I've actually enjoyed this game quite a bit. I mean, COD4 basically consists of one thing. Shooting people. Over and over. And yet it doesnt get the repeptitive label.
Sure, you climb a lot. But they aren't all cookie cutter climbs. There's several very large eagle's nests in the mid to late game that are actually quite the challenge to figure out how to get up. You're free to figure out how to attack targets. The game has as much freedom as any action game I've ever played. I think too many people just want their hand held in games. The other poster got it right when he called it a sandbox type game.
I enjoyed tremendously sneaking around and taking out 10 guards one after another without getting caught. Or fighting 30 or so guards in one continuous fight. Or finding the best route to leap attack and one shot some target.
Lubos, on Bee's blog has shown himself to be nothing but an clown. He argues as if he's on the SA forums. When he did attempt to make a point he was quickly made to look like an asshat.
Judging by the comments from others there, he certainly intelligent, but close minded, immature, and prone to lapses in judgment.
You do realize MS has been selling older games on XBL for a long time right? I mean, you did know that before you wrote your stupid comment right? I'm sure it's not as if you're going to get into some arguement as to how selling a game for a console system one generation older is somehow novel yet selling them for a system 3 or 4 gens older is not.
Nintendo didn't invent selling older games via a download. Thanks.
If I am eagerly anticipating game X, and a magazine has an in-depth 8 page preview- of course I am going to read it.
Whereas I would go to their website and read it. And if it's not on their website, I'm not going to read it, but I'll find the best indepth review that is online. Not all "review" online are stubs. I know I'm sorta-off you anti-ADD point here. But I think the real point is that it's not short vs long articles or whatever. It's that compared to the internet magazies and newspapers are horrid.
Magazines and newspapers are being killed by the internet, we all know that. NewScientist I pay for. Just to get access to the website since all their mags are on it. I hope what we don't lose is the quality content like NewScienst, so I hope their subscription model works.
So what magazine publishers need to be saying is "Crap. We're like the horse salesman when cars came along. Time to start selling cars." Financially, sure, some people still aren't online. I don't see how video game mags apply to them though. And airports, sure, last time I read a newspaper, the paper version, was the last time I flew. But even that'll be not needed in a few years as mobile devices with internet capabilities improve and grow in use and features.
And you choose to give them the rights to use your photos when you post them there. You bolded "choose" a few times. What you're missing if these people all "choose" to upload their stuff to facebook and that when they created their accounts they agreed to give facebook the right to use their images.
Good job. That's what I was wondering a few posts up from yours and just was too lazy to go look up their ToS. This doesn't seem like a privacy issue. It seems like a "you're using their service for free issue. Deal with it or leave" issue.
Seems like the same people that complain about this are the same types that cry freedom of speech when posting stupid crap on a private forum.
God of War had nice graphics for it's time. Great for the PS2, not better then what was on the PC at the time with a decent system. And that was almost 3 years ago now. Which, being that it was almost 3 years ago, doesn't exactly make your point meaningful. And even if I ignored the issues without using God of War, it was still ONE game, the exception, not the norm. And it only bolsters my original point that even after the PC's had longed passed the PS2, the PS2 was a system that people made games for and people bought games for.
Clear winners! Well for now. Well, maybe it isn't clear. Well. Actually it is clear. Because if you notice what I said was "won" was the developers and exclusive titles worth playing. And if you don't think that is clear, for right now, you're not paying attention. Because the 360 list is far superior then the PS3, and even the Wii, as far as titles go. Last year, last month, today, and what's coming in the next year.
But that alone is enough to ask, how will they do this? Because they've sold over 12 million consoles and people will make games for a console with a large userbase. It's a simple question of their willingness to support it and not attempt to undermine with the release of a new system. Though, of course they could still release a new system and not undermine as long as they are still willing to supporting it (money, developers, promotion, etc...)
You say live isn't enough. Yet live is the most successful gaming community not counting MMORPG's ever. That heavily trumps you saying "Read other comments". You do know there are millions of people paying for XBL right? The 360 sales are the best of any of the big 3 outside of Japan, and that is mportant because many titles are marketed for either one or the other (of course some are both, but not all games are). And having more consoles in Europe and North America is a good position to be in. And combined they're almost even with the Wii, and far ahead of the PS3.
