Now I will be able to truly believe that chicks in chats I try to pick up are really chicks.
But seriously. With all those money resources being poured into hiding symptoms (perverts in chat rooms, drugs in schools, shool rapes, students with guns, G. Weenie Bush as a president, et cera) one just wonders what could be archieved by simply pouring a bit of it to relief the tension in society, by like, just an example, ensuring that the same childrens are feeling ok at school and home instead of reaching out for help from nicely talking chatters in "SexTonigt" class of chat rooms.
Sick, sick world. And I would except more common sense from Verisign, but then again, world changes.
Wise, really wise. Post a link on/. frontpage to order free stuff.
I just wonder - is it for password harvesting, cd's will be shipped COD or this is AOL in disguise.
Well, at least a few cd pressing plants will be quite busy now for a year. That's for sure. (unless they plan to burn those discs using a beofulf cluster of cd writers)
...and CTO's get fired when linux starts to show all of it's problems: "fuck it, this bug is unimportant", "who cares about optimisations anyway", "what do you mean - thread synchronization?".
In my eyes IBM offers chip without an os. Linux is far, oh so far, from proper unix. Just as far as averange linux fan from fucking a real girl;D
Geee... Since when USA represents the whole western world as a whole. There is quite a bit of europe too, you know. And Australia, I guess, so can be counted in the western world.
Take it easy. You, as a nation, got your glimpse and got too lazy to hold it. It's no good to blame everyone around (including evil corporations, terorists or file sharers) for your mistakes.
It's just the way history happens. Start getting used to flats instead of houses or salaries within sane range. Cheers;D
Of course client-server can be good and efficient if used apropriately. Like in, doh, server-client envorement.
There is no reason why I would like to keep GUI with single, artifical "socketed" hw interface on my machine. And while yes, it can be done properly, sorry, X11 doesn't. Not to mention the configuration...
"X11 is good, doh I can't run it even on my (insert xxx here)" - this is the point that gives most of linux blindfolds away.
Aaah,/.. Where religion get's presented as common sense.
No. I don't have a basement at hand. Unfourtonately. I don't play games.
I even have work. Developing medium sized enterprise systems. Also I know a few buzzwords, like j2ee or corba. And I use solaris or freeBSD (for my own projects).
It doesn't changes anything, tought. Linux still persists as infectious religion like yehovians or adventists of 7th day. With just the same ignorance about real problems that affects their __favorite__ operating system.
-- What good is GOBS of apps if 99% of them have unusable interface and/or can't exchange a shit between themselves.
-- ^C & ^V in KDE anyone?
-- (in a tune of I like chinese: "I like X11") Mac did it right, beos did it marvelously, hell, even Microsoft did it acceptably. Linux persists on wastefull server-client memory hog for their GUI needs.
What good would ultimate GoodYear 300+ MPH tires would do on your Citroen XM?
(okay, I don't care bout anymore. Let it be just another flamebait. Nobody here even dares to admit that linux is a big, cruel joke about operating systems and unix in particular...)
And? What, particulary, have they archieved? Or, rather, who the fuck is going to use something like this.
Here is a subtle message for all unix addicts out there, listen carefully, I'll try to whisper: NETWORKED CLIENTS ARE NO MORE, NETWORKED CLIENTS ARE NO MORE, NETWORKED CLIENTS ARE NO MORE.
What all those developers urgently need is someone who has a clue what users are looking for. Like, for instance, there is no wonder they crammed their tiny/whiny kde in a 40kb/sec modem connection. After all, X11 underlying model already does it, regardless of what machine you are using - dual cpu Athlon 64 or i486SX.
What I would call an archievement would be a KDE GUI that wouldn't feel like being VLC'ed over 40kb/s modem connection on my p4-2.8/512/MatroxG400DH desktop.
I believe it is a slightly different kind of "securing" he talks about. Let me tell you a story:
I live in Latvia and constantly use internet banking services. Every customer-oriented bank here has a web interface where we can overview our accounts, shares, investements, debts, credits, fill different forms online, request new features, etc, etc, etc. A proper virtual bank.
A colleague from USA came to work with us and company opened an local account for him as well. And now the interesting part: after working in quite high profile company in USA as a security advisor (or smth like that) he simply couldn't grasp how it comes that we, here, in exCommie state, a developing, third world with averange salary of 2500 usd per year, could have so secure, efficient and usable internet banking services. From what he told me, he was used to authenticate with his card number and pin on http:// site in his american bank.
