Do you have any idea how silly, defensive, and whiny that sounds? All OldSport said is that Apple labored mightily and finally pooped out a phone that is barely improved at all from last year's model, with nothing novel added whatsoever. That is patently spot on. It has absolutely nothing to do about hating anything. Only a fanboi would take issue with it.
Your suggestion is intruding in the market and in personal choice. I don't have to justify my objection; it is self-evident. You have to justify your intrusion.
You can guess what you want, you unpleasant name-caller.
I'm not so sure. I strongly suspect that you would have a REALLY difficult time with your insurance company if you they somehow found out you left the key in the ignition of your unlocked car when it was stolen. I have some real suspicion that you would be at risk of contributory fault due to negligence, as well, if the thief used your car in the commission of a crime or civil infraction involving large monetary damage (think "crashes through somebody's living room").
I'll give you a better case. If you live in a state which demands your firearms be stored in a lockup at all times when not in use, I KNOW you would be in BIG, BIG trouble if you left the key in the lock of your gun safe, someone BROKE AND ENTERED, STOLE one of your firearms, and used it in the commission of some crime.
As to not locking your front door, I'll give you that one, but how about this? How if you left the front door standing open? Legally, that removes the breaking from "breaking and entering" because the property is now viewed as "open to enter".
You do understand that the open Wi-Fi WAN side should be the only ethernet entity on its own separate zone behind the main firewall, completely isolated from the main local zone, right? It's really not that much trouble and expense to set it up that way. I don't want even an ENCRYPTED Wi-Fi with excellent WPA password protection and SSID broadcast turned off on my main local zone. It's far too much of a security risk. I know it's a nuisance, but that's life. If I want to copy wireless to wireless or wireless to local ethernet, I can hook the wireless end(s) up on ethernet for that purpose, or use a USB stick, or some other workaround.
I know you can also play games with the netmask on the WAN side of the wireless router to make sure it can only reach the default gateway and not the rest of the local zone, but any primary wired router I use is going to have two zones of its own anyway, so might as well do it right.
Finally as to the [HORROR - IT'S THE BOOGEYMAN] child porn / terrorism concern - actually, having open Wi-Fi instead of secured Wi-Fi is your best defense (always assuming you are in actuality not guilty). It means the prosecution cannot make an effective case that the offender must have been you if you point out that the Wi-Fi is open. If it is secured, they have a better chance of making the case, if someone does succeed in hacking into it. It's balance of risks. No strategy is 100% safe in today's climate.
Really? A string consisting of solely base-10 numerals? That's not a very effective password in terms of strength per character. Mixed upper and lower case letters plus base-10 numerals allows fewer characters to implement a specified strength.
12345678 represents a search space of only 1.11 x 10^8 aB3456yz represents a search space of 2.22 x 10^14 - two million times larger
Literally no one in recorded history has ever been killed by a meteorite.
I think you might want to check your facts. Here is a partial list of human deaths due to meteorite impact: 1929, Zvezvan, Yugoslavia, 1 killed 1907, Weng-li, China, entire family killed 1879, Dun-Lepoelier, France, 1 killed 1879, Newtown, Indiana, USA, 1 killed 1874, Ming Tung li, China, 1 killed 1825, Oriang, India, 1 killed 1790, France, 1 killed 1511 Cremona, Italy, 1 killed
XFS is nothing but a complicated way to corrupt your data. You can lose a whole RAID5 in a heartbeat, and I HAVE. Nobody should use XFS for anything. There is no excuse for it to even exist.
Singularly unconvincing points. Rich options can be "simplified" my just adding an "Advanced" button in the config UI. You don't even see most of the options until you hit "Advanced". End of THAT objection, PERIOD. And end of the duplicate of that objection, which you call "increases complexity of the UI". Poof. These are not real problems. This is not rocket science.
Granted, added code to maintain is a given. Does that mean there should be no options whatsoever? Any bugs which crop up AFTER an option is implemented are regressions, and almost certainly can be worked around, because one or the other of the two paths is still going to work. They are unlikely to be critical problems.
I'll add one myself. With Xfce 4.10 I can now make desktop launchers work with single click; Thunar file manager "always" allowed single click mode - but how the HECK do I get panel launchers to work in single click mode?
Upstream (the hat that is red) drops software enhancements and some of the new hardware enablement in the middle of year 6, drops minor releases and all new hardware enablement in the middle of year 7, and drops essentially (but not QUITE) everything at the beginning of year 10 - notable security fixes and bug fixes. It is unlikely in the extreme that any downstream guy is going to step up to fill in the voids. They never have so far with RHEL 6.
