Which begs to question: if they have these plug-ins already, why are they working now to includ CMYK into the Gimp now?
And yes, I knew about this already, but as you can see right in there web page: "A plugin providing rudimentary CMYK support for The GIMP"
What can it do?
* Convert an RGB image to individual CMYK layers, using specified source and destination Colour Profiles.
* Save such a collection of layers as a CMYK TIFF.
* Proof the CMYK image on the monitor. (I don't think this is currently working correctly)
* Perform a "duotone" separation on an RGB image, reducing it to just those colours achievable with red and black ink. (This feature does *not* use colour-profiles!)
What can't it do?
* Load CMYK TIFFs into individual layers. If you want to edit a CMYK image, save it in XCF format as well as CMYK TIFF, so the layers are preserved for future editing.
* Embed ICC profiles in the generated TIFF.
* Perform the "duotone" trick based on any colour other than red.
So while you're sitting pretty smug with the knowledge that thought you'd show us the way, it's still not quite what the pre-press world is looking for...sorry.
Five seconds of a little thought go a long way. Yes, CMYK is kinda sorta there for the Gimp...but "kinda sorta" doesn't cut it. Yet.
The Gimp project IS working on native CMYK editing right there...live. Give it time. I want to be able to load a CMYK TIFF, not convert it to anything, color correct it in CMYK, and then save it back out as a CMYK TIFF. I also want the ability to have 6-7-8 extra color touch plates to a file...then save it out. This plug-in doesn't do that.
But yes, it's a step in the right direction. So sorry, your 5 seconds and a little googling didn't go anywhere.
This is great news! It's been so long since I've been out there at a concert.
But it's interesting that I've always thought that the Dead kinda killed Jerry. Sure, his years of substance abuse had much to do with it. But when you get most of your income from touring, you have this huge "machine" that is dependant on you to keep going. Jerry didn't have much time to take time off and just relax. Yes, he had money, but you also have to think of the roadies and secretaries and other people that kept the Dead going...they had bills to pay and house mortgages etc. Jerry carried a huge weight on his shoulders.
But in the end, I feel like you, that this certainly should be the wave of the future in the music industry. The Dead and Phish certainly don't rely on hit records...as the Dead only had one hit in their long strange trip.
Also, using 5th and 6th color touch plates wouldn't be hard to do once CMYK comes out.
We always did 6 color PS files and broke out the 5th and 6th colors as seperate PS files (for instance putting like PMS 300 on the Cyan sep and PMS XXX on the Magenta plate). Then send them to the page assembly dept to trap them in ArtPro...
But this is all dependent on Gimp getting CMYK...once it does, all the tricks and work arounds we used to use with older versions of PS can come into play.
Well, I'm a knowledgeable professional. In fact, I could almost boast you'd be hard pressed to find someone with more knowledge and experience with Photoshop. I say this with pride and arrogance because frankly I can. (though I know, there's always someone better than you out there...).
Now, having said this...The Gimp is "getting there". No, it doesn't have CMYK yet...yet. And it doesn't have color profiles, but those are in the works.
But you're correct...no one in pre-press would use LaTeX. But as for The Gimp, will it take over Photoshop? Well, I don't have my crystal ball back from the shop yet, so it's anyone's guess. But I will say with every new version of Photoshop coming down the pike, it's getting more and more bloated. PS was one of the few apps spared from bloatware for a while, but I guess that's gone. But when someone is running it on a dual G5 with 8 gigs of ram, it doesn't really matter.
Also, with the Gimp getting better and better it gives Adobe competition in an area that it's so long dominated. Competition can only be good for the end user.
Depends on the band really. Some bands like The Greatfull Dead used to let you hook right into the mixing board to record the concert...which is why there are so many good Dead bootlegs out there.
I think Phish lets you do this also...and others. But then again, this may be a thing of the past.
Well, it does take time, it also depends on what time of day.
But then again, some people don't feel they're ever helped it seems. I'm not saying you're one of them of course, but some don't have the patience.
It is free by the way. I've found #gentoo an enormous help when I was first installing my system. They helped me get everything up and running and pointed out certain areas I would need to look more into etc etc. I was amazed at how helpfull.
But I understand you can't please everyone all the time. All I can say is if you're ignored at first, or they were busy helping others, just try back later.
Should IRC and #gentoo be used in place of a tech support service, of course not. But you may find that it's a very nice place to get help.
Gentoo emerge -UD world FUCKS UP configuration files.
um..if you knew anything about Gentoo then you would know that it doesn't touch configuration files, if there is a new config file it will rename the NEW file as something like/etc/._cfg0000_gentoo-release while keeping the original/etc/gentoo-release untouched.
