Artists need to be compensated, but I agree with the parent poster. The value we get from a single track != $.99. I think what bothers me about it is the mp3 is intangeble. If I went to the used CD store and spent 8 bucks on a CD, I'd have something I could resell if I got sick of it. If I download, say a whole album, for $9.99, I can't transfer ownership to anyone else. It seems like downloading songs is more like a service than purchasing a product. Don't get me wrong, I love the mp3 format, but I think I'll save it for converting my music that is purchased on CD's(used CD's because I'm cheap)
One reason there are more people like this in the US could be Coast to Coast AM. I'm not sure if you get it over there, but it's a widely syndicated talk show about UFO's, Bigfoot, ghosts, conspiracies and pseudo-science that airs in the middle of the night. It may encourage people towards the tinfoil had variety. It can be entertaining though.
I think a program that doesn't hijack your machine isn't a trojan. If all it does is send a request to a webserver then it doesn't sound worse than any webpage - except for the fact that it's not what the user intended. I think in order for it to be illegal it would have to do more than ping a server. Don't get me wrong, I don't like the idea at all. I'm just not sure under what law something like this would fall under. Lots of programs do things that the end user isn't aware of. This seems more like spyware (not illegal) than a trojan.
I'm not sure what they're doing is breaking any laws (US at least). How is this different from a web bug or other spyware? If it opens up a particular tracking page on their site (ip logged), then I don't see this as being a back door or trojan. Privacy is a concern I share with a lot of other slashdotters, but I'm not sure what laws are being broken. If people are really bothered by it, maybe we should start a campain to get a bunch of people to use the program. What are they going to do with millions of ip addies?
I think the speed range would fall around 100,000 to 200,000 mph though. For it to be going 3.5 million mph, it would have had to be hurled at us by large insectoid aliens. Damn bugs.
Considering Mars is about 86 million miles from earth today, that rock would have to be hurling at about 3.5 million mph to get near (26,000 miles) earth in a day.
I hope there was a scientific poll done for this. If they relied on asking people their sex in AOL chatrooms, they may have to downgrade that number./jk
The way I remember it was the robot "Chief Knock-A-Homer" was the favorate all season, until we found out there was a bald, fat man inside a robot costume.
I don't think there is score to settle with those sites. This looks like on of those spamming zombies that have been going around. I think the trojan is testing the host's bandwidth by using them.
I loved that book. I was thinking of the 'nihlists' in the book. They were the fringe group that went "underground" to try to preserve their privacy. They wore masks and made up a language of "scaping at palms" to avoid being overheard. If you liked that, I'd try looking at Orson Card's "Pastwatch". That's probably my favorate timetravel/sci-fi book./kind of going offtopic
I agree with most of your points, but not on the wifi. You can get a good connection with a directional yagi (read pringles can) over a mile or two away from the open network. For instance, I can set at a wide open park and see about 150 open networks in a business district about a mile away. Now to stay legal, you should use one that is meant to be open, but still pretty annonymous.
Maybe that's how it used to be. Check out the Patriot Act's section on libraries. Most internet cafe's either have you show an ID or have security cameras. I wouldn't take for granted that either of those places offers you protection. I think the only annonymous connection to find now days involves wardriving./I'm assuming you live in the US, but that may not be the case:)
I don't think we need Utah legislators dictating technology to us. Maybe I'm cynical after looking at other tech-laws. Do we really want laws written by someone who needs an assistant to write an email? I think everyone in my office has a computer that operates about 20-30% too slow due to spyware/adware. Maybe people should increase security on their browsers and watch what they download. While a law against spyware sounds cool, I just believe it's going to backfire on us somehow. Anyway this law wouldn't even protect against Gator (or whatever they're called) anyway:)
Maybe this technology will pave the way for other brain modifications. Maybe they could improve memory and thought in people. Could it be a future without computer monitors?/still afraid of OnStar
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Artists need to be compensated, but I agree with the parent poster. The value we get from a single track != $.99. I think what bothers me about it is the mp3 is intangeble. If I went to the used CD store and spent 8 bucks on a CD, I'd have something I could resell if I got sick of it. If I download, say a whole album, for $9.99, I can't transfer ownership to anyone else. It seems like downloading songs is more like a service than purchasing a product. Don't get me wrong, I love the mp3 format, but I think I'll save it for converting my music that is purchased on CD's(used CD's because I'm cheap)
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One reason there are more people like this in the US could be Coast to Coast AM. I'm not sure if you get it over there, but it's a widely syndicated talk show about UFO's, Bigfoot, ghosts, conspiracies and pseudo-science that airs in the middle of the night. It may encourage people towards the tinfoil had variety. It can be entertaining though.