The point: Our banks started to develop their internet banking solutions (and infrastructure in general) when technology was quite mature and security implications was already well known and easy to avoid. Hell, nobody here even understands why you should use cheques, if you can quickly get in closest internet cafe, with computers usually ridden with spyware and keyloggers and totally securely, withing 10 seconds, transfer any amount to whom you please.
Hovever the pioneers took all the burden to find out the problems the hard way and now simply cannot afford to change their insecure, obselte and dangerous web interfaces to something at least half as secure and efficient as we have here. It would be too much of an investement.
And here comes the moral: Those 10 years are the time Microsoft will require to move most of their applications and operating system to the point where any security starts to become a possibility. Or, we will see a 1995/6 year story with mac. They dumped their macOS as FUBAR and aciquired NeXT to gain a necessary expertise to create a better os for their needs.
Anyway - who needs Microsoft. MacOSX is reasonably secure, easy to use and damn sexy today. And for a similar performance costs about the same as that dual cpu athlon 64 you are thinking to buy;D
Believe me, it is not that hard to believe. Take a look at the architecture of typical Microsoft application. It's not the question of what are the requirements for data processing capabilities or cut-paste functionality - a properly designed application will not see a difference between 1x or 1'000'000x amount of data (except for processing power required). It is the design they use and where they choose (or are forced to) connect any particular functionality that makes their applications so damn hard to maintain.
Any application can be easly made customizable and maintainable. Unfourtonately for microsoft this would mean a total revrite of most of their applications to remove uncountable legacy layers or obselte software architecture decisions.
okay, okay, so they are incompetent enought to be incapable to copy MacOs HFS w/ it's relations model and quickly hack something similar to IFS?
Plueeze, ok, Microsoft employs some of the brightest minds in the world, but something here is totally wrong. Or maybe marketing departament simply is incapable to explain required functionality to programmers:D
Dream on. Ok, Microsoft sucks, but why, oh, why people here even imagines that Linux with it's nonexistent GUI, broken unix capabilities and mythical application compatibility can even make microsoft raise an eyebrow.
It's different in the server world, but longhorn isn't about servers, at least yet.
And no, it's not MacOSX too. My guess is that Microsoft feels threatened that if they will break mandatory upgrade cycle every two or three years the cash flow will start to threaten status of the company. Sure, they have a gigs of cash in bank, but most of it isn't quite puttable on table, and they do have a lot of expenses.
You must be joking. Looking how linux is sucessfully performing every possible action to fuck itself up even more (and I'm not talking about GUI's here, its not even worth mentioning) almost half of my friends that used to use linux on their machines now have replaced it with BSD. Why? Because it simply works, it has two variants that have good documentation, so, if anything breaks, you really have a chance to use information found online (instead of looking at n solutions for n distros), no one asks them WHY they ARE SUCH A DUMB LAMERS to use that particular distro not THE ONE AND ONLY linux distro by some linux weenie.
Mark my words. BSD IS NOT dying. And in fact the fact that linux constantly fails to create anything but promises and rantings throught its user base, it silently grows and grows.
The fact that every news outlet isn't ranting about BSD doesn't means that it has fallen into oblivion. Smart kids know about that and are really happy 'bout that.
In fact there are NO precautations. Surveilance network does exactly that - monitors. And any suicidal bomber will be blown long ago when dispatched security officers will arrive on scene.
Of course, of course, there are still plainclothes security guards, a lot of police, etc, but - there was absolutely no reason to install such massive camera base because it gives NOTHING. Especially if the security precautations are realy intented to prevent terorist attacks, where a normal guy walking with hotdog and bootle of beer can suddenly turn into suicidal bomber just by taking his jacket off (and that's optional too).
I wouldn't mind to be killed by some terorist or local fuckup, if this has to happen. But instead I get a lot of annoyance, security that question me what color my underpants is and by fearing the "TERRORISTS" give them a perfect cover for any fuckups they will make.
If only it wasn't Real Networks. You know, the company with business ethics even below Microsoft. With spy/ad and malware forcefully installed on your PC forcing some "partners" to offer their media services only in realmedia formats.
