And the funny things is India already starting to lose outsourcing jobs to China and one other country ( near Russia, I think ). So soon people will be leaving India alone and be whining about them.
I wonder who India will whine about...China?
I hate all this jabber about outsourcing myself. Unless it something like companies relocating business where they can run sweatshops legally to save money, it's not that big a deal. I.e. if there is nothing hokey going on, it's alright by me.
I pretty intelligent when it comes to computers, but I ( ashamedly ) have no idea how to vote. Every time I go to vote it turns out I needed to register ( when, where, how ? ) so I wind up not being able to vote. Can anyone point me in the right direction. No flames please, I honestly don't have a clue a nd a URL or other info would be helpful.
Oh, the only time I voted was by absentee ballot while overseas ( military ) and my hand was held through the whole process. Now that I am civilian, its always seems like "suprise! it's time to vote! You didn't register? Too bad, maybe next time."
Here is my idea, don't make a "license" required, but do offer courses in subjects such as "building your own computer", "how to install Windows/Linux", "how to connect to Internet with a cable modem", "how to connect to Internet with a DSL router", "how to connect to Internet with an analog modem", "how to secure Windows - levels 1-3", "how to secure Linux, levels 1-3" to the general public.
Have these courses designed for people who usually don't use computers for their livelyhood or otherwise aren't forces to be literate.
DO negotiate with ISP's and see if they can offer discount or some other benefit to people for having passed 1 or more of these courses, the theory being that graduates will cause a lower drag on tech support resources, and thereby save the ISP some $$$ in support calls.
Oh, I am planning on doing something like this where I live. I think it will work as long as the courses are not too expensive, too complicated, and that there is some sort of incentive for Joe Sixpack to take the course ( saving money might do the trick ).
The courses themselves would be a good way to introduce Joe to OS's and applications other than what came preinstalled on his system ( examples: Linux, Mozilla ) and decrease the chances that Microsoft vulnerabilities will have the widespread effects they have had in the past ( Nimba, CodeRed, Sobig, Lovsan, etc ).
Would you be willing to buy a gift certificate for one of these classes to send your Aunt Matilda off to be educated?
I think it would work. The whole challenge ( to reiterate ) is to give sufficient incentive for people to attend, especially the ones who want things to "just work."
>>The United States is a nation of immigrants. >>The number of 'native' people here is confined >>to mostly people who have property right to an >>'indian' reservation. The rest of us are either >>from somewhere else or of people decended from >>somewhere else within the last 200 years. There >>are very few people who can claim their only >>lineage from the original east coast Pre-US >>colonies.
Well, if you believe the theory that the American Indians migrated to the Americas over a land bridge that once crossed the bering ( excuse spelling ) straits, then even they are not "natives".
Yes, I am splitting hairs, but I figured some people may find it interesting.
If done by enough people, RIAA goes out of business, or at least doesn't have the funds to keep all of its lawyers on payroll anymore. PLUS it would definitely get lots of media attention.
And this thread reminds me of the saying "Don't sweat the small stuff." You made a typo. Its perfectly understandable, and your intended meaning it 100% clear. So, don't lose any sleep over it.
Tell me about it. I can't believe people are happy to give up their electronic freedoms and turn the Internet into a RIAA-type model where people can only get what is fed to them, and nothing more.
I run my own mailserver too, as do most of my friends. Are the other posters so certain the majoriy of users don't run mail servers? Or are they just assuming it is so?
Actually, he is right on target. I changes ISP's early this year because my old ISP decided to start blocking ports on "non-business" accounts. Turns out they underestimated how much traffic their clients were going to generate and were losing money, so they changed their service structure ( after I had been with them for 6 months ) and made you pay 4 times the normal monthly service fee to have your ports unblocked.
Luckily there it competition in this market, and I easily found an ISP that didn't block jack squat and didn't care what my OS was and what apps ( servers and whatnot ) I ran over my connection. They can rest assured I will remain their loyal customer unless they start restricting my Internet access.
The whole issue of having ISP block ports stems from all the reason Microsoft OS-only exploits that brought down entire networks and caused a ton of spam. Why not address the problem at its source ( software ) rather than try and use rubber bands and chewing to patch it?
I would be much more keen to have ISP's not allow systems running Microsoft Windows on their networks than having everyone running other OS's being punished by others mistakes.
