Not in the short term. Perhaps over the course of a few hundred thousand years, yeah sure, but there's a lot of living one can do in that amount of time.
You know, the edge of the Sun will eventually envelop the earth when its supply of helium runs out and it expands in a few million years as well, but that doesn't stop me from planting new tomato plants in the back yard each year simply because the earth is doomed to be evaporated at some distant point in the future. Perspective, people!
What's wrong with having a new planet to explore (or even exploit)? Wouldn't you rather have all the toxic heavy industry on Mars and off this planet if it could be done?
Oh, I get it. _We_ want to populate Mars with _our_ kind of life, so that someday _we_ might live there, after _we_ have ruined our own planet.
Are you seriously saying that our kind of life, the Slashdot-reading, Internet-communicating kind of life is equal or less than equal to some proto-bacteria that may or may not exist on Mars? I take it then that you don't kill bacteria when you find it in your house or on your body since the bacteria on your toilet or in your armpits has just as much an equal right to life as you do.
It's not really surprising at all. A lightning bolt makes a distinct short crack if you are close to it, which becomes the sustained rumble of thunder if you are much distance away. In fact, the length of the rumble increases as the distance between you and the lightning bolt increases. It's due to the reflection of the sound off other objects spreading the sound out. The same phenomenon should happen with the sound of an earthquake as it travels through the earth's crust should it not? Because the sound was recorded some distance away, it should not equal the same length of time the "earth's crust was ripping" anymore than the sound of thunder some distance away from a thunderstorm is a record of the duration of the earth's atmosphere ripping from a lightning strike.
Sweden changed the DST period few years ago. As far as I remember there were no big problems.
Sweden is a poor choice for an example as they seem to be able to do these things better than most countries. Heck, they switched from driving on the left to driving on the right in 1967 and there were no big problems!
I'm sure many of us understand how the BBC works, it's funded in majority by the license fee we Brits have to pay per household every year. I think I paid 130UKP last year (220USD).
Likewise, I'm sure you are aware that the Global Positioning System is funded wholly by an income tax levyed on my personal income and paid to the Department of Defense.
it smacks a little bit of unfairness if my US based cousins can enjoy what is arguably the best part of the BBC (BBC Online) without having to contribute a penny.
And likewise unfair that you can enjoy a precision navigation system paid for entirely on the dime of the U.S. taxpayer.
BBC Online should be protected in-line with the rest of the BBC, the content should be un-lockable via entry of my license number.
And you should have to use a smart card with a paid-up subscription to activate any GPS receiver you may want to use -- oh wait, isn't that what you have in mind for the Galileo system?
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The most bizarre I ever ran across was on BBC2 one early morn. I saw a programme in the Radio Times called "Naked Yoga." I thought it would be an essential guide to yoga or an introduction to yoga basics. But no, it was just 30 minutes of people doing yoga while actually naked. No commentary or anything, just mostly wrinklies in various yoga positions with no clothes on.
Why would radicals not also be capable of defacing it? And why use the word "deface" anyway? Are any opposing opinions automatically supposed to be "defacing" it?
I have to agree with the notion that if terraforming was so easy, maybe we could try to get the Earth back to its pre-industrial state before worrying about other worlds.
Hey, if you like filth, ignorance, disease, and poverty you're in the distinct minority. I much prefer soap and shampoo to filth, knowledge of the world at my fingertips in preference to ignorance, high-tech medicines in preference to early death, and having available all the technology in a local Best Buy and the resources of a Wal-Mart in preference to shitting in an outhouse and killing my own hogs for breakfast sausages.
I like what the guy a few posts up said....Would you be OK with it if you had to go to court and your lawyer showed up with all sorts of visible tats and strange body piercings?
Or have your surgeon show up like that just before you are wheeled into surgery?
The UK is the only broadcast to not take the show seriously and that makes Terry Wogan's commentary the best part of the show. It's like a live version of MST3K.
The Taliban when they blew up the Bamiyan Buddhas were engaging in an act of Terrorism were they not? If the Israelis were to blow up the Al Aqsa Mosque, that too would be an act of terrorism, no?
Many of which are "enchanced", with originals a bit hard to find.
Huh? Every picture there is linked to its original MOC picture by clicking on the MOC numbers in the description of the photo. He even gives lat/longs for each feature.
Here's the first, second, thinrd, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth a, and ninth b images all linked to the original image on Malin Space Systems Servers. Malin is the contractor that runs the Mars orbital program for NASA. You can't get any more original than a link to the actual MSSS image which he did. And the "enhancements" seem to be limited to brightness/contrast changes only.
Thanks for the explanation. They are certainly very curious photos though. Too bad the site is already slashdotted. You do agree that they need further exploration I hope. Do you know what the image I linked from MSSS shows?
I said nothing about trees. I simply said that the photos showed possible evidence of something organic (that after all is what this thread is about you know).
There are some rather strange images from the Mars Orbiter Camera that don't appear to show geologic activity at first glance and do resemble bacteria beds or something organic. We need to go investigate!
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Not in the short term. Perhaps over the course of a few hundred thousand years, yeah sure, but there's a lot of living one can do in that amount of time.