Somedays I wish there was an 'edit' feature on our posts. Oops. :(
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This is exactly what they want you to believe. Shhhhh.
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At least in the US, it can only legally be considered entrapment if law enforcement is involved.
I think a program that doesn't hijack your machine isn't a trojan. If all it does is send a request to a webserver then it doesn't sound worse than any webpage - except for the fact that it's not what the user intended. I think in order for it to be illegal it would have to do more than ping a server. Don't get me wrong, I don't like the idea at all. I'm just not sure under what law something like this would fall under. Lots of programs do things that the end user isn't aware of. This seems more like spyware (not illegal) than a trojan.
I'm not sure what they're doing is breaking any laws (US at least). How is this different from a web bug or other spyware? If it opens up a particular tracking page on their site (ip logged), then I don't see this as being a back door or trojan. Privacy is a concern I share with a lot of other slashdotters, but I'm not sure what laws are being broken. If people are really bothered by it, maybe we should start a campain to get a bunch of people to use the program. What are they going to do with millions of ip addies?
I had a post earlier today that was supposed to be funny....somehow it got modded a +3 insightful. Maybe the meteor is influencing the mods. :)
I think the speed range would fall around 100,000 to 200,000 mph though. For it to be going 3.5 million mph, it would have had to be hurled at us by large insectoid aliens. Damn bugs.
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I'm so misunderstood.
Considering Mars is about 86 million miles from earth today, that rock would have to be hurling at about 3.5 million mph to get near (26,000 miles) earth in a day.
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I hope there was a scientific poll done for this. If they relied on asking people their sex in AOL chatrooms, they may have to downgrade that number. /jk
The way I remember it was the robot "Chief Knock-A-Homer" was the favorate all season, until we found out there was a bald, fat man inside a robot costume.
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A lot of people here grew up watching Voltron, so we like watching robots fight. :)
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Is it just me, or is this turning into one of those conversations in the basement of "That 70's Show" :)
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I don't think there is score to settle with those sites. This looks like on of those spamming zombies that have been going around. I think the trojan is testing the host's bandwidth by using them.
/crappy script kiddies
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I loved that book. I was thinking of the 'nihlists' in the book. They were the fringe group that went "underground" to try to preserve their privacy. They wore masks and made up a language of "scaping at palms" to avoid being overheard. If you liked that, I'd try looking at Orson Card's "Pastwatch". That's probably my favorate timetravel/sci-fi book. /kind of going offtopic
I remember really liking "Light of Other Days". Is that the one with the "nulls"?
I agree with most of your points, but not on the wifi. You can get a good connection with a directional yagi (read pringles can) over a mile or two away from the open network. For instance, I can set at a wide open park and see about 150 open networks in a business district about a mile away. Now to stay legal, you should use one that is meant to be open, but still pretty annonymous.
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What country are you from?
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Maybe that's how it used to be. Check out the Patriot Act's section on libraries. Most internet cafe's either have you show an ID or have security cameras. I wouldn't take for granted that either of those places offers you protection. I think the only annonymous connection to find now days involves wardriving. /I'm assuming you live in the US, but that may not be the case :)
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Sorry for the offtopic, but is this Matt from the Denver area?
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I don't think we need Utah legislators dictating technology to us. Maybe I'm cynical after looking at other tech-laws. Do we really want laws written by someone who needs an assistant to write an email? I think everyone in my office has a computer that operates about 20-30% too slow due to spyware/adware. Maybe people should increase security on their browsers and watch what they download. While a law against spyware sounds cool, I just believe it's going to backfire on us somehow. Anyway this law wouldn't even protect against Gator (or whatever they're called) anyway :)
Is it just me, or does this sound like we're gonna get more pr0n when we search?
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Maybe this technology will pave the way for other brain modifications. Maybe they could improve memory and thought in people. Could it be a future without computer monitors? /still afraid of OnStar
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