I would just download the boot.iso file and burn it. Then you can either 1) Install via FTP or HTTP 2) Download the whole tree and install from harddisk.
I prefer method number 1. It has worked good for me and I didn't have to pay. To help other people install it, I would download the tree, set up an ftp server on my laptop and then use a crossover cable. It works great. Just make sure to change your urpmi settings to reflect a "real" mirror rather than your temporary mirror. The install takes between 15 and 45 minutes.
I first read your link as Segway for the Highway Now THAT would be something to see. A Segway traveling at 60-70 mph would be quite interesting to see.
There is an updating tool for free. There is also one that cots, but lets you manage updates remotely and has them automatically done. I'll just stick with the first though, as I'm broke.
If I remember correctly each entrance that was built in this fashion was named eye of a needle. Though you could be right, either way, we know what was intended and we apply it to ourselves. Isn't that the purpose of this whole thing?
Also, just to add, isn't it also where they would have to remove all goods from off of the camel so that it would fit. That makes it teach the lesson extremely well when saying that the rich man would have a harder time than a camel going through "eye of a needle."
There are some translation errors, which is perfectly understandable considering the length of the book, but that isn't one of them.
I understand your point. Evidance won't change what is happening either way. I would like to see if sharing has hurt or helped the industry.
Personally, I don't copy music or video using p2p technology. I download large ISO files to burn cd's of my favorite distro of linux. I think that the parent of your post was making the point that they are attacking something that isn't hurting them at all. Its like me going after the speeders to try and reduce the armed robberies in a city. They may both be crimes, but one is doing much more damage.
This post is referring more to p2p, but I think it applies in many differant situations, including this one.
I did reword the other post, but I felt that it never hurts to say it again. (in this case anyway... not saying I'm a redundant poster or anything.)
The military gets a lot of flak from people. I do agree, the other post was very similar. How could I have written it differantly?
My father was in the military so I have a great respect for the military and the amount of combined devotion that has been given to keep me safe here at home. I'm sure many others have that same respect. Even if it has been said by one person, it hasn't been said enough.
It this doesn't bother me at all. It was meant as a joke (see the anonymous parent.)
On a more serious note: The icons can be a bit misleading sometimes and I have to guess what they mean, but they do stick with me after I learn what they mean.
Yeah, that was Doom II. What a great game! I loved modding it. I remember getting one of those wad file editors and designing levels with all sorts of crazy stuff. Either way, for its time, the game was pretty scarey. I was hoping that this would have the same thing. I enjoy having a good scare. I guess once I get a system that runs it I'll finally know.
Free doesn't equal bad. In fact, I have made music (I was no good at it) and gave it to friends who copied it and did the same. Nothing is wrong with that. The problem is this... I'm sure that the music industry will say that P2P is illegal, which it isn't. I use it all the time to grab large ISO files. They will say that sharing multimedia is illegal, which it isn't, as long as someone has permission. What I mean to say is that they will teach what they want people to know, not what is entirely correct.
I don't reallly like windows because it has cost me a lot of time/money. I also have stopped using it, although i'm sure tha many here use MS, sometimes because they dual boot, sometimes because they are at work or in some other situation. Here in the dominican republic, everyone uses internet centers to connect to the internet, and that means we usually have to use windows (although I am starting to carry MandrakeMove around so that I can use linux even in internet centers.)
I agree. However, if I am earning enough, I don't think that I should go out and be super picky about everything just to earn even more. I really enjoy working on computers, and for being a computer guy, I don't earn very much. I earned enough to get by though, so I was happy making other people happy. I'm not really an artist, but it's kinda, sorta connected in a weird way.
Man. I think your link is broken. I was wanting to try that out, seeing as I have a p3 w/ 196 mb RAM and a voodoo 5. THe doom3byemail would have been what I needed.
On a side note: You know, it wasn't all that long ago when the voodoo 5 was a decent card... and then 3dfx died.:-( I was wanting to get the 6000 series just to say that I had a quad processor graphics card.
Yes, this was meant to be funny, but I guess you already know that.
I'm not. I usually use something like bittorrent and/or mutella to download ISO images. That appears to be legal (as long as the owners of the ISO files allow it.) Stereotypes are usually wrong.
A lot of companies now-a-days seem to have problems with letting out source code. The market has been moving to support services and away from actual software production except for the game market, so letting out the source code should become easier and easier as time passes. Also, as many have already mentioned, since the cd will be bought by a few and then mirrored all over the internet (which the GPL will allow) maybe we will all be able to download it for free anyway. I doubt that the company will be able to really make and profit off of this not-so-intelligent move.
