It isn't legitimate since the results only matter if you are in the exact same location that the tests are conducted. It is legitimate to them alone and irrelevant to everyone else reading their results.
No, it is about maintaining a positive user experience for its customers. You say this is against the consumer. You are 100% wrong. This is what the consumer wants. This isn't what the Slashdot groupthink likes. But the vast majority of in game players do not want cheating in their game and are happy with the lengths that Blizzard goes to to protect the game from them. So don't speak for the consumers, because you don't know what you are talking about.
Another stupid analogy when none is needed. Glider isn't some general purpose tool...it is a tool specifically for botting in WoW. People have varying degrees of toleration of cheating in games. The bar is set very high in MMOs since people like to compete and want a fair playing ground. Glider causes people to quit the game, provides service for an entity that does not require rest using resources that could be used on non-EULA breakers, and can cause its users to be banned from the game. Your analogy fails because VMWare isn't causing harm, it is actually something that might get more people to buy Vista.
Worst analogy I have ever seen modded up. There is nothing in being a judge that prevents you or tells you not to play WoW. And I bet you in 10 million muslims, you will find a few of them that eat pork because not all of them will be that strict. When numbers get big enough, the improbable with become probable. And judges playing WoW isn't even improbable. In short, you are an idiot.
I think you might be insane. The guy basically said as a hardcore player, his OPINION was that it was made too easy. And that makes sense, if you play a lot, you can get through all the content pretty fast and it isn't much of a challenge.
Your response on the other hand is full of insults and stupid WoW forum abbreviations. This is Slashdot. You come off as a pre-pubescent retard with your QQs. Then you try to compare your virtual dick size by saying how long you played. How is that even relevant to his comment? It doesn't matter at all how long he has played. Then you, someone who says you have played WoW for so long, start telling HIM to take a shower and are stereotyping him? You are just a complete moron. You insult him for playing and then brag about how much you play. You need to lay off the drugs or get some counseling.
I play for two soccer teams, an orchestra, have a full time job, and a girl friend I spend time with on the week and almost all of the weekend who does not game. I had no problem making it to 80, have all the pre-raid purples (i.e. all rep and heroic epics), and am able to raid. I don't do naxx, but I can do the others. The game is extremely casual friendly. You either haven't played WotLK or just have some sort of strange bias. Leveling content is interesting and there is a lot more of it than you need to get to 80...thus I can understand why someone would say it is in there for casuals because the hardcore would just skip it as soon as they hit 80.
Arenas are as casual or non-casual as you want them to be. If you want to be the best there is, you are going to have to put time in to it....but that is true of any online game.
WotLK makes running Heroics much faster by giving you just a few trash pulls so you get to the bosses faster. Most are run under an hour. While you run them, you wear a tabard that gives you rep for whoever you want so you are also working towards that goal. They are balancing rewards with effort it takes to get things and I think they have done an incredible job so that I can be geared the way I am and still have a full life (hell, I bet my life is fuller than yours).
You don't like WoW. That is 100% fine. Just don't play. But don't spout off a bunch of crap that isn't true like your definition of a casual. WoW is the most polished, casual friendly MMORPG ever created.
I just had to see what you quoted to know this was going to be an Eve online post. Yeah, it is nice to know that if your friend plays Eve, he is on the same server. Even just isn't fun for the majority of people because the PvE is lacking and the PvP requires you to be a bit more hard core. That and the single shard means that the whole game is spoiled from dev cheating in the past.
What he is saying though...is that you probably know someone who plays WoW...thus making it more likely you would want to join so you can play with them.
No, it has to be "free". The game just barely came out. They said they had to delay some content because it wasn't ready. The game still lacked a lot of polish when it came out. If they charged from this it would be too soon. If they waited until it wouldn't be too soon a lot of people would be irate that the stuff should have been in the game wasn't there.
Yes, you have no idea what you are talking about. WotK is mainly for casuals. Even the raid content has a lot of causals (one raid takes about 20 minutes). Heroics are casual friendly. You can wear tabards that give you reputation when you run heroics which makes reputation a lot more casual. All of the question content you can do alone is for casuals. I could go on and on.