Insightful? Hell no! The whole issue of having ISP block ports stems from all the reason Microsoft OS -only exploits that brought down entire networks and caused a ton of spam. Why not address the problem at its source ( software ) rather than try and use rubber bands and chewing to patch it?
I would be much more keen to have ISP's not allow systems running Microsoft Windows on their networks than having everyone running other OS's being punished by others mistakes.
As others have posted, who cares? Free huh? Perhaps free as far as money goes, but there is the cost of signing up and having to sign in just to read their news. The Internet was designed for sharing information, I don't believe anyone should post any information on the web without expecting it to be accessed free of charge, or requiring registration. And, thanks to the web being a competitive environment, there will always be news sites that don't require you to jump through hoops to use them.
I second the vote to ban NYT site stories from Slashdot.
I was kind of like that, I had a billion mp3's I copied from friends and never had time to go through them to see if I liked any of them before I accidently wiped my RAID array one day. As far as mp3's I download, I do delete them and replace them with much better versions ( higher bitrate ) after I buy the album. If the song just sux, I delete usually delete it right away, but some songs can sit on my HD months before I screen them, as I spend most of my time listening to the stuff I know is good. And then there are the few mp3's I keep around just in case a friend might want to listen to it, even though I have no interest.
Tell your friends: 1. Don't preview email 2. Delete email you don't know or trust 3. Don't open attachments if they're not absolutely known and expected 3. Update early and often
or...
1. Run Linux.
It's nice to kick back in your armchair while everyone else I know scrambles to get their patches installed. Unfortunately, I do IT support at work and they have a few thousand systems running Windows. Can you say job security boys and girls? I knew you could.
I agree, it must be a Corporate edition. The company I work for has a small group of people who build disk images ( ghost ) at a central location and then everyone else nation-wide copies those images and build their computers ( software setup ) from them. This makes sure everyone is on the same sheet of music and that the setup employees use has been thoroughly test to reduce maintenance requirements. Heh. that was a mouthful.
Btw, one of my previous employers did the same thing you did. They would buy a 50 copies of an application, put the originals in a storage room. Then install the software to 50 computers over the network, writing down the name of each person who had a copy to ensure license compliance.
It takes more then the root password. By default root cannot login via SSH. The user must first login with a user name and password for an account in the wheel group, and then know the closely guarded root password. This can be changed, but there are warnings all around the configuration file where you do this telling you that it is bad security to allow root ssh access. Oh, the "all it takes is to know the root password" part of you post is funny. Only a real idiot makes that password available to anyone other than himself. If some users need elevated priveleges, you can use "sudo" to let them run some commands as root, or just "suid" the binaries they need to run with root access privleges, no need to give them the root password at all.
Funny, I am a home user, and I went through all the trouble of setting up my own mail server/domain hosting just because I don't want my personal info sitting on a box I don't control. Hmm, I have multiple domains, use postfix mail filtering, and am a home user. Even non-technical users I know who ask when it is safe to plug in a mouse to their laptop have multiple email accounts ( a mix of home/school/work ), ask me for help setting up a home LAN so they and their wife/kids can be online on different computers, even ask about wireless networking (which I am purposely slow to adopt, so they are asking the wrong person ).
By the way, these people are realtors, milk salesmen( yep, sell milk), high school students, and even a grocery store clerk is in the bunch. Don't underestimate Joe user. He will suprise you every time.
I thought the whole reason SCO has not been forced to do anything by the U.S. legal system is that the trial isn't until 2005? I read that here on Slashdot yesterday. Can someone confirm this?
Very insightful and on the mark. I even like your sig! I know, it just isn't right to get positive feedback on Slashdot, but I couldn't find any spelling or punctuation errors in your post. Maybe next time.
Hmm, one of your sentences seems to be a run-on. There you go, some negative feedback. LOL.
At least you have the intelligence not to say the words "SCO" and "Intellectual" in the same sentence. I mean, the reason they are fighting so hard to protect their Intellectual Property in their code is they they don't have any between their ears.
And dont' forget about the exploits that are reported to Microsoft and are totally ignored[by Microsoft]. There have been man-in-the-middle attacks that were reported 18 months before they were fixed. In the meantime, hackers took advantage of M$'s lax attitude towards security.
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Amen! Um, I mean...not that I download porn...no...never...
And the funny things is India already starting to lose outsourcing jobs to China and one other country ( near Russia, I think ). So soon people will be leaving India alone and be whining about them.
I wonder who India will whine about...China?
