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Twitter Might Punish Users Who Tweet 'Learn To Code' At Laid-Off Journalists (reason.com)
According to a report from Reason magazine, Twitter users who comment the "learn to code" advice at journalists who just lost their jobs might be treated as "abusive behavior," which is a violation of the social media site's terms of service. The rumor comes from Jon Levine, Media Editor at The Wrap. From the report: The Wrap's Jon Levine said representatives for the social media company had backed away from the position they related to him earlier, which was that the phrase "learn to code" itself constituted abusive behavior. The new position seems to be that "learn to code" is not de facto harassment, but could be considered harassment if tweeted aggressively as part of campaign to intimidate a specific user, in accordance with Twitter's somewhat vague abusive behavior policy. In an email to Reason, a Twitter spokesperson said: "Twitter is responding to a targeted harassment campaign against specific individuals -- a policy that's long been against the Twitter Rules."
Last week, journalists from BuzzFeed, HuffPost, Yahoo, AOL, and others, were let go. BuzzFeed founder and CEO, Jonah Peretti, said the company "would reduce headcount by 15%, or about 250 jobs, to around 1,100 employees globally," reports The Guardian. "At the same time, Verizon said it would trim 7% of headcount, about 800 people, from its media unit, which includes HuffPost, Yahoo and AOL. The job losses followed sales or cuts at Mic, Refinery29 and elsewhere."
Last week, journalists from BuzzFeed, HuffPost, Yahoo, AOL, and others, were let go. BuzzFeed founder and CEO, Jonah Peretti, said the company "would reduce headcount by 15%, or about 250 jobs, to around 1,100 employees globally," reports The Guardian. "At the same time, Verizon said it would trim 7% of headcount, about 800 people, from its media unit, which includes HuffPost, Yahoo and AOL. The job losses followed sales or cuts at Mic, Refinery29 and elsewhere."
But it lets Trump abuse people all day long...
Slashdot canâ(TM)t even code their site properly. What are liberal arts majors to do?
The only profession I know of where the employees are obsoleting themselves.
Tweeting "Learn to code" is harassment.
However, giving death threats to high school kids who are attacked by racists is acceptable.
Got it. Punishing people based on political views is acceptable.
Thanks liberals for letting us know how "tolerant" you all are.
Shit is... fucking ridiculous
Learn to code!...please?
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
... If they learned to code, they'd better understand the algorithms they tried to exploit with rage for more views... Jus' sayin'...
This is a policy that only applies to laid-off journalists?
I feel like I'm missing something here.
They should just re-label "abusive behaviour" to "whatever we don't like, whenever we don't like it"
Trash journalists didn't seem to care when blue collar workers were losing their jobs. Besides, everyone should learn how to code, learn how to file their taxes, learn to cook, learn CPR...
Fine, learn to suck cock then.
You can tweet about feeding kids into a woodchipper or giving blowjobs to punch kids in the face or dox kids all day long or do any of the threatening and calls to violence that the antiMAGA crowd almost entirely got away with a few days ago and are still widely and proudly unapologetic for but tweeting 'learn to code' is going too far!
That told coal miners "Get a Uhaul and learn to code"
Seems they really don't like having that thrown in their face.
Well Obama is fucked. He asked everyone to learn how to code.
Those poor journalists. Nah, im just kidding. Fuck em, let them burn together with their lies.
Of course. Twitter is an arm of the prog leftard commie asshole movement. It is not a revolution but more like the zombies on TWD. Anybody who uses Twitter should be drawn and quartered
Told one of the recently laid of journalists to enter a new career field and learn to code. I also n pointed out that her colleague who is in fact a coder was inundated with job offers publicly on twitter while she herself is facing no prospector employment. If coal miners can learn to code, so can they.
This would be a weird line for Twitter to draw in the sand. They are okay with death and rape threats, threats of starting war, targetted harasment of women and politicians, but telling people to learn to code is where they put their foot down?
Reporters learning to code? Given the state of journalism today they'll just go to stackoverflow and copy the top 8 answers into the file and call it done.