MMORPGs are a different model than a typical video game. Does Crysis have admins on 24/7? Do they update content constantly? Do they have to run a huge server farm to host the game? Do they have people hired for balancing still working on the game? Do they have developers still working on the game? No. MMOs are not a video game. Your argument is so stupid it hurts. 10 million people think paying ~15 a month is reasonable for the amount of fun they get out of it. Taking my girl friend to a movie costs me $20 now and I only get 90 minutes out of it. It's fine if it isn't for you. Don't play it. But do us a favor and shut up about it. Your opinions aren't based on facts or reality.
I don't think sticking blocks certain places is all that complex. The only decision in tetris is should you wait for that straight line to come down or is it getting too high so that you need to start removing some lines so you don't risk losing. It is very simple, then they just make it faster to make it more difficult. You can say anything is similar to something if you simplify it enough. But really, you are comparing a bike to a motorcycle. Not saying it is more or less fun, just that there is a heck of a lot more strategy and theory in starcraft than there is in tetris.
Ahem, this is untrue. The zerg could capture Terran command centers thus creating zerg human hybrids that you could run in to enemy units and blow themselves up. I think the grand parent was thinking of Command and Conquer though, where taking over buildings was possible.
We have an national electrical infrastructure where we can plug in all kinds of different sources. They could be coal, but they could be renewable resources like solar, winds, tides, etc. It is a lot easier to have electric cars and then upgrade the efficiency of our electrical systems than to create a whole new infrastructure like something like hydrogen would require.
Also, electrical cars require less moving parts and are easier to manufacture allowing it to be much easier for new companies to break in to the market.
I guess I am smart enough when I read these things to know that people want to know if it is a positive or negative influence and to what degree. I don't think anyone is claiming that they are unaffected...they are claiming they aren't adversely affected. It is implied that when you say something has no affect on you, you mean it didn't alter you significantly. If you saw your mom die, it would affect you. If you saw some random person fake die on TV, it isn't going to affect you. Oh, it might make you a little sad or something, but you aren't going to hold a funeral for the tv character and wear black for a week (unless you are stupid).
People want to say video games alter people to the point where they are normal one day and killers the next. So to that we say we have played them all our lives and it has no affect on us. Obviously, it has some small affect, but not a significant one in the context we are talking about. So I find it completely appropriate to say it has no affect on us.
And to back seat, psycho-analyze you back...you somehow think you are better and more observant than others because you want to think other people are saying all these things don't affect them at all when really you lack contextual reading comprehension skills. In other words, you are being immature and arrogant because you think you know better than everyone else.
Then he (and you) are also saying that it is (much!) easier to hack in to a Linux box then a Windows box. The client should only be allowed certain information. The server should be checking of things that should not be possible are occurring. Like you said, closed source FPS's are going to be hacked too by REing the network traffic. Yet these games still have anti-cheat measures because they know this is occurring. Is it possible to have 100% cheat free FPS's? Maybe, but it would cost way too much money. But this game just sounds sloppy and I reject the idea that it can't do cheat prevention because it is open source.
After reading your post, and then your complaint about your post...and falling asleep a few times in between...I agree, I don't think your first post should be modded flamebait. But whining about moderation is fairly pointless. I would have modded both your posts "-1, Get To The Point Faster". The funny thing is you don't really add anything new or insightful. You just say the same thing other Slashdotters say with a lot more words.
I know a ton of people who use marijuana on a regular basis who also show up for work consistently, do an excellent job, work overtime and then some. So, um, wanna come up with an argument against that?
I've seen people sling around the same old tired arguments against pot since was 16 and first learning about it and trying it, back in the mid '70s. Problem is, not enough people have tried it. Most people who are against pot talk out of their asses without a lick of experience.
I worry more about the stuff that isn't unintentional. For example, Rush Limbaugh isn't trying to find common ground and compromise. He is trying to divide people and in the process, make profit from it. That's pretty sick...but that is the world we live in right now.
You are on Slashdot claiming that? Turn in your UID. You essentially just said that we can't use Linux any more since everyone can hack us because it is open source.
There is a difference between open source and secure. You don't seem to understand that they aren't the opposite. There can be both secure and insecure open source. It sounds like this is just done poorly. People don't want to play a game where everyone is cheating.
Do you really have to ask such a dumb question? It isn't even really true since P.E. and sports are being cut in a lot of areas as well. Our children are becoming obese. We need them to get exercise for them to be healthy. They aren't playing in the NFL. Is their risk? Yes! But there is risk stepping outside of your house. Obviously, we should have funding for arts and sciences as well, but cutting out major forms of exercise is not the answer.
