Oh yes...because it HAS NEVER BEEN SAID BEFORE! Games make the console. Damn, the brilliant people here in the games section. I swear, we need to give out less mod points if we keep modding the obvious insightful.
Meh, yeah, he went too far. But he is kinda right in the sense that I think Slashdot is going downhill. You can't come on Slashdot for an intelligent debate on games/consoles. This place is over run by Nintendo zealots at this point. Someone could list why they like the PSP and why they despite the DS and they would get modded down. Do the reverse, and you get modded up.
As an intelligent person with a degree, you should be able to step out of your semi-Nintendo fanboyism and see why he is frustrated. The guy basically said his opinion. He really likes the PSP, it has games he enjoys...so why is Slashdot constantly complaining. He doesn't like the DS because he finds the graphics jarring and doesn't find the games interesting. Of course, you can't say anything positive about the PSP and negative about the DS without everyone on here jumping all over you. You could do the reverse with Nintendo and get a bunch of "me toos!" and "I agree!" that all get modded up. Really, it is quite frustrating to be neutral here because everything has a heavy Nintendo/Apple/Linux slant. Fortunately, there is some sanity and good mods that know what they are doing and can mod up both sides of a debate...but that seems to be rarer these days.
The funny thing about the IPhone is that if any other company were making it, Slashdot would be all over them. You would see quotes like: I got my cell phone to make phone calls, not to listen to music, take pictures, or play games. Just make my cell phone work well at what it is supposed to do: make phone calls.
They want how much for a &^(&ing cell phone???
On top of that, it is only going to be under one wireless carrier. How is that good for the consumer?
Please, Slashdot, pull your head out of wherever it is stuck and despise the IPhone as much as it deserves. Don't let the word "Apple" blind you.
I find all fanboys equally obnoxious. Nintendo fanboys on here are unbearable. Rather than making fun of "kiddy games" they put people down in different ways. They attack people who play "mature" games (to them this means that it just has blood and cursing...which means it isn't fun or innovative). They attack people who play FPS's. They call these people teens or not true gamers or frat boys. The fact of the matter is, if you find a game fun, play it...if anyone judges you based off of that, they are morons. The fact that they are getting to you just shows you are insecure about it.
Sony is just a company. The PS2 is a great console with plenty of games to play...it doesn't matter if they are third party or not. The reason the third parties went to the PS2 was because Nintendo treated third parties with garbage and refused to innovate (in the sense they would not move off of cartridges...now are they copying Sony's innovation? actually, they passed on the technology...so it is Nintendo's fault that Sony took off in a way). Nintendo is making more profit off of their customers than any other company. Nintendo fanboys brag about this fact...as if this is a good. Yeah, Nintendo makes cheaper hardware so they can profit off their fans more and this is viewed as a good thing by its fans (pretty amusing really, impressive marketing).
The fact is all these companies do evil things at times. Nintendo fanboys are just excited beacuse this round Nintendo isn't screwing up as much so they can rub it in other people's faces. Just as immature as the Sony fanboys before them. It's easier to just ignore all the crap and see there are three consoles that each bring a different element to the table. Right now the PS3 doesn't have any games for it to be taken seriously. Really, if the Wii didn't have Zelda (a gamecube port) it wouldn't have anything that would draw me to it either. Wii sports and a lot of the other titles are just mini-games...not worth the price (I know, Sports is bundled, talking about the other games) and lacking any depth. The 360 has had large headstart but is just now finally getting some titles that make it look interesting and have a very robust online component. All of these consoles have plenty of potential (some more realized than others).
What I am trying to say is move on from your fanboyism because it is moronic. There should not be emotion involved when buying a game system. If a system has more of the types of games you enjoy, then buy it. Doesn't matter what other people think or say or what evil thing people say a company is doing. If what you like happens to be a Wii...great. Just don't turn in to an arrogant prick and judge people based on what they buy. You are turning in to the same type of person you hate.
This has to be the funniest thing I have read in awhile. Zonk has appeared so anti-Sony in the past....even blaming them for people getting shot...that I just had to laugh at all you wrote. I think this is your bias showing. If anyone says something positive about something other than Nintendo on here, people start spasming (you may not be a fanboy, but justa guess).
No, Zonk is not a Sony fanboy. He might actually be unbiased (or at least much less biased) than we all thought. Give the guy a break. (though it drives me nuts to read "These is *not* Miis"...bad editor!)
You, of course, are 100% right. But it is anti-Sony rant and therefore automatically modded insightful. I am glad you replied though as you said excactly what I was thinking but better than I could write it.
