Making fake ipods in the same factory as the factory owner with lower quality parts and the already trained manufacturing personnel, re-using the exact same packaging, documentation, etc. would let you make some really REALLY cheap ipods.
Which parts do you plan to replace to make it really cheap? It won't be anything digital, because you're not going to be rewriting the software to work with different hardware, and I'm guessing they make up most of the manufacturing cost of an MP3 player these days.
They could still fill the store with stolen/fake products even if apple had nothing to do with China.
Where has anyone said that they're selling fake Apple products?
There's a big difference between making your own MP3 player with an iPod label on the front and going to the iPod factory and buying them in bulk from the owner without telling Apple. The former could be done anywhere, the latter is vastly easier if the factory is in the country where you plan to sell them.
Why are you assuming that the fake store is selling the real products? If the fake store is selling counterfeit products, then it really doesn't have anything to do with offshoring.
Makng fake iPods probably costs more than buying real ones from the factory owner.
In a large software project with dozens of developers how hard is it to imagine one person lifting a library or portion of code from a GPL project -- either because the are lazy, or because they don't understand the rules?
If your developers are doing that, you have lousy management.
What NoScript really needs is a way of blacklisting domains manually so that I have to manually enable them if I decide I want them.
You mean like 'mark as untrusted'?
I'd like to see domain-based functionality, so for example I can allow Facebook Javascript when I'm actually using Facebook, but block if when I'm at any other site.
Ah, I still remember the early days of Javascript when we were telling people what a horrible insecure pile of crap it would be and they were assuring us that nothing could possibly go wrong.
Um, duh? 20+ years real-world testing and updates and bugfixes from pretty much the entire open-source community vs. something that was released last week? Why don't they benchmark it against Google Plus and Bitcoin while they're at it?
HURD is older than Linux, isn't it? I seem to remember Linus saying he wouldn't have bothered developing Linux if HURD had actually been usable at that point.
No, it doesn't. NASA did little for the semiconductor industry. They were never a big customer.
To be fair, for a few years in the 60s NASA (through MIT) was the biggest or one of the biggest customers for the IC business. But even without that the IC would have taken off almost as rapidly; in the worst case we might be a few years behind where we are today, still using Core-2s rather than Core-is.
At the point people switched from Win16 to Win32 almost all programs had data segments much bigger than 64K. So the old selector:offset scheme had really started to bite. Now there are a few programs that need more than 4GB of data. But the vast majority don't and won't ever.
lawyers. Seriously, can we please round these bottom-feeders up and put them at the bottom of Yucca Mountain? Radioactive waste and each other are the only company they're fit to spend eternity with.
Good God, are you insane? Imagine the devastation if ten thousand years from now the storage vessel should spring a leak and the area become flooded with a mass of radioactive mutant lawyers.
I presume they mean/home, and I'm surprised that much of anything works if you're weird enough to mount an NTFS partition there. I'm guessing FAT32 wouldn't make it very happy either.
I believe the issue is that Pulseaudio wants to set specific permissions on $HOME/.pulse and NTFS doesn't support them. SSH probably won't work either and I suspect that a bunch of other programs will fail.
With a vow to never spend over $15 and some patience (maybe as long as a couple of years), there is no reason why you can't get any game on there for cheap as hell.
$15? I don't remember the last time I paid more than $5 for a game that was tied to Steam.
It defines what they have been doing already. Reusing their investments in DirectX,.Net, SQL Server, the NT Kernel, Office and Avalon/WPF/Silverlight on different platforms and media.
This is what we used to call 'bloat'.
The last thing a phone needs is having to support the best part of thirty years of cruddy old Windows APIs.
There's a reason MS dominated the desktop. They made the desktop work.
No, they made the desktop cheap. Windows 3.1 was a joke compared to Unix workstations or even Macs of that era, but a PC with Windows cost less than a Mac and far less than a Sun workstation.
My experience has been that most new government regulation is designed to "fix" problems that were created by government regulation in the first place.
This is standard left-wing tactitcs. First you create a problem, then you come along offering to 'solve' it if it only people will give you more power.
you need government because on their own, people act irresponsibly. doesn't even have to be menace involved, just abject stupidity usually suffices for irresponsible behavior
If people are irresponsible and stupid, how do you improve that by giving guns to those people and telling them they won't be punished if they use them?
