned off, more and more recently it was giving the "windows is running low on virtual memory..." type messages, games like halflife 2 requiring around 500mb, firefox can eat over 100mb, the other "standard" windows stuff eat another 200, and if I happen to leave one or two other things on it dies.
1.25gb might sound like enough, and some people may never hit the boundary, but disabling it entirely is a worse option than having programs crash.
I would like to prioritise memory so that as much as possible don't use the disk, but if a request comes in that is outside available space THEN goto disk, it doesn't make much sense "saving" your memory by using disk for everything used a few times in the systems uptime.
If one was so inclined, could a ficticious person download and grab the code from a validated machine and paste it in from an unvalidated machine?
Just out of curiosity you understand..
1st4: "We have this super code which stops 'teh kiddies' from copying"
Sony: "Cool, lets see."
1st4: "Its already on, go ahead try and copy it"
Sony: "Oooooooh, and they won't find it will they?"
1st4: "Never. We are teh elite blackhats."
Sony: "Ok be quiet about that one, when you you be ready to ship?"
This doesn't appear to break backwards compatibility.
All it does is force MS software onto new hardware.
Double plus good for tech support in their eyes, just makes the TCO increase for the end user.
No more running server from that old p166 lying around.
What it might do is make the driver compatibility easier, for instance, is there 64bit mobos with ISA slots?
Good seller, swift download
Would download again , a1 GREAT SELLER +++++++++++++++++++
I *am* using Ubuntu.
Whatever my issue is, if I as the local computer nerd am having trouble doing what I want with the system, how in the hell is joe bloggs user?
Bringing standards into linux and converging lots of areas would save both myself and many others from a nightmare.
I am already happy with the stable packages available from within Synaptic, but most of the stuff I want to try doesn't exist there, whether it is because its beta, or because its just in the wrong package format.
I find it easier downloading and evaluating an open source project by using the Windows setup directly from the website rather than trying to find the exact same project from within Synaptic.
Windows software is Windows software - full stop.
Why isn't linux the same?
I download and run things for windows without having some complicated pathway, why can't Linux be the same?
:(
Its not that I don't trust the repository, its commonly that I am reading a site about programX and I want to try it. Not everything is in the repository, infact the majority of small OSS projects aren't there.
Currently I have to come away from the website open synaptic, do a search and see if the software is there (usually with some flicking around to confirm its actually what I need and that its the right version) then I have to download it, then play the fun game of which frikkin menu has it gone into just to run a program once and go "nope, not good enough uninstall, or yer I like that." Uninstall is backwards, except I have to wade through lists of things I haven't installed just to find the ones I have to uninstall it.
In Windows, the same thing really is point click [DOWNLOAD NOW], Select mirror, Next Next Next - "Start->All Programs->Author->ProgramX" Hmmmmmm do I like this? nope, right Control Panel/Addremove and its gone, or keep it.
Its just frustrating and confusing and I thought I was comfortable with computers, its the most complicated "user" oriented OS I have ever tried to use.
Now for the rub, I love the principles of OSS. I am sticking with it and persevering because I believe in what can be achieved with it. I run OSS as much as possible and routinely scout around sourceforge or freshmeat for new little projects (hence my frustration at synaptic). I just wish Linux was as simple to play with as Windows
The biggest problem I have seen with Linux is its too specific.
I have seen wonderful one shot solutions to numerous problems, ranging from a simple shell script to full applications.
Every single problem appears to have 10x different alternative variations on the solution.
If OSS people could work together and specify their problems and develop a general solution to the problem at hand, then linux will work for the masses.
People just don't want to "try before they buy" or "find the best one that suits you" for 16 different word processors, they want to get the one that will do the job. They don't want to have to worry about the distro choice because all software marked "Linux compatible" should work on it (without worrying about RPM TGZ and however many upyourarse variations there may be).
I have been examining Ubuntu rather closely recently and whilst I like what it offers, I'm still a newbie and find it confusing to examine projects - I can get things from my synaptic installer and I can add repositories to make more things available, but I still can't suss out how to go to the applications' homepage and download/run a single package - from a Windows perspective, I have come to trust the programs more when I can download them directly from the authors homepage, I don't like to get from secondary sources.
I realise theres probably a really simple super whizzbang command line sequence to do it and I've gone down along this route and looked into things like alien (for bringing in rpms), but why the hell is there such a conflict between packages, its all for Linux afterall.
When I'm in Linux I feel like I'm operating a betamax.
I would imagine that such a system could be simple in a dual cpu setup and from a logical point of view would be nice to do on a process basis.
However, the system wouldn't appear to scale too well. The overheads of scanning every other read only block would soon mean a reduction in the work done, not to mention the security nitemare that would unfold.
IPC using a shared memory model means each entity only has to check his own event queue and doesn't need to bother about anything else.
Of course, as per my sig I might be completely wrong.
I say if there is someone alive now who survived the plague way back when then we should be studying him for his immortability rather than his HIV resistance.
The Sony uninstaller is an ActiveX object marked safe for scripting (which means any website can use it in their code)
Its got some wonderful entries which still leave holes in your system (like rebooting your computer, and a method called "ExecuteCode")
The guys has only just started work, but has an expliotable test together which will reboot your machine.
Look here for more info about Sony uninstallation fun.
YOu get on the phone or send an email to the owner of the machine and enquire just why there is a shitload of bandwidth coming from their station.
If theres not a reasonable response then you disconnect them from the net.
Simple as, this isn't some home user we are talking about, its a corporate system and the company owns the bandwidth.