After the emerge it will tell you that some files config files need to be looked at, a simple:
find/etc -iname '._cfg????_*'
will give you a list of the config files that need updating. Yes. Gentoo even informs you how to find these files. and nice big fat: "use 'emerge --help config' message is staring you right in the face if any new config files need updating.
This isn't something you can just bypass. Nice try. But please, give us a little credit if you're going to make something up!
Very helpfull people there. Base install of Gentoo comes with "irssi" IRC client that you can hook up to right from the install CD. Ask your question (no need to ask "can I ask a question") and try to be as specific as you can.
Now, this IS an IRC channel so you might run into a few knuckleheads there, but be patient and you WILL be helped. The people there are very well versed and many of the OPs are themselves Gentoo developers and they know the system. They will help.
I go there to help also. It's my small way of giving something back to the community as I'm not a developer, but I can try to help others.
Most people are very patient there, but if you're asking a question that's plainly right in the install guide, they'll direct you to that usually.
Don't be a jerk there and you'll do fine. Others I've seen log into the channel and go "this sucks, I can't get this and this working...Gentoo sucks...I can't do anything". Then when no one responds in about 20 seconds they shout "how come no one wants to help me...this sucks". And on and on. Some people are beyond help it seems...and not for just and OS install either, hehe.
once a day, or once every other day or so (not more than this, once daily should be enough, if you do it more it could slow down the rsync servers...don't be greedy).
You do this a few times a week and you've GOT the up-to-date Gentoo already. The "Gentoo Linux 2004.1" is mainly a new version for the install CD's.
And I've also been using Gentoo since about last October and haven't looked back. It's kinda cool since I built this system from scratch (bought the components and case etc etc and slapped it all together) and then built the OS from scratch that goes on it. This machine has never run any other OS...hehe, it hasn't been "tainted".
And as far as compiles go, people saying that it takes forever are full of it. I let mine emerge sync at night and it's ready to roll in the morning. The only time I ever reboot my machine is when I have major Kernel upgrades (for instance going from 2.6.4 to 2.6.5 etc). And even then that only takes about 10 minutes...tops.
Gentoo is a great distro. And personally, it was the easiest to get up and running. And I know EXACTLY what is loaded and what isn't. Not a lot of un-needed crap that other distros tend to throw in for no good reason.
I've been watching Windows Media streams for a long time now with Linux...using mplayer.
In fact, I watch quicktime, windows media, divx etc etc with mplayer. I've been doing that for a long time now.
So how is this new? How can they say they're the first major Linux distributor to license and ship a media player capable of streaming Windows Media audio and video? My media player now is capable of viewing this.
Or do they mean a server that can stream Windows Media?
Enlighten me please. Or is mplayer not suppose to be doing all of this?
Someone should point out to Sun before they get into bed with Microsoft: "There is only one Lord of the Ring, only one who can bend it to his will. And he does not share power"
I like the fact that instead of it being a V-8 engine it's a W-16 engine.
It would be interesting putting this engine into a truck or some working vehicle...but there are probably more efficient engines out there, like a diesel?
Interesting read though.
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Oh, the d20 system is fine. I was just pointing out that I kinda liked the pain and misery of using the 2nd edition rules of AD&D. It's more nostalgia than anything else.
I just didn't like the d20 system being put to the Call of Cthulhu system...which I thought was fine as it was, and still is, as the fans sort of rose up and told Chaosium what they thought of it.
But your certainly right, if someone was going to go back to D&D or someone is new to it, the d20 rules are better than trying to wade through the quagmire that is the 2nd edition. I just entered the 2nd edition when it first came out...so I was used to everything back then. I wouldn't wish it now on my worse enemy...well, maybe my WORSE enemy.
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oh wow. I said "when" instead of "went". Wow, you're so smart to point this out! Yes, I failed out of school and have been a loser all my life because I didn't spell a word right on a post.
By the way genius, it's spelled "grammar". Here's a tip, if you're going to correct others on something so mundane and petty as spelling and grammar, make sure your post is right.
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I remember playing this for the first time back in 1980. We were playing "AD&D" by the way...hehe.
The second edition rules were a cludge...everyone knew that...but that's why I loved them. I loved how they worked. When the d20 system came into being..I felt it just lost something. Hard to track down. The second edition rules with their patched together charts...the rules that contradicted other rules etc...that was just part of the fun.
But the ultimate insult was when "Call of Cthulhu" when to a d20 system. Yes, you can still play with the old rules...which were better...than using the d20 system, but still. They should have just well enough alone. "Call of Cthulhu" was and still is my favorte PnP role playing game. Bar none.