You know, the edge of the Sun will eventually envelop the earth when its supply of helium runs out and it expands in a few million years as well, but that doesn't stop me from planting new tomato plants in the back yard each year simply because the earth is doomed to be evaporated at some distant point in the future. Perspective, people!
What's wrong with having a new planet to explore (or even exploit)? Wouldn't you rather have all the toxic heavy industry on Mars and off this planet if it could be done?
Are you seriously saying that our kind of life, the Slashdot-reading, Internet-communicating kind of life is equal or less than equal to some proto-bacteria that may or may not exist on Mars? I take it then that you don't kill bacteria when you find it in your house or on your body since the bacteria on your toilet or in your armpits has just as much an equal right to life as you do.
The National Map Viewer at USGS has the ability to overlay topo maps (and a whole bunch of other data) over aerial imagery.
It's not really surprising at all. A lightning bolt makes a distinct short crack if you are close to it, which becomes the sustained rumble of thunder if you are much distance away. In fact, the length of the rumble increases as the distance between you and the lightning bolt increases. It's due to the reflection of the sound off other objects spreading the sound out. The same phenomenon should happen with the sound of an earthquake as it travels through the earth's crust should it not? Because the sound was recorded some distance away, it should not equal the same length of time the "earth's crust was ripping" anymore than the sound of thunder some distance away from a thunderstorm is a record of the duration of the earth's atmosphere ripping from a lightning strike.
Wikipedia has the details.
Sweden is a poor choice for an example as they seem to be able to do these things better than most countries. Heck, they switched from driving on the left to driving on the right in 1967 and there were no big problems!
Likewise, I'm sure you are aware that the Global Positioning System is funded wholly by an income tax levyed on my personal income and paid to the Department of Defense.
it smacks a little bit of unfairness if my US based cousins can enjoy what is arguably the best part of the BBC (BBC Online) without having to contribute a penny.
And likewise unfair that you can enjoy a precision navigation system paid for entirely on the dime of the U.S. taxpayer.
BBC Online should be protected in-line with the rest of the BBC, the content should be un-lockable via entry of my license number.
And you should have to use a smart card with a paid-up subscription to activate any GPS receiver you may want to use -- oh wait, isn't that what you have in mind for the Galileo system?
Here's a photo of Wawadigital.net's storefront. Don Wiss has done a great job of documenting all the camera shop storefronts in Brooklyn (where most of the scammers are) and Manhattan (where the few legitimate stores are). Some look somewhat dubious in spite of multi-page slick advertisments in mass-market photo magazines. Would you rather buy from this place or this one?
That's fine just as long as you stay the hell out of the left lane.
The most bizarre I ever ran across was on BBC2 one early morn. I saw a programme in the Radio Times called "Naked Yoga." I thought it would be an essential guide to yoga or an introduction to yoga basics. But no, it was just 30 minutes of people doing yoga while actually naked. No commentary or anything, just mostly wrinklies in various yoga positions with no clothes on.
Why would radicals not also be capable of defacing it? And why use the word "deface" anyway? Are any opposing opinions automatically supposed to be "defacing" it?
http://nmviewogc.cr.usgs.gov/viewer.htm
Hey, if you like filth, ignorance, disease, and poverty you're in the distinct minority. I much prefer soap and shampoo to filth, knowledge of the world at my fingertips in preference to ignorance, high-tech medicines in preference to early death, and having available all the technology in a local Best Buy and the resources of a Wal-Mart in preference to shitting in an outhouse and killing my own hogs for breakfast sausages.
Or have your surgeon show up like that just before you are wheeled into surgery?
And if you get a ham radio license you can up the power of your 802.11g connection to 1,500 Watts -- legally.
The UK is the only broadcast to not take the show seriously and that makes Terry Wogan's commentary the best part of the show. It's like a live version of MST3K.
I will. It's at http://www.piratebay.org./
The Taliban when they blew up the Bamiyan Buddhas were engaging in an act of Terrorism were they not? If the Israelis were to blow up the Al Aqsa Mosque, that too would be an act of terrorism, no?
You can break out the coded ACARS messages. Here's one example of how.
Huh? Every picture there is linked to its original MOC picture by clicking on the MOC numbers in the description of the photo. He even gives lat/longs for each feature.
Here's the first, second, thinrd, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth a, and ninth b images all linked to the original image on Malin Space Systems Servers. Malin is the contractor that runs the Mars orbital program for NASA. You can't get any more original than a link to the actual MSSS image which he did. And the "enhancements" seem to be limited to brightness/contrast changes only.
Thanks for the explanation. They are certainly very curious photos though. Too bad the site is already slashdotted. You do agree that they need further exploration I hope. Do you know what the image I linked from MSSS shows?
I said nothing about trees. I simply said that the photos showed possible evidence of something organic (that after all is what this thread is about you know).
Even more such pictures are at this site dedicated to pointing them out. Wow. Just wow.
There are some rather strange images from the Mars Orbiter Camera that don't appear to show geologic activity at first glance and do resemble bacteria beds or something organic. We need to go investigate!