So it depends on what you are relying on. I chose the middle-of-year-7 crippling as the operative cutoff point most users will key on, though yes, some will want to hang on until year 10 since they are still getting security fixes. Though three years with no hardware enablement is going to turn off the enthusiast.
Even 7 years is still pretty damn good, though not as long as the anomaly that is XP, and even 10 years won't match XP's 13.
As a "rogue programmer who forces everybody to use the software the same way that I use it", I also have a complaint from my side of the story. Every time I make a UI change that I believe makes the software easier to use, you complain that you can't keep doing things exactly the way you have been doing. And it's true, you often can't; but the other side of this complaint is stagnation.
All right; I dig the willingness to communicate, and am prepared to contribute my two cents.
I think you know EXACTLY why your complaint rings completely hollow to a user. Add your UI change AS AN OPTION. If it catches on, fine; that means you were right. If it doesn't, fine; that means you were WRONG. Actually, no matter what, it will catch on with SOME subset of users, and not with others, and both groups can remain happy. Everybody is happy. You are happy, those who follow your lead are happy, and those who reject your lead are happy.
Finally, with this stagnation thing. First, it won't happen if you offer changes that are optional. But far more important, where you see stagnation, others see STABILITY. Cars use the same old round steering wheel at an angle in front of the driver decade after decade. Same clutch pedal if any on the left (I THINK that's right, it's been a LONG time), same brake pedal next, and same accelerator pedal on the right. The blinker stalk is almost always on the left, down for left turn, up for right turn. Windshield wiper stalk on the right. Glove compartment almost always in exactly the same place. There is ZERO reason to EVER change any of this.
Did you bother trying the current latest version of Xfce? I did and I was amazed. Steady progress. I don't think it lacks anything of significance now. There are some applets that aren't quite as mature and well developed, and maybe one or two that are missing, but that's it.
I was a GNOME 2 fan as well; still am as a matter of fact, but I would be happy with Xfce when GNOME 2 is no longer an option (and maybe before that given its steady and rapid and evolution in unerringly the right direction).
Perhaps it would be helpful if you could say what stopped you from liking Xfce.
Agreed, Xfce on anything is the one to beat now. It's time we all switched gears and started trying to list significant missing features and capabilities in Xfce so they can be added, rather than trying to fix brain dead DE abortions. I don't think there's very much missing from the latest version of Xfce (NOT the outdated version shipping with the spring release of Fedora and Ubuntu).
The number is what it is. Sorry if it's not trivial to comprehend the number. That's not the writer/speaker's job. It's the reader/listener's job. It's a fair amount of work to do so, but really not that much. It's character building. I doubt if the brain has to spend more than a tiny fraction of a teaspoon of glucose and maybe a few thimblefuls of oxygen to work out a way to visualize it.
I think you and I buying cars because we like the way they look and feel to (and work for) US, not because of the way they look and speak to OTHERS, are actually in the minority.
The iPhone (and other Apple stuff) appeal is also a very strong snob/fad/peer-pressure thing. Not to us, but to most.
Gee. Isn't life tough. As I remember from eons ago, Windows is AT LEAST as wrenching. If you're REALLY serious about stability, reliability and freedom from bloat a la systemd, udev, plymouth, la de da, and are willing to invest time up front in return for that continuing stability, allow me to suggest trying out FreeBSD or its desktop friendly derivative, PC-BSD. This would require some real dedication to learn the idiosyncracies. Just to clear one thing up, FreeBSD isn't rocket science to install a DE on. I was doing it a decade ago without much trouble. It doesn't hold your hand and automate everything like PC-BSD does, though.
If you mostly just want a linux desktop that doesn't put you through effing with big changes every year to stay supported, you could do what I did. Install Redhat Enterprise 6 or any of its free derivatives (notably CentOS, Scientific Linux, PUIAS Linux). That way you're good to stay on the same major release, fully supported, hardware-and-feature-back-ported, bug-fixed, and security-updated with good old GNOME 2.32 to at least 2017. I'm a little worried about what RHEL 7's default desktop will look like when it rolls out maybe some time during 2014, but I'm very confident you'll just be able to choose Xfce (as you can now in 6), and anyway there's really no need to make the jump from 6 to 7 until 2017.
Er, the shebang trick you are looking for is "#!/usr/bin/env bash", and it has been there for like forever. There might be an awful lot of scripts to comb through and fix, because nobody is in the habit of doing shell scripts that way. It's frequently seen in python scripts.
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Yeah, riiiiiight. Keep telling yourself that.