I remember that at one time they had damn usable player. Then it became a memory hog. Then it became memory and CPU hog. At the time when I saw a popup offering some stupid girlie artists supersingle download I had enough and had just plain ignored any RM offering on the web since.
But regarding to apple trying to protect their fairytale copy protection scheme - whatever will be, will be. I'm planning to buy an iPod (to complement my 12" iBook) in next month and frankly I can't care less about interoperability with third party offerings.
Apple offers iTunes, they pretend to make money in it and if I can choose I choose an IT world dominated by Apple instead of Microsoft or Linux. And I will stick to this point unless something drastical will happen - like an usable linux desktop application or bugfree microsoft release.
Both are rather unlikely events within next decade...
And as per this case - break the guts out of those Real Media guys. I don't want to think that RealMedia will have ANY connection or compatibility with my iPod. Let them rot in the world where they belong - Win32 crashspace.
Hmm, let's see...
Resoldering a few northbridges on early abit mobos (430 series) - I had access to writen off equipement and made pretty neat little money reselling them afterwards.
Windows NT 4 doesn't mind if you hotswap pci cards - and if you restart according devices it properly operates adaptec scsi cards and sound blaster (others not tested).
Ide HDD's can be easly swapped under linux (rescan ide buses).
Also - always check the fans in computer you prepare for your boss. I found that fan on pentium 233MMX had somehow unconnected in transit when he started to complain about some strange crashes. I bet - the cpusocket's plastics had melted about 1" downwards.
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You really should have added "Ducks!" after third item ;D
Now I will be able to truly believe that chicks in chats I try to pick up are really chicks.
But seriously. With all those money resources being poured into hiding symptoms (perverts in chat rooms, drugs in schools, shool rapes, students with guns, G. Weenie Bush as a president, et cera) one just wonders what could be archieved by simply pouring a bit of it to relief the tension in society, by like, just an example, ensuring that the same childrens are feeling ok at school and home instead of reaching out for help from nicely talking chatters in "SexTonigt" class of chat rooms.
Sick, sick world. And I would except more common sense from Verisign, but then again, world changes.
Wise, really wise. Post a link on /. frontpage to order free stuff.
I just wonder - is it for password harvesting, cd's will be shipped COD or this is AOL in disguise.
Well, at least a few cd pressing plants will be quite busy now for a year. That's for sure. (unless they plan to burn those discs using a beofulf cluster of cd writers)
...and CTO's get fired when linux starts to show all of it's problems: "fuck it, this bug is unimportant", "who cares about optimisations anyway", "what do you mean - thread synchronization?".
;D
In my eyes IBM offers chip without an os. Linux is far, oh so far, from proper unix. Just as far as averange linux fan from fucking a real girl
Geee... Since when USA represents the whole western world as a whole. There is quite a bit of europe too, you know. And Australia, I guess, so can be counted in the western world.
;D
Take it easy. You, as a nation, got your glimpse and got too lazy to hold it. It's no good to blame everyone around (including evil corporations, terorists or file sharers) for your mistakes.
It's just the way history happens. Start getting used to flats instead of houses or salaries within sane range. Cheers
See, if the gameplay would be just like configuring linux...
;D don't you.
I guess you see the pattern
Dear, oh dear...
/.. Where religion get's presented as common sense.
Of course client-server can be good and efficient if used apropriately. Like in, doh, server-client envorement.
There is no reason why I would like to keep GUI with single, artifical "socketed" hw interface on my machine. And while yes, it can be done properly, sorry, X11 doesn't. Not to mention the configuration...
"X11 is good, doh I can't run it even on my (insert xxx here)" - this is the point that gives most of linux blindfolds away.
Aaah,
No. I don't have a basement at hand. Unfourtonately.
I don't play games.
I even have work. Developing medium sized enterprise systems. Also I know a few buzzwords, like j2ee or corba. And I use solaris or freeBSD (for my own projects).
It doesn't changes anything, tought. Linux still persists as infectious religion like yehovians or adventists of 7th day. With just the same ignorance about real problems that affects their __favorite__ operating system.
-- What good is GOBS of apps if 99% of them have unusable interface and/or can't exchange a shit between themselves.
-- ^C & ^V in KDE anyone?