And if you are referring to college, because their sports teams actually make money and draw more students to their campus. I don't know about you, but I don't see the results of Chemistry 101 in the Rose Bowl.
You are basing your hypothesis that we are going to have an ice age based on one point of data that may or may not be related to the past ice age. It is probably more complex. And I think the thermostat applied to the sun would always read: Really Fucking Hot.
Oh lord. Yes, ethanol made from corn is a waste. No argument there. But your argument for global warming is stupid and short sighted. It sounds like something you would hear on some stupid partisan radio show.
You can't really farm land that is under water, that will cut in to your 25%. How much land that was arable land will now be too hot? That cuts in to your 25%. How many other million little surprises are there associated with this that we don't know about will make your figures complete bullshit? A whole lot.
Fact is we don't know what is going to happen. I am not saying we have to take drastic measures, but I don't think it would hurt to try to conserve a little better.
The truth is there are too many arrogant people like you out there who think they know what they are talking about. People are enamored by people who sound like they know what they are talking about. Whether it be fear like global warming alarmists or over-confidence from global warming nay-sayers. We don't know the future but there is decent science out there that says it might be a good idea to conserve a little better. Is that so awful?
If you are poor, desperate, hungry...you are going to try to take what little pleasure you can in life. One way of doing that is having sex. These people aren't consciously deciding to have children. They are just having sex which is a natural biological need. You are condemning people who lack education and understanding. Even in educated societies people have unwanted children. You expect uneducated, third world countries to do better?
Your post disgusts me. It just shows a complete lack of understanding and compassion. Why don't you try traveling outside of your happy little world and see the reality that is out there? There are people suffering. In a sense, they are like children. They don't know any better. You judging them isn't going to help. It just makes you feel better about yourself for doing nothing. Your attitude is "They did this to themselves, so screw em."
We are all human beings. We have had the incredible luck to be born somewhere where our lives are extremely good. These other people weren't so lucky. I am not saying you have to do anything about it...but for fuck's sake, show a little gratitude for how lucky you are and stop condemning people you have never come in to contact with.
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It isn't legitimate since the results only matter if you are in the exact same location that the tests are conducted. It is legitimate to them alone and irrelevant to everyone else reading their results.
People have and do risk it. Just none have been very compelling or good.
No, it is about maintaining a positive user experience for its customers. You say this is against the consumer. You are 100% wrong. This is what the consumer wants. This isn't what the Slashdot groupthink likes. But the vast majority of in game players do not want cheating in their game and are happy with the lengths that Blizzard goes to to protect the game from them. So don't speak for the consumers, because you don't know what you are talking about.
Another stupid analogy when none is needed. Glider isn't some general purpose tool...it is a tool specifically for botting in WoW. People have varying degrees of toleration of cheating in games. The bar is set very high in MMOs since people like to compete and want a fair playing ground. Glider causes people to quit the game, provides service for an entity that does not require rest using resources that could be used on non-EULA breakers, and can cause its users to be banned from the game. Your analogy fails because VMWare isn't causing harm, it is actually something that might get more people to buy Vista.
Worst analogy I have ever seen modded up. There is nothing in being a judge that prevents you or tells you not to play WoW. And I bet you in 10 million muslims, you will find a few of them that eat pork because not all of them will be that strict. When numbers get big enough, the improbable with become probable. And judges playing WoW isn't even improbable. In short, you are an idiot.
I think you might be insane. The guy basically said as a hardcore player, his OPINION was that it was made too easy. And that makes sense, if you play a lot, you can get through all the content pretty fast and it isn't much of a challenge.
Your response on the other hand is full of insults and stupid WoW forum abbreviations. This is Slashdot. You come off as a pre-pubescent retard with your QQs. Then you try to compare your virtual dick size by saying how long you played. How is that even relevant to his comment? It doesn't matter at all how long he has played. Then you, someone who says you have played WoW for so long, start telling HIM to take a shower and are stereotyping him? You are just a complete moron. You insult him for playing and then brag about how much you play. You need to lay off the drugs or get some counseling.
I play for two soccer teams, an orchestra, have a full time job, and a girl friend I spend time with on the week and almost all of the weekend who does not game. I had no problem making it to 80, have all the pre-raid purples (i.e. all rep and heroic epics), and am able to raid. I don't do naxx, but I can do the others. The game is extremely casual friendly. You either haven't played WotLK or just have some sort of strange bias. Leveling content is interesting and there is a lot more of it than you need to get to 80...thus I can understand why someone would say it is in there for casuals because the hardcore would just skip it as soon as they hit 80.
