Never thought about it before, but I'd think the rules of evolution just get that much more complicated once a species becomes sentient. Only the mutations that can comprehend something better than others to think more of the "endgame" rules rather than only paying attention to the current three month outlook.
If anyone survives our current endgame, it's going to be the peaceful ones out in the stranger corners of the earth, far from our bombs and our biological weapons, that have only the slightly improved chance of surviving the coming singularity....and the meek shall inherit the Earth. They are the priests, of the temple of Syrinx.
Even as a professional C# programmer, I'll be going the Android route. Didn't really want to, but if they are going to get all Applesaucy then they can GTFO.
Wow, I am so impressed! You are truly a SupremoMan! You are going to save the world with your re-usable plastic bag. (This is really only a long-term strategy to eventually charge money for all bags at the store.) It takes nearly no petroleum to make a bag. The emissions from the truck that delivered the bags are far worse than people using the actual bags.
At first it's all good - we have robots doing everything for us and no need for money for basic necessities.
After a while, the dumbing-down begins... After people have gotten used to robots literally wiping their asses for them their entire life, complacency will set in, the only quest will be for more entertainment and the bliss of ignorance, leading eventually to converting the race to mindless, caged animals. Pets of the robots that the people themselves once built.
This will continue until the day comes when some event occurs that is outside the scope of the machine consciousness, leading eventually to the end of this wave of civilization. A few humans will escape their caged lifestyles (Not by choice, but pure survival instinct) and a new cycle will begin, once again starting from primitive caveman life and reaching for the stars until they are reached and lost again. The only good thing is that it's been said that each age of man usually surpasses the previous age, reaching a bit higher enlightenment before once again crashing down like storm waves beating on a rocky cliff; eventually the waves win.
There's not enough scientific data on this subject????
1. Nicotine - All kinds of separate medical studies on the effects of it to get FDA approval for the nicotine gums, nicotine patches, even an FDA approved electronic cigarette. It's very lethal in pure doses, but in eCigs it is extremely diluted so that you get about the same amount of nicotine per drag as you would from a lit cigarette. It can still cause vein and heart issues but at pretty much the same risk as coffee (caffeine). But the IMPORTANT thing here is that nicotine by itself does not cause cancer!
2. Propylene Glycol - Over a century of data on spraying large amounts of it on crowds of people in an enclosed area. You probably know it better by it's more common description: The stuff that comes out of fog machines at concerts! Plus lots of medical studies that show it's even got some beneficial properties when breathed. Nothing showing any cancer effect. This is around 99% of what you're breathing in when vaping. The rest is the nicotine extract and a tiny amount of FDA approved flavoring agents.
If you're going to try to trash on the things, at least get your basic facts straight first.
Want some actual scientific ammo to argue with? Here's the two things as a daily vaper for several months (and a 25 year smoker before that) that I'd like to see more research on:
1. I'm curious about the effect of the wicking material in the eCig nicotine cartridge as it gets heated while the atomizer heats up to boil the liquid. I'm not sure what it's made of, but looks like nylon. At high enough temperatures, nylon will let off some nasty toxins. I don't know if that means burning temperature or just boiling temperature? It's not getting melted or shrinking, so it probably isn't breaking down, but it's something I'd like to know for sure.
2. Propylene Glycol applied to skin makes it much more permeable to other chemicals and is used for dermal medicine delivery (Probably even in nicotine patches, but I don't know what they use.) because of that. Does that have some effect on the lungs, or are lungs already permeable enough and it won't have much effect? (Or even better, does breathing PG also make your lungs more permeable to oxygen? Which could also have a beneficial effect.
eCigs have about 1/1000th the health risk of a normal cigarette. Somehow moving society forward to a far less harmful way to maintain a nicotine addiction is a bad thing? Sure, addiction is bad, but dying of cancer is a lot worse. This is a way to significantly avoid cancer. It's completely antithetical to the ALA's stated purpose to be against these.
I think the ALA is just pissed cause they aren't going to be able to continue their free ride where they are funded by a cut of cigarette taxes. Of course they are against that, as they are becoming irrelevant.
It's like the RIAA/MPAA witch hunt, only instead of trying to mess with people rights and freedom, they are trying to take away people's lives. Even worse.
Lets face it, eCigs are very disruptive technology - the old way is breathing in burning smoke with all kinds of carcinogens (and lots of taxes on it since it's truly dangerous), the new way is inhaling vaporized nicotine (Not much of an excuse for a sin tax on a nearly safe product.) and all the tax-funded entities aren't going to get their cut, so of course they are against it.
