Yes, they act like normal CD-Roms. I've installed Be and SuSE linux with them, but not in DVD format, they were standard CD's
I think it'll work. I mean, you really just need a drive to read DVD formatted discs, but you need a decoder card/software to decode the movies and such.
1) Old (I know there are older slashdotters/geeks/nerds, bear with me). 2) Doing other things with their time than compiling a linux kernel (notice I said "other" not "better").
If I was out trying to convince X amount of people to vote for me, then I have a preportionally less time than X to do other things (boink my wife, play on the computer, beat half-life again, play music, actually care about other things).
The older thing is the kicker. Sorry, older nerds, but you're outnumbered, and you aren't the ones running for office.
When I posted earlier (yes, I was the one that said I was running for president, and moderated, down! "off topic" my ass, it was on topic, stupid, but on topic), I wasn't joking. I am RUNNING for president of the US, but I can't win, because I just turned 21. I can't become a senator or even a representative, even if I wanted to.
Yeah, it sucks, but until a larger segement of the geek popluation grows up just a little, there isn't much we can do, unless it's convince the older people to run for office.
But, seriously, there's a bunch of stereotypes in the article (male and female), and for good reason.
They're usually true.
Sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, you're different, and so am I, but 99% of people are normal stupid people. They're all individuals, like everyone else (I'm not!).
Take, for instance, my experiences last night. It was a rave-type thing, I suppose, but this presented several problems:
I don't dance (well, it's because i dance badly). I am engaged. It's been too long since I've seen my S.O. I have trouble with platonic friendships, so even that was out of the question.
All and all, this led to some rather interesting things last night, but the most relevent one here is I watched a LOT of people.
No-one went after the women I found attractive (and I could tell other men/women [what did you expect, a homogenious hetrosexual event?] did agree with me on the attractive part).
Awww.
I don't know why I feel this is relevent. But stereotypes exist for reasons. We'd go insane if it wasn't for the catigorization that we do. I'm not saying that it doesn't suck when we apply it to groups of people, but those feelings are there because of experiences (skewed or not).
Okay, I'm sorry if that didn't make any sense whatsoever.
"Using Doom (or any 1PS engine) as a front end is a fairly novel and potentially useful way to take advantage of 3-D for a limited set of tasks."
Hmm, when I bought some hardware, I think it was my voodoo 1 card (I still got it!), and I put all the software (After all, I had 1.2 GIGS of space) on it, there was a little program by, I think, MS that allowed you to run around in a 3d world and select the 3d game demo that you wanted to play. You just jumped through a portal, like Mario 64.
I always thought this was a cool idea.
But one of my friend doesn't like three-d stuff. One, he says he gets sick because of it, and two, they're a waste of time . . . I may be able to convince him to use a 3D OS. I'd be cool, I think.
But I'm weird, and I don't care about lost resourses, or else I wouldn't have gotten rid of my commie 64.
I don't consider myself much of a programmer, but when I try . . .
I have about 1.5 gigs of mp3's, but I've burnt a few to regular audio CD's in a very specific order, start slow, start artsy, and hit the gas. A good CD of that I made is:
Some classical guitar stuff, some other slower classical/ambient peices, move up in speed to an acoustic Everlong by Foo Fighters, pump up to electric guitars, end with Tool's Hooker With a Penis. It's not the heaviest song ever, but it's one of the best.
Another favorite is the schitzo CD (I know, it's really M.P.D., but anwyay), where you have a fast/upbeat song followed by a slow one (say, uhh, Korn, then Tori Amos).
But, main CD's when I can't listen to MP3's (labs, too much memory used, or whatever the reason):
Tool: AEnima or Undertow. Rasputina: How We Quit the Forest (I use this while writing too). Marilyn Manson (yes, him): Anti-Christ Superstar. NIN: Downward Spiral/Broken/Fixed (fragile is excellent, but too new for me to have coded to it.) Aphex Twin: Richard D James or Selected Ambient Works 2. Come To Daddy Single is good, too. Tori Amos: Little Earthquakes Jocyiln Montgomery: The Music of Hilge Von Bringen (is that correct), it's with David Lynch, and it's Absolutely Beautiful. It's good for those of you that don't like words you understand (it's old German, I think, and Latin). Bjork: Homeogenic (girlfriend has the others) Foo Fighers: Color and the Shape (WILL keep you awake) Bloodhound Gang: Any (just for fun)
I have to have music on all the time, so, I have a lot of it (~300 CD's, 1.5 gigs MP3's).