Except that there is no constitutional right to fly in an airplane. If you don't like their rules, don't fly.
Argument over.
Except the whole point of the US Constitution is that lists the rights of the government, not the rights of the people. And prohibiting people from traveling in private transport is not one of them.
Heck, how would that same design function on the moon?
Poorly. Lunar dust is a real bastard to deal with... for example, the Apollo astronauts had to keep cleaning it off the Lunar Rover so that it wouldn't overheat.
Or on Europa?
Not at all. There's nowhere near enough sunlight at that distance so you'd need an RTG or much larger panels.
Why not build a 2nd hubble telescope while the JWST is still being designed?
Presumably because someone might notice that building an entire new telescope cost less than a shuttle servicing mission?
Not to mention abandoning the Apollo/Saturn platform for manned spaceflight)
Saturn V was abandoned because it cost $2,000,000,000 a flight and NASA couldn't afford that. The shuttle, of course, ended up costing $2,000,000,000 a flight with a third of the payload.
Of course, I am not a rocket scientist, and I'm not a political administrator trying to justify NASA's budget, but wouldn't it make sense to keep doing what has worked?
The problem is that there aren't many things that have worked well, and many of them -- like the Mars Rovers -- work well in one environment but would work badly or not at all in a different environment.
Serial port - slightly improved over 1980 serial ports, but still compatible
My new motherboard doesn't have one.
Parallel port - slightly improved over early-1980s parallel port, but still compatible
My new motherboard doesn't have one.
Keyboard - DIN8 instead of DIN5 and different layout and "softer," but otherwise similar to 1980. Still compatible with a cheap adapter.
My new motherboard doesn't have one. It's USB-only.
Video output connector - VGA, circa 1987, but improved in many ways. Still compatible.
VGA isn't 1981 technology, though it's not far off.
DVD burner - the "cd read" functionality came to computers in the late 1980s, to music several years earlier. Can still read early-80s-standard music CDs.
Again, CD-ROMs weren't 1981 technology. CDs weren't even around in 1981, were they? I don't remember seeing them until the mid 80s.
Hard drive - descended from hard drives in the 1960s. SATA protocols descended from SCSI protocols dating from '80s or earlier.
You can't plug a SATA cable into a hard drive from 1981. Even if you could, I don't believe the PATA protocols are that old and I'm not sure SATA supports the non-DMA protocols?
Power supply - many components are technically equivalent to pre-1980s tech.
I would be surprsied if you could plug a 1981 PSU into a modern motherboard or vice-versa.
Screws, fans, and other case hardware - basic tech predates moon landing. Standard-shape AC power cable dates back farther than I can remember.
The blurb indicates that Ethernet is the only technology that we are using from 30 years ago. Back then all the machines I used had Memory, cpus, displays, and keyboards. The particualr technology changed - just like Ethernet technology's changes.
To be fair, you can still plug a modern Ethernet card into a 10Mbps Ethernet network and it will work; the ancient technology is still built into the hardware. You can't plug a Z80 CPU or a 500ns DRAM or a Sinclair rubber keyboard into a modern PC... heck, you can't even plug a PS/2 keyboard into my new server, it has to be USB.
i know there are applications that need it but when it came time to look at 10gbps where i work only backups seemed to benefit from it. then we would need to buy all new servers as well.
1. Backbones. If you have a big gigabit switch connected to another big gigabit switch you don't want a single gigabit connection between them. Similarly, when computers come with 10Gbps ethernet you won't want a single 10Gpbs connection between the switches. 2. As more computers come with SSDs, the LAN becomes the bottleneck when transferring files, not the disk. 10Gbps should be enough for them for some time though.
Yes, but that's because the government is both corrupt and tyrannical. It has nothing to do with marxist ideology.
Every Marxist government is corrupt and tyrannical.
Making fake ipods in the same factory as the factory owner with lower quality parts and the already trained manufacturing personnel, re-using the exact same packaging, documentation, etc. would let you make some really REALLY cheap ipods.
