And let's not forget why we call it stealing...
We call it stealing because the original owner no longer has it. No wait...
We call it stealing because.. umm.. they don't get money?
Oh right we call it stealing because the people who made it need money... no wait..
Oh I remember, we call it stealing because some CEO someplace needs to buy a yatched. Yeah, that sounds right.
It's called stealing because the music is procured under terms not allowed by the copyright owner. 'Stealing' is a definition of behaviour of the theif, and noone else.
Maybe to you. Death is a problem for me because I enjoy life so very much. [...]
You mean you enjoy your life so very much. The amount of energy/resources required to keep you alive can't be used to keep other life alive, and so there's an opportunity cost there - you staying alive prevents others (whether human or otherwise) from having a chance at living.
Death will put a very definite and wholly unwelcomed end to the fun. [...]
No it won't. Death does not "put an end to the fun" because "not-fun" activities also cease to exist when you die. And death cannot, by definition, be unwelcomed because you're not around to judge the action of your death - you're only pre-judging it now.
I can "put and end to editing this message" by clicking on the Submit button, because I can observe the state of the message after the "end" part. But if an asteroid comes and wipes the world away, then the "end" of my editing this message is meaningless, because there's no "after editing this message."
You won't observe the after-effects of your end, so why worry?
"Accepting death" is a defeatist attitude that I just cannot abide.
Accepting the laws of physics is also a defeatist attotude. The opposite of a "defeatist attitude" is an "accepting attitude" (not a "victorious attitude"), which is severely lacking, IMHO.
Don't you think "the government" has thought about the points you bring up? Don't you think they are trying to make us "somewhat happy" so we don't vote their arse out of office?
Case in point: We recently got a permanent speed camera put on a busy road. I have personally sped through these cameras several times without getting a ticket. Friends of mine have sped through it and got nabbed.
Then he told me what he was doing: He was overtaking all the cars, doing 20km/h over the limit on the whole stretch of road, then slamming the brakes when he realized the camera was close.
I, on the other hand, had "drifted" past the limit by only around 5 to 10km/h, and eased the speed back when I realized it.
So, can we now assume that the sending of a ticket is somewhat disconnected from the low-level function of "blinkenlights" when you speed?
And we get back to the problem in the first place: Programmers think they are God because they can create virtually anything, using logic. This ability is then used in ways to support ALL actions of the God-like creature. I smell bad? That's the way I like it. You don't understand what BIOS is? You are an infidel.
Seriously, if you need to think so hard as to not bother with social behavioural skills, then you must not be a very good programmer. A good programmer doesn't need to devote 100% of their brain to the task - they can multitask.
I think you've nailed it on the head when you say speed is the important factor, but I come to the opposite conclusion to you.
The fact that you are your same self 7 years later I beleive is because of the speed. Life revolves around cycles, which *is* time. You change that time frame, you change the life (let me put it this way: if you made the day 48 hours, how many plants would survive?).
Further, teleportation (unless absolutely perfect and instant) must have some form of "time freeze" in it. The only time you can define yourself as a "collection of atoms" is when you take a "snapshot" of yourself (ie: take time out of the equation). However, this snapshot does not say anything about, for example, motion. If I'm in the middle of a thought and get transported, will I finish that thought off? That means that the electrons around my brain must "remember" their projected motion and they all must "continue" at the same time. And unless the teleporter can "freeze" you until you are completely built (or if the teleporter is "perfect"), you'll either die or you're no longer the same person.
This does leave open "dead" object teleportation though.
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Re:Painful? Yes. Helps long term? I don't see it.
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Corporations doing anything for humanitarian reasons? Of course not. That doesn't mean that the end-effect is invalid.
The West (America in particular) spouts on about freedom and markets and everything else. They beleive in it because selfish interests can, on a larger scale, benefit anyone.
So we let the market decide. And let the chips fall where they may.
That's all fine and good when 'success' to you means 'wealth accumulation.' Fortunately, this is not the case for most people. Some people beleive 'success' is when you acheive a kind of 'peace' with the world - when you dismiss the temptations shoved down our throats as white noise (Look! Brown sugar-water! Buy me BUY BUY!!! and you'll be a 'success'!!!!), when gratification comes from a natural source (other humans, flora, jumping up and down on your bed) which costs nothing but time... to get to know the other person, to learn a craft, to read.
As for "[i]f you accept life as it comes, in due process, you will be eliminated as you violate the basic principle of evolution"... gee, maybe you're already getting 'gratification' from some green 'flora' already. 'Cause someone forgot to tell the crocodile to innovate.
I think success in life is similar to success of species - adapt to your surroundings, know the dangers around you, be 'at ease.' Be prepared for danger, opportunity, anything. Always learn. Be humble - you are NOT that smart. The wise man would not dare admit to it for fear of being humbled by three words from the mouth of a child.