Language is the filter through which you see the world.
As a native English speaker, I see the world through a different sort of filter, simple, but I think, effective example.
I think of Morning, Afternoon, Evening, and Night to refer to times of the day. Spanish has only three of these words, I think.
If you eliminate a language, that way of looking at the world dies with it. A culture is robbed of it's medium, and so on.
Learning a common second language is a possibility. But, language is a cognative prison. I know I misspelled it, but try and respect the way other people look at the world. One isn't right or wrong, just different.
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That's because the pages take so long to load . . . har har har.
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"in the respect that you do not have control of the content."
I understand, but what I said still stands. You have a choice, to be offended or not to be. You can choose to hear selectively, which is something I do when I, say, listen to Howard Stern or some rap . . .
"Yeah yeah, the thread is long dead. I still felt compelled to respond.:)"
That's cool. I wonder how long these things stay active . . .
"I hate to say this (because it's true), but if you've been impressed by the quality of ANYthing MTV has done in the last 15 years... "
I dunno, daria has always seemed pretty funny. And some of the videos are cool, even if they don't show them all that often (I haven't seen Stinkfist, err, Track #1, by Tool but once on there), but I don't have a TV, so . . .
Okay, these replys aren't in order, I just kept scrolling up and finding a bunch of more stuff to reply too, sorry if it's really convoluted.
"Another facet of life that teenagers often experience is rebellion. "
And this is bad how? I mean, you just don't say it, so I can't really say you think so, but . . .
Isn't Linux a form of rebellion? It's rebelling against "the man" and all the "bad '133t 4aX0rz'". (Pardon me if my l33t language file is out of date.)
I don't care what your reasons are for using linux, I don't give a ____ if you like you os(s?), but this is getting annoying. It's like those people that claim that life has to suck, or things have to be hard to be worth while. It's completely stupid, and it makes them feel better about their wasted time and effort.
Whether it's reading ol' English poetry, scoring with some hot chick out of your league, or using another OS FOR NO REASON! If you want to learn linux, fine, go ahead. I am trying, but I was born too late, I suppose. But, to claim your way as right is stupid.
"Real hackers, whenever remotely possible, do not concern themselves with Windows. Go get Linux. "
This has to be the dumbest statement I have ever read.
Linux is not the end-all be-all of OS's.
Something, soon, will come, and it WILL outshadow linux. Linus may have put together a nifty OS, and an even better method of distributing it (open source), but it's days are numbered by something I don't know about, nor you.
A "real hacker" will use whatever she or he has to to get what they want done done. Winux, BSD, or Be, or any of the others.
"The fact that the these who claim to be "elite" are using a operating system that is the equivalent of a sanitarium with padded walls and crayons for writing letters can be used to prove that these "hackers" are really technically inept."
Wow, your ad hominim attacks are really insightful and helping your position.
"AOL is a terrible company"
Why? You give no reasons, you simply state it. Irregardless of the truth of your statement, you fail to mention busy signals or 4 hour waits for tech support with their clunky program that anyone who's smart enough minimizes and uses netscape or IE over it.
You are not helping your precious Linux. You're being spiteful.
"Software piracy, a.k.a. "warez" is a common activity of these faux "hackers" because it gives them a sense of doing something that is wrong and more importantly, illegal."
God, how dumb are these words?
"Very."
Every pirate does it because they see a need for what the program offers. Entertainment or photo editing.
What you see as rebellion is simply a matter of practicality for most pirates. "Your class requires powerpoint? That sucks, dude, I got a copy."
And if you say it's okay to do it to MS, then I think you prove my point on how you're not helping what you want to help.