Which parts do you plan to replace to make it really cheap? It won't be anything digital, because you're not going to be rewriting the software to work with different hardware, and I'm guessing they make up most of the manufacturing cost of an MP3 player these days.
They could still fill the store with stolen/fake products even if apple had nothing to do with China.
Where has anyone said that they're selling fake Apple products?
There's a big difference between making your own MP3 player with an iPod label on the front and going to the iPod factory and buying them in bulk from the owner without telling Apple. The former could be done anywhere, the latter is vastly easier if the factory is in the country where you plan to sell them.
Why are you assuming that the fake store is selling the real products? If the fake store is selling counterfeit products, then it really doesn't have anything to do with offshoring.
Makng fake iPods probably costs more than buying real ones from the factory owner.
In a large software project with dozens of developers how hard is it to imagine one person lifting a library or portion of code from a GPL project -- either because the are lazy, or because they don't understand the rules?
If your developers are doing that, you have lousy management.
I don't think anyone is saying this is some horrible world changing catastrophe.
I'm guessing Steve Jobs is.
What NoScript really needs is a way of blacklisting domains manually so that I have to manually enable them if I decide I want them.
You mean like 'mark as untrusted'?
I'd like to see domain-based functionality, so for example I can allow Facebook Javascript when I'm actually using Facebook, but block if when I'm at any other site.
Ah, I still remember the early days of Javascript when we were telling people what a horrible insecure pile of crap it would be and they were assuring us that nothing could possibly go wrong.
How did the government get to claim ownership of the electromagnetic spectrum in the first place?
Um, duh? 20+ years real-world testing and updates and bugfixes from pretty much the entire open-source community vs. something that was released last week? Why don't they benchmark it against Google Plus and Bitcoin while they're at it?
HURD is older than Linux, isn't it? I seem to remember Linus saying he wouldn't have bothered developing Linux if HURD had actually been usable at that point.
No, it doesn't. NASA did little for the semiconductor industry. They were never a big customer.
To be fair, for a few years in the 60s NASA (through MIT) was the biggest or one of the biggest customers for the IC business. But even without that the IC would have taken off almost as rapidly; in the worst case we might be a few years behind where we are today, still using Core-2s rather than Core-is.
At the point people switched from Win16 to Win32 almost all programs had data segments much bigger than 64K. So the old selector:offset scheme had really started to bite. Now there are a few programs that need more than 4GB of data. But the vast majority don't and won't ever.
Four gigabytes ought to be enough for anybody!
What a load of crap. Whilst I don't support software patents, your logic won't help the cause, as it's absolutely invalid.
Why? Hardware patents are only slightly less bullshit than software patents.
lawyers. Seriously, can we please round these bottom-feeders up and put them at the bottom of Yucca Mountain? Radioactive waste and each other are the only company they're fit to spend eternity with.
Good God, are you insane? Imagine the devastation if ten thousand years from now the storage vessel should spring a leak and the area become flooded with a mass of radioactive mutant lawyers.
What's so significant about /user?
I presume they mean /home, and I'm surprised that much of anything works if you're weird enough to mount an NTFS partition there. I'm guessing FAT32 wouldn't make it very happy either.
I believe the issue is that Pulseaudio wants to set specific permissions on $HOME/.pulse and NTFS doesn't support them. SSH probably won't work either and I suspect that a bunch of other programs will fail.
With a vow to never spend over $15 and some patience (maybe as long as a couple of years), there is no reason why you can't get any game on there for cheap as hell.
$15? I don't remember the last time I paid more than $5 for a game that was tied to Steam.
It defines what they have been doing already. Reusing their investments in DirectX, .Net, SQL Server, the NT Kernel, Office and Avalon/WPF/Silverlight on different platforms and media.
This is what we used to call 'bloat'.
The last thing a phone needs is having to support the best part of thirty years of cruddy old Windows APIs.
There's a reason MS dominated the desktop. They made the desktop work.
No, they made the desktop cheap. Windows 3.1 was a joke compared to Unix workstations or even Macs of that era, but a PC with Windows cost less than a Mac and far less than a Sun workstation.
My experience has been that most new government regulation is designed to "fix" problems that were created by government regulation in the first place.
