I did read the article, the PDF file, but I must have missed that part of it. I didn't read everything word for word as most of it was minute detail that didn't (or so I though before posting) matter.
It all started with an eBay auction for a new G4 Powerbook. My friend Cory wanted me to sell it for him just days after he bought it. Probably because he realized, aside from looking cool, he had no real use for it.
Does anyone else think this is fishy in itself? After buying a new Powerbook, you say "Hey, it looks cool, but I really don't need it...here, sell it on eBay for me".
Couldn't he just return it? He had just bought it a few days earlier. Also, he must have known that he wasn't going to get back what he paid for it...so just for the sake of "looking cool" for a few days, he wasted a few hundred bucks? Yet the writer of the story says that he needed people to "kick in" for shipping to London for the scaming of the scammer...couldn't he just ask his rich friend that throws away money for the cash?
The whole thing sounds like it's totally made up, that there was no eBay auction and the guy that wrote it just was going for basic laughs...and everything in it is pure fiction. I'm probably wrong and everyone will say "but I saw all the stuff and was watching the posts"...but couldn't one person have done everything themself, stringing the viewers along for the laugh?
Funny? yes...real? I'm not so sure. Either way, real or fake, the guy that wrote it is very creative and a gifted writer!
True, but still...not quite the same thing as in a live action movie.
I've seen all Miyazaki's movies, both English and then Japanese. Even in Japanese the words don't quite match up to the lips...sure, much better than English does. But the high quality English versions are just as watchable as the Japanese ones.
I was refering more to anime snobs who even refuse to call it by the English name. They won't say "Sprited Away", instead they'll say "Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi". Guess it's their way to make people think they're cool. I know this first hand because 2 of my friends are like this and they drive everyone crazy with this crap.
Did a bunch of people take little Timmy to see South Park the Movie? I don't think so.
That attitude hasn't been in America for a long time. Yes, there were complaints about 10 years ago, but not really anymore.
South Park got complaints, but not because it was animated and people were made because they took their kids to it. It gets complaints today...but for content. Just like a Howard Stern get's complaints. It's mainly bizzy-body jerks who think they know best for everyone else.
Though I will tell a story some 20 years ago when I was standing in line at a video store to rent a movie, some woman behind me had an 8 year old with her. He was complaining that she didn't get him a movie to watch and she said "yes I did, I got Spiderwoman for you".
I turned around and sure enough, she had "Kiss of the Spider Woman"...which I'm sure we all know is NOT a kids movie.
Same thing happened when I went to see the original Jurrasic Park. I don't know how many people brought their kids to "see the dinosaurs...see, it's just like Barney the dinosaur". The first showing I went to wasn't that good because of so many kids crying. But in a way, it was also funny.
It's been said to death here already, but I'll try to break it down.
Pixar doesn't make movies oriented towards children, they make movies oriented towards FAMILIES.
You know, those movies where both adults and children can both go together and both enjoy the movie on an equal basis. A movie made for children is more like the Rugrats or Pokemon movies.
Also, the attitude that animation is the domain of children is long gone now in America. Maybe it was back in the 70's, but when you have hit shows like South Park and The Simpsons that are clearly NOT oriented towards children, you're argument falls apart.
You seem like one of those anime snobs that belive there is no good animation coming out anywhere other than Japan. Have you even seen any of Pixar movies? Are you also one of those people that try to act cool AND trendy by saying "I hate dubbed anime movies, I only like the original"...knowing full well ALL animation is dubbed, no matter what language. But I digress...
Then again, those three guys you jest at actually did a cool thing. They dreamt about something and they up and made it. And it wasn't a cheap and easy feat either.
In this cynical world where people crap on anything and everything someone else does...yet they themselves do nothing but sit and surf the web, it's refreshing to see someone actually BUILD something they think is cool, just for the sake of building it.
These two guys were out camping in the Alaska wilderness. During the night, this huge grizzly rips through their tent trying to grab one of them to eat.
They both panic and start to scramble out of the tent, but one stops and puts his shoes on.
"What are you doing" the other says "you can't possibly out run that thing".
The tent-mate says while getting up "I don't have to out run the bear...I just have to outrun YOU".
Thank you...Thank you....I'm hear all zee week...try the fish...
People can't even stand watching porn when the guy wears a rubber, let alone computer completely artificial porn.