"Anarchy files is a simple extension of the need for rebellion. "
No, the files _are_ not simply that. When I peruse a site full of this information, I do it for a reason, not for rebellion. I want to learn, silly.
"Everyone has used computers."
Bzzt. You don't even bother to qualify with almost. I'm dating a person who only used the apple iie's in our school until I got her a computer. Her parents never used one, don't use the one I gave her, and probably won't if I give one to them.
So, your statement is immediately proved wrong. Especially when you want everyone to use computers the way you obviously want them to. You nearly demand that people use Linux, and that's all.
And so, by extention, I wouldn't have used computers, either, because I don't use linux the way you do. I use it, as, hehe, an antique, a blast from the past, if you will.
"Computer viruses. Personally, I think that anyone that has taken the time to learn assembly should write themself a microkernel so they can network their toaster ovens or electric toothbrushes or do something at least semi-productive."
I totally agree. But, writing viruses is an exercise, really. It's learning to use the system to do what you want.
There are no "bad" programs. Bad thoughts, bad intentions, and programs. Sure, some might crash, some might infect and damage, but only through negligence or malicious intent.
"But alas, it appears some insist upon pointlessly annoying innocent computer users."
Don't use "alas" in your writing, it makes you sound silly, unless your doing it for a reason (period piece, etc.) It contributes nothing here but someone trying to write like they are smart (not saying that you aren't, or are for that matter).
"If you meet any two of those conditions (with possible exception to numbers two, four and six) I would immediatly seek out psychiatric help for your immaturity. "
Huh? What numbers are these? What do they refer to? I think you've finally confused me. Gloat while you can, if you think confusing me is good. Writing shouldn't be like that unless it's for a reason, and you seem to want to be clear with what you're saying.
So, finally, I get to write part of my response.
This has nothing to do with computers. This has to do with acceptance of difference and realization that others have different lives.
I don't want to compile a kernal. Sorry. I'm totally mistified about modules. Sorry. I hate Windows crashing problem. Sorry. I can't even figure out how to get out of vi. Sorry. I want to learn, but I'm busy. Sorry.
All I want is to get by, and do what I love to do. I'm not a nerd, I shouldn't be here. I work on computers, and I blame the problems on Microsoft because they are part of the problem, but I'm only there for the pay check.
That might be scary for you to accept. But there are more people like me that don't live on computers. I've grown up with them. They're like shag carpeting and astroturf. But I know that computers are not all there is.
For me, the computer is merely a means to an end. It's what I write stories and poetry and stupid essays on. It's what I record music with. It's what puts food on the tables of the nicest restaurants.
And that's what's different between people like those that posted this and me. I respect the effort that people like him (it is a him, right?) put into the programs I use every day.
But I'm not like that. And you're not like me. I respect your role. Please, if you can't respect mine, keep your mouth shut.
MTV showing "hackers" is a publicity stunt. They are a company. They cater to those who watch MTV. I don't watch MTV. I don't own a TV (well, one that works, anyhow). MTV is actually a topic of a(n old) rant of mine on my web site, if that's relevent (the CPCC). They are there for the money, they don't care about your thoughts on their accuracy, and they shouldn't. You're not the target market for their advertisors.
But, of course, even if they are linux freaks, and hump their boxen all day in beowulf cluster formation, someone is going to take a position like the author of the message I am responding to.
Either you can respect what they do, or you can't. But please, unless you have some real criticism instead of the dumb flames, keep your hand on the mouse and scroll by.
I can't get to the site (Though I'm on a LAN, the connection sucks, and half the sites on the net are unavailable, so it's pry not their fault), and I left my Bible at home (yes, I do have a copy), so I have to take your word for it.
Oh yes, every time I feel like life is growing boring, or the tedium of real life is bearing down on me, I listen to him. Amusing.
If you listen to any Dennis Leary (not the dead guy, yet.:-), you should know that a few of his early acts are rehashes of Hicks material, but he gives him credit for it.
I've always wanted to do some Hicks stuff for a stand-up performance I want to do. Unfortunatly, the dead guy is more current and funnier than I am.