"I don't understand why I can't use hashtags to search for code snippets!"
but trump can pump out his racist bigotry like an open spigot
Looking for new recruits.
It already has. There's documented proof of it.
Rob
25+ years ago when I was in an Electrical Engineering program at a local University we used to joke even back then about useless degrees.
"I have a degree in Humanities/Journalism/History/International Studies/Fine Arts..."
"Would you like fries with that?"
Now:
What is old is new again... except now in our current over-hyped over-sensitized environment you can't joke like that because you might hurt their itty-bitty safe-space-isolated politically-protected feelings.
Peace out.
Aren't there lots of empty articles that keep telling everyone "Learn to Code" is the answer to every few weeks of "I just got laid off and nobody wants to hire me. I don't have skills. What should I do?"
It's only proper to throw that krap right back at them, isn't it?
And help with the world toilet shortage. You’re more likely to have a phone than a toilet now days.
See subject & a post of mine today (multiple downmods on it but FACT/TRUTH the ENTIRE body of it) https://science.slashdot.org/c... I do THAT all the time to my 'critics' who HIDE behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts like the WHIMPS & WEEZILS they are!
(INFERIOR DEFECTIVE DEFICIENTS (thanks for the last one gweihir - always makes me laugh & SORRY to "Bite off your style" but it rocks)).
* When ANY f'ing TROLL "snowflakian being" (that fear 'global warming' because as is, they MELT under the normal temp & pressure of LIFE, daily (lol)) does better? THEN feed me your BULLSHIT!
"EMO" wusses & SNOWFLAKIAN BEINGS (lol) = worms & WASTE OF LIFE when you can't give back to society + be of service to others.
MAKE A WHEEL, weezils https://isc.sans.edu/forums/di... & THEN you can talk/criticize me - until then? LMAO @ U!
Some here, have & have my respect (raymorris for one, there are 2-3 others I know of only).
LOL - yup, I see this message got thru to some "SNOWFLAKIAN EMOS" awww downmodding it 2x https://politics.slashdot.org/... & https://politics.slashdot.org/...
APK
P.S.=> It's meant to inspire except perhaps I made 1 SMALL error - thinking others can "measure up" & they're unable to (they'd rather go play XBox etc. OR shoot heroin)... apk
See subject & 1st result to understand (your duty as a human being, to yourself & others + a CIVIC duty imo) https://duckduckgo.com/html?q=...
* NOW, the ONLY "Catch-22" I have w/ THAT goal is it's what the TRUE master of the MASONIC ORDER (see Albert Pike "Morals & Dogma" & see WHO he dedicated it to) had (albeit for the wrong reasons) - it's what "LUCY FUR" wanted to do to become "GOD"...
APK
P.S.=> Still, self-improvement never hurts - especially when you can help better this place we live in imo... apk
The main propaganda organ of the internet is not amused.
Can we please route Twitter off the internet? It does nothing of value.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
#LearnToJournalism
"Take a concrete pill and harden the f**k up" - and link this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y (not a RickRoll)
This comment section largely is whiny. Stop whining, whiners. (who am i kidding, slashdot stop being whiny in the 21st century? but i digress...)
It's pretty clear from their responses that journalists are interpreting this as an attempt at diminishing them and the profession they also feel emotions about. That's right kids, they *identify* as journalists and have rationalizations for what they do and all that.
Funnily enough, they feel that way because a lot of you are doing that, deliberately, and from a position that whether journalism or computer-stuff is more regarded in society is some kind of personal moral victory... and you can't tell the difference between the rationales 'learn to code to because computers are a lifestyle' or 'learn to code to be a better journalist with the tools of both fields at your disposal' any more than they can at a distance. You're just as bad as they are, cargo cultists.
That said, i'm not here to tell you to 'learn to communicate' because... well... apparently journalists think that's what they're doing already. You should probably just go play video games and learn to lurk moar.