Are you mentally retarded? Didn't the "for now" part not cover the "for now" issue?
And yes, they can exist on just DVD for another several years on *that* console. Because even with that *limitation*, and with the fact that they haven't maxed out the system's capabilities, they are already making great games for it "right now".
While more capacity in the delivery medium would get used, with a nice established based people will continue to make games for it that don't suck. When do you see PC's game switching to only HD-DVD content, or Blu-Ray content? Obviously your stupid ass thinks it's next week. Because no way could a good game get delivered on DVD 4 years from now.
Give me one of example of the Xbox 360 breaking it's own rules in 2 years? Oh, you got none. Shocking. Oh, what you got the Orange Box's achievements at best?
Next, God of War. Can you follow a conversation? It was clear on technical merits *he* was basic the 360 being outdated compared to PC's. Not on how good the game itself was. You can't cherry pick here. If the PS2 was trumped, and it *was* by PC's, and yet still was popular, the 360 can do the same thing.
Yeah Wii this Wii that. The 360's have sold well. Have a very good installed base. Have clearly won, for now at least, the exclusives title, and by their own admissions they want to keep it going for about the same amount of as the PS2 Nothing more. But then bias pricks come in chanting a bunch of anti-MS garbage. Sorry, it's not reality, it's your our stupidity.
Your post is really a bunch of poor assumptions, that have been addressed elsewhere. I mean, before you posted.
The 360 is already on year two. They've already stated there will be no HD-DVD games. The PS2 was trumped by computers long before that one started to fade. And really, you could say it isn't even fading yet, and computers are way past what the PS2 can do.
The fact that you used WILL doesn't mean your right. The 360 will most likely stay as is, with improvements only being ones of comfort, not need. I won't use WILL in all caps, but I will say there's a better chance of me being right then you being right.
There are millions of reasons it could fail to copy. If it's broken up as one could safely assume, the "why" it failed isn't where this needs to get handled. There's going to be several layers of abstraction involved here. As is even pointed out in TFA, all that needs to happen is if it doesn't finish writing without error, don't remove the original files.
Can't agree with you. It is the exact type of that is usually caught by automated testing. The issue isn't that a hard drive was bumped. The issue is that the write operation failed. In this case due to a drive no longer being accessible.
The failure is easily automated, and the result of that failure is easy to catch.
And I wouldn't exactly call this regression testing, as such functions as file movement aren't usually impacted by later changes. It should be pretty basic on the design chart. Sounds to me more like "working as intended...use move at your own risk". Which I think it stupid, but I don't see how this really was *missed*, especially since some are claiming it's been this way since at least Tiger.
Yes, that's easily avoidable. If you know it exists. And hopefully the first time you get bitten by this it isn't something critical. Would be garbage to have to work around that one.
TFA looked decent in it's details. Even step by step recreation. But it's a pretty serious bug, that as you mention, *needs* to be fixed quick and I didn't see any other sources confirming it.
I thought about doing that. Or, buying IDE to SATA converters that would sit inside the case. But either way I was looking at spending more money, when really I was able to find decent boards for X2's or Core 2 Duo's, for under $100. So then spending about $20-30 on converters, etc... looked bigger in comparision. That's basically an additional 25% of the mobo price just to get it working with my old IDE drives.
But like I said I was able to find them OK for the Intel based boards. Considering most CPU's I was looking at were about $115ish to $150ish, that $25 was better spent IMO going intel (something I hadn't done in almost 10 years) and putting the money on the CPU.
I wouldn't call 35 fps shuddering. A constant 35 would be totally fine but for the most avid ladder-ranking type of person that worries about response as much as anything.
Now 15 fps and the like in a FPS, sure that would be noticable. And I wouldn't call 35 fps ideal. But most probably wouldn't notice a big difference between 35 and 50. I mean, it is more then say standard TV.
There are certain pieces you can pick up from large brick and mortal retailers that they have cheap.
They do heave leaders you know, and if you're not prone to dropping $500 on worthless crap you don't need then there's no reason to be afriad of them.