Arenas are as casual or non-casual as you want them to be. If you want to be the best there is, you are going to have to put time in to it....but that is true of any online game.
WotLK makes running Heroics much faster by giving you just a few trash pulls so you get to the bosses faster. Most are run under an hour. While you run them, you wear a tabard that gives you rep for whoever you want so you are also working towards that goal. They are balancing rewards with effort it takes to get things and I think they have done an incredible job so that I can be geared the way I am and still have a full life (hell, I bet my life is fuller than yours).
You don't like WoW. That is 100% fine. Just don't play. But don't spout off a bunch of crap that isn't true like your definition of a casual. WoW is the most polished, casual friendly MMORPG ever created.
I just had to see what you quoted to know this was going to be an Eve online post. Yeah, it is nice to know that if your friend plays Eve, he is on the same server. Even just isn't fun for the majority of people because the PvE is lacking and the PvP requires you to be a bit more hard core. That and the single shard means that the whole game is spoiled from dev cheating in the past.
What he is saying though...is that you probably know someone who plays WoW...thus making it more likely you would want to join so you can play with them.
No, it has to be "free". The game just barely came out. They said they had to delay some content because it wasn't ready. The game still lacked a lot of polish when it came out. If they charged from this it would be too soon. If they waited until it wouldn't be too soon a lot of people would be irate that the stuff should have been in the game wasn't there.
Yes, you have no idea what you are talking about. WotK is mainly for casuals. Even the raid content has a lot of causals (one raid takes about 20 minutes). Heroics are casual friendly. You can wear tabards that give you reputation when you run heroics which makes reputation a lot more casual. All of the question content you can do alone is for casuals. I could go on and on.
MMORPGs are a different model than a typical video game. Does Crysis have admins on 24/7? Do they update content constantly? Do they have to run a huge server farm to host the game? Do they have people hired for balancing still working on the game? Do they have developers still working on the game? No. MMOs are not a video game. Your argument is so stupid it hurts. 10 million people think paying ~15 a month is reasonable for the amount of fun they get out of it. Taking my girl friend to a movie costs me $20 now and I only get 90 minutes out of it. It's fine if it isn't for you. Don't play it. But do us a favor and shut up about it. Your opinions aren't based on facts or reality.
I don't think sticking blocks certain places is all that complex. The only decision in tetris is should you wait for that straight line to come down or is it getting too high so that you need to start removing some lines so you don't risk losing. It is very simple, then they just make it faster to make it more difficult. You can say anything is similar to something if you simplify it enough. But really, you are comparing a bike to a motorcycle. Not saying it is more or less fun, just that there is a heck of a lot more strategy and theory in starcraft than there is in tetris.
Ahem, this is untrue. The zerg could capture Terran command centers thus creating zerg human hybrids that you could run in to enemy units and blow themselves up. I think the grand parent was thinking of Command and Conquer though, where taking over buildings was possible.
We have an national electrical infrastructure where we can plug in all kinds of different sources. They could be coal, but they could be renewable resources like solar, winds, tides, etc. It is a lot easier to have electric cars and then upgrade the efficiency of our electrical systems than to create a whole new infrastructure like something like hydrogen would require.
Also, electrical cars require less moving parts and are easier to manufacture allowing it to be much easier for new companies to break in to the market.
So yes, bring on the electric car.
I guess I am smart enough when I read these things to know that people want to know if it is a positive or negative influence and to what degree. I don't think anyone is claiming that they are unaffected...they are claiming they aren't adversely affected. It is implied that when you say something has no affect on you, you mean it didn't alter you significantly. If you saw your mom die, it would affect you. If you saw some random person fake die on TV, it isn't going to affect you. Oh, it might make you a little sad or something, but you aren't going to hold a funeral for the tv character and wear black for a week (unless you are stupid).
People want to say video games alter people to the point where they are normal one day and killers the next. So to that we say we have played them all our lives and it has no affect on us. Obviously, it has some small affect, but not a significant one in the context we are talking about. So I find it completely appropriate to say it has no affect on us.