Now the question is, who would we go to if we wanted to see this idea implemented. I don't know nearly enough to start something like this. The only work I could do would be to translate, and that's it. Are their any projects that you know of where I could submit this idea. It would be really good in a lab environment like you said. This could also branch between schools, and allow technology (especially open source stuff) to be shared between schools. It would add another level of inovation is schools. I would like to see school copying the best of other schools ideas. Any ideas?
I hope you have some clean laundry... I should probably take care of mine sometime.:-) Thanks for the reminder.
Anyone that studies the Bible would know that it isn't self contradicting. I don't mean to argue with you, but you should realize that the bible has been translated and in the translation, many things have been unfortunatly lost (or changed). So as many things appear to be contradicting, if you look at how they may have been in original context, it isn't confusing at all. But, just to make sure, God has given us even other ways of knowing the truth (a 100 percent dependance on the bible for knowledge isn't how to know the truth of all things.) God is smarter though and still gets the truth through to some and the others usually reject it, but that's how life goes.
I agree with you though, it is sad what some people do in tha name of God or the name of Jesus Christ. Something that I have found out though has been that they don't really believe in what they do. They do it because they have found an excuse that they can pull from. It would be better to say that when people believe that they have a valid excuse they can... (put whatever action here.)
I almost agree completely with your post. I like how you mentioned that the bible doesn't contain everything. I would assume then that you would agree with me when I say that there could very easily be more scripture that we haven't yet recieved. I believe God is a god of order and that he wouldn't let us stay confused. That would mean that we should be expecting/ looking for more scripture to clarify. What's your opinion on this?
You know... this is kinda changing the topic on this thread, but would it be possible to make a Linux Distro that would install itself via p2p (somthing like bittorrent) on an internal network? I think that would be neat if a server could be set up and then if software fails, you through in a boot cd, it boots up, and installs all of the packages from a p2p server. It wouldn't work all that well in a world scale, but if the server was inside the network, it would be great, although ftp would probably suffice. I think that could be useful in a school environment. (Coming from the overworked, underpaid, find that cd now, high school tech standpoint.) It is just another way of doing the same thing, except bittorrent would help when installing something like 150 machines at once.
Anyways... trying to get remotely on topic again. Yeah, the napster as insurance isn't going to change anything. I could picture students just doing there own thing and skipping the whole napster thing. If they are trying to save bandwidth, it would be best to just set up a nice proxy server that caches (almost) everything and then open up ports or turn off throttling at appropriate times. There is way too much involved in trying to control this, there just has to be some way to let legit users still use it while being able to catch illegit users. It would be an interesting study to see what kind of traffic changes occur because of this. Of course, none will probably be done and so the effectiveness won't ever be seen or realized (if there is a change or not). Oh well... Thanks for the discussion. (And yes, discussoin of principles is great)
No offense taken. We are here to share ideas. As far as I understand (please correct me if I am mistaken) I have the right to distribute my material in the manner that I wish. This pertains to e-books, music, whatever. If I am wanting to share via p2p, but I can't (because of "squash the minority" strategy), that would be infringement upon my rights.
I don't know the exact costs on things, but if the napster idea is taken, it could very possibly be more expensive than seperating the legit from illegit users.
I do agree though, p2p isn't very useful in a high school environment. It would be best used as a research tool for college level stuff. (Students searching for common papers that are open to the public, or setting an autoget on a topic so when they get back from lunch it has a bunch of material for them.)
I agree with you. I think it even stretches farther than that. Even in public high schools, our tax money is mis-used. Traffic shaping is good, or putting up rules and regulations with enforcement works better. Traffic shaping would kill off even the legit sharers. I use p2p all the time for moving ISO's or finding differant files for my linux machine. It bugs me to no end when my rights are infringed to target a larger group. They should keep good enough track of their own network that they can find the offenders and enforce rules. Throwing more money at the problem won't solve it.
Thanks for the correction. So the whole spanish thing is getting to me. (I haven't really spoken english in a few years.)
It still was nice that it blocked the pop-up ad. That has to be one of the best features out there. It simply blocks them but allows a way to show the good pop-ups. Just with that feature, you could overtake the IE market...
We just have to make sure that they can spell better than me.
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I would just download the boot.iso file and burn it. Then you can either
1) Install via FTP or HTTP
2) Download the whole tree and install from harddisk.
I prefer method number 1. It has worked good for me and I didn't have to pay. To help other people install it, I would download the tree, set up an ftp server on my laptop and then use a crossover cable. It works great. Just make sure to change your urpmi settings to reflect a "real" mirror rather than your temporary mirror. The install takes between 15 and 45 minutes.