-- (in a tune of I like chinese: "I like X11") Mac did it right, beos did it marvelously, hell, even Microsoft did it acceptably. Linux persists on wastefull server-client memory hog for their GUI needs.
-- Inconsistent aps, anyone?
Shall I keep on?
__DECENT__ X drivers?
Mwahahahahaaaaa! Good one.
What good would ultimate GoodYear 300+ MPH tires would do on your Citroen XM?
(okay, I don't care bout anymore. Let it be just another flamebait. Nobody here even dares to admit that linux is a big, cruel joke about operating systems and unix in particular...)
Are you trying to tell me it has better user action response over KDE when I'm sitting at my desktop?
And? What, particulary, have they archieved? Or, rather, who the fuck is going to use something like this.
Here is a subtle message for all unix addicts out there, listen carefully, I'll try to whisper: NETWORKED CLIENTS ARE NO MORE, NETWORKED CLIENTS ARE NO MORE, NETWORKED CLIENTS ARE NO MORE.
What all those developers urgently need is someone who has a clue what users are looking for. Like, for instance, there is no wonder they crammed their tiny/whiny kde in a 40kb/sec modem connection. After all, X11 underlying model already does it, regardless of what machine you are using - dual cpu Athlon 64 or i486SX.
What I would call an archievement would be a KDE GUI that wouldn't feel like being VLC'ed over 40kb/s modem connection on my p4-2.8/512/MatroxG400DH desktop.
I'm QUITE sure that the quality and panel's are different. Not to mention the fact that monitor comes in slick and actually beautifull case.
This is plain boring. And from the design POW - failure. Look at that white space on front...
Linux will never be. There will be just another FreeBSD fork with proper graphics and useable software.
I believe it is a slightly different kind of "securing" he talks about. Let me tell you a story:
;D
I live in Latvia and constantly use internet banking services. Every customer-oriented bank here has a web interface where we can overview our accounts, shares, investements, debts, credits, fill different forms online, request new features, etc, etc, etc. A proper virtual bank.
A colleague from USA came to work with us and company opened an local account for him as well. And now the interesting part: after working in quite high profile company in USA as a security advisor (or smth like that) he simply couldn't grasp how it comes that we, here, in exCommie state, a developing, third world with averange salary of 2500 usd per year, could have so secure, efficient and usable internet banking services. From what he told me, he was used to authenticate with his card number and pin on http:// site in his american bank.
The point: Our banks started to develop their internet banking solutions (and infrastructure in general) when technology was quite mature and security implications was already well known and easy to avoid. Hell, nobody here even understands why you should use cheques, if you can quickly get in closest internet cafe, with computers usually ridden with spyware and keyloggers and totally securely, withing 10 seconds, transfer any amount to whom you please.
Hovever the pioneers took all the burden to find out the problems the hard way and now simply cannot afford to change their insecure, obselte and dangerous web interfaces to something at least half as secure and efficient as we have here. It would be too much of an investement.
And here comes the moral: Those 10 years are the time Microsoft will require to move most of their applications and operating system to the point where any security starts to become a possibility. Or, we will see a 1995/6 year story with mac. They dumped their macOS as FUBAR and aciquired NeXT to gain a necessary expertise to create a better os for their needs.
Anyway - who needs Microsoft. MacOSX is reasonably secure, easy to use and damn sexy today. And for a similar performance costs about the same as that dual cpu athlon 64 you are thinking to buy
Believe me, it is not that hard to believe. Take a look at the architecture of typical Microsoft application. It's not the question of what are the requirements for data processing capabilities or cut-paste functionality - a properly designed application will not see a difference between 1x or 1'000'000x amount of data (except for processing power required). It is the design they use and where they choose (or are forced to) connect any particular functionality that makes their applications so damn hard to maintain. Any application can be easly made customizable and maintainable. Unfourtonately for microsoft this would mean a total revrite of most of their applications to remove uncountable legacy layers or obselte software architecture decisions.
okay, okay, so they are incompetent enought to be incapable to copy MacOs HFS w/ it's relations model and quickly hack something similar to IFS?
:D
Plueeze, ok, Microsoft employs some of the brightest minds in the world, but something here is totally wrong. Or maybe marketing departament simply is incapable to explain required functionality to programmers
Dream on. Ok, Microsoft sucks, but why, oh, why people here even imagines that Linux with it's nonexistent GUI, broken unix capabilities and mythical application compatibility can even make microsoft raise an eyebrow.