But the AD&D games me and my friends would play around 1989ish were some of the best times I've had with a group of goof-balls joking around, drinking huge amounts of caffine drinks and pizza and generally just having a good time.
Yeah, but don't you find when you're doing your...um...computational astrophysicist stuff or you're at your...telescope or something...microscope thingy...whatever you scientists use to do your scientists things, and you need to make a quick calculation or something. Isn't it easier to just grab a calculator or something?
Or just grab a scrap of paper and a pencil and figure it out in your head.
Saw Matrix....not original. If you want to get down to it, it's almost like an extention of a holodeck-gone-wild episode of ST:TNG with some fortune-cookie philosophy thrown in....but hey, with great special effects!
Lost in Translation...not bad. Yes, this was an original take on the old fish-out-of-water type story.
American Beauty...One of my favorites
But for every American Beauty there are 2 Scooby Doo's and yet another unfunny SNL bit expanded into an equally unfunny movie.
But bottom line, could I personally do better? No...but that doesn't stop me from complaining!
Yeah, that's kinda what I was saying...that's what the movie executives would say if someone pitched them an original idea:
Nah, the kids won't go, they don't like that kinda stuff...gimmie a remake or something....hey, I know, we'll make "Manimal: The Motion Picture"...that's great...have my secretary write up a script and start shooting Friday...now get outta here...
How about we come up with something original. Why not make an original movie...not a re-make, not based on a tv show, not based on a video game, not based on a SNL skit...
How about someone make a movie that's original?
Hmmmm....nah, it'll never work! The kids don't like stuff like that.
A supermajor company is one that can buy and sell elections...can run a country totally with money/power...can ruin entire communities if they decide to relocate to a cheaper place.
If your company with one employee can obtain that, then you've got a good business model.
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My wife and I would go out of our way to get the Pepsies with the promotion. We won quite a few times.
It wasn't a bad promotion, but many times we had to go out of our way to even find the Pepsies with the offer. They were hard to find.
I ment worked in natively into the Gimp.
Which begs to question: if they have these plug-ins already, why are they working now to includ CMYK into the Gimp now?
And yes, I knew about this already, but as you can see right in there web page: "A plugin providing rudimentary CMYK support for The GIMP"
What can it do?
* Convert an RGB image to individual CMYK layers, using specified source and destination Colour Profiles.
* Save such a collection of layers as a CMYK TIFF.
* Proof the CMYK image on the monitor. (I don't think this is currently working correctly)
* Perform a "duotone" separation on an RGB image, reducing it to just those colours achievable with red and black ink. (This feature does *not* use colour-profiles!)
What can't it do?
* Load CMYK TIFFs into individual layers. If you want to edit a CMYK image, save it in XCF format as well as CMYK TIFF, so the layers are preserved for future editing.
* Embed ICC profiles in the generated TIFF.
* Perform the "duotone" trick based on any colour other than red.
So while you're sitting pretty smug with the knowledge that thought you'd show us the way, it's still not quite what the pre-press world is looking for...sorry.
Five seconds of a little thought go a long way. Yes, CMYK is kinda sorta there for the Gimp...but "kinda sorta" doesn't cut it. Yet.
The Gimp project IS working on native CMYK editing right there...live. Give it time. I want to be able to load a CMYK TIFF, not convert it to anything, color correct it in CMYK, and then save it back out as a CMYK TIFF. I also want the ability to have 6-7-8 extra color touch plates to a file...then save it out. This plug-in doesn't do that.
But yes, it's a step in the right direction. So sorry, your 5 seconds and a little googling didn't go anywhere.
This is great news! It's been so long since I've been out there at a concert.
But it's interesting that I've always thought that the Dead kinda killed Jerry. Sure, his years of substance abuse had much to do with it. But when you get most of your income from touring, you have this huge "machine" that is dependant on you to keep going. Jerry didn't have much time to take time off and just relax. Yes, he had money, but you also have to think of the roadies and secretaries and other people that kept the Dead going...they had bills to pay and house mortgages etc. Jerry carried a huge weight on his shoulders.
But in the end, I feel like you, that this certainly should be the wave of the future in the music industry. The Dead and Phish certainly don't rely on hit records...as the Dead only had one hit in their long strange trip.
Look at Gimp 2.0...you'll notice they've come a long way to make it a better interface. And it looks quite PS like.
The artists are starting to come over to Gimp now, since it's free and it shows in 2.0.
Now, if I could get my keyboard shortcuts to work exactly like they did with PS I'd be happier. hehe
Also, using 5th and 6th color touch plates wouldn't be hard to do once CMYK comes out.