I used to be an Atheist, but now I believe in Bill Hicks.:-)
Some Christians wear crosses around their neck. Do you think, that if he comes back here, he's ever gonna want to see a cross again?
Creationists believe that the earth is 6,000 years old. I ask them how they get that number.
"Well, we take all the people between now and Adam and Eve, add them all together, and it comes to 6,000 years. Roughly."
"Well, how scientific is that? I mean, how can I argue with that. But can I ask you a question? It's a one word question."
"Sure, go ahead."
"You sure?"
"Yep, shoot."
"Dinosaurs?"
"Well, uhh. God put those there to test our faith."
Well, buddy, I think you're here to test my faith.
"Okay, so where are the dinosaurs in the Bible? 'And JESUS and his DICIPLES rounded a corner and there was a giant BRONTOSAURUS. And the deciples ran, but JESUS was unafraid. So he went to the dinosaur, and pluck'd a splinter from his paw. And they became friends, and the dinosaur went to Scotland and lived in a Loch. And hundereds of years later, all the fat American tourists come with their fat dollars. And how the scots did PRAISE the LORD!'"
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Have you ever noticed that people that believe in creationism look really unevolved?
--- From http://www.billhicks.com, dead heroes and all that rot.
-- When you can see sex and murder on TV, how important is it to ban the word "piss"? --
Because you mentioned George Carlin in your post, I want to mention something else he said.
"I would rather have my child watching two people making love than two people trying to kill one another." or something like that.
Susan Struthers (I think) said it a little more bluntly "I don't understand why it's worse to show a breast being kissed on TV or the movies, than for it to be hacked off."
I dunno. Turn off the TV, in any case.
I don't have 2 cents, just 3 bucks.
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Why? Are you unable to turn your radio off? Do you have to go to the store where the DJ on the piped in station is swearing?
You have choice, to be offended, or not. It's all up to you.
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"Unlike the radio where you are a captive audience"
Why? Are you unable to turn your radio off? Do you have to go to the store where the DJ on the piped in station is swearing?
You have choice, to be offended, or not. It's all up to you.
"Learning these things from (say) a hyperlinked set of webpages is not fundamentally different than learning them from a book."
Of course, theorectially, not.
But, really, it is.
Reading a book, or a single page web site with no links, I am forced into a linear pattern. I must grasp one concept flowing to the next. I must understand a, which comes before b, which are both used to come up with c.
On the net, I click on what I'm interested, Turing Tests or Tennyson, Nodes or Nietzche, you choose, and choose, and ten to one you don't go back. You learn A and jump to N and to T and back to I to Q and U and E.
I don't know which way is better. I mean, on a typical romp on the net I'll learn if my new network card is compatable with BeOS (Yeah! It is, woohoo.) how much money I have in my bank account (doh!), some news pertaining to oppression of my religious beliefs (goddamn national prayer day, I wish I could live in Minnesota), a chunk about a new and coming poet, and end up here on Slashdot, listening to people spout off about Microsoft.
Most of my books don't run the gammet like that. I think it's best to have a few of these things going at once . . . at least, it's best for me.
My problem isn't that I'm too focused, it's that I have too many hobbies.:-)
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Yes, they act like normal CD-Roms. I've installed Be and SuSE linux with them, but not in DVD format, they were standard CD's
I think it'll work. I mean, you really just need a drive to read DVD formatted discs, but you need a decoder card/software to decode the movies and such.
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Because politians are:
1) Old (I know there are older slashdotters/geeks/nerds, bear with me).
2) Doing other things with their time than compiling a linux kernel (notice I said "other" not "better").
If I was out trying to convince X amount of people to vote for me, then I have a preportionally less time than X to do other things (boink my wife, play on the computer, beat half-life again, play music, actually care about other things).
The older thing is the kicker. Sorry, older nerds, but you're outnumbered, and you aren't the ones running for office.
When I posted earlier (yes, I was the one that said I was running for president, and moderated, down! "off topic" my ass, it was on topic, stupid, but on topic), I wasn't joking. I am RUNNING for president of the US, but I can't win, because I just turned 21. I can't become a senator or even a representative, even if I wanted to.