This is standard left-wing tactitcs. First you create a problem, then you come along offering to 'solve' it if it only people will give you more power.
you need government because on their own, people act irresponsibly. doesn't even have to be menace involved, just abject stupidity usually suffices for irresponsible behavior
If people are irresponsible and stupid, how do you improve that by giving guns to those people and telling them they won't be punished if they use them?
Wait, so is medicare and social security a joke as well, since we dont have those xxx billion dollars either?
You might want to ask the ex-citizens of the USSR what happened to their promised benefits after the country went bankrupt.
Except that there is no constitutional right to fly in an airplane. If you don't like their rules, don't fly.
Argument over.
Except the whole point of the US Constitution is that lists the rights of the government, not the rights of the people. And prohibiting people from traveling in private transport is not one of them.
Heck, how would that same design function on the moon?
Poorly. Lunar dust is a real bastard to deal with... for example, the Apollo astronauts had to keep cleaning it off the Lunar Rover so that it wouldn't overheat.
Or on Europa?
Not at all. There's nowhere near enough sunlight at that distance so you'd need an RTG or much larger panels.
Why not build a 2nd hubble telescope while the JWST is still being designed?
Presumably because someone might notice that building an entire new telescope cost less than a shuttle servicing mission?
Not to mention abandoning the Apollo/Saturn platform for manned spaceflight)
Saturn V was abandoned because it cost $2,000,000,000 a flight and NASA couldn't afford that. The shuttle, of course, ended up costing $2,000,000,000 a flight with a third of the payload.
Of course, I am not a rocket scientist, and I'm not a political administrator trying to justify NASA's budget, but wouldn't it make sense to keep doing what has worked?
The problem is that there aren't many things that have worked well, and many of them -- like the Mars Rovers -- work well in one environment but would work badly or not at all in a different environment.
Serial port - slightly improved over 1980 serial ports, but still compatible
My new motherboard doesn't have one.
Parallel port - slightly improved over early-1980s parallel port, but still compatible
My new motherboard doesn't have one.
Keyboard - DIN8 instead of DIN5 and different layout and "softer," but otherwise similar to 1980. Still compatible with a cheap adapter.
My new motherboard doesn't have one. It's USB-only.
Video output connector - VGA, circa 1987, but improved in many ways. Still compatible.
VGA isn't 1981 technology, though it's not far off.
DVD burner - the "cd read" functionality came to computers in the late 1980s, to music several years earlier. Can still read early-80s-standard music CDs.
Again, CD-ROMs weren't 1981 technology. CDs weren't even around in 1981, were they? I don't remember seeing them until the mid 80s.
Hard drive - descended from hard drives in the 1960s. SATA protocols descended from SCSI protocols dating from '80s or earlier.
You can't plug a SATA cable into a hard drive from 1981. Even if you could, I don't believe the PATA protocols are that old and I'm not sure SATA supports the non-DMA protocols?
Power supply - many components are technically equivalent to pre-1980s tech.
I would be surprsied if you could plug a 1981 PSU into a modern motherboard or vice-versa.
Screws, fans, and other case hardware - basic tech predates moon landing.
Standard-shape AC power cable dates back farther than I can remember.
True, the AC cables haven't changed.
The blurb indicates that Ethernet is the only technology that we are using from 30 years ago. Back then all the machines I used had Memory, cpus, displays, and keyboards. The particualr technology changed - just like Ethernet technology's changes.
To be fair, you can still plug a modern Ethernet card into a 10Mbps Ethernet network and it will work; the ancient technology is still built into the hardware. You can't plug a Z80 CPU or a 500ns DRAM or a Sinclair rubber keyboard into a modern PC... heck, you can't even plug a PS/2 keyboard into my new server, it has to be USB.
i know there are applications that need it but when it came time to look at 10gbps where i work only backups seemed to benefit from it. then we would need to buy all new servers as well.
1. Backbones. If you have a big gigabit switch connected to another big gigabit switch you don't want a single gigabit connection between them. Similarly, when computers come with 10Gbps ethernet you won't want a single 10Gpbs connection between the switches.
2. As more computers come with SSDs, the LAN becomes the bottleneck when transferring files, not the disk. 10Gbps should be enough for them for some time though.