NY politicians offered a 10% discount on a projected ten-year $30 BN tax bill. NY State lost out on $27BN in income because AOC didn't like the 10% discount to get the income. Brilliant.
She didn't just dislike the idea she is upset that the "discount" that was to be given to Amazon isn't being spent on community projects. As I said elsewhere criticism is completely inappropriate for Occasionally Coherent only ridicule will do.
NY politicians cost the neighborhood billions in tax dollars (Hint there's CITY income taxes) lost property tax revenue, lost sales tax revenue, lost taxes on all the businesses that would have provided infrastructure on this
And idiots that lost out are celebrating the fact their politicians were too damn greedy and demanding bribes from Amazon .
They are after all rioting over the increased taxes to pay for all that green power
What does even mean?:-p
Do you require the services of an English teacher. ?
It has always been higher than in the US, thanks to US' massive and cheaply exploitable natural resources and low population. If that is news to you, then let me be the first person to welcome you to this planet. I hope you come in peace!
that some people can have things spoon fed them and still deny anything they see
Anything they see, such as the annual PV installations exceeding 100 GW and STILL increasing exponentially? That alone defeats your cherry-picked list of small inconsequential companies, but as you say, even spoon-feeding you with information won't make you see the light.
They are after all rioting over the increased taxes to pay for all that green power
While we are here lets look at the cost of electricity in Europe
The fact that you can force people to use these at gun point doesn't make them a good idea. As my list demonstrated without subidies on top of supsidies they still wind up being little more than nothing but a good way to divert money to political allies. France is showing the world that you can only go so far with this.
These are additions on top tax breaks and mandate and still it doesn't go. But it does make a very nice way to put tax money into your relatives and donor pockets.
What is your list supposed to prove? That there's a healthy competitive environment in the energy market? What's so bad about that?
Well with regard to you that some people can have things spoon fed them and still deny anything they see and for bonus points the same people who one second will decry the oil companies as the root of all evil in the world, will volte face faster than a Prussian drill team and sing their praises.
And yes there is a healthy competition in the"Energy Market" which is why all the above are dead or nearly dead even with using federal funding.
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results"
33 "renewable" companies that had federal funds gifted to them by the Obama administration and everyone is either in receivership(*) or near finacial collapse.
What you are seeing with this is that the oil companies just decided to ride the gravy train. T
Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($43 million)*
Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)*
SunPower ($1.2 billion)
First Solar ($1.46 billion)
Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
Amonix ($5.9 million)
Fisker Automotive ($529 million)
Abound Solar ($400 million)*
A123 Systems ($279 million)*
Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*
Johnson Controls ($299 million)
Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
ECOtality ($126.2 million)
Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
Range Fuels ($80 million)*
Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*
GreenVolts ($500,000)
Vestas ($50 million)
LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)
Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
Navistar ($39 million)
Satcon ($3 million)*
Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)
For someone who bills themselves as an atheist you seem to have more blind faith than the typical millennial cultist and are considerably more dogmatic as well.
Their own interest ? That assumes that the FDA looks out for their interest, which is observably not the case. Or haven't you noticed the insane skyrocketing of drug prices in this century ?
Wow. Are you still one of those fucking retards who are completely unashamed about their maliciously ignorant confusion of weather with climate? REALLY?!
Oh man you can't even deal with someone disagreeing with you, and you go around insulting other people's intellect ? That's something else indeed.
That the greens have predicted. I never thought you could do worse than economists and still be called a science. Maybe they should change their name to climate studies and be moved in with the gender studies people.
Yeah I guess so. I mean there was all that work done on the photo electric effect, Brownian Motion, black body radiation, the shape of benzene, what constituted organic chemistry (hint it has nothing to do with life), Shape of the universe, origin of the universe well you get the drift. Thousands and Thousands and Thousands of papers and studies. Hell the proton and the neutron used to be fundamental particles and neutrinos massless, and until a few years ago the earth had only 7 continents. OOPS missed a continent there.