We always did 6 color PS files and broke out the 5th and 6th colors as seperate PS files (for instance putting like PMS 300 on the Cyan sep and PMS XXX on the Magenta plate). Then send them to the page assembly dept to trap them in ArtPro...
But this is all dependent on Gimp getting CMYK...once it does, all the tricks and work arounds we used to use with older versions of PS can come into play.
Could be helpfull to small shops...but who knows.
Well, I'm a knowledgeable professional. In fact, I could almost boast you'd be hard pressed to find someone with more knowledge and experience with Photoshop. I say this with pride and arrogance because frankly I can. (though I know, there's always someone better than you out there...).
Now, having said this...The Gimp is "getting there". No, it doesn't have CMYK yet...yet. And it doesn't have color profiles, but those are in the works.
But you're correct...no one in pre-press would use LaTeX. But as for The Gimp, will it take over Photoshop? Well, I don't have my crystal ball back from the shop yet, so it's anyone's guess. But I will say with every new version of Photoshop coming down the pike, it's getting more and more bloated. PS was one of the few apps spared from bloatware for a while, but I guess that's gone. But when someone is running it on a dual G5 with 8 gigs of ram, it doesn't really matter.
Also, with the Gimp getting better and better it gives Adobe competition in an area that it's so long dominated. Competition can only be good for the end user.
And I'm an idiot...
But that's obvious
Depends on the band really. Some bands like The Greatfull Dead used to let you hook right into the mixing board to record the concert...which is why there are so many good Dead bootlegs out there.
I think Phish lets you do this also...and others. But then again, this may be a thing of the past.
Well, it does take time, it also depends on what time of day.
But then again, some people don't feel they're ever helped it seems. I'm not saying you're one of them of course, but some don't have the patience.
It is free by the way. I've found #gentoo an enormous help when I was first installing my system. They helped me get everything up and running and pointed out certain areas I would need to look more into etc etc. I was amazed at how helpfull.
But I understand you can't please everyone all the time. All I can say is if you're ignored at first, or they were busy helping others, just try back later.
Should IRC and #gentoo be used in place of a tech support service, of course not. But you may find that it's a very nice place to get help.
Thanks! Something that slipped through the cracks for me.
Gentoo emerge -UD world FUCKS UP configuration files.
/etc/._cfg0000_gentoo-release while keeping the original /etc/gentoo-release untouched.
/etc -iname '._cfg????_*'
um..if you knew anything about Gentoo then you would know that it doesn't touch configuration files, if there is a new config file it will rename the NEW file as something like
After the emerge it will tell you that some files config files need to be looked at, a simple:
find
will give you a list of the config files that need updating. Yes. Gentoo even informs you how to find these files. and nice big fat: "use 'emerge --help config' message is staring you right in the face if any new config files need updating.
This isn't something you can just bypass. Nice try. But please, give us a little credit if you're going to make something up!
irc.freenode.net /join #gentoo
Very helpfull people there. Base install of Gentoo comes with "irssi" IRC client that you can hook up to right from the install CD. Ask your question (no need to ask "can I ask a question") and try to be as specific as you can.
Now, this IS an IRC channel so you might run into a few knuckleheads there, but be patient and you WILL be helped. The people there are very well versed and many of the OPs are themselves Gentoo developers and they know the system. They will help.
I go there to help also. It's my small way of giving something back to the community as I'm not a developer, but I can try to help others.
Most people are very patient there, but if you're asking a question that's plainly right in the install guide, they'll direct you to that usually.
Don't be a jerk there and you'll do fine. Others I've seen log into the channel and go "this sucks, I can't get this and this working...Gentoo sucks...I can't do anything". Then when no one responds in about 20 seconds they shout "how come no one wants to help me...this sucks". And on and on. Some people are beyond help it seems...and not for just and OS install either, hehe.
If you use, as I do:
"emerge sync && emerge -UDvp world"
once a day, or once every other day or so (not more than this, once daily should be enough, if you do it more it could slow down the rsync servers...don't be greedy).
You do this a few times a week and you've GOT the up-to-date Gentoo already. The "Gentoo Linux 2004.1" is mainly a new version for the install CD's.
And I've also been using Gentoo since about last October and haven't looked back. It's kinda cool since I built this system from scratch (bought the components and case etc etc and slapped it all together) and then built the OS from scratch that goes on it. This machine has never run any other OS...hehe, it hasn't been "tainted".