Unfortunately, in general, Slashdot bias > intelligence when it comes to the mods. Don't get me wrong, posts that show intelligence are sometimes modded up...but in general, people mod up what they agree with rather than what shows any critical thinking. Linux, Apple, and Nintendo can do no wrong on this site. You can simply say "I love my Mii and Tennis! Sony sucks!" and it will be modded up. It is sad and frustrating that this is the case...but you just have to get used to it.
So yeah, come to Slashdot to discuss your nerdy subjects, but don't expect rational, intelligent conversation anymore. It has become a site controlled by the fanboy.
You mean they are still making games post-World of Warcraft??? I'm going have to check this out! Oh wait...need to grind out 1000 more gold for my elite mount.
I think game reviews are useful...I just go to multiple sources. I like Game Informer just because I like to know what games are coming out and what they look like. I generally agree with their reviews as well...but it never hurts to look at what other people think.
It is a first person SHOOTER! What the heck are you talking about. Replacing guns with straws and spit wads? Only bows and arrows? It is just going to be the same thing except the graphic of the weapon you are holding will be different. But there are first person games that are different...try Dark Messiah.
In any case, the reason why innovative games are not as common is because they are not popular. Everyone bought Zelda while no one bought Okami. You want innovation? Then start buying the games that are innovative. But I know you will just go back to playing whatever sequel you are on and complain there are no innovative games out there because you never bother to look.
I played competitively and was #2 in the largest amateur ladder in North America in Q3CTF. I knew the maps and how to play Q3. What you are talking about isn't strategy. It is key to being decent at every single FPS game. The rocket launcher relies on twitch as much as the rail gun...you are just twitching to where you think the guy is going to be instead of twitching to where he is.
Blah blah blah. They come out with games like Okami and people like you don't buy it. There is plenty of innovation but everyone just buys the sequels and complains that there are no original titles without even bothering to look. I bet you love Zelda on your Wii!
To each their own. To me Q3 lacked any sort of depth. It was just all twitch. You could kill or be killed in a matter of seconds as every weapon did too much damage. CS is more exciting in the sense you actually care if you die and try to be more cautious. Strategy mattered more as throwing yourself at the enemy would be stupid.
In any case, this was more about single player than multi-player...and Q3s single player was terrible.
Gamers are not going to Vista. Performance is worse. It will be a few years down the road before it becomes stable and is able to beat XP. If some game comes out DX10 only, they are going to screw themselves out of millions of potential customers. Seems pretty stupid from a business perspective. I wouldn't worry about it at this point.
Once Vista doesn't suck and actually has users, then it will be an issue...but that will still be years.
Do you even listen to yourself anymore? Some whacked out Christians kill people...this is true. But you don't have major religious/political figures calling for the death of abortion doctors and homosexuals. On the other hand, you have major Muslim leaders calling for Jihad. You have religious texts that state we are on holy land and need to be killed. You have car bombs and IEDs blowing the crap out of people based on their religion. If you can't see the difference, then you are stupid. Maybe you don't kill people over your beliefs, but you are walking down the road of extremism with your views.
Are all Muslims evil? Of course not, no one is saying that...but if you don't believe religion isn't the main reason for all of the current violence...then you have your fingers in your ears and are screaming "lalalala". Grow up, pull your fingers out of your ears and actually look at the problem.
Yes, Christianity has been responsible for millions of deaths in the past. That is horrible. But you can't equate some whack jobs knocking off gays with what is going on in the middle east.
So the guy steps down from EA. The summary strikes me as a load of crap. You are telling me this guy got hurt feelings because people said they make too many sequels? Yeah, fine, I know this is just playing the typical Slashdot audience that cries constantly at the lack of innovation..but come on. EA makes games that sell very well (regardless of quality). Sequels have allowed them to make bundles of cash with less effort than starting from scratch. Is that good for the gamer? In this case, no. But from a business perspective it is like printing your own money.
It just strikes me as filler text that has nothing to do with the real reason. I didn't bother to RTFA because, seriously, who cares about this guy? But he probably found a better paying job or wants to spend time with his family. He isn't going to go throw himself off a bridge because he feels guilty that more people bought Madden 2012 instead of Okami.
Also, you take a hit on durability. This is minor for someone in lesser gear. It becomes quite a burden for the people with the best gear in the game as their repair bills become incredibly high. Of course, this just requires people to take more time making money to be able to afford raiding...but you did miss that part.