Yes, you can usually find stuff online that matches the price of what they are using to get people into the store. But then you need to wait a few days to get it, you're most likely paying shipping, etc.
For example, the video cards were all rediculously priced last time I was in compusa compared to newegg or mwave, places I don't mind buying from online. But like I said, there was a nice 500 gig IDE drive a few months back at compusa for $100, and I couldn't beat that at either place. So I grabbed it since I wanted another harddrive, and at the time could only use IDE.
So what's the problem other then your own ignorance? I haven't seen any reason to buy items like mobo's and ram and processors at the major brick and mortar guys. But LCD's they usually are decent with, and hard drives as well.
IDE drives aren't really an issue. For the MB in the article, sure. But that's not the spirit of the article I'd say.
I recently went through having to upgrade, and I have 4 IDE drives I wanted to keep. I found most new AMD based boards only had one IDE channel. Meaning, I get to keep my DVD drive and one HD.
Most intel based boards had more. Usually 2 to 3. Not sure if this is because of the reference designs for the chipsets or not. But a lot of searching led to that conclusion.
The ASUS I just grabbed had 3 IDE channels. And 6 SATA connectors.
I got a thread on here detailing what I picked up for $450 shipped last week. It's inline with what they're showing in the article. Nice full-size ATX towers can be found for $75 and less, with a power supply. Add a single 500 gig IDE drive, $100. That's how much I paid for one a few months ago at CompUSA even. DVD R/W Drive, $30. 17" flat screen LCD, $100. Find a decent one onsalse at CompUSA or BestBuy. Heck, I walked into a 21" View Sonic on sale a few months back and grabbed it for $250. Mouse and keyboard, wireless optical 2, $40.
So you're looking around $800 for a comparable system, but including everything built from scratch. Of course, you still need an OS, and since you're talking games, you're going to be paying for that too. So you're looking at a grand total IMO.
FTFA: "There's a silly misconception out there that you need to spend $1,500 or more to own a decent gaming rig. This is just nonsense"
Sure, I know people that always buy top of the line right when it comes out. They actually care if they're able to get 71 fps in a certain game vs 68 fps. Not because they play it, but because it means something to them to have a high number.
But that's the exception, not the norm. People building their own systems like was done in the article aren't that retarded.
I was just forced into upgrading due to a motherboard that went bad on an old Athlon XP 2400 system.
A few hours of looking and a e4600 Core 2 Duo, 2 gigs of DDR2 667, decent Asus MB, and a 512 meg Nvidia 8600GT...
$450 shipped. That included seating the processor and having them do the bios upgrade before shipping for $9. This from a reputable online service that many people have used for years. Even if I had to add a case, monitor, hardrive, dvd drive, key board and mouse, you're still looking at under $750 without a problem. And that would certainly qualify as decent.
Now, I got no doubt they spent a ton of time finding just the right stuff to eeck out all that little bit of tweaking.
But overall, no one thinks when building a system yourself you need to spend anywhere near that for a decent gaming system. For top of the line to have bragging rights over a meaningless fps score, sure. But not for something that'll play everything new just fine and be fine for years.
Then XBL Arcade sounds more like what you're looking for. And that's where MS has an even bigger lead on Sony then just those titles that have been mentioned.
No, I think the mouse became the de facto device for controlling location on the screen.
I don't believe you're going to see the Wii remote be the de facto controller from now on. It works well for some games, not for others. And I've seen more then a few people feel it's become a novelty that wore off rather quickly. It was different for sure. But it's got a long way to go before you or anyone else claims it's as revolutionary as the mouse.
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I've actually enjoyed this game quite a bit. I mean, COD4 basically consists of one thing. Shooting people. Over and over. And yet it doesnt get the repeptitive label.
Sure, you climb a lot. But they aren't all cookie cutter climbs. There's several very large eagle's nests in the mid to late game that are actually quite the challenge to figure out how to get up. You're free to figure out how to attack targets. The game has as much freedom as any action game I've ever played. I think too many people just want their hand held in games. The other poster got it right when he called it a sandbox type game. I enjoyed tremendously sneaking around and taking out 10 guards one after another without getting caught. Or fighting 30 or so guards in one continuous fight. Or finding the best route to leap attack and one shot some target.