See subject: "... now I see PAYOFFS everywhere I look - who do you TRUST when everyone's a crook?" Queensryche "REVOLUTION CALLING" (a 'revolution of the MIND') https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
* THINK ABOUT WHAT I WROTE journalists per https://politics.slashdot.org/... especially...
APK
P.S.=> "For a PRICE, I'd do about anything EXCEPT 'pull the trigger' - for THAT, I need a pretty GOOD cause" -> https://it.slashdot.org/commen... ... apk
Gab.ai is an engineering marvel and proof that the right are superior in every way. It has better and more functions and never has any server problems and the admins aren't overwhelmed and it's not full of child prons and Notch talks to me like i'm his best buddy and that definitely doesn't mean he has no friends now.
Let's ban any form of humor and satire.
Fucking delusional mickey mouse degree holders.
Learn to assemble statements in the proper order that will cause a computer to carry out the desired functions!
So Twitter will ban people who tweet "learn to code" at a grown up Journalist, but they just Kathy Griffin and a host of those same "journalists" attack school kids without ramifications.
Why does anyone actually use that PoS app anyway?
I don't give a fuck about Twitter and its stupid fucking abuse policy. The real story of interest here is that multiple digital news outlets are laying off journalists left and right. They're nontraditional news outlets, but they are major news outlets nonetheless, and most of them are owned by companies who could easily afford to keep the journalists employed. For instance, I would guess that the journalists working for Verizon-- the parent company of several of these news outlets-- represent less than 0.1% of their labor costs.
They could keep them around if they wanted to, but they don't want to.
Journalists??! LOL!!!
Oh god, my sides!!
Abusive? How dare they suggest that such sage advise given to others who lost their jobs is abusive. I happen to know a coal miner turned programmer and he's very unhappy to hear this news.
As if we already didn't who gets to make the decision of what is moral and socially acceptable now. They also get to decide what is fake and what is real, regardless of reality.
You had to know Notch as a mega asshole when some girl broke up with him and gave the excuse that he was "too rich" lol
See subject: "... now I see PAYOFFS everywhere I look - who do you TRUST when everyone's a crook?" Queensryche "REVOLUTION CALLING" https://www.youtube.com/watch?... (a 'revolution of the MIND')
* THINK ABOUT WHAT I WROTE journalists per https://politics.slashdot.org/... especially...
APK
P.S.=> "For a PRICE, I'd do about anything EXCEPT 'pull the trigger' - for THAT, I need a pretty GOOD cause" -> https://it.slashdot.org/commen... ... apk
I can understand why this is considered hate speech. With all of the fake news being published, these journalists will never be able to comprehend the difference between True and False.
Now, Twitter's going to be our purse-lipped mother-in-law?
Debate is a form of harassment. Do not question my truth.
I never saw a single journalist push back on either the Obama administration or then-candidate Hillary Clinton as they both (and many of their supporters both in and out of the press corps) declared that the coal mines should indeed by shuttered and those coal miners be given "re-training" for "jobs of the future" (which are always implied as software writing jobs, since service jobs are "jobs American won't do" and manufacturing jobs are being outsourced and are obviously a dead-end in the US).
The smarmy "let them eat cake" attitude toward a vast swath of the American middle class workers is not just among elites in think tanks and on capitol hill, but has long extended deeply into the halls of journalists. When average Americans either actually lose their jobs, or have their job losses pre-planned by elites, in the pursuit of some regulatory scheme, or trade plan, there's rarely much of a fuss by the elitse and their usual variations of "it sucks to be you, maybe you need to learn to code" are perfunctory and plentiful. It's sort of refreshing to see them face the same garbage. Incidentally: I've never heard of Twitter considering punishment for anybody calling for non-journalists to "learn to code".
If Twitter is going to continue their policy of selectively enforcing rules when the spotlight is on them... this is utterly meaningless.
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1) Users who tweet learn to code are banned.
2) Twitter loses more and more market share.
3) ???
4) ex-twitter employees join ex-journalist at school where they learn to code.
Well ever caving to wallstreet and being a rape apologist didn't work out for Hillary did it?
