But when you are doing them to get to 80, it isn't really grinding since it is the first time you played them and they are interesting. If you don't like what happens after 80, then quit. And don't bother whining about it because no one cares. Obviously they like it and you aren't going to change that.
Why would you think it would matter if someone gave a negative review on here? All the people who are griping are griping about minor stupid stuff that will be addressed in patches very soon. The core parts of the expansion are strong. They always fill out the rest over time. It is like finding a chunk of gold and then complaining it isn't very shiny yet. You know it is going to be polished...so relax.
So maybe you should work on another achievement rather than complaining about it on Slashdot? Of all the things to complain about, this has to be the most ridiculous I have ever read.
The core of the game is fun. To us who have been playing for a long time, the new content is great. For someone who is coming in new, the old content has all been polished and will be extremely enjoyable if you like these types of game. The mentality of "I have to get to the end" is a bad mind set to have when starting out. You want to enjoy the ride...otherwise you are missing out. Some personality types want to just be the best as fast as possible...for those, starting out now would be frustrating.
Trash loot is worth more than 1G...it isn't a big deal. Rep grinds are not like they used to be. Dailies are another way to earn some extra gold. You choose to do it, not forced to.
For raiding, it helps to have minimum requirements. You wanting to hop in to any content with any gear is unrealistic. Part of the game is building up your gear or your level to take on greater challenges. If you aren't able to hold up your end yet, then just do the things that are at your level until you are ready. Otherwise you are wasting the time of 24 other people because you can't keep up.
I am sure this is a common sentiment, but until you attempt to do something like run a high-end guild, you have no idea what you are talking about. It is attempting to herd cats. You have to handle different personalities, people with different objectives, and unify them around a common goal. It does take social skills. And all guilds use voice chat...so no, it isn't like text messaging. You may want to put it down because it is a game, or you don't like it, or you are jealous you don't get to play it because your wife has you by the balls...but once again, you are pretty clueless and probably couldn't handle it.
I played WAR and found it to me like an MMORPG version of TF2 that was less enjoyable and less social than TF2. I do think the PvP was better balanced, but the PvE is uninteresting, the character equipment design is uninspired so that everyone of the same class looks the same, and the graphics are dull, gray, and unfinished. Really, WAR is just WoW designed around PvP. It really adds nothing new...and some of the things I thought would be nice (like instant flight paths) actually make the game worse because no one is talking and the world feels small. I enjoyed for a short period of time...but WoW blew me away. Did you do quests to the point where you got a cut scene? No? Then you didn't really experience some of the amazing story telling and fun.
An Eve expansion is nothing like a WoW expansion. Eve expansions are just like WoW updates. It adds some small amount of content and a few new mechanisms. WoW expansions add huge amount of content to the game that completely change game mechanics and experience. Eve is still the same game it always was except now you can salvage wrecks or now they have new models for their ships. Missions are still as boring as they ever were. People are still sitting around gates and ganking. The reason why you can download it so fast is that there really isn't very much content in that game. It is all player driven. Which is fine if you like that sort of thing. But it tends to be a boring game unless you can devote a lot of time in to your corp. More of a game for the hardcore types where WoW caters to many different type of gamers.
I pretty much agree with the "to each their own" part of your post and not much else. If you just want to use quests as a means to level, you can. But for people who enjoy story elements in the game, Blizzard now delivers for them too. If you want to just level in groups running instances, you can. If you want to do PvP, there are plenty of opportunities to do that despite it was a game designed around PvE. It is just fun.
Compare this with Eve. PvE is a hideous joke. You are forced to run the same thing over and over again to get your ISK. You look up the mission/complex to see what damage you need to bring, warp to your fight, align to a station, target, and then hit f1-f6 and just watch. There is no story unless you read the website...and even then it has no effect on anyone in the game.
PvP is even worse in Eve. It basically amount to sitting at gates with numbers and blowing up poor, unsuspecting people. There is no fairness. You hope your group is bigger and better equipped than the other group or you are toast. And the game has a stacked deck in favor of a group that benefited from dev cheating. Since there is one shard, the game is forever tainted by that.
And WoW is constantly adding tons of content beyond the expansion. I don't think you actually play or you would know this.
I think it is good there are different games for different types of people. But Eve will always be a niche game and will never come close to the number of subscribers that WoW has because it just isn't fun for the majority of people who play it.