I hate all this jabber about outsourcing myself. Unless it something like companies relocating business where they can run sweatshops legally to save money, it's not that big a deal. I.e. if there is nothing hokey going on, it's alright by me.
I pretty intelligent when it comes to computers, but I ( ashamedly ) have no idea how to vote. Every time I go to vote it turns out I needed to register ( when, where, how ? ) so I wind up not being able to vote. Can anyone point me in the right direction. No flames please, I honestly don't have a clue a
nd a URL or other info would be helpful.
Oh, the only time I voted was by absentee ballot while overseas ( military ) and my hand was held through the whole process. Now that I am civilian, its always seems like "suprise! it's time to vote! You didn't register? Too bad, maybe next time."
Here is my idea, don't make a "license" required, but do offer courses in subjects such as "building your own computer", "how to install Windows/Linux", "how to connect to Internet with a cable modem", "how to connect to Internet with a DSL router", "how to connect to Internet with an analog modem", "how to secure Windows - levels 1-3", "how to secure Linux, levels 1-3" to the general public.
Have these courses designed for
people who usually don't use computers for their livelyhood or otherwise aren't forces to be literate.
DO negotiate with ISP's and see if they can offer discount or some other benefit to people for having passed 1 or more of these courses, the theory being that graduates will cause a lower drag on tech support resources, and thereby save the ISP some $$$ in support calls.
Oh, I am planning on doing something like this where I live. I think it will work as long as the courses are not too expensive, too complicated, and that there is some sort of incentive for Joe Sixpack to take the course ( saving money might do the trick ).
The courses themselves would be a good way to introduce Joe to OS's and applications other than what came preinstalled on his system ( examples: Linux, Mozilla ) and decrease the chances that Microsoft vulnerabilities will have the widespread effects they have had in the past ( Nimba, CodeRed, Sobig, Lovsan, etc ).
Would you be willing to buy a gift certificate for one of these classes to send your Aunt Matilda off to be educated?
I think it would work. The whole challenge ( to reiterate ) is to give sufficient incentive for people to attend, especially the ones who want things to "just work."
>>The United States is a nation of immigrants.
>>The number of 'native' people here is confined >>to mostly people who have property right to an >>'indian' reservation. The rest of us are either >>from somewhere else or of people decended from >>somewhere else within the last 200 years. There >>are very few people who can claim their only >>lineage from the original east coast Pre-US >>colonies.
Well, if you believe the theory that the American Indians migrated to the Americas over a land bridge that once crossed the bering ( excuse spelling ) straits, then even they are not "natives".
Yes, I am splitting hairs, but I figured some people may find it interesting.
If done by enough people, RIAA goes out of business, or at least doesn't have the funds to keep all of its lawyers on payroll anymore. PLUS it would definitely get lots of media attention.
And this thread reminds me of the saying "Don't sweat the small stuff." You made a typo. Its perfectly understandable, and your intended meaning it 100% clear. So, don't lose any sleep over it.
Tell me about it. I can't believe people are happy to give up their electronic freedoms and turn the Internet into a RIAA-type model where people can only get what is fed to them, and nothing more.
I run my own mailserver too, as do most of my friends. Are the other posters so certain the majoriy of users don't run mail servers? Or are they just assuming it is so?
Actually, he is right on target. I changes ISP's early this year because my old ISP decided to start blocking ports on "non-business" accounts. Turns out they underestimated how much traffic their clients were going to generate and were losing money, so they changed their service structure ( after I had been with them for 6 months ) and made you pay 4 times the normal monthly service fee to have your ports unblocked.
Luckily there it competition in this market, and I easily found an ISP that didn't block jack squat and didn't care what my OS was and what apps ( servers and whatnot ) I ran over my connection. They can rest assured I will remain their loyal customer unless they start restricting my Internet access.
The whole issue of having ISP block ports stems from all the reason Microsoft OS-only exploits that brought down entire networks and caused a ton of spam. Why not address the problem at its source ( software ) rather than try and use rubber bands and chewing to patch it?
I would be much more keen to have ISP's not allow systems running Microsoft Windows on their networks than having everyone running other OS's being punished by others mistakes.
Insightful? Hell no! The whole issue of having ISP block ports stems from all the reason Microsoft OS -only exploits that brought down entire networks and caused a ton of spam. Why not address the problem at its source ( software ) rather than try and use rubber bands and chewing to patch it?