I hope she runs again, between her corruption and little miss 1/1024 native american, I don't know which would be funnier to watch.
BuzzFeed, Yahoo and AOL authors are merely pen-pushers and click-baiters.
Whatever gave you the dumbfuck idea that competitiveness and aggressiveness are good or even useful negotiation tactics?
Just look at how his borderwall^wfence^wslats are going to be paid for by mexicans^wtariffs^wamericans^wnobody to see how successful he is at making a deal.
Trump is a rich person who is President, you're posting AC to Slashdot, and YOU are trying to claim Trump's strategies don't work?
Calling you dumb as a post would be an insult to wood.
eg he's a massive dick
You only win the prisoner's dilemma by defecting as long as you play with someone who cooperates because he learned that this is actually the winning strategy. Once he notices you're defecting, he'll start doing the same, ending up in lower effectiveness for both of you.
I guess we're heading for shittier times.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Theyâ(TM)ll have to extend it to any advise to a journalist that involves the phrase âoelearnâ otherwise the suggestions will become all the more scathing.
So ... these "journalists" (I'll use the term loosely here) were laid off for harassing people?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
So. Changed your meds again, did they?
Admit nothing. Deny Everything. Make Counter-accusations.
Retarded bitch Alexander Peter Kowalski is mad that his BS keeps getting modded down. Maybe if he could actually post something that wasn't complete crap it wouldn't happen.
Here is a chronicle of your bitch ass getting beaten on your port filtering statements.
Here is another one where your got beaten hard because you can't back up anything you say. This was about how you claim your shitware can block all hosts in a domain, which it can't.
Then there is your claim that the Chinese copied you but you admit that at best all you have is wild ass speculation and can't offer any real proof or even actual evidence to support yourself.
How about the list of experts you claim support your statements, none of which actually support your work and have been shown to actually be saying things different from what you stated they were.
Maybe instead you can tell us about your "success" where a project rejected your stupid simplistic idea or maybe threaten to sue someone again because you are a insecure little man who is washed up and never amounted to anything.
Better yet you can prove how defective you are by continuing to repeat your debunked BS some more.
Why don't you get your pretend friend to post some fake support and then throw a fit when you get caught.
For seven years, I worked as a programmer at the Associated Press in Manhattan. I met a lot of journalists. It was obvious I wouldn't make a good journalist, because I wasn't interested in the stuff they were interested in. And it was equally obvious they would make poor programmers, for exactly the same reason.
- The Kessel run is for nerf herders. I can circumnavigate the entire Central Finite Curve in a lot less than 12 parse
You calling him a dumbfuck makes his point for him
Of course. Twitter is an arm of the prog leftard commie asshole movement.
If you want to sell that line, you'll have to explain why they haven't terminated Donald Trump's account for violations of the ToS. The truth is that twitter is amoral at best, they just want money, so they want views. Any tweet that makes them more money than it costs them is a good match for their corporate values.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Remember what the coal miners got told?
Code now has a few slight changes. Learn how to read a Code of Conduct (CoC) and what a CoC allows code to be used for in 2019 and beyond.
Select a computer code that is still in use. Has the code got a CoC that allows the results to still make a profit?
Do you have to show your code for anyone to copy and give away for free?
Dont learn a code that makes you give everything you worked on away for free.
Will the CoC make the code difficult to use and make a profit from? Look at a better code with a less restrictive CoC.
Code that fully respects the right to make a profit and to keep the results of the many hours of hard work put into a project.
Find a code product that has allows the results of hard work to be sold for a profit no matter the type of project and who you work for.
A code with lots of complex English terms and words in it. That keeps average foreign workers away from that type of code.
No good learning a code that is cheaper to code with outside the USA. Use your advanced US English education when learning to code.
A CoC that does not track all code use and make later demands on how that code is been used.
After finding code that is in use in 2019 and that allows a profit to be made, look for an approved way for learning how to code.
Getting an approved education in code allows that professional skill to be used.