But one thing I do know, is if you go back and retroactively adjust your data to make it fit, that's not science that's fraud. As a friend of mine who works in pharma pointed out, "If he did that to data a few months old he would be in jail". Go figure.
Oh P.S. wasn't it scientific consensus that light traveled through the Luminous Aether ? Just if you are going to go for broke on being an idiot by lecturing people on things you obviously know nothing about.
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NY politicians offered a 10% discount on a projected ten-year $30 BN tax bill. NY State lost out on $27BN in income because AOC didn't like the 10% discount to get the income. Brilliant.
She didn't just dislike the idea she is upset that the "discount" that was to be given to Amazon isn't being spent on community projects. As I said elsewhere criticism is completely inappropriate for Occasionally Coherent only ridicule will do.
NY politicians cost the neighborhood billions in tax dollars (Hint there's CITY income taxes) lost property tax revenue, lost sales tax revenue, lost taxes on all the businesses that would have provided infrastructure on this
And idiots that lost out are celebrating the fact their politicians were too damn greedy and demanding bribes from Amazon .
They are after all rioting over the increased taxes to pay for all that green power
What does even mean? :-p
Do you require the services of an English teacher. ?
It has always been higher than in the US, thanks to US' massive and cheaply exploitable natural resources and low population. If that is news to you, then let me be the first person to welcome you to this planet. I hope you come in peace!
It has always been ?
https://www.eurotrib.com/story...
Kind of funny how the U.S. was able to reduce the cost of electricity while in Germany it tripled
Nice attempt at lying, does it work with the stupid you usually talk to or do they just nod along ?
For the ____________________
See how easy that was to do.
that some people can have things spoon fed them and still deny anything they see
Anything they see, such as the annual PV installations exceeding 100 GW and STILL increasing exponentially? That alone defeats your cherry-picked list of small inconsequential companies, but as you say, even spoon-feeding you with information won't make you see the light.
They are after all rioting over the increased taxes to pay for all that green power
While we are here lets look at the cost of electricity in Europe
https://medium.com/solardao/el...
The fact that you can force people to use these at gun point doesn't make them a good idea. As my list demonstrated without subidies on top of supsidies they still wind up being little more than nothing but a good way to divert money to political allies. France is showing the world that you can only go so far with this.
These are additions on top tax breaks and mandate and still it doesn't go. But it does make a very nice way to put tax money into your relatives and donor pockets.
What is your list supposed to prove? That there's a healthy competitive environment in the energy market? What's so bad about that?
Well with regard to you that some people can have things spoon fed them and still deny anything they see and for bonus points the same people who one second will decry the oil companies as the root of all evil in the world, will volte face faster than a Prussian drill team and sing their praises.
And yes there is a healthy competition in the"Energy Market" which is why all the above are dead or nearly dead even with using federal funding.
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results"
33 "renewable" companies that had federal funds gifted to them by the Obama administration and everyone is either in receivership(*) or near finacial collapse.
What you are seeing with this is that the oil companies just decided to ride the gravy train. T
Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($43 million)*
Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)*
SunPower ($1.2 billion)
First Solar ($1.46 billion)
Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
Amonix ($5.9 million)
Fisker Automotive ($529 million)
Abound Solar ($400 million)*
A123 Systems ($279 million)*
Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*
Johnson Controls ($299 million)
Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
ECOtality ($126.2 million)
Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
Range Fuels ($80 million)*
Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*
GreenVolts ($500,000)
Vestas ($50 million)
LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)
Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
Navistar ($39 million)
Satcon ($3 million)*
Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)
They couldn't just go to a 16 bit number they had to save 3 freaking bits ? and for what to have an odd length numeric ?
Oh don't confront these with facts they can't deal
You're still confusing weather with climate, dipshit.
Nope but you have just demonstrated conclusively you don't know what the difference or the fact that there are different types of climate.
You are WRONG. And the fact that you don't admit you are wrong makes you a valid target for insults, because rationality doesn't work on you.