And to back seat, psycho-analyze you back...you somehow think you are better and more observant than others because you want to think other people are saying all these things don't affect them at all when really you lack contextual reading comprehension skills. In other words, you are being immature and arrogant because you think you know better than everyone else.
Then he (and you) are also saying that it is (much!) easier to hack in to a Linux box then a Windows box. The client should only be allowed certain information. The server should be checking of things that should not be possible are occurring. Like you said, closed source FPS's are going to be hacked too by REing the network traffic. Yet these games still have anti-cheat measures because they know this is occurring. Is it possible to have 100% cheat free FPS's? Maybe, but it would cost way too much money. But this game just sounds sloppy and I reject the idea that it can't do cheat prevention because it is open source.
After reading your post, and then your complaint about your post...and falling asleep a few times in between...I agree, I don't think your first post should be modded flamebait. But whining about moderation is fairly pointless. I would have modded both your posts "-1, Get To The Point Faster". The funny thing is you don't really add anything new or insightful. You just say the same thing other Slashdotters say with a lot more words.
I know a ton of people who use marijuana on a regular basis who also show up for work consistently, do an excellent job, work overtime and then some. So, um, wanna come up with an argument against that?
I've seen people sling around the same old tired arguments against pot since was 16 and first learning about it and trying it, back in the mid '70s. Problem is, not enough people have tried it. Most people who are against pot talk out of their asses without a lick of experience.
Whoa, you can lick it?
Umm...see Tobacco.
I worry more about the stuff that isn't unintentional. For example, Rush Limbaugh isn't trying to find common ground and compromise. He is trying to divide people and in the process, make profit from it. That's pretty sick...but that is the world we live in right now.
You are on Slashdot claiming that? Turn in your UID. You essentially just said that we can't use Linux any more since everyone can hack us because it is open source.
There is a difference between open source and secure. You don't seem to understand that they aren't the opposite. There can be both secure and insecure open source. It sounds like this is just done poorly. People don't want to play a game where everyone is cheating.
Do you really have to ask such a dumb question? It isn't even really true since P.E. and sports are being cut in a lot of areas as well. Our children are becoming obese. We need them to get exercise for them to be healthy. They aren't playing in the NFL. Is their risk? Yes! But there is risk stepping outside of your house. Obviously, we should have funding for arts and sciences as well, but cutting out major forms of exercise is not the answer.
And if you are referring to college, because their sports teams actually make money and draw more students to their campus. I don't know about you, but I don't see the results of Chemistry 101 in the Rose Bowl.
So, to begin with, how is it violent?
Umm, maybe because it depicts violence?
You are basing your hypothesis that we are going to have an ice age based on one point of data that may or may not be related to the past ice age. It is probably more complex. And I think the thermostat applied to the sun would always read: Really Fucking Hot.
Oh lord. Yes, ethanol made from corn is a waste. No argument there. But your argument for global warming is stupid and short sighted. It sounds like something you would hear on some stupid partisan radio show.
You can't really farm land that is under water, that will cut in to your 25%. How much land that was arable land will now be too hot? That cuts in to your 25%. How many other million little surprises are there associated with this that we don't know about will make your figures complete bullshit? A whole lot.
Fact is we don't know what is going to happen. I am not saying we have to take drastic measures, but I don't think it would hurt to try to conserve a little better.
The truth is there are too many arrogant people like you out there who think they know what they are talking about. People are enamored by people who sound like they know what they are talking about. Whether it be fear like global warming alarmists or over-confidence from global warming nay-sayers. We don't know the future but there is decent science out there that says it might be a good idea to conserve a little better. Is that so awful?
If you are poor, desperate, hungry...you are going to try to take what little pleasure you can in life. One way of doing that is having sex. These people aren't consciously deciding to have children. They are just having sex which is a natural biological need. You are condemning people who lack education and understanding. Even in educated societies people have unwanted children. You expect uneducated, third world countries to do better?
Your post disgusts me. It just shows a complete lack of understanding and compassion. Why don't you try traveling outside of your happy little world and see the reality that is out there? There are people suffering. In a sense, they are like children. They don't know any better. You judging them isn't going to help. It just makes you feel better about yourself for doing nothing. Your attitude is "They did this to themselves, so screw em."
We are all human beings. We have had the incredible luck to be born somewhere where our lives are extremely good. These other people weren't so lucky. I am not saying you have to do anything about it...but for fuck's sake, show a little gratitude for how lucky you are and stop condemning people you have never come in to contact with.