Take out a loan. Use savings from a bank account. Get accepted into an approved educational company that can teach code.
Find an approved computer teaching company and invest fully in the hours, days, weeks, months, years and "Learn to Code".
Remember to watch for any changes on the CoC that will reduce the ability to make a profit form the code.
Be ready for any attempts by a CoC to track code use and make demands on how code is used.
CoC can change at any time for any reason. So select a good quality code before learning how to code.
Find an online code community that works to support users. Do they actually help users code or just use code to push their political views?
Attend code class on time and have all your work ready.
Do the code homework that's set and be ready for all code exams and tests.
Take more time to really study the needed complex math. Math is needed and should be studied outside any set code work that is set.
Long hours learning code. Learning new math. Learning how to use the advanced math with the code.
After years of hard work apply for all the new code jobs all over the USA.
Be ready to move to any part of the USA given a company may seek low tax rates in different fully gentrified cities and states.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
You already answered that. For as much virtue signaling as they like to do, they like money more, and Trump makes them a lot of money.
Also, because of a very poor court decision, it might actually be illegal for Twitter to terminate his account as it would be violating the peoples right to petition the government. Seriously, that judge really didn't think that decision through at all.
What a bunch of snowflakes. If that's abusive then I shutter to think what they would've thought about how my generation's parents treated us growing up.
You already answered that. For as much virtue signaling as they like to do, they like money more, and Trump makes them a lot of money.
Virtue signalling doesn't speak to someone's political orientation, only to how they want to appear for public purposes. It doesn't mean what you think it means. There's nothing liberal about Twitter.
Also, because of a very poor court decision, it might actually be illegal for Twitter to terminate his account as it would be violating the peoples right to petition the government.
It wouldn't. The relationship doesn't go in that direction, only the opposite: Trump can't block people on Twitter because he's using it as an official communications medium. If he isn't, then it becomes irrelevant to that argument. Twitter can block Trump, but they can't let Trump block people.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Abandon ship. Women and children first.
Remember when twitter pretended to be a bastion of free speech? Seems like most of these tech companies worm their way in as a quality service or product then mutate into something hideous.
Twitter is tyrannical. No way around that one. They've read up on their Gestapo and KGB esque tactics, at the very least.
Objectively this isn't an issue.
But there is this increasing religious zeal in which people take up the cross of their political priests and chant their way to jihad
Who outside of those effected could see this ad problematic? Who as an adult human allows this childish taunt to effect them? Arnt these professional journalists? They're perfectly open to taunts. Reflect them, disregard them.
Or
Maybe if these people didn't spend all their time tearing other people down they wouldn't have to worry about getting hit in return.
Childish any way you slice it.
Does this mean when coders lose their jobs, journalists can tweet, "Learn journalism!" to coders?
"privilege, since cherry picked stats" on slashdot, we are "progressing" fast.
Now let me cherry pick some other stats for you:
About 350 firemen died on 9/11, most of them white, 100% of them men.
Men earn more, but spend a fraction of earnings, yet are pointed out to have "privilege".
Average US man works 30% longer hours and spends 30% more to commute to work, than working woman.
Men are getting longer prison sentences and are more likely to get sentence than women, (for the same crime, both first timers)
Boys are lagging behind at all stages of education, enrollment at high school soon to reach 40% vs 60%, but gender focused programs are still focused on girls.
Men are times more likely to commit suicide.
Men dominate at the bottom of the social pyramid, regardless of their skin color (homless, high risk jobs (90%+ of workspace fatalities) etc).
So, what you were saying again?
...will always cause an avalanche.
There are two good things about Trump: (1) his negotiating strategy appears to be more realistic, i.e. he's very combative and aggressive and (2) he's annoying all the right people.
LOL, Trump gets rolled in every negotiation he takes part in. How's that denuclearized North Korea thing working out? He is certainly combative and aggressive, I'll give you that.
And annoying all the right people? The Republicans really have made spite and resentment their political philosophy.
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
Well ever caving to wallstreet and being a rape apologist didn't work out for Hillary did it?