The part that would explain who is who and that would tie this story together so that it made actual sense.
I'll take dups to good stories over this nonsensical submission anyday.
You realize you just stated that Lisi's model says there's 20 more particles, then right after you say it doesn't make any testable predictions?
Lubos, on Bee's blog has shown himself to be nothing but an clown. He argues as if he's on the SA forums. When he did attempt to make a point he was quickly made to look like an asshat.
Judging by the comments from others there, he certainly intelligent, but close minded, immature, and prone to lapses in judgment.
You do realize MS has been selling older games on XBL for a long time right? I mean, you did know that before you wrote your stupid comment right? I'm sure it's not as if you're going to get into some arguement as to how selling a game for a console system one generation older is somehow novel yet selling them for a system 3 or 4 gens older is not.
Nintendo didn't invent selling older games via a download. Thanks.
If I am eagerly anticipating game X, and a magazine has an in-depth 8 page preview- of course I am going to read it.
Whereas I would go to their website and read it. And if it's not on their website, I'm not going to read it, but I'll find the best indepth review that is online. Not all "review" online are stubs. I know I'm sorta-off you anti-ADD point here. But I think the real point is that it's not short vs long articles or whatever. It's that compared to the internet magazies and newspapers are horrid.
Magazines and newspapers are being killed by the internet, we all know that. NewScientist I pay for. Just to get access to the website since all their mags are on it. I hope what we don't lose is the quality content like NewScienst, so I hope their subscription model works.
So what magazine publishers need to be saying is "Crap. We're like the horse salesman when cars came along. Time to start selling cars." Financially, sure, some people still aren't online. I don't see how video game mags apply to them though. And airports, sure, last time I read a newspaper, the paper version, was the last time I flew. But even that'll be not needed in a few years as mobile devices with internet capabilities improve and grow in use and features.
And you choose to give them the rights to use your photos when you post them there. You bolded "choose" a few times. What you're missing if these people all "choose" to upload their stuff to facebook and that when they created their accounts they agreed to give facebook the right to use their images.
Good job. That's what I was wondering a few posts up from yours and just was too lazy to go look up their ToS.
This doesn't seem like a privacy issue. It seems like a "you're using their service for free issue. Deal with it or leave" issue.
Seems like the same people that complain about this are the same types that cry freedom of speech when posting stupid crap on a private forum.
to facebook, combined with some legal mumbo jumbo, potentially give facebook the right to use those pictures?
You agree to let facebook use any pictures uploaded for yadda yadda yadda...
*I agree*
Hey, no fair! You're using my picture.
I really don't see this as similar to, say, me going around and taking pictures of people and using them without consent.
God of War had nice graphics for it's time. Great for the PS2, not better then what was on the PC at the time with a decent system. And that was almost 3 years ago now. Which, being that it was almost 3 years ago, doesn't exactly make your point meaningful. And even if I ignored the issues without using God of War, it was still ONE game, the exception, not the norm. And it only bolsters my original point that even after the PC's had longed passed the PS2, the PS2 was a system that people made games for and people bought games for.
Clear winners! Well for now. Well, maybe it isn't clear. Well.
Actually it is clear. Because if you notice what I said was "won" was the developers and exclusive titles worth playing. And if you don't think that is clear, for right now, you're not paying attention. Because the 360 list is far superior then the PS3, and even the Wii, as far as titles go. Last year, last month, today, and what's coming in the next year.
But that alone is enough to ask, how will they do this?
Because they've sold over 12 million consoles and people will make games for a console with a large userbase. It's a simple question of their willingness to support it and not attempt to undermine with the release of a new system. Though, of course they could still release a new system and not undermine as long as they are still willing to supporting it (money, developers, promotion, etc...)
You say live isn't enough. Yet live is the most successful gaming community not counting MMORPG's ever. That heavily trumps you saying "Read other comments". You do know there are millions of people paying for XBL right? The 360 sales are the best of any of the big 3 outside of Japan, and that is mportant because many titles are marketed for either one or the other (of course some are both, but not all games are). And having more consoles in Europe and North America is a good position to be in. And combined they're almost even with the Wii, and far ahead of the PS3.