Do you have any idea how silly, defensive, and whiny that sounds? All OldSport said is that Apple labored mightily and finally pooped out a phone that is barely improved at all from last year's model, with nothing novel added whatsoever. That is patently spot on. It has absolutely nothing to do about hating anything. Only a fanboi would take issue with it.
Your suggestion is intruding in the market and in personal choice. I don't have to justify my objection; it is self-evident. You have to justify your intrusion.
You can guess what you want, you unpleasant name-caller.
I move that everybody disregard your recommendation, which is an intrusion for which you offer no justification.
I'm not so sure. I strongly suspect that you would have a REALLY difficult time with your insurance company if you they somehow found out you left the key in the ignition of your unlocked car when it was stolen. I have some real suspicion that you would be at risk of contributory fault due to negligence, as well, if the thief used your car in the commission of a crime or civil infraction involving large monetary damage (think "crashes through somebody's living room").
I'll give you a better case. If you live in a state which demands your firearms be stored in a lockup at all times when not in use, I KNOW you would be in BIG, BIG trouble if you left the key in the lock of your gun safe, someone BROKE AND ENTERED, STOLE one of your firearms, and used it in the commission of some crime.
As to not locking your front door, I'll give you that one, but how about this? How if you left the front door standing open? Legally, that removes the breaking from "breaking and entering" because the property is now viewed as "open to enter".
You do understand that the open Wi-Fi WAN side should be the only ethernet entity on its own separate zone behind the main firewall, completely isolated from the main local zone, right? It's really not that much trouble and expense to set it up that way. I don't want even an ENCRYPTED Wi-Fi with excellent WPA password protection and SSID broadcast turned off on my main local zone. It's far too much of a security risk. I know it's a nuisance, but that's life. If I want to copy wireless to wireless or wireless to local ethernet, I can hook the wireless end(s) up on ethernet for that purpose, or use a USB stick, or some other workaround.
I know you can also play games with the netmask on the WAN side of the wireless router to make sure it can only reach the default gateway and not the rest of the local zone, but any primary wired router I use is going to have two zones of its own anyway, so might as well do it right.
Finally as to the [HORROR - IT'S THE BOOGEYMAN] child porn / terrorism concern - actually, having open Wi-Fi instead of secured Wi-Fi is your best defense (always assuming you are in actuality not guilty). It means the prosecution cannot make an effective case that the offender must have been you if you point out that the Wi-Fi is open. If it is secured, they have a better chance of making the case, if someone does succeed in hacking into it. It's balance of risks. No strategy is 100% safe in today's climate.
Pretty high, actually, if you put much stock in my evaluation of their general prowess.
Really? A string consisting of solely base-10 numerals? That's not a very effective password in terms of strength per character. Mixed upper and lower case letters plus base-10 numerals allows fewer characters to implement a specified strength.
12345678 represents a search space of only 1.11 x 10^8
aB3456yz represents a search space of 2.22 x 10^14 - two million times larger
That's not really a privacy bit. It's an encryption flag. I say this knowing that it's called the "Privacy bit". /quibble
I think you might want to check your facts. Here is a partial list of human deaths due to meteorite impact:
1929, Zvezvan, Yugoslavia, 1 killed
1907, Weng-li, China, entire family killed
1879, Dun-Lepoelier, France, 1 killed
1879, Newtown, Indiana, USA, 1 killed
1874, Ming Tung li, China, 1 killed
1825, Oriang, India, 1 killed
1790, France, 1 killed
1511 Cremona, Italy, 1 killed
Yeah, it's pretty rare.
XFS is nothing but a complicated way to corrupt your data. You can lose a whole RAID5 in a heartbeat, and I HAVE. Nobody should use XFS for anything. There is no excuse for it to even exist.
Singularly unconvincing points. Rich options can be "simplified" my just adding an "Advanced" button in the config UI. You don't even see most of the options until you hit "Advanced". End of THAT objection, PERIOD. And end of the duplicate of that objection, which you call "increases complexity of the UI". Poof. These are not real problems. This is not rocket science.
Granted, added code to maintain is a given. Does that mean there should be no options whatsoever? Any bugs which crop up AFTER an option is implemented are regressions, and almost certainly can be worked around, because one or the other of the two paths is still going to work. They are unlikely to be critical problems.
I'll add one myself. With Xfce 4.10 I can now make desktop launchers work with single click; Thunar file manager "always" allowed single click mode - but how the HECK do I get panel launchers to work in single click mode?
Upstream (the hat that is red) drops software enhancements and some of the new hardware enablement in the middle of year 6, drops minor releases and all new hardware enablement in the middle of year 7, and drops essentially (but not QUITE) everything at the beginning of year 10 - notable security fixes and bug fixes. It is unlikely in the extreme that any downstream guy is going to step up to fill in the voids. They never have so far with RHEL 6.