It's safer, by far, so let's ban it. That makes sense.
eCigs have the potential to save millions from the agonizing death of lung cancer, this should be the key point and the reason society should back eCigs wholeheartedly. My grandparents might still be alive if this product existed back in the day.
I thought the ALA and other anti-smoking outfits had a purpose - trying to keep people from using a highly dangerous product. This just makes me completely disrespect them.
Fully dumb - for every day they fight these things, that's another thousand people who will get cancer.
Are eCigs completely safe? No, they are not, but they are around three orders of magnitude safer than real cigarettes, so that should be the deciding factor.
Ban tobacco smoking, no problem now, there's a better alternative.
Banning something with a dangerosity level on the level of coffee is just asinine and futile.
Just more money-grubbing pigs, ignore them and help millions avoid cancer.
What? Erasing is instantaneous because the filesystem is encrypted?
That makes no sense, unless it needs to decrypt the data before it erases it (Which would slow things down, not speed them up), I don't think that the data being encrypted has anything to do with speed.
Enough of this AppHole bullshit. This site's about Linux and open source, not closed-source proprietary junk.
If this is truly "News for Nerds" then where was yesterday's announcement that Visual Studio 2010 was released? Not a mention, but we got our daily dose of Applesauce. Oooh boy, another high-dollar closed laptop.
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Never thought about it before, but I'd think the rules of evolution just get that much more complicated once a species becomes sentient. Only the mutations that can comprehend something better than others to think more of the "endgame" rules rather than only paying attention to the current three month outlook.
If anyone survives our current endgame, it's going to be the peaceful ones out in the stranger corners of the earth, far from our bombs and our biological weapons, that have only the slightly improved chance of surviving the coming singularity. ...and the meek shall inherit the Earth. They are the priests, of the temple of Syrinx.
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Oh now dammit. This is retarded.
Even as a professional C# programmer, I'll be going the Android route. Didn't really want to, but if they are going to get all Applesaucy then they can GTFO.
If you want to talk about a waste of time - try reading some book that starts off with a bunch of phones falling out of the sky!
Just kidding - I loved it, completely bizaare. It's in my "read it again every few years" pile next to Ringworld, HHGG, and other great books.
Aspirin is a COX inhibitor? Did someone give my cable modem some aspirin?
It's on like Ndamakong!! (Suh)
Amen! Where's my mod points when I need them?
Yes, I also think that the "someone hit B instead of M" story is in fact: BM
Flamebait? I'd call that Insightful.
Wow, I am so impressed! You are truly a SupremoMan! You are going to save the world with your re-usable plastic bag. (This is really only a long-term strategy to eventually charge money for all bags at the store.) It takes nearly no petroleum to make a bag. The emissions from the truck that delivered the bags are far worse than people using the actual bags.
You're acting like a Tyre-ant.
That was back before Apple took the crown for "Most Evil Company".
Strange to see Apple making even Microsoft look like the nicer company these days.
No, read it again, more slowly this time... Not even the point I was making.
There would be no possible event that would destroy the humans that wouldn't have destroyed the dinosaurs, either.
The "Analog Hole" of humankind will always beat out the regimented thought processes of a machine.
I figure they must have meant "Think Duplicate", not "Think Different"
We do, for a while (as a society).
At first it's all good - we have robots doing everything for us and no need for money for basic necessities.
After a while, the dumbing-down begins... After people have gotten used to robots literally wiping their asses for them their entire life, complacency will set in, the only quest will be for more entertainment and the bliss of ignorance, leading eventually to converting the race to mindless, caged animals. Pets of the robots that the people themselves once built.
This will continue until the day comes when some event occurs that is outside the scope of the machine consciousness, leading eventually to the end of this wave of civilization. A few humans will escape their caged lifestyles (Not by choice, but pure survival instinct) and a new cycle will begin, once again starting from primitive caveman life and reaching for the stars until they are reached and lost again. The only good thing is that it's been said that each age of man usually surpasses the previous age, reaching a bit higher enlightenment before once again crashing down like storm waves beating on a rocky cliff; eventually the waves win.
Amen my brothers!
The only way to win is not to play their game.
There's not enough scientific data on this subject????