It's different in the server world, but longhorn isn't about servers, at least yet.
And no, it's not MacOSX too. My guess is that Microsoft feels threatened that if they will break mandatory upgrade cycle every two or three years the cash flow will start to threaten status of the company. Sure, they have a gigs of cash in bank, but most of it isn't quite puttable on table, and they do have a lot of expenses.
You must be joking. Looking how linux is sucessfully performing every possible action to fuck itself up even more (and I'm not talking about GUI's here, its not even worth mentioning) almost half of my friends that used to use linux on their machines now have replaced it with BSD.
Why? Because it simply works, it has two variants that have good documentation, so, if anything breaks, you really have a chance to use information found online (instead of looking at n solutions for n distros), no one asks them WHY they ARE SUCH A DUMB LAMERS to use that particular distro not THE ONE AND ONLY linux distro by some linux weenie.
Mark my words. BSD IS NOT dying. And in fact the fact that linux constantly fails to create anything but promises and rantings throught its user base, it silently grows and grows.
The fact that every news outlet isn't ranting about BSD doesn't means that it has fallen into oblivion. Smart kids know about that and are really happy 'bout that.
They didn't give you access to the webcasts from female toilets in greece?
In fact there are NO precautations. Surveilance network does exactly that - monitors. And any suicidal bomber will be blown long ago when dispatched security officers will arrive on scene.
Of course, of course, there are still plainclothes security guards, a lot of police, etc, but - there was absolutely no reason to install such massive camera base because it gives NOTHING. Especially if the security precautations are realy intented to prevent terorist attacks, where a normal guy walking with hotdog and bootle of beer can suddenly turn into suicidal bomber just by taking his jacket off (and that's optional too).
You definetly have no principles whatsoever.
I wouldn't mind to be killed by some terorist or local fuckup, if this has to happen. But instead I get a lot of annoyance, security that question me what color my underpants is and by fearing the "TERRORISTS" give them a perfect cover for any fuckups they will make.
"The terrorists ate my homework!"
I'm constantly surpised - if the user base if SO ignorant, how does Microsoft ITSELF manages to kick their butts with their propoganda?
:D
Looks like some warp-flux-marketing technology. And they probably has already patented it
See the context. And now - imagine Real Networks appearing on user desktops again...
Sorry. You, of course, are right, but - there isn't only an issue about Apple fanboys. It's just as much about Real Networks.
And that's a bad thing. They should have ceased to exist a long long long long long time ago.
If only it wasn't Real Networks. You know, the company with business ethics even below Microsoft. With spy/ad and malware forcefully installed on your PC forcing some "partners" to offer their media services only in realmedia formats.
I remember that at one time they had damn usable player. Then it became a memory hog. Then it became memory and CPU hog. At the time when I saw a popup offering some stupid girlie artists supersingle download I had enough and had just plain ignored any RM offering on the web since.
But regarding to apple trying to protect their fairytale copy protection scheme - whatever will be, will be. I'm planning to buy an iPod (to complement my 12" iBook) in next month and frankly I can't care less about interoperability with third party offerings.
Apple offers iTunes, they pretend to make money in it and if I can choose I choose an IT world dominated by Apple instead of Microsoft or Linux. And I will stick to this point unless something drastical will happen - like an usable linux desktop application or bugfree microsoft release.
Both are rather unlikely events within next decade...
And as per this case - break the guts out of those Real Media guys. I don't want to think that RealMedia will have ANY connection or compatibility with my iPod. Let them rot in the world where they belong - Win32 crashspace.
Hmm, let's see... Resoldering a few northbridges on early abit mobos (430 series) - I had access to writen off equipement and made pretty neat little money reselling them afterwards. Windows NT 4 doesn't mind if you hotswap pci cards - and if you restart according devices it properly operates adaptec scsi cards and sound blaster (others not tested). Ide HDD's can be easly swapped under linux (rescan ide buses). Also - always check the fans in computer you prepare for your boss. I found that fan on pentium 233MMX had somehow unconnected in transit when he started to complain about some strange crashes. I bet - the cpusocket's plastics had melted about 1" downwards.