Yeah, it sucks, but until a larger segement of the geek popluation grows up just a little, there isn't much we can do, unless it's convince the older people to run for office.
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Hi. I'm running for president of the US. Vote for me. Thank you.
But, seriously, there's a bunch of stereotypes in the article (male and female), and for good reason.
They're usually true.
Sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, you're different, and so am I, but 99% of people are normal stupid people. They're all individuals, like everyone else (I'm not!).
Take, for instance, my experiences last night. It was a rave-type thing, I suppose, but this presented several problems:
I don't dance (well, it's because i dance badly).
I am engaged.
It's been too long since I've seen my S.O.
I have trouble with platonic friendships, so even that was out of the question.
All and all, this led to some rather interesting things last night, but the most relevent one here is I watched a LOT of people.
No-one went after the women I found attractive (and I could tell other men/women [what did you expect, a homogenious hetrosexual event?] did agree with me on the attractive part).
Awww.
I don't know why I feel this is relevent. But stereotypes exist for reasons. We'd go insane if it wasn't for the catigorization that we do. I'm not saying that it doesn't suck when we apply it to groups of people, but those feelings are there because of experiences (skewed or not).
Okay, I'm sorry if that didn't make any sense whatsoever.
Actually, until the late 20's, you could actually buy the stuff. Quit a delecacy for those who could afford it.
For the record, they died for a reason . . .
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"Using Doom (or any 1PS engine) as a front end is a fairly novel and potentially useful way to take advantage of 3-D for a limited set of tasks."
Hmm, when I bought some hardware, I think it was my voodoo 1 card (I still got it!), and I put all the software (After all, I had 1.2 GIGS of space) on it, there was a little program by, I think, MS that allowed you to run around in a 3d world and select the 3d game demo that you wanted to play. You just jumped through a portal, like Mario 64.
I always thought this was a cool idea.
But one of my friend doesn't like three-d stuff. One, he says he gets sick because of it, and two, they're a waste of time . . . I may be able to convince him to use a 3D OS. I'd be cool, I think.
But I'm weird, and I don't care about lost resourses, or else I wouldn't have gotten rid of my commie 64.
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I don't consider myself much of a programmer, but when I try . . .
I have about 1.5 gigs of mp3's, but I've burnt a few to regular audio CD's in a very specific order, start slow, start artsy, and hit the gas. A good CD of that I made is:
Some classical guitar stuff, some other slower classical/ambient peices, move up in speed to an acoustic Everlong by Foo Fighters, pump up to electric guitars, end with Tool's Hooker With a Penis. It's not the heaviest song ever, but it's one of the best.
Another favorite is the schitzo CD (I know, it's really M.P.D., but anwyay), where you have a fast/upbeat song followed by a slow one (say, uhh, Korn, then Tori Amos).
But, main CD's when I can't listen to MP3's (labs, too much memory used, or whatever the reason):
Tool: AEnima or Undertow.
Rasputina: How We Quit the Forest (I use this while writing too).
Marilyn Manson (yes, him): Anti-Christ Superstar.
NIN: Downward Spiral/Broken/Fixed (fragile is excellent, but too new for me to have coded to it.)
Aphex Twin: Richard D James or Selected Ambient Works 2. Come To Daddy Single is good, too.
Tori Amos: Little Earthquakes
Jocyiln Montgomery: The Music of Hilge Von Bringen (is that correct), it's with David Lynch, and it's Absolutely Beautiful. It's good for those of you that don't like words you understand (it's old German, I think, and Latin).
Bjork: Homeogenic (girlfriend has the others)
Foo Fighers: Color and the Shape (WILL keep you awake)
Bloodhound Gang: Any (just for fun)
I have to have music on all the time, so, I have a lot of it (~300 CD's, 1.5 gigs MP3's).
Wow, time to go home . . .
"what the heck am I going to do with perfect pitch as a CS student? "
Get a hobby. Play music?
There is more to life than staring at a CRT.