If that means constant innovation every single second of your life, so be it. But don't tell me you're more successful than my minimum-wage friends.
Your reasons for calling it the war on terror seem, well, made up. They don't make sense.
The monkier "war on terror" is a marketing inspired slogan in the same vein as "war on drugs." And I know Ronnie didn't think about whether penicilin would be caught in the cross fire. In marketing terms, there are two focal words here: "war" and "terror."
"War" seems to be america's favourite word. Whenever anything bad happens, a war on it is declared. It resonates with the americal gun-ho, rambo culture, and gives the message that "we're gonna kill so we don't suffer again."
"Terror" is chosen for the same reason "drugs" was chosen. It's scary, immediate (ie: doesn't alude to future actions - it's time agnostic), and as beautifully vague as "drugs."
So you see, the american govornment acts very much like those large companies we all love to hate. They use time-proven marketing double-speak with a little hollywood sprinkled in - and they wonder why we (the outside world) are skeptical of the message.
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This will give rise to a new technological morality - "black hat" and "white hat" programmers.
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I can "put and end to editing this message" by clicking on the Submit button, because I can observe the state of the message after the "end" part. But if an asteroid comes and wipes the world away, then the "end" of my editing this message is meaningless, because there's no "after editing this message."
You won't observe the after-effects of your end, so why worry?
Accepting the laws of physics is also a defeatist attotude. The opposite of a "defeatist attitude" is an "accepting attitude" (not a "victorious attitude"), which is severely lacking, IMHO.Dan ...
Dan ...
Don't you think "the government" has thought about the points you bring up? Don't you think they are trying to make us "somewhat happy" so we don't vote their arse out of office?
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Case in point: We recently got a permanent speed camera put on a busy road. I have personally sped through these cameras several times without getting a ticket. Friends of mine have sped through it and got nabbed.
Then he told me what he was doing: He was overtaking all the cars, doing 20km/h over the limit on the whole stretch of road, then slamming the brakes when he realized the camera was close.
I, on the other hand, had "drifted" past the limit by only around 5 to 10km/h, and eased the speed back when I realized it.
So, can we now assume that the sending of a ticket is somewhat disconnected from the low-level function of "blinkenlights" when you speed?
Dan
Seriously, if you need to think so hard as to not bother with social behavioural skills, then you must not be a very good programmer. A good programmer doesn't need to devote 100% of their brain to the task - they can multitask.
The fact that you are your same self 7 years later I beleive is because of the speed. Life revolves around cycles, which *is* time. You change that time frame, you change the life (let me put it this way: if you made the day 48 hours, how many plants would survive?).
Further, teleportation (unless absolutely perfect and instant) must have some form of "time freeze" in it. The only time you can define yourself as a "collection of atoms" is when you take a "snapshot" of yourself (ie: take time out of the equation). However, this snapshot does not say anything about, for example, motion. If I'm in the middle of a thought and get transported, will I finish that thought off? That means that the electrons around my brain must "remember" their projected motion and they all must "continue" at the same time. And unless the teleporter can "freeze" you until you are completely built (or if the teleporter is "perfect"), you'll either die or you're no longer the same person.
This does leave open "dead" object teleportation though.
Dan ...
The West (America in particular) spouts on about freedom and markets and everything else. They beleive in it because selfish interests can, on a larger scale, benefit anyone.
So we let the market decide. And let the chips fall where they may.
Dan ...
As for "[i]f you accept life as it comes, in due process, you will be eliminated as you violate the basic principle of evolution"... gee, maybe you're already getting 'gratification' from some green 'flora' already. 'Cause someone forgot to tell the crocodile to innovate.
I think success in life is similar to success of species - adapt to your surroundings, know the dangers around you, be 'at ease.' Be prepared for danger, opportunity, anything. Always learn. Be humble - you are NOT that smart. The wise man would not dare admit to it for fear of being humbled by three words from the mouth of a child.
If that means constant innovation every single second of your life, so be it. But don't tell me you're more successful than my minimum-wage friends.
Dan ...
The monkier "war on terror" is a marketing inspired slogan in the same vein as "war on drugs." And I know Ronnie didn't think about whether penicilin would be caught in the cross fire. In marketing terms, there are two focal words here: "war" and "terror."
"War" seems to be america's favourite word. Whenever anything bad happens, a war on it is declared. It resonates with the americal gun-ho, rambo culture, and gives the message that "we're gonna kill so we don't suffer again."
"Terror" is chosen for the same reason "drugs" was chosen. It's scary, immediate (ie: doesn't alude to future actions - it's time agnostic), and as beautifully vague as "drugs."
So you see, the american govornment acts very much like those large companies we all love to hate. They use time-proven marketing double-speak with a little hollywood sprinkled in - and they wonder why we (the outside world) are skeptical of the message.
Dan ...