I first read your link as Segway for the Highway Now THAT would be something to see. A Segway traveling at 60-70 mph would be quite interesting to see.
There is an updating tool for free. There is also one that cots, but lets you manage updates remotely and has them automatically done. I'll just stick with the first though, as I'm broke.
Please tell me that you copied and pasted from somewhere so that you didn't have to type all of that.
Please.
If I remember correctly each entrance that was built in this fashion was named eye of a needle. Though you could be right, either way, we know what was intended and we apply it to ourselves. Isn't that the purpose of this whole thing?
Also, just to add, isn't it also where they would have to remove all goods from off of the camel so that it would fit. That makes it teach the lesson extremely well when saying that the rich man would have a harder time than a camel going through "eye of a needle."
There are some translation errors, which is perfectly understandable considering the length of the book, but that isn't one of them.
I understand your point. Evidance won't change what is happening either way. I would like to see if sharing has hurt or helped the industry.
Personally, I don't copy music or video using p2p technology. I download large ISO files to burn cd's of my favorite distro of linux. I think that the parent of your post was making the point that they are attacking something that isn't hurting them at all. Its like me going after the speeders to try and reduce the armed robberies in a city. They may both be crimes, but one is doing much more damage.
This post is referring more to p2p, but I think it applies in many differant situations, including this one.
I did reword the other post, but I felt that it never hurts to say it again. (in this case anyway... not saying I'm a redundant poster or anything.)
The military gets a lot of flak from people. I do agree, the other post was very similar. How could I have written it differantly?
My father was in the military so I have a great respect for the military and the amount of combined devotion that has been given to keep me safe here at home. I'm sure many others have that same respect. Even if it has been said by one person, it hasn't been said enough.
I thank you for your service as well. It is because of you and people like you that we can enjoy our freedom today. I wish you the best.
You forgot the AHHHHH! as his ship bursts into flames and disintegrates.
Good question. Maybe Google made the extension? I'll go read the article now.
It this doesn't bother me at all. It was meant as a joke (see the anonymous parent.)
On a more serious note: The icons can be a bit misleading sometimes and I have to guess what they mean, but they do stick with me after I learn what they mean.
Yeah, that was Doom II. What a great game! I loved modding it. I remember getting one of those wad file editors and designing levels with all sorts of crazy stuff. Either way, for its time, the game was pretty scarey. I was hoping that this would have the same thing. I enjoy having a good scare. I guess once I get a system that runs it I'll finally know.
Free doesn't equal bad. In fact, I have made music (I was no good at it) and gave it to friends who copied it and did the same. Nothing is wrong with that. The problem is this... I'm sure that the music industry will say that P2P is illegal, which it isn't. I use it all the time to grab large ISO files. They will say that sharing multimedia is illegal, which it isn't, as long as someone has permission. What I mean to say is that they will teach what they want people to know, not what is entirely correct.
I don't reallly like windows because it has cost me a lot of time/money. I also have stopped using it, although i'm sure tha many here use MS, sometimes because they dual boot, sometimes because they are at work or in some other situation. Here in the dominican republic, everyone uses internet centers to connect to the internet, and that means we usually have to use windows (although I am starting to carry MandrakeMove around so that I can use linux even in internet centers.)
I agree. However, if I am earning enough, I don't think that I should go out and be super picky about everything just to earn even more. I really enjoy working on computers, and for being a computer guy, I don't earn very much. I earned enough to get by though, so I was happy making other people happy. I'm not really an artist, but it's kinda, sorta connected in a weird way.
Man. I think your link is broken. I was wanting to try that out, seeing as I have a p3 w/ 196 mb RAM and a voodoo 5. THe doom3byemail would have been what I needed.
:-( I was wanting to get the 6000 series just to say that I had a quad processor graphics card.
On a side note: You know, it wasn't all that long ago when the voodoo 5 was a decent card... and then 3dfx died.
Yes, this was meant to be funny, but I guess you already know that.
I'm not. I usually use something like bittorrent and/or mutella to download ISO images. That appears to be legal (as long as the owners of the ISO files allow it.) Stereotypes are usually wrong.
A lot of companies now-a-days seem to have problems with letting out source code. The market has been moving to support services and away from actual software production except for the game market, so letting out the source code should become easier and easier as time passes. Also, as many have already mentioned, since the cd will be bought by a few and then mirrored all over the internet (which the GPL will allow) maybe we will all be able to download it for free anyway. I doubt that the company will be able to really make and profit off of this not-so-intelligent move.