I know MTV doesn't produce videos, but they do show them. Hence, showing them is something they've "done".
They have shown videos that are neat, and daria is funny, which is something that I think they have produced.
But I agree that they should just show the damn 5 minute commercials for the band. M2? I can't get that, even if I had a TV.
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Bullshit, and I'll tell you why:
Language is the filter through which you see the world.
As a native English speaker, I see the world through a different sort of filter, simple, but I think, effective example.
I think of Morning, Afternoon, Evening, and Night to refer to times of the day. Spanish has only three of these words, I think.
If you eliminate a language, that way of looking at the world dies with it. A culture is robbed of it's medium, and so on.
Learning a common second language is a possibility. But, language is a cognative prison. I know I misspelled it, but try and respect the way other people look at the world. One isn't right or wrong, just different.
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"I know who actually think things out before posting and bother to argue with complete, well written ideas."
That's because the pages take so long to load . . . har har har.
Okay, it was stupid, moderate me.
"in the respect that you do not have control of the content."
:)"
I understand, but what I said still stands. You have a choice, to be offended or not to be. You can choose to hear selectively, which is something I do when I, say, listen to Howard Stern or some rap . . .
"Yeah yeah, the thread is long dead. I still felt compelled to respond.
That's cool. I wonder how long these things stay active . . .
"If you look at hot games like Quake3 and Neverwinter Nights(RPG) that are coming out. They are being developed for all 3 platforms. "
If I remember correctly, it's still like an alpha release, but BeOS has a Quake3 port.
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How dare you to insist that strange matter act normal! We should love and respect it's difference and what it can show us about ourselves.
Or something like that.
"I hate to say this (because it's true), but if you've been impressed by the quality of ANYthing MTV has done in the last 15 years... "
I dunno, daria has always seemed pretty funny. And some of the videos are cool, even if they don't show them all that often (I haven't seen Stinkfist, err, Track #1, by Tool but once on there), but I don't have a TV, so . . .
Stupid question and stupid person:
"Hey, why you readin'?"
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"Another facet of life that teenagers often experience is rebellion. "
And this is bad how? I mean, you just don't say it, so I can't really say you think so, but . . .
Isn't Linux a form of rebellion? It's rebelling against "the man" and all the "bad '133t 4aX0rz'". (Pardon me if my l33t language file is out of date.)
I don't care what your reasons are for using linux, I don't give a ____ if you like you os(s?), but this is getting annoying. It's like those people that claim that life has to suck, or things have to be hard to be worth while. It's completely stupid, and it makes them feel better about their wasted time and effort.
Whether it's reading ol' English poetry, scoring with some hot chick out of your league, or using another OS FOR NO REASON! If you want to learn linux, fine, go ahead. I am trying, but I was born too late, I suppose. But, to claim your way as right is stupid.
"Real hackers, whenever remotely possible, do not concern themselves with Windows. Go get Linux. "
This has to be the dumbest statement I have ever read.
Linux is not the end-all be-all of OS's.
Something, soon, will come, and it WILL outshadow linux. Linus may have put together a nifty OS, and an even better method of distributing it (open source), but it's days are numbered by something I don't know about, nor you.
A "real hacker" will use whatever she or he has to to get what they want done done. Winux, BSD, or Be, or any of the others.
"The fact that the these who claim to be "elite" are using a operating system that is the equivalent of a sanitarium with padded walls and crayons for writing letters can be used to prove that these "hackers" are really technically inept."
Wow, your ad hominim attacks are really insightful and helping your position.
"AOL is a terrible company"
Why? You give no reasons, you simply state it. Irregardless of the truth of your statement, you fail to mention busy signals or 4 hour waits for tech support with their clunky program that anyone who's smart enough minimizes and uses netscape or IE over it.
You are not helping your precious Linux. You're being spiteful.
"Software piracy, a.k.a. "warez" is a common activity of these faux "hackers" because it gives them a sense of doing something that is wrong and more importantly, illegal."
God, how dumb are these words?
"Very."
Every pirate does it because they see a need for what the program offers. Entertainment or photo editing.