1. Nicotine - All kinds of separate medical studies on the effects of it to get FDA approval for the nicotine gums, nicotine patches, even an FDA approved electronic cigarette. It's very lethal in pure doses, but in eCigs it is extremely diluted so that you get about the same amount of nicotine per drag as you would from a lit cigarette. It can still cause vein and heart issues but at pretty much the same risk as coffee (caffeine). But the IMPORTANT thing here is that nicotine by itself does not cause cancer!
2. Propylene Glycol - Over a century of data on spraying large amounts of it on crowds of people in an enclosed area. You probably know it better by it's more common description: The stuff that comes out of fog machines at concerts! Plus lots of medical studies that show it's even got some beneficial properties when breathed. Nothing showing any cancer effect. This is around 99% of what you're breathing in when vaping. The rest is the nicotine extract and a tiny amount of FDA approved flavoring agents.
If you're going to try to trash on the things, at least get your basic facts straight first.
Want some actual scientific ammo to argue with? Here's the two things as a daily vaper for several months (and a 25 year smoker before that) that I'd like to see more research on:
1. I'm curious about the effect of the wicking material in the eCig nicotine cartridge as it gets heated while the atomizer heats up to boil the liquid. I'm not sure what it's made of, but looks like nylon. At high enough temperatures, nylon will let off some nasty toxins. I don't know if that means burning temperature or just boiling temperature? It's not getting melted or shrinking, so it probably isn't breaking down, but it's something I'd like to know for sure.
2. Propylene Glycol applied to skin makes it much more permeable to other chemicals and is used for dermal medicine delivery (Probably even in nicotine patches, but I don't know what they use.) because of that. Does that have some effect on the lungs, or are lungs already permeable enough and it won't have much effect? (Or even better, does breathing PG also make your lungs more permeable to oxygen? Which could also have a beneficial effect.
Just don't spout nonsense next time. :)
eCigs have about 1/1000th the health risk of a normal cigarette. Somehow moving society forward to a far less harmful way to maintain a nicotine addiction is a bad thing? Sure, addiction is bad, but dying of cancer is a lot worse. This is a way to significantly avoid cancer. It's completely antithetical to the ALA's stated purpose to be against these.
I think the ALA is just pissed cause they aren't going to be able to continue their free ride where they are funded by a cut of cigarette taxes. Of course they are against that, as they are becoming irrelevant.
It's like the RIAA/MPAA witch hunt, only instead of trying to mess with people rights and freedom, they are trying to take away people's lives. Even worse.
Lets face it, eCigs are very disruptive technology - the old way is breathing in burning smoke with all kinds of carcinogens (and lots of taxes on it since it's truly dangerous), the new way is inhaling vaporized nicotine (Not much of an excuse for a sin tax on a nearly safe product.) and all the tax-funded entities aren't going to get their cut, so of course they are against it.
It's safer, by far, so let's ban it. That makes sense.
eCigs have the potential to save millions from the agonizing death of lung cancer, this should be the key point and the reason society should back eCigs wholeheartedly. My grandparents might still be alive if this product existed back in the day.
I thought the ALA and other anti-smoking outfits had a purpose - trying to keep people from using a highly dangerous product. This just makes me completely disrespect them.
Fully dumb - for every day they fight these things, that's another thousand people who will get cancer.
Are eCigs completely safe? No, they are not, but they are around three orders of magnitude safer than real cigarettes, so that should be the deciding factor.
Ban tobacco smoking, no problem now, there's a better alternative.
Banning something with a dangerosity level on the level of coffee is just asinine and futile.
Just more money-grubbing pigs, ignore them and help millions avoid cancer.
What? You can't even smell the vapor that comes out.
Or do you mean you stuck your nose in the nicotine fluid chamber?
I did, but I was making two points in one post. I'll number them next time for your comfort. :)
You sound young
Shill for Apple much? Getting a kick-back?
What? Erasing is instantaneous because the filesystem is encrypted?
That makes no sense, unless it needs to decrypt the data before it erases it (Which would slow things down, not speed them up), I don't think that the data being encrypted has anything to do with speed.
Enough of this AppHole bullshit. This site's about Linux and open source, not closed-source proprietary junk.
If this is truly "News for Nerds" then where was yesterday's announcement that Visual Studio 2010 was released? Not a mention, but we got our daily dose of Applesauce. Oooh boy, another high-dollar closed laptop.
Did Apple buy Slashdot?
I didn't know that was a bacterial virus, I thought it was a plant. Who knew? Wow!