Well that's certainly persuasive. Would you care to start insulting my ancestral line next ?
But as to being right or wrong it's an interesting choice to place yourself on let's read from theTHE BOOK OF THE CLIMATE APOCALYPSE
James Hansen predicting Manhattan being underwater
https://www.salon.com/2001/10/...
Or particularly ironic with the predictions of the end of snow
http://www.climatedepot.com/20...
https://www.theguardian.com/en...
50 million climate refugees anyone ?
https://www.theguardian.com/en...
For someone who bills themselves as an atheist you seem to have more blind faith than the typical millennial cultist and are considerably more dogmatic as well.
Their own interest ? That assumes that the FDA looks out for their interest, which is observably not the case.
Or haven't you noticed the insane skyrocketing of drug prices in this century ?
Wow. Are you still one of those fucking retards who are completely unashamed about their maliciously ignorant confusion of weather with climate? REALLY?!
Oh man you can't even deal with someone disagreeing with you, and you go around insulting other people's intellect ? That's something else indeed.
That called for something to be done about global warming while standing in the middle of a snowstorm ?
Data yes accurate and usable predictions not so much. What there is lots of hysteria and evern more unexamined premises
Simple question for you
How many people die from cold every hear vs heat ?
What are the upsides of warming ? None you say ? Really ?
It's not science it's religion
b) This new paper couldn't possibly be wrong.
As opposed to James Hansen predicting Manhattan being underwater
https://www.salon.com/2001/10/...
As Opposed to the end of winter snow ?
http://www.climatedepot.com/20...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk...
Still waiting for the ice free arctic btw
As Opposed to the UN (you know the IPCC people) Predicting 50 million refugees from rising seas
https://www.theguardian.com/en...
That's another one where the original material has been taken down in embarrassment BTW
As opposed to Florida being scourged to the limestone by Hurricanes
As opposed to the Ice age we were going to be in
As opposed to the population bomb that had civilization collapsing by now
As opposed to the predictions that we would be out of oil, out of metals and out of just about everything by now.
That the greens have predicted. I never thought you could do worse than economists and still be called a science. Maybe they should change their name to climate studies and be moved in with the gender studies people.
It fell flat not because of weaponized dislike but because it was horrible and tried to push what the people running youtube wanted to be pushed.
But hey they are the gods of the internet, the public will damn well like what they tell them to.
There's really not much that is going to help you anyway and your concern might need to be boring to death anyone that looks at your life.
Yeah, dude. You got it all figured out, You outsmarted those thousands and thousands of dumb scientists.
Sorry I didn't realize you were a religious fanatic. I should have known when you clearly had no idea what you are talking about.
Feel free to continue thinking science works by consensus and because people agree things are so they are.
You are sitting in front of an internet connected computer and you can't even bother to hit google ?
https://www.redstate.com/sarah...
https://twitter.com/DLoesch/st...
It's no wonder the right thinks you lot are little more than automatons.
Ok, buddy. The world's scientist are wrong, and you're right. Thanks for that explanation.
LOL yes that's because it's just me saying that "science works by making falsifiable predictions"
Let me know when they start making predictions that are actually accurate.
Oh you didn't understand that's how science works did you ?
Yeah I guess so. I mean there was all that work done on the photo electric effect, Brownian Motion, black body radiation, the shape of benzene, what constituted organic chemistry (hint it has nothing to do with life), Shape of the universe, origin of the universe well you get the drift. Thousands and Thousands and Thousands of papers and studies. Hell the proton and the neutron used to be fundamental particles and neutrinos massless, and until a few years ago the earth had only 7 continents. OOPS missed a continent there.
But one thing I do know, is if you go back and retroactively adjust your data to make it fit, that's not science that's fraud. As a friend of mine who works in pharma pointed out, "If he did that to data a few months old he would be in jail". Go figure.
Oh P.S. wasn't it scientific consensus that light traveled through the Luminous Aether ? Just if you are going to go for broke on being an idiot by lecturing people on things you obviously know nothing about.