What you see as rebellion is simply a matter of practicality for most pirates. "Your class requires powerpoint? That sucks, dude, I got a copy."
And if you say it's okay to do it to MS, then I think you prove my point on how you're not helping what you want to help.
"Anarchy files is a simple extension of the need for rebellion. "
No, the files _are_ not simply that. When I peruse a site full of this information, I do it for a reason, not for rebellion. I want to learn, silly.
"Everyone has used computers."
Bzzt. You don't even bother to qualify with almost. I'm dating a person who only used the apple iie's in our school until I got her a computer. Her parents never used one, don't use the one I gave her, and probably won't if I give one to them.
So, your statement is immediately proved wrong. Especially when you want everyone to use computers the way you obviously want them to. You nearly demand that people use Linux, and that's all.
And so, by extention, I wouldn't have used computers, either, because I don't use linux the way you do. I use it, as, hehe, an antique, a blast from the past, if you will.
"Computer viruses. Personally, I think that anyone that has taken the time to learn assembly should write themself a microkernel so they can network their toaster ovens or electric toothbrushes or do something at least semi-productive."
I totally agree. But, writing viruses is an exercise, really. It's learning to use the system to do what you want.
There are no "bad" programs. Bad thoughts, bad intentions, and programs. Sure, some might crash, some might infect and damage, but only through negligence or malicious intent.
"But alas, it appears some insist upon pointlessly annoying innocent computer users."
Don't use "alas" in your writing, it makes you sound silly, unless your doing it for a reason (period piece, etc.) It contributes nothing here but someone trying to write like they are smart (not saying that you aren't, or are for that matter).
"If you meet any two of those conditions (with possible exception to numbers two, four and six) I would immediatly seek out psychiatric help for your immaturity. "
Huh? What numbers are these? What do they refer to? I think you've finally confused me. Gloat while you can, if you think confusing me is good. Writing shouldn't be like that unless it's for a reason, and you seem to want to be clear with what you're saying.
So, finally, I get to write part of my response.
This has nothing to do with computers. This has to do with acceptance of difference and realization that others have different lives.
I don't want to compile a kernal. Sorry.
I'm totally mistified about modules. Sorry.
I hate Windows crashing problem. Sorry.
I can't even figure out how to get out of vi. Sorry.
I want to learn, but I'm busy. Sorry.
All I want is to get by, and do what I love to do. I'm not a nerd, I shouldn't be here. I work on computers, and I blame the problems on Microsoft because they are part of the problem, but I'm only there for the pay check.
That might be scary for you to accept. But there are more people like me that don't live on computers. I've grown up with them. They're like shag carpeting and astroturf. But I know that computers are not all there is.
For me, the computer is merely a means to an end. It's what I write stories and poetry and stupid essays on. It's what I record music with. It's what puts food on the tables of the nicest restaurants.
And that's what's different between people like those that posted this and me. I respect the effort that people like him (it is a him, right?) put into the programs I use every day.
But I'm not like that. And you're not like me. I respect your role. Please, if you can't respect mine, keep your mouth shut.
MTV showing "hackers" is a publicity stunt. They are a company. They cater to those who watch MTV. I don't watch MTV. I don't own a TV (well, one that works, anyhow). MTV is actually a topic of a(n old) rant of mine on my web site, if that's relevent (the CPCC). They are there for the money, they don't care about your thoughts on their accuracy, and they shouldn't. You're not the target market for their advertisors.
But, of course, even if they are linux freaks, and hump their boxen all day in beowulf cluster formation, someone is going to take a position like the author of the message I am responding to.
Either you can respect what they do, or you can't. But please, unless you have some real criticism instead of the dumb flames, keep your hand on the mouse and scroll by.
Thanks for reading.
I can't get to the site (Though I'm on a LAN, the connection sucks, and half the sites on the net are unavailable, so it's pry not their fault), and I left my Bible at home (yes, I do have a copy), so I have to take your word for it.
But he also said "God created me in one day."
"Yeah, looks like he hurried the job."