So it depends on what you are relying on. I chose the middle-of-year-7 crippling as the operative cutoff point most users will key on, though yes, some will want to hang on until year 10 since they are still getting security fixes. Though three years with no hardware enablement is going to turn off the enthusiast.
Even 7 years is still pretty damn good, though not as long as the anomaly that is XP, and even 10 years won't match XP's 13.
All right; I dig the willingness to communicate, and am prepared to contribute my two cents.
I think you know EXACTLY why your complaint rings completely hollow to a user. Add your UI change AS AN OPTION. If it catches on, fine; that means you were right. If it doesn't, fine; that means you were WRONG. Actually, no matter what, it will catch on with SOME subset of users, and not with others, and both groups can remain happy. Everybody is happy. You are happy, those who follow your lead are happy, and those who reject your lead are happy.
Finally, with this stagnation thing. First, it won't happen if you offer changes that are optional. But far more important, where you see stagnation, others see STABILITY. Cars use the same old round steering wheel at an angle in front of the driver decade after decade. Same clutch pedal if any on the left (I THINK that's right, it's been a LONG time), same brake pedal next, and same accelerator pedal on the right. The blinker stalk is almost always on the left, down for left turn, up for right turn. Windshield wiper stalk on the right. Glove compartment almost always in exactly the same place. There is ZERO reason to EVER change any of this.
I think some are trolls, some are hip trendsters, and some are just stupid.
And not wasting ENERGY on useless fluff.
Did you bother trying the current latest version of Xfce? I did and I was amazed. Steady progress. I don't think it lacks anything of significance now. There are some applets that aren't quite as mature and well developed, and maybe one or two that are missing, but that's it.
I was a GNOME 2 fan as well; still am as a matter of fact, but I would be happy with Xfce when GNOME 2 is no longer an option (and maybe before that given its steady and rapid and evolution in unerringly the right direction).
Perhaps it would be helpful if you could say what stopped you from liking Xfce.
No. Tell them to stuff it. They are irrelevant. Switch to Xfce.
Agreed, Xfce on anything is the one to beat now. It's time we all switched gears and started trying to list significant missing features and capabilities in Xfce so they can be added, rather than trying to fix brain dead DE abortions. I don't think there's very much missing from the latest version of Xfce (NOT the outdated version shipping with the spring release of Fedora and Ubuntu).
The number is what it is. Sorry if it's not trivial to comprehend the number. That's not the writer/speaker's job. It's the reader/listener's job. It's a fair amount of work to do so, but really not that much. It's character building. I doubt if the brain has to spend more than a tiny fraction of a teaspoon of glucose and maybe a few thimblefuls of oxygen to work out a way to visualize it.
I think you and I buying cars because we like the way they look and feel to (and work for) US, not because of the way they look and speak to OTHERS, are actually in the minority.
The iPhone (and other Apple stuff) appeal is also a very strong snob/fad/peer-pressure thing. Not to us, but to most.
Gee. Isn't life tough. As I remember from eons ago, Windows is AT LEAST as wrenching. If you're REALLY serious about stability, reliability and freedom from bloat a la systemd, udev, plymouth, la de da, and are willing to invest time up front in return for that continuing stability, allow me to suggest trying out FreeBSD or its desktop friendly derivative, PC-BSD. This would require some real dedication to learn the idiosyncracies. Just to clear one thing up, FreeBSD isn't rocket science to install a DE on. I was doing it a decade ago without much trouble. It doesn't hold your hand and automate everything like PC-BSD does, though.
If you mostly just want a linux desktop that doesn't put you through effing with big changes every year to stay supported, you could do what I did. Install Redhat Enterprise 6 or any of its free derivatives (notably CentOS, Scientific Linux, PUIAS Linux). That way you're good to stay on the same major release, fully supported, hardware-and-feature-back-ported, bug-fixed, and security-updated with good old GNOME 2.32 to at least 2017. I'm a little worried about what RHEL 7's default desktop will look like when it rolls out maybe some time during 2014, but I'm very confident you'll just be able to choose Xfce (as you can now in 6), and anyway there's really no need to make the jump from 6 to 7 until 2017.
Er, the shebang trick you are looking for is "#!/usr/bin/env bash", and it has been there for like forever. There might be an awful lot of scripts to comb through and fix, because nobody is in the habit of doing shell scripts that way. It's frequently seen in python scripts.
Utter nonsense. That's not civil disobedience. That's defying institutional tyranny and evil. That's intervention against mass murder.