Warhammer got old to me very quick. The PvE in that just doesn't come close to WoW. I think the PvP was superior, but it gets boring pretty quickly as well. I realized that Warhammer was essentially an MMORPG TF2 that was less fun than TF2. The only way it was fun was when I was playing with my brother and we both just lost interest fairly quickly.
Also, after the colorful world of WoW, Warhammer looked gray and dull. The animation it had for animals were hideous. Every person in each class of the same level looks near exactly the same since there is no gear variety. The talent trees were uninspired compared to WoW.
Don't get me wrong, they did a good job and it was enjoyable at first. I do think PvP balance is better and you aren't dead before you know what is happening. I like how they scale the levels up in PvP so you have a fighting chance no matter what level you are. I also like that you gain exp for killing other players removing the whole "twink" concept.
But WoW is so much more polished. Quests/PvE instances are more interesting and entertaining. Balance issues are over-stated by whiny children on the forums. I did a long quest chain that led to a cut scene the other night. After that, it took you on an epic battle that put you in the center of the action. That experience alone blows away anything WAR has to offer. I really don't see anything dethroning WoW. I think WAR will do well, but it lacks the socialness and quality PvE that WoW has which is the main draw for many people.
A car isn't going to drive itself to a mechanic. A computer can download patches or have built in software to prevent or repair issues. And why learn...you can't learn everything. Everyone knows someone who can help them when they have trouble.
So we should all have are own individual nuclear weapons? Also, the whole premise is flawed. We are a lot more complex than reason or force. My girl friend doesn't have to reason with me to have sex with her. I do so because I want to. Humans have instinct which act beyond reason or force.
In any case, stuff written by gun nuts only appeal to other gun nuts. If you want to convince other people that guns are good...then maybe work on making all the gun owners out there responsible so that a loved one isn't the most likely one shot but them.
Ridiculous. I would much rather there be an afterlife than not. This is not a white raven. Analogies only work when they actually simplify something that is complex. How does that simplify it? It doesn't...you don't know how to use analogies correctly.
The facts are people dream things every night. They dream all kinds of crazy things. Every now and then, a small number of dreams come true. What is the simpler answer...that it is a coincidence or that ghosts are walking among us? I am not even talking about the article, just logic and science. If you want to believe in voodoo, Santa Claus, life after death, spirits, unicorns, or gods impregnating virgin women...feel free. But if you want to convince other people that spirits or an afterlife exist...saying some dream you had come true is only going to convince people who easily believe in that sort of thing.
Uhh, yeah, there could be evidence of life after death. Spirits could come back to where they visit, they could talk to use through the radio, they could write messages in the cloud, they could enter our bodies and become a part of us. These all sound stupid, but there are plenty of ways that the afterlife could be proven to us. The fact is, there isn't.
Science consists of hypotheses based on evidence. Because there can be no evidence regarding life after death, anyone who uses science to mock followers of religion is equally susceptible to the same mockery.
You must have failed logic class. If what you said is true, then everything ever imagined must exist or science shouldn't exist. Invisible space unicorns exist! Since you can't prove their existence, you can't use science to ridicule people that believe in them! Do you see how crazy that sounds? Your concept that "there can be no evidence" is false. There can be evidence, there just isn't any, so from a science perspective...yeah, sorry, no life after death.
Quite frankly, I firmly am for people believing whatever they want. If you want to believe in life after death because of your religion, good for you. The problem comes from the fact that you get this information from an old, many times translated and rewritten book. This book gets interpreted for you so that you start wars, hate and discriminate against different types of people, and basically make the lives of so many other people miserable. So fine, believe what you want, but don't shove your beliefs down other's throats. (not that you are doing it here, but when you run away from facts and truth in favor of believe, a lot of people historically have suffered and died)
And I had a dream last night that there was a loud speaker in my house that said one of my co-workers had died and I needed to come in to work. Here I am at work and no one has died. Not really interesting since nothing happened...but if it did, then I would have the same sort of story you did.
We dream all kinds of crazy things. Just because every now and then a coincidence happens doesn't really mean anything. It isn't science because it isn't repeatable. Now if every night your dreams could predict something real, then you might have something. Right now you just have a +5 interesting story.