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Oh yes, every time I feel like life is growing boring, or the tedium of real life is bearing down on me, I listen to him. Amusing.
:-), you should know that a few of his early acts are rehashes of Hicks material, but he gives him credit for it.
:-)
If you listen to any Dennis Leary (not the dead guy, yet.
I've always wanted to do some Hicks stuff for a stand-up performance I want to do. Unfortunatly, the dead guy is more current and funnier than I am.
I used to be an Atheist, but now I believe in Bill Hicks.
thanks for reading
Uhh, It's Funny, Laugh.
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Jeez. I wonder if I need to put humor tags.
You should hear a swipe that Bill takes at atheists, (of which I am one).
"I wonder what Atheists scream when they come instead of God? 'Chemical chance!!!' 'Primordial OOOZE!'"
I know that makes me hot.
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You gotta admit, beliefs are odd.
Some Christians wear crosses around their neck. Do you think, that if he comes back here, he's ever gonna want to see a cross again?
Creationists believe that the earth is 6,000 years old. I ask them how they get that number.
"Well, we take all the people between now and Adam and Eve, add them all together, and it comes to 6,000 years. Roughly."
"Well, how scientific is that? I mean, how can I argue with that. But can I ask you a question? It's a one word question."
"Sure, go ahead."
"You sure?"
"Yep, shoot."
"Dinosaurs?"
"Well, uhh. God put those there to test our faith."
Well, buddy, I think you're here to test my faith.
"Okay, so where are the dinosaurs in the Bible? 'And JESUS and his DICIPLES rounded a corner and there was a giant BRONTOSAURUS. And the deciples ran, but JESUS was unafraid. So he went to the dinosaur, and pluck'd a splinter from his paw. And they became friends, and the dinosaur went to Scotland and lived in a Loch. And hundereds of years later, all the fat American tourists come with their fat dollars. And how the scots did PRAISE the LORD!'"
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Have you ever noticed that people that believe in creationism look really unevolved?
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From http://www.billhicks.com, dead heroes and all that rot.
Well, it's possible more than one person said it and differently.
Not that I'm not wrong, I'm only going by memory.
Later . . .
-- When you can see sex and murder on TV, how important is it to ban the word "piss"? --
Because you mentioned George Carlin in your post, I want to mention something else he said.
"I would rather have my child watching two people making love than two people trying to kill one another." or something like that.
Susan Struthers (I think) said it a little more bluntly "I don't understand why it's worse to show a breast being kissed on TV or the movies, than for it to be hacked off."
I dunno. Turn off the TV, in any case.
I don't have 2 cents, just 3 bucks.
"Unlike the radio where you are a captive audience"
Why? Are you unable to turn your radio off? Do you have to go to the store where the DJ on the piped in station is swearing?
You have choice, to be offended, or not. It's all up to you.
"Unlike the radio where you are a captive audience"
Why? Are you unable to turn your radio off? Do you have to go to the store where the DJ on the piped in station is swearing?
You have choice, to be offended, or not. It's all up to you.
"Learning these things from (say) a hyperlinked set of webpages is not fundamentally different than learning them from a book."
:-)
Of course, theorectially, not.
But, really, it is.
Reading a book, or a single page web site with no links, I am forced into a linear pattern. I must grasp one concept flowing to the next. I must understand a, which comes before b, which are both used to come up with c.
On the net, I click on what I'm interested, Turing Tests or Tennyson, Nodes or Nietzche, you choose, and choose, and ten to one you don't go back. You learn A and jump to N and to T and back to I to Q and U and E.
I don't know which way is better. I mean, on a typical romp on the net I'll learn if my new network card is compatable with BeOS (Yeah! It is, woohoo.) how much money I have in my bank account (doh!), some news pertaining to oppression of my religious beliefs (goddamn national prayer day, I wish I could live in Minnesota), a chunk about a new and coming poet, and end up here on Slashdot, listening to people spout off about Microsoft.
Most of my books don't run the gammet like that. I think it's best to have a few of these things going at once . . . at least, it's best for me.
My problem isn't that I'm too focused, it's that I have too many hobbies.
bye