Difficulty: You are kind of right. Leveling is much easier than in other MMORPGs. End game raid content is where the challenge is. But with a 40 man raid, a lot of people didn't have to do much. The new 25 man limit changes this. It does take skill so the difficulty improves.
Comunity: WoW has more players then any other game...you don't think it has a community? It doesn't sound like you joined a guild or did any end game content (or ran instances at all). Being forced to group in order to accomplish anything in a game does let you get to know more people..no doubt. But it is what turns off tons of people who don't want to sit for hours trying to find a group. If you didn't run instances as you levelled, didn't bother participating in a guild...then you are going to miss out on community. But it is your concious choice to do so.
Competition: Competition is stupid. You have a bunch of people all hanging around trying to tap a mob before someone else does. Ok everyone, log in at 5 EST because we have to get monster xyz spawn. Instancing is brilliant because it allows the challenge to be something everyone that can take part in. Not just people who have counters and spawn points on every mob in the game.
I can understand how one type of game can appeal to certain people...but I don't think you actually played WoW. You just got to 60 and thought that was it. 60 is where the game begins (well, 70 now).
Huh? You have no idea what you are talking about. The great majority of the content is for casual players. It is mostly areas for leveling and 5 man instances. There is actually very little hardcore other than the 25 man dungeoun and 5 man heroic (and arena for the PvP minded folks). To go to the expansion areas (other than the beginning area for the two new races) you need to be level 58. That isn't hardcore.
Just because you are too low level to actually see the content doesn't mean it is hardcore. It just means you are clueless and shouldn't really be stating an opinion on things you have yet to see.
Please, tactics in PvP are just using your racial jamming and going in with superior numbers. The whole system is not even close to balanced. An experienced player in a much more expensive ship can be taken out by younger players whose collective ship cost is less. Besides, most of PvP in Eve is sitting around at gate and shooting at people who don't want to PvP.
Don't say this in an Eve forum. They would tear you apart. The vocal community want them to make PvE as painful as possible so everyone goes to low/no sec space. You and your wife made the right choice to not go on. Even World of Warcraft would be a lot more fun for the two of you. My girl friend isn't a gamer but she loves to play her WoW character with me.
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Which DX10 features? The ones that make games run slower than in XP? (I'm kidding, sort of)
Oh yes...because it HAS NEVER BEEN SAID BEFORE! Games make the console. Damn, the brilliant people here in the games section. I swear, we need to give out less mod points if we keep modding the obvious insightful.
Meh, yeah, he went too far. But he is kinda right in the sense that I think Slashdot is going downhill. You can't come on Slashdot for an intelligent debate on games/consoles. This place is over run by Nintendo zealots at this point. Someone could list why they like the PSP and why they despite the DS and they would get modded down. Do the reverse, and you get modded up.
As an intelligent person with a degree, you should be able to step out of your semi-Nintendo fanboyism and see why he is frustrated. The guy basically said his opinion. He really likes the PSP, it has games he enjoys...so why is Slashdot constantly complaining. He doesn't like the DS because he finds the graphics jarring and doesn't find the games interesting. Of course, you can't say anything positive about the PSP and negative about the DS without everyone on here jumping all over you. You could do the reverse with Nintendo and get a bunch of "me toos!" and "I agree!" that all get modded up. Really, it is quite frustrating to be neutral here because everything has a heavy Nintendo/Apple/Linux slant. Fortunately, there is some sanity and good mods that know what they are doing and can mod up both sides of a debate...but that seems to be rarer these days.
The funny thing about the IPhone is that if any other company were making it, Slashdot would be all over them. You would see quotes like: I got my cell phone to make phone calls, not to listen to music, take pictures, or play games. Just make my cell phone work well at what it is supposed to do: make phone calls.
They want how much for a &^(&ing cell phone???
On top of that, it is only going to be under one wireless carrier. How is that good for the consumer?
Please, Slashdot, pull your head out of wherever it is stuck and despise the IPhone as much as it deserves. Don't let the word "Apple" blind you.
Did you pay for all 100 games? Neither did anyone else.
I find all fanboys equally obnoxious. Nintendo fanboys on here are unbearable. Rather than making fun of "kiddy games" they put people down in different ways. They attack people who play "mature" games (to them this means that it just has blood and cursing...which means it isn't fun or innovative). They attack people who play FPS's. They call these people teens or not true gamers or frat boys. The fact of the matter is, if you find a game fun, play it...if anyone judges you based off of that, they are morons. The fact that they are getting to you just shows you are insecure about it.