I found another OS that has built in unix support (mostly). The rest of it is also open, which means that it is running fully on OSS.
People can choose what they want, but I think I'll stick with the one w/ more manhours/experiance in good coding.
It's not that MS is bad/evil/whatever, its just that linux isn't.
Now the question is, who would we go to if we wanted to see this idea implemented. I don't know nearly enough to start something like this. The only work I could do would be to translate, and that's it. Are their any projects that you know of where I could submit this idea. It would be really good in a lab environment like you said. This could also branch between schools, and allow technology (especially open source stuff) to be shared between schools. It would add another level of inovation is schools. I would like to see school copying the best of other schools ideas. Any ideas?
:-) Thanks for the reminder.
I hope you have some clean laundry... I should probably take care of mine sometime.
Anyone that studies the Bible would know that it isn't self contradicting. I don't mean to argue with you, but you should realize that the bible has been translated and in the translation, many things have been unfortunatly lost (or changed). So as many things appear to be contradicting, if you look at how they may have been in original context, it isn't confusing at all. But, just to make sure, God has given us even other ways of knowing the truth (a 100 percent dependance on the bible for knowledge isn't how to know the truth of all things.) God is smarter though and still gets the truth through to some and the others usually reject it, but that's how life goes.
I agree with you though, it is sad what some people do in tha name of God or the name of Jesus Christ. Something that I have found out though has been that they don't really believe in what they do. They do it because they have found an excuse that they can pull from. It would be better to say that when people believe that they have a valid excuse they can... (put whatever action here.)
I almost agree completely with your post. I like how you mentioned that the bible doesn't contain everything. I would assume then that you would agree with me when I say that there could very easily be more scripture that we haven't yet recieved. I believe God is a god of order and that he wouldn't let us stay confused. That would mean that we should be expecting/ looking for more scripture to clarify. What's your opinion on this?
You know... this is kinda changing the topic on this thread, but would it be possible to make a Linux Distro that would install itself via p2p (somthing like bittorrent) on an internal network? I think that would be neat if a server could be set up and then if software fails, you through in a boot cd, it boots up, and installs all of the packages from a p2p server. It wouldn't work all that well in a world scale, but if the server was inside the network, it would be great, although ftp would probably suffice. I think that could be useful in a school environment. (Coming from the overworked, underpaid, find that cd now, high school tech standpoint.) It is just another way of doing the same thing, except bittorrent would help when installing something like 150 machines at once.
Anyways... trying to get remotely on topic again. Yeah, the napster as insurance isn't going to change anything. I could picture students just doing there own thing and skipping the whole napster thing. If they are trying to save bandwidth, it would be best to just set up a nice proxy server that caches (almost) everything and then open up ports or turn off throttling at appropriate times. There is way too much involved in trying to control this, there just has to be some way to let legit users still use it while being able to catch illegit users. It would be an interesting study to see what kind of traffic changes occur because of this. Of course, none will probably be done and so the effectiveness won't ever be seen or realized (if there is a change or not). Oh well... Thanks for the discussion. (And yes, discussoin of principles is great)
No offense taken. We are here to share ideas. As far as I understand (please correct me if I am mistaken) I have the right to distribute my material in the manner that I wish. This pertains to e-books, music, whatever. If I am wanting to share via p2p, but I can't (because of "squash the minority" strategy), that would be infringement upon my rights.
I don't know the exact costs on things, but if the napster idea is taken, it could very possibly be more expensive than seperating the legit from illegit users.
I do agree though, p2p isn't very useful in a high school environment. It would be best used as a research tool for college level stuff. (Students searching for common papers that are open to the public, or setting an autoget on a topic so when they get back from lunch it has a bunch of material for them.)
I agree with you. I think it even stretches farther than that. Even in public high schools, our tax money is mis-used. Traffic shaping is good, or putting up rules and regulations with enforcement works better. Traffic shaping would kill off even the legit sharers. I use p2p all the time for moving ISO's or finding differant files for my linux machine. It bugs me to no end when my rights are infringed to target a larger group. They should keep good enough track of their own network that they can find the offenders and enforce rules. Throwing more money at the problem won't solve it.
Thanks for the correction. So the whole spanish thing is getting to me. (I haven't really spoken english in a few years.)
It still was nice that it blocked the pop-up ad. That has to be one of the best features out there. It simply blocks them but allows a way to show the good pop-ups. Just with that feature, you could overtake the IE market...
We just have to make sure that they can spell better than me.