And as far as compiles go, people saying that it takes forever are full of it. I let mine emerge sync at night and it's ready to roll in the morning. The only time I ever reboot my machine is when I have major Kernel upgrades (for instance going from 2.6.4 to 2.6.5 etc). And even then that only takes about 10 minutes...tops.
Gentoo is a great distro. And personally, it was the easiest to get up and running. And I know EXACTLY what is loaded and what isn't. Not a lot of un-needed crap that other distros tend to throw in for no good reason.
I've been watching Windows Media streams for a long time now with Linux...using mplayer.
In fact, I watch quicktime, windows media, divx etc etc with mplayer. I've been doing that for a long time now.
So how is this new? How can they say they're the first major Linux distributor to license and ship a media player capable of streaming Windows Media audio and video? My media player now is capable of viewing this.
Or do they mean a server that can stream Windows Media?
Enlighten me please. Or is mplayer not suppose to be doing all of this?
Sun = Saruman
Microsoft = Sauron
Someone should point out to Sun before they get into bed with Microsoft: "There is only one Lord of the Ring, only one who can bend it to his will. And he does not share power"
I like the fact that instead of it being a V-8 engine it's a W-16 engine.
It would be interesting putting this engine into a truck or some working vehicle...but there are probably more efficient engines out there, like a diesel?
Interesting read though.
Oh, the d20 system is fine. I was just pointing out that I kinda liked the pain and misery of using the 2nd edition rules of AD&D. It's more nostalgia than anything else.
I just didn't like the d20 system being put to the Call of Cthulhu system...which I thought was fine as it was, and still is, as the fans sort of rose up and told Chaosium what they thought of it.
But your certainly right, if someone was going to go back to D&D or someone is new to it, the d20 rules are better than trying to wade through the quagmire that is the 2nd edition. I just entered the 2nd edition when it first came out...so I was used to everything back then. I wouldn't wish it now on my worse enemy...well, maybe my WORSE enemy.
oh wow. I said "when" instead of "went". Wow, you're so smart to point this out! Yes, I failed out of school and have been a loser all my life because I didn't spell a word right on a post.
By the way genius, it's spelled "grammar". Here's a tip, if you're going to correct others on something so mundane and petty as spelling and grammar, make sure your post is right.
I remember playing this for the first time back in 1980. We were playing "AD&D" by the way...hehe.
The second edition rules were a cludge...everyone knew that...but that's why I loved them. I loved how they worked. When the d20 system came into being..I felt it just lost something. Hard to track down. The second edition rules with their patched together charts...the rules that contradicted other rules etc...that was just part of the fun.
But the ultimate insult was when "Call of Cthulhu" when to a d20 system. Yes, you can still play with the old rules...which were better...than using the d20 system, but still. They should have just well enough alone. "Call of Cthulhu" was and still is my favorte PnP role playing game. Bar none.
But the AD&D games me and my friends would play around 1989ish were some of the best times I've had with a group of goof-balls joking around, drinking huge amounts of caffine drinks and pizza and generally just having a good time.
Hello Skynet...hello Blade Runner...and all the other sci-fi prophecies we were warned about in the past.
I for one welcome...well, you know the drill.
Yeah, but don't you find when you're doing your...um...computational astrophysicist stuff or you're at your...telescope or something...microscope thingy...whatever you scientists use to do your scientists things, and you need to make a quick calculation or something. Isn't it easier to just grab a calculator or something?
Or just grab a scrap of paper and a pencil and figure it out in your head.
Saw Matrix....not original. If you want to get down to it, it's almost like an extention of a holodeck-gone-wild episode of ST:TNG with some fortune-cookie philosophy thrown in....but hey, with great special effects!
Lost in Translation...not bad. Yes, this was an original take on the old fish-out-of-water type story.
American Beauty...One of my favorites
But for every American Beauty there are 2 Scooby Doo's and yet another unfunny SNL bit expanded into an equally unfunny movie.
But bottom line, could I personally do better? No...but that doesn't stop me from complaining!
Yeah, that's kinda what I was saying...that's what the movie executives would say if someone pitched them an original idea:
Nah, the kids won't go, they don't like that kinda stuff...gimmie a remake or something....hey, I know, we'll make "Manimal: The Motion Picture"...that's great...have my secretary write up a script and start shooting Friday...now get outta here...
How about we come up with something original. Why not make an original movie...not a re-make, not based on a tv show, not based on a video game, not based on a SNL skit...
How about someone make a movie that's original?
Hmmmm....nah, it'll never work! The kids don't like stuff like that.
A supermajor company is one that can buy and sell elections...can run a country totally with money/power...can ruin entire communities if they decide to relocate to a cheaper place.
If your company with one employee can obtain that, then you've got a good business model.