If you really think Linux and Macs are safe because they are "designed from the ground up for multi-user networked security", then you don't know what you are talking about. It may be more secure than other OS's...but if you are connected to a network, you are not safe. Mac zealots need to stop thinking and telling other people they are immune because they use this OS. It is ridiculous and will only make it that much harder to get "clueless" Mac users to properly use their computer.
And it isn't that people can't be bothered to run Macs or Linux. The majority of the software out there still is written for Windows. I find it amusing that the first thing most Mac users do is set up there box to dual boot Windows or set up some Windows VM. If you really want to talk about security, sit down at the grown up table and realize that there are a heck of a lot of people who use Windows. That all systems that are connected to a network are vulnerable. And that you shouldn't put down someone for their choice of OS. Each OS is a tool that can be used effectively for different purposes. It is good to have choice and if we want to secure things, then yes, it sure is helpful to have Mac users running AV and not clicking on every shady link that comes their way.
I am a white guy who voted for Obama. Doesn't that mean that racism is over?
Kidding aside, racism does still exist, but it is blown out of proportion. If we can't have an intellectually honest conversation about what is and isn't racism, it isn't a discussion worth having since all it does is piss people off.
Actually, I think he would want you to do printf("\n");
In any case, I don't think one example of how Java code makes more sense really demonstrates its superiority. It wasn't hard to learn Java after learning C/C++. It doesn't seem to work as well the other way around.
I think this shows that the vast majority of people can tell the difference. I think that shows there IS a dramatic difference. I mean, Bush's approval rating is still higher than that.
I have no issues with violent video games...I have played most of them. But to provide anecdotal evidence that kids are more violent because they pay non-violent games or less violent games is pretty ridiculous.
I am sure that some kids are less violent because they play violent games. I am also sure there are some kids that get more violent after playing these games.
The real answer to all of this is that each kid is different and needs to have different boundaries. Thinking that your way of raising children is universal for all kids isn't realistic. And some kids are just bad, no matter how well you parent them.
Something that can't be unethical or ethical is probably going to be more ethical than something that is unethical. In other words, if robots are neutral and humans are either evil or good, neutral is more good than evil.
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I kind of pictured Slashdot as above judging others for the pass times they enjoy. Guess we were both wrong.
But when you are doing them to get to 80, it isn't really grinding since it is the first time you played them and they are interesting. If you don't like what happens after 80, then quit. And don't bother whining about it because no one cares. Obviously they like it and you aren't going to change that.
Why would you think it would matter if someone gave a negative review on here? All the people who are griping are griping about minor stupid stuff that will be addressed in patches very soon. The core parts of the expansion are strong. They always fill out the rest over time. It is like finding a chunk of gold and then complaining it isn't very shiny yet. You know it is going to be polished...so relax.
So maybe you should work on another achievement rather than complaining about it on Slashdot? Of all the things to complain about, this has to be the most ridiculous I have ever read.
The core of the game is fun. To us who have been playing for a long time, the new content is great. For someone who is coming in new, the old content has all been polished and will be extremely enjoyable if you like these types of game. The mentality of "I have to get to the end" is a bad mind set to have when starting out. You want to enjoy the ride...otherwise you are missing out. Some personality types want to just be the best as fast as possible...for those, starting out now would be frustrating.
Trash loot is worth more than 1G...it isn't a big deal. Rep grinds are not like they used to be. Dailies are another way to earn some extra gold. You choose to do it, not forced to.
For raiding, it helps to have minimum requirements. You wanting to hop in to any content with any gear is unrealistic. Part of the game is building up your gear or your level to take on greater challenges. If you aren't able to hold up your end yet, then just do the things that are at your level until you are ready. Otherwise you are wasting the time of 24 other people because you can't keep up.
I am sure this is a common sentiment, but until you attempt to do something like run a high-end guild, you have no idea what you are talking about. It is attempting to herd cats. You have to handle different personalities, people with different objectives, and unify them around a common goal. It does take social skills. And all guilds use voice chat...so no, it isn't like text messaging. You may want to put it down because it is a game, or you don't like it, or you are jealous you don't get to play it because your wife has you by the balls...but once again, you are pretty clueless and probably couldn't handle it.