Sony is just a company. The PS2 is a great console with plenty of games to play...it doesn't matter if they are third party or not. The reason the third parties went to the PS2 was because Nintendo treated third parties with garbage and refused to innovate (in the sense they would not move off of cartridges...now are they copying Sony's innovation? actually, they passed on the technology...so it is Nintendo's fault that Sony took off in a way). Nintendo is making more profit off of their customers than any other company. Nintendo fanboys brag about this fact...as if this is a good. Yeah, Nintendo makes cheaper hardware so they can profit off their fans more and this is viewed as a good thing by its fans (pretty amusing really, impressive marketing).
The fact is all these companies do evil things at times. Nintendo fanboys are just excited beacuse this round Nintendo isn't screwing up as much so they can rub it in other people's faces. Just as immature as the Sony fanboys before them. It's easier to just ignore all the crap and see there are three consoles that each bring a different element to the table. Right now the PS3 doesn't have any games for it to be taken seriously. Really, if the Wii didn't have Zelda (a gamecube port) it wouldn't have anything that would draw me to it either. Wii sports and a lot of the other titles are just mini-games...not worth the price (I know, Sports is bundled, talking about the other games) and lacking any depth. The 360 has had large headstart but is just now finally getting some titles that make it look interesting and have a very robust online component. All of these consoles have plenty of potential (some more realized than others).
What I am trying to say is move on from your fanboyism because it is moronic. There should not be emotion involved when buying a game system. If a system has more of the types of games you enjoy, then buy it. Doesn't matter what other people think or say or what evil thing people say a company is doing. If what you like happens to be a Wii...great. Just don't turn in to an arrogant prick and judge people based on what they buy. You are turning in to the same type of person you hate.
This has to be the funniest thing I have read in awhile. Zonk has appeared so anti-Sony in the past....even blaming them for people getting shot...that I just had to laugh at all you wrote. I think this is your bias showing. If anyone says something positive about something other than Nintendo on here, people start spasming (you may not be a fanboy, but justa guess).
No, Zonk is not a Sony fanboy. He might actually be unbiased (or at least much less biased) than we all thought. Give the guy a break. (though it drives me nuts to read "These is *not* Miis"...bad editor!)
You, of course, are 100% right. But it is anti-Sony rant and therefore automatically modded insightful. I am glad you replied though as you said excactly what I was thinking but better than I could write it.
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This is what I come here to read. Both informative and educational.
Unfortunately, in general, Slashdot bias > intelligence when it comes to the mods. Don't get me wrong, posts that show intelligence are sometimes modded up...but in general, people mod up what they agree with rather than what shows any critical thinking. Linux, Apple, and Nintendo can do no wrong on this site. You can simply say "I love my Mii and Tennis! Sony sucks!" and it will be modded up. It is sad and frustrating that this is the case...but you just have to get used to it.
So yeah, come to Slashdot to discuss your nerdy subjects, but don't expect rational, intelligent conversation anymore. It has become a site controlled by the fanboy.
You mean they are still making games post-World of Warcraft??? I'm going have to check this out! Oh wait...need to grind out 1000 more gold for my elite mount.
I think game reviews are useful...I just go to multiple sources. I like Game Informer just because I like to know what games are coming out and what they look like. I generally agree with their reviews as well...but it never hurts to look at what other people think.
It is a first person SHOOTER! What the heck are you talking about. Replacing guns with straws and spit wads? Only bows and arrows? It is just going to be the same thing except the graphic of the weapon you are holding will be different. But there are first person games that are different...try Dark Messiah.
In any case, the reason why innovative games are not as common is because they are not popular. Everyone bought Zelda while no one bought Okami. You want innovation? Then start buying the games that are innovative. But I know you will just go back to playing whatever sequel you are on and complain there are no innovative games out there because you never bother to look.
I played competitively and was #2 in the largest amateur ladder in North America in Q3CTF. I knew the maps and how to play Q3. What you are talking about isn't strategy. It is key to being decent at every single FPS game. The rocket launcher relies on twitch as much as the rail gun...you are just twitching to where you think the guy is going to be instead of twitching to where he is.
Blah blah blah. They come out with games like Okami and people like you don't buy it. There is plenty of innovation but everyone just buys the sequels and complains that there are no original titles without even bothering to look. I bet you love Zelda on your Wii!
To each their own. To me Q3 lacked any sort of depth. It was just all twitch. You could kill or be killed in a matter of seconds as every weapon did too much damage. CS is more exciting in the sense you actually care if you die and try to be more cautious. Strategy mattered more as throwing yourself at the enemy would be stupid.