Are you mentally retarded? Didn't the "for now" part not cover the "for now" issue?
And yes, they can exist on just DVD for another several years on *that* console. Because even with that *limitation*, and with the fact that they haven't maxed out the system's capabilities, they are already making great games for it "right now".
While more capacity in the delivery medium would get used, with a nice established based people will continue to make games for it that don't suck. When do you see PC's game switching to only HD-DVD content, or Blu-Ray content? Obviously your stupid ass thinks it's next week. Because no way could a good game get delivered on DVD 4 years from now.
I saw that same spot and actually paused it and rewinded it a few times to get a better look.
It's very possible a collapsed lava tube, they call them sinuous rilles.
http://volcano.und.edu/vwdocs/planet_volcano/lunar/sin_rilles/Overview.html
Give me one of example of the Xbox 360 breaking it's own rules in 2 years? Oh, you got none. Shocking. Oh, what you got the Orange Box's achievements at best?
Next, God of War. Can you follow a conversation? It was clear on technical merits *he* was basic the 360 being outdated compared to PC's. Not on how good the game itself was. You can't cherry pick here. If the PS2 was trumped, and it *was* by PC's, and yet still was popular, the 360 can do the same thing.
Yeah Wii this Wii that. The 360's have sold well. Have a very good installed base. Have clearly won, for now at least, the exclusives title, and by their own admissions they want to keep it going for about the same amount of as the PS2 Nothing more. But then bias pricks come in chanting a bunch of anti-MS garbage. Sorry, it's not reality, it's your our stupidity.
Your post is really a bunch of poor assumptions, that have been addressed elsewhere. I mean, before you posted.
The 360 is already on year two. They've already stated there will be no HD-DVD games. The PS2 was trumped by computers long before that one started to fade. And really, you could say it isn't even fading yet, and computers are way past what the PS2 can do.
The fact that you used WILL doesn't mean your right. The 360 will most likely stay as is, with improvements only being ones of comfort, not need. I won't use WILL in all caps, but I will say there's a better chance of me being right then you being right.
The USB part doesn't matter.
There are millions of reasons it could fail to copy. If it's broken up as one could safely assume, the "why" it failed isn't where this needs to get handled. There's going to be several layers of abstraction involved here. As is even pointed out in TFA, all that needs to happen is if it doesn't finish writing without error, don't remove the original files.
Can't agree with you. It is the exact type of that is usually caught by automated testing. The issue isn't that a hard drive was bumped. The issue is that the write operation failed. In this case due to a drive no longer being accessible. The failure is easily automated, and the result of that failure is easy to catch.
And I wouldn't exactly call this regression testing, as such functions as file movement aren't usually impacted by later changes. It should be pretty basic on the design chart. Sounds to me more like "working as intended...use move at your own risk". Which I think it stupid, but I don't see how this really was *missed*, especially since some are claiming it's been this way since at least Tiger.
Well, so far that's 3. Across to different OS versions even.
Hey, maybe we should start keeping count. You get the even numbers, I'll take care of the odds.
Yes, that's easily avoidable. If you know it exists. And hopefully the first time you get bitten by this it isn't something critical. Would be garbage to have to work around that one.
TFA looked decent in it's details. Even step by step recreation. But it's a pretty serious bug, that as you mention, *needs* to be fixed quick and I didn't see any other sources confirming it.
I thought about doing that. Or, buying IDE to SATA converters that would sit inside the case. But either way I was looking at spending more money, when really I was able to find decent boards for X2's or Core 2 Duo's, for under $100. So then spending about $20-30 on converters, etc... looked bigger in comparision. That's basically an additional 25% of the mobo price just to get it working with my old IDE drives.
But like I said I was able to find them OK for the Intel based boards. Considering most CPU's I was looking at were about $115ish to $150ish, that $25 was better spent IMO going intel (something I hadn't done in almost 10 years) and putting the money on the CPU.