I played WAR and found it to me like an MMORPG version of TF2 that was less enjoyable and less social than TF2. I do think the PvP was better balanced, but the PvE is uninteresting, the character equipment design is uninspired so that everyone of the same class looks the same, and the graphics are dull, gray, and unfinished. Really, WAR is just WoW designed around PvP. It really adds nothing new...and some of the things I thought would be nice (like instant flight paths) actually make the game worse because no one is talking and the world feels small. I enjoyed for a short period of time...but WoW blew me away. Did you do quests to the point where you got a cut scene? No? Then you didn't really experience some of the amazing story telling and fun.
An Eve expansion is nothing like a WoW expansion. Eve expansions are just like WoW updates. It adds some small amount of content and a few new mechanisms. WoW expansions add huge amount of content to the game that completely change game mechanics and experience. Eve is still the same game it always was except now you can salvage wrecks or now they have new models for their ships. Missions are still as boring as they ever were. People are still sitting around gates and ganking. The reason why you can download it so fast is that there really isn't very much content in that game. It is all player driven. Which is fine if you like that sort of thing. But it tends to be a boring game unless you can devote a lot of time in to your corp. More of a game for the hardcore types where WoW caters to many different type of gamers.
I pretty much agree with the "to each their own" part of your post and not much else. If you just want to use quests as a means to level, you can. But for people who enjoy story elements in the game, Blizzard now delivers for them too. If you want to just level in groups running instances, you can. If you want to do PvP, there are plenty of opportunities to do that despite it was a game designed around PvE. It is just fun.
Compare this with Eve. PvE is a hideous joke. You are forced to run the same thing over and over again to get your ISK. You look up the mission/complex to see what damage you need to bring, warp to your fight, align to a station, target, and then hit f1-f6 and just watch. There is no story unless you read the website...and even then it has no effect on anyone in the game.
PvP is even worse in Eve. It basically amount to sitting at gates with numbers and blowing up poor, unsuspecting people. There is no fairness. You hope your group is bigger and better equipped than the other group or you are toast. And the game has a stacked deck in favor of a group that benefited from dev cheating. Since there is one shard, the game is forever tainted by that.
And WoW is constantly adding tons of content beyond the expansion. I don't think you actually play or you would know this.
I think it is good there are different games for different types of people. But Eve will always be a niche game and will never come close to the number of subscribers that WoW has because it just isn't fun for the majority of people who play it.
Warhammer got old to me very quick. The PvE in that just doesn't come close to WoW. I think the PvP was superior, but it gets boring pretty quickly as well. I realized that Warhammer was essentially an MMORPG TF2 that was less fun than TF2. The only way it was fun was when I was playing with my brother and we both just lost interest fairly quickly.
Also, after the colorful world of WoW, Warhammer looked gray and dull. The animation it had for animals were hideous. Every person in each class of the same level looks near exactly the same since there is no gear variety. The talent trees were uninspired compared to WoW.
Don't get me wrong, they did a good job and it was enjoyable at first. I do think PvP balance is better and you aren't dead before you know what is happening. I like how they scale the levels up in PvP so you have a fighting chance no matter what level you are. I also like that you gain exp for killing other players removing the whole "twink" concept.
But WoW is so much more polished. Quests/PvE instances are more interesting and entertaining. Balance issues are over-stated by whiny children on the forums. I did a long quest chain that led to a cut scene the other night. After that, it took you on an epic battle that put you in the center of the action. That experience alone blows away anything WAR has to offer. I really don't see anything dethroning WoW. I think WAR will do well, but it lacks the socialness and quality PvE that WoW has which is the main draw for many people.
A car isn't going to drive itself to a mechanic. A computer can download patches or have built in software to prevent or repair issues. And why learn...you can't learn everything. Everyone knows someone who can help them when they have trouble.
So we should all have are own individual nuclear weapons? Also, the whole premise is flawed. We are a lot more complex than reason or force. My girl friend doesn't have to reason with me to have sex with her. I do so because I want to. Humans have instinct which act beyond reason or force.
In any case, stuff written by gun nuts only appeal to other gun nuts. If you want to convince other people that guns are good...then maybe work on making all the gun owners out there responsible so that a loved one isn't the most likely one shot but them.
Ridiculous. I would much rather there be an afterlife than not. This is not a white raven. Analogies only work when they actually simplify something that is complex. How does that simplify it? It doesn't...you don't know how to use analogies correctly.