In any case, this was more about single player than multi-player...and Q3s single player was terrible.
Gamers are not going to Vista. Performance is worse. It will be a few years down the road before it becomes stable and is able to beat XP. If some game comes out DX10 only, they are going to screw themselves out of millions of potential customers. Seems pretty stupid from a business perspective. I wouldn't worry about it at this point.
Once Vista doesn't suck and actually has users, then it will be an issue...but that will still be years.
Do you even listen to yourself anymore? Some whacked out Christians kill people...this is true. But you don't have major religious/political figures calling for the death of abortion doctors and homosexuals. On the other hand, you have major Muslim leaders calling for Jihad. You have religious texts that state we are on holy land and need to be killed. You have car bombs and IEDs blowing the crap out of people based on their religion. If you can't see the difference, then you are stupid. Maybe you don't kill people over your beliefs, but you are walking down the road of extremism with your views.
Are all Muslims evil? Of course not, no one is saying that...but if you don't believe religion isn't the main reason for all of the current violence...then you have your fingers in your ears and are screaming "lalalala". Grow up, pull your fingers out of your ears and actually look at the problem.
Yes, Christianity has been responsible for millions of deaths in the past. That is horrible. But you can't equate some whack jobs knocking off gays with what is going on in the middle east.
So the guy steps down from EA. The summary strikes me as a load of crap. You are telling me this guy got hurt feelings because people said they make too many sequels? Yeah, fine, I know this is just playing the typical Slashdot audience that cries constantly at the lack of innovation..but come on. EA makes games that sell very well (regardless of quality). Sequels have allowed them to make bundles of cash with less effort than starting from scratch. Is that good for the gamer? In this case, no. But from a business perspective it is like printing your own money.
It just strikes me as filler text that has nothing to do with the real reason. I didn't bother to RTFA because, seriously, who cares about this guy? But he probably found a better paying job or wants to spend time with his family. He isn't going to go throw himself off a bridge because he feels guilty that more people bought Madden 2012 instead of Okami.
Also, you take a hit on durability. This is minor for someone in lesser gear. It becomes quite a burden for the people with the best gear in the game as their repair bills become incredibly high. Of course, this just requires people to take more time making money to be able to afford raiding...but you did miss that part.
Difficulty: You are kind of right. Leveling is much easier than in other MMORPGs. End game raid content is where the challenge is. But with a 40 man raid, a lot of people didn't have to do much. The new 25 man limit changes this. It does take skill so the difficulty improves.
Comunity: WoW has more players then any other game...you don't think it has a community? It doesn't sound like you joined a guild or did any end game content (or ran instances at all). Being forced to group in order to accomplish anything in a game does let you get to know more people..no doubt. But it is what turns off tons of people who don't want to sit for hours trying to find a group. If you didn't run instances as you levelled, didn't bother participating in a guild...then you are going to miss out on community. But it is your concious choice to do so.
Competition: Competition is stupid. You have a bunch of people all hanging around trying to tap a mob before someone else does. Ok everyone, log in at 5 EST because we have to get monster xyz spawn. Instancing is brilliant because it allows the challenge to be something everyone that can take part in. Not just people who have counters and spawn points on every mob in the game.
I can understand how one type of game can appeal to certain people...but I don't think you actually played WoW. You just got to 60 and thought that was it. 60 is where the game begins (well, 70 now).
Right. Because PS2 drives never failed. I'd like some of whatever you are smoking.
Huh? You have no idea what you are talking about. The great majority of the content is for casual players. It is mostly areas for leveling and 5 man instances. There is actually very little hardcore other than the 25 man dungeoun and 5 man heroic (and arena for the PvP minded folks). To go to the expansion areas (other than the beginning area for the two new races) you need to be level 58. That isn't hardcore.
Just because you are too low level to actually see the content doesn't mean it is hardcore. It just means you are clueless and shouldn't really be stating an opinion on things you have yet to see.
So the red light stays on magically not using any power...that's pretty cool :P
Please, tactics in PvP are just using your racial jamming and going in with superior numbers. The whole system is not even close to balanced. An experienced player in a much more expensive ship can be taken out by younger players whose collective ship cost is less. Besides, most of PvP in Eve is sitting around at gate and shooting at people who don't want to PvP.
Don't say this in an Eve forum. They would tear you apart. The vocal community want them to make PvE as painful as possible so everyone goes to low/no sec space. You and your wife made the right choice to not go on. Even World of Warcraft would be a lot more fun for the two of you. My girl friend isn't a gamer but she loves to play her WoW character with me.