No, but it worked just fine for Donald Trump!
Maybe they should produce something instead of writing articles about what others have accomplished. Also, twitter sucks.
1.) My program stops portfilter errs in hosts https://news.slashdot.org/comm...
2.) Wildcards CREATE FALSE POSITIVES (try wildcard myftp.org, not all sites in it = bad). Hosts specifics don't cause that.
3.) CHINA did hardcodes LONG AFTER I DID "Time is on MY SIDE" (Rolling Stones) https://theregister.co.uk/2017...
4.) /. users state the value of hosts for getting users more speed/security/reliability/anonymity listed here (enumerated as "Registered /.ers reviews") https://it.slashdot.org/commen...
5.) Security pros galore + /.ers praise the layered security efficacy of hosts quoted here https://it.slashdot.org/commen...
6.) I never had to sue Thor SCHMUCK - CA rescinded their FALSE POSITIVE error, sold off their shitty antivirus & I said I'd speak to an attorney & I did who advised I go thru their removal process & I won.
APK
P.S.=> You can't even STAND BEHIND YOUR WORDS (lies) you UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous STALKER of me... apk
its fucking twitter. who cares.
"Learn to code" to the Twitter Dev team?
How's that denuclearized North Korea thing working out?
Better than it has been previously? I mean, it's at least a step toward peace and he's not doing it through appeasement.
Yes it's an anecdote! Were you expecting original research in a Slashdot comment?
Coding jobs are going to India, so why learn coding.
Pass the bar, too many assholes in that occupation already.
Learn Anatomy, that requires intelligence. You may still become a government employee, but with HUGE college debt.
Learn to Plumb. That job can't be sent overseas. YEAH that's the ticket!
before any one with any self-respect just plain ignores you as being a tool?
So, you bought the whore's book? And then actually read it?
Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
LOL!!!!
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Don't forget those awesome negotiating skills he put to use to build that wall and make Mexico pay for it
That's why I'm in release. Looking at a 2D screen all day and moving characters around in accordance with an imagined framework. Oh, THAT's exciting! It's exciting if you have a severe analytical bent. PUZZLES everyone loves PUZZLES! Right!? No, not everyone. If I'm going to puzzle about something, it's not going to be about which way I should move characters around in my editor. I have a "real life" out here, believe it or not. Telling someone like a Journalist, who actually interacts with humans (remember those?) to "learn to code," is tantamount to telling them to slit their throats in anguish. Who WANTS to code? Analytical puzzle solvers. And they are often not much fun at parties. Who needs to get off their high horse? Coders. You're not the salvation of Earth, you're just moving characters around and when something works.? "YOO HOO! I'm a GOD!" Yeah... you're a god. Sure.
So perhaps instead of #learntocode, we can trend #learntocoal?
Still kinda sad to see twitter stock recovery. It needs to die, it will never be a source of constructive thought just a tiny window for the unwashed masses to throw low effort insults at each other.
The worst part is people thinking its required to uphold freedom of speech and be unbiased.
Jesus said "turn the other cheek" not "do the tomahawk chop". But hey NotRaciss(tm). Why didn't they wander off? They weren't being detained. They chose to stay there. That moves the responsibility on to them.
You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic - you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people - now how 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks, they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America. But the other basket - and I know this because I see friends from all over America here - I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas - as well as, you know, New York and California - but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they're just desperate for change. It doesn't really even matter where it comes from. They don't buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won't wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like they're in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.
I hope she runs again, between her corruption and little miss 1/1024 native american, I don't know which would be funnier to watch.
So do I... I desperately hope the Democrats try to get that nutty cunt into office again.
LAUREL! It's pronounced LAUREL, ya goddamned deaf-ass.
Don't kick someone while they are down, help them stand up, progress.
You are sitting in front of an internet connected computer and you can't even bother to hit google ?
https://www.redstate.com/sarah...
https://twitter.com/DLoesch/st...
It's no wonder the right thinks you lot are little more than automatons.