The facts are people dream things every night. They dream all kinds of crazy things. Every now and then, a small number of dreams come true. What is the simpler answer...that it is a coincidence or that ghosts are walking among us? I am not even talking about the article, just logic and science. If you want to believe in voodoo, Santa Claus, life after death, spirits, unicorns, or gods impregnating virgin women...feel free. But if you want to convince other people that spirits or an afterlife exist...saying some dream you had come true is only going to convince people who easily believe in that sort of thing.
And that is why all the women call you Lord Ender, right?
Uhh, yeah, there could be evidence of life after death. Spirits could come back to where they visit, they could talk to use through the radio, they could write messages in the cloud, they could enter our bodies and become a part of us. These all sound stupid, but there are plenty of ways that the afterlife could be proven to us. The fact is, there isn't.
Science consists of hypotheses based on evidence. Because there can be no evidence regarding life after death, anyone who uses science to mock followers of religion is equally susceptible to the same mockery.
You must have failed logic class. If what you said is true, then everything ever imagined must exist or science shouldn't exist. Invisible space unicorns exist! Since you can't prove their existence, you can't use science to ridicule people that believe in them! Do you see how crazy that sounds? Your concept that "there can be no evidence" is false. There can be evidence, there just isn't any, so from a science perspective...yeah, sorry, no life after death.
Quite frankly, I firmly am for people believing whatever they want. If you want to believe in life after death because of your religion, good for you. The problem comes from the fact that you get this information from an old, many times translated and rewritten book. This book gets interpreted for you so that you start wars, hate and discriminate against different types of people, and basically make the lives of so many other people miserable. So fine, believe what you want, but don't shove your beliefs down other's throats. (not that you are doing it here, but when you run away from facts and truth in favor of believe, a lot of people historically have suffered and died)
And I had a dream last night that there was a loud speaker in my house that said one of my co-workers had died and I needed to come in to work. Here I am at work and no one has died. Not really interesting since nothing happened...but if it did, then I would have the same sort of story you did.
We dream all kinds of crazy things. Just because every now and then a coincidence happens doesn't really mean anything. It isn't science because it isn't repeatable. Now if every night your dreams could predict something real, then you might have something. Right now you just have a +5 interesting story.
If you really think Linux and Macs are safe because they are "designed from the ground up for multi-user networked security", then you don't know what you are talking about. It may be more secure than other OS's...but if you are connected to a network, you are not safe. Mac zealots need to stop thinking and telling other people they are immune because they use this OS. It is ridiculous and will only make it that much harder to get "clueless" Mac users to properly use their computer.
And it isn't that people can't be bothered to run Macs or Linux. The majority of the software out there still is written for Windows. I find it amusing that the first thing most Mac users do is set up there box to dual boot Windows or set up some Windows VM. If you really want to talk about security, sit down at the grown up table and realize that there are a heck of a lot of people who use Windows. That all systems that are connected to a network are vulnerable. And that you shouldn't put down someone for their choice of OS. Each OS is a tool that can be used effectively for different purposes. It is good to have choice and if we want to secure things, then yes, it sure is helpful to have Mac users running AV and not clicking on every shady link that comes their way.
I am a white guy who voted for Obama. Doesn't that mean that racism is over?
Kidding aside, racism does still exist, but it is blown out of proportion. If we can't have an intellectually honest conversation about what is and isn't racism, it isn't a discussion worth having since all it does is piss people off.
Actually, I think he would want you to do printf("\n");
In any case, I don't think one example of how Java code makes more sense really demonstrates its superiority. It wasn't hard to learn Java after learning C/C++. It doesn't seem to work as well the other way around.
I think this shows that the vast majority of people can tell the difference. I think that shows there IS a dramatic difference. I mean, Bush's approval rating is still higher than that.
I have no issues with violent video games...I have played most of them. But to provide anecdotal evidence that kids are more violent because they pay non-violent games or less violent games is pretty ridiculous.
I am sure that some kids are less violent because they play violent games. I am also sure there are some kids that get more violent after playing these games.
The real answer to all of this is that each kid is different and needs to have different boundaries. Thinking that your way of raising children is universal for all kids isn't realistic. And some kids are just bad, no matter how well you parent them.
So wanting to minimize death is "Leftist" these days? What does the Right stand for? Killing kittens in their sleep?
I agree. Unfortunately if you say that these days, you have to hear people say "then the terrorists will win".
Something that can't be unethical or ethical is probably going to be more ethical than something that is unethical. In other words, if robots are neutral and humans are either evil or good, neutral is more good than evil.