I would be much more keen to have ISP's not allow systems running Microsoft Windows on their networks than having everyone running other OS's being punished by others mistakes.
No else reply it Illbay. The user is a total idiot and any attempt to use reason is hopeless.
As others have posted, who cares? Free huh? Perhaps free as far as money goes, but there is the cost of signing up and having to sign in just to read their news. The Internet was designed for sharing information, I don't believe anyone should post any information on the web without expecting it to be accessed free of charge, or requiring registration. And, thanks to the web being a competitive environment, there will always be news sites that don't require you to jump through hoops to use them.
I second the vote to ban NYT site stories from Slashdot.
I was kind of like that, I had a billion mp3's I copied from friends and never had time to go through them to see if I liked any of them before I accidently wiped my RAID array one day. As far as mp3's I download, I do delete them and replace them with much better versions ( higher bitrate ) after I buy the album.
If the song just sux, I delete usually delete it right away, but some songs can sit on my HD months before I screen them, as I spend most of my time listening to the stuff I know is good.
And then there are the few mp3's I keep around just in case a friend might want to listen to it, even though I have no interest.
Tell your friends:
1. Don't preview email
2. Delete email you don't know or trust
3. Don't open attachments if they're not absolutely known and expected
3. Update early and often
or...
1. Run Linux.
It's nice to kick back in your armchair while everyone else I know scrambles to get their patches installed. Unfortunately, I do IT support at work and they have a few thousand systems running Windows. Can you say job security boys and girls? I knew you could.
I agree, it must be a Corporate edition. The company I work for has a small group of people who build disk images ( ghost ) at a central location and then
everyone else nation-wide copies those images and build their computers ( software setup ) from them. This makes sure everyone is on the same sheet of music and that the setup employees use has been thoroughly test to reduce maintenance requirements. Heh. that was a mouthful.
Btw, one of my previous employers did the same thing you did. They would buy a 50 copies of an application, put the originals in a storage room. Then install the software to 50 computers over the network, writing down the name of each person who had a copy to ensure license compliance.
It takes more then the root password. By default root cannot login via SSH. The user must first login with a user name and password for an account in the wheel group, and then know the closely guarded root password. This can be changed, but there are warnings all around the configuration file where you do this telling you that it is bad security to allow root ssh access. Oh, the "all it takes is to know the root password" part of you post is funny. Only a real idiot makes that password available to anyone other than himself. If some users need elevated priveleges, you can use "sudo" to let them run some commands as root, or just "suid" the binaries they need to run with root access privleges, no need to give them the root password at all.
Funny, I am a home user, and I went through all the trouble of setting up my own mail server/domain hosting just because I don't want my personal info sitting on a box I don't control. Hmm, I have multiple domains, use postfix mail filtering, and am
a home user. Even non-technical users I know who ask when it is safe to plug in a mouse to their laptop have multiple email accounts ( a mix of home/school/work ), ask me for help setting up a home LAN so they and their wife/kids can be online on different computers, even ask about wireless networking (which I am purposely slow to adopt, so they are asking the wrong person ).
By the way, these people are realtors, milk salesmen( yep, sell milk), high school students, and even a grocery store clerk is in the bunch. Don't underestimate Joe user. He will suprise you every time.
I thought the whole reason SCO has not been forced to do anything by the U.S. legal system is that the trial isn't until 2005? I read that here on Slashdot yesterday. Can someone confirm this?
Oh, and your analogy is good.
Very insightful and on the mark. I even like your sig! I know, it just isn't right to get positive feedback on Slashdot, but I couldn't find any spelling or punctuation errors in your post. Maybe next time.
Hmm, one of your sentences seems to be a run-on. There you go, some negative feedback. LOL.
At least you have the intelligence not to say the words "SCO" and "Intellectual" in the same sentence. I mean, the reason they are fighting so hard to protect their Intellectual Property in their code is they they don't have any between their ears.
Maybe we do. I mean, if they bring Pandora's Box, then Angelina Jolie will show up eventually, right? :)
Couldn't they do it the other way?
SCO: I have you now!
Redhat: Look!(pointing at IBM ) It's Godzilla!
SCO: Whu...?
Redhat knocks SCO out while he is looking at IBM.
I can dream, can't I?
And dont' forget about the exploits that are reported to Microsoft and are totally ignored[by Microsoft]. There have been man-in-the-middle attacks that were reported 18 months before they were fixed. In the meantime, hackers took advantage of M$'s lax attitude towards security.