I wouldn't call 35 fps shuddering. A constant 35 would be totally fine but for the most avid ladder-ranking type of person that worries about response as much as anything.
Now 15 fps and the like in a FPS, sure that would be noticable. And I wouldn't call 35 fps ideal. But most probably wouldn't notice a big difference between 35 and 50. I mean, it is more then say standard TV.
Are you always that stupid?
There are certain pieces you can pick up from large brick and mortal retailers that they have cheap.
They do heave leaders you know, and if you're not prone to dropping $500 on worthless crap you don't need then there's no reason to be afriad of them.
Yes, you can usually find stuff online that matches the price of what they are using to get people into the store. But then you need to wait a few days to get it, you're most likely paying shipping, etc.
For example, the video cards were all rediculously priced last time I was in compusa compared to newegg or mwave, places I don't mind buying from online. But like I said, there was a nice 500 gig IDE drive a few months back at compusa for $100, and I couldn't beat that at either place. So I grabbed it since I wanted another harddrive, and at the time could only use IDE.
So what's the problem other then your own ignorance? I haven't seen any reason to buy items like mobo's and ram and processors at the major brick and mortar guys. But LCD's they usually are decent with, and hard drives as well.
IDE drives aren't really an issue. For the MB in the article, sure. But that's not the spirit of the article I'd say.
I recently went through having to upgrade, and I have 4 IDE drives I wanted to keep. I found most new AMD based boards only had one IDE channel. Meaning, I get to keep my DVD drive and one HD.
Most intel based boards had more. Usually 2 to 3. Not sure if this is because of the reference designs for the chipsets or not. But a lot of searching led to that conclusion.
The ASUS I just grabbed had 3 IDE channels. And 6 SATA connectors.
I got a thread on here detailing what I picked up for $450 shipped last week. It's inline with what they're showing in the article. Nice full-size ATX towers can be found for $75 and less, with a power supply. Add a single 500 gig IDE drive, $100. That's how much I paid for one a few months ago at CompUSA even. DVD R/W Drive, $30. 17" flat screen LCD, $100. Find a decent one onsalse at CompUSA or BestBuy. Heck, I walked into a 21" View Sonic on sale a few months back and grabbed it for $250. Mouse and keyboard, wireless optical 2, $40.
So you're looking around $800 for a comparable system, but including everything built from scratch. Of course, you still need an OS, and since you're talking games, you're going to be paying for that too. So you're looking at a grand total IMO.
But it would be a rather nice system.
FTFA: "There's a silly misconception out there that you need to spend $1,500 or more to own a decent gaming rig. This is just nonsense"
Sure, I know people that always buy top of the line right when it comes out. They actually care if they're able to get 71 fps in a certain game vs 68 fps. Not because they play it, but because it means something to them to have a high number.
But that's the exception, not the norm. People building their own systems like was done in the article aren't that retarded.
I was just forced into upgrading due to a motherboard that went bad on an old Athlon XP 2400 system.
A few hours of looking and a e4600 Core 2 Duo, 2 gigs of DDR2 667, decent Asus MB, and a 512 meg Nvidia 8600GT...
$450 shipped. That included seating the processor and having them do the bios upgrade before shipping for $9. This from a reputable online service that many people have used for years. Even if I had to add a case, monitor, hardrive, dvd drive, key board and mouse, you're still looking at under $750 without a problem. And that would certainly qualify as decent.
Now, I got no doubt they spent a ton of time finding just the right stuff to eeck out all that little bit of tweaking.
But overall, no one thinks when building a system yourself you need to spend anywhere near that for a decent gaming system. For top of the line to have bragging rights over a meaningless fps score, sure. But not for something that'll play everything new just fine and be fine for years.
Then XBL Arcade sounds more like what you're looking for. And that's where MS has an even bigger lead on Sony then just those titles that have been mentioned.
No, I think the mouse became the de facto device for controlling location on the screen.
I don't believe you're going to see the Wii remote be the de facto controller from now on. It works well for some games, not for others. And I've seen more then a few people feel it's become a novelty that wore off rather quickly. It was different for sure. But it's got a long way to go before you or anyone else claims it's as revolutionary as the mouse.