Of course, not wearing rubbers is one of the contributing factors of the current HIV scare in the industry at the moment.
True, when watching an adult movie, many look at it as a fantasy, to view it as living vicariously through others if you will. While viewing an adult movie set in like 1777 and then someone throws on a latex rubber kinda kills the mood. True, this isn't really why people are watching these movies, but still.
Perhaps, with this digital skin, the industry can make movies in the future (perhaps 10 years for truely believable ones) that doesn't put people in jepardy to STD's, AND it doesn't exploit young girls. But I'm sure there will be some people that object to even digital actors "exploiting themselves".
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Now summertime's here babe, need somethin' to keep you cool Ah now summertime's here babe, need somethin' to keep you cool Better look out now though, Dave's got somethin' for you I'm your ice cream man, stop me when I'm passin' by Oh my my, I'm your ice cream man, stop me when I'm passin' by See now all my flavors are guaranteed to satisfy Hold on a second baby I got good lemonade, ah, dixie cups All flavors and push ups too I'm your ice cream man, baby, stop me when I'm passin' by See now all my flavors are guaranteed to satisfy
Yes, but some effects look like CGI in some movies. I mean, the T-Rex looked real in that it fit perfectly into it's environment and looked like it was "there" with Jeff Goldblume.
Other movies you can just see that it's not real.
But I agree with you about the motion of WETA's creatures. For instance, Gollum was a true actor. When ever I see a character that is animated by an animator, for instance Gobby the House Elf in Harry Potter, they tend to OVER animate. This is the curse of Disney on modern animators.
What looks good and works well for a Disney movie that is 2D and hand drawn...the over animation...the overplayed gestures for instance...doesn't always work in a movie that combines live action with CGI animation. Notice when you have an actor on the screen, they don't wildly over gesture with their arms and head movements (unless it's part of a scene of course). While Harry was standing there talking, Gobby couldn't stand still. It was kind of "wrong". But I guess I'm the only one that noticed this.
While Gollum was truly acted. Whole scenes where he wasn't moving around in the frame for the sake of moving around.
I guess my ham-fisted way of trying to explain this isn't coming through, but I hope people understand.
Indeed, the good effect is where it comes off as believable and not even noticed. It doesn't matter HOW they did the effect, the bottom line is if it works in the movie.
There are certainly scenes though in movies where it's an obvious effect and doesn't look real. But the ultimate moments in modern effects is where the ONLY way you could tell it's an effect is knowing in your head that such things don't exist.
To this day, one of the most convincing scene is still the original "Jurrasic ParK" where Jeff Goldblum strikes his flair and waves it at the T-Rex...the scene where the T-Rex is chasing him looks like they captured a real T-Rex and put it in the movie. I mean, my jaw just dropped.
There are certainly parts in the LOTR movies that are like this also, that you only know they are effects because they couldn't have done them in real life. Sure, there are parts of these movies where the effects fall short...with the amount of shots in this movie and the amount of time and limit of money (yes, 350 million for 3 huge movies isn't really that much these days), there will be some scenes that could have used more attention. For instance the warg scene in "The Two Towers" could have used more work (PJ even comments on this in the commentary for the DVD). But still, the scene works.
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There's a engineering project that's been around for some time now that offers the best noise-cancelation technology out there. It's quite easy to do, almost a 30 minute project for you DIY'ers (do it yourself). But so far, the results are almost 100% perminate.
The only tool you need is an ice-pick and perhaps quite a few ultra-absorbant towels to help with the clean-up afterwards.
After this project, you'll never again be bothered by advertisers sound projection systems. I can also go into a project that will cancel out visual advertisements.
I can't recall the taste of food, nor the sound of water, nor the touch of grass. I'm naked in the dark. There's nothing - no veil between me and the wheel of fire. I can see him with my waking eyes.
I'm glad to be with you, Redhat 9... here, at the end of all things.
You cannot always be torn in two, RH. You must be one and a whole for many years. You have so much to enjoy, and to be, and to do...
I run a fan in our room at night as it is. I started doing this in college because if I didn't, I'd never get any sleep. The fan would drown out all the noise from people coming and going in the dorm.
I just continued this on. Of course now, I suppose if someone were to break into my house I'd never hear it...but that's why I have my dog...vicious little blighter that he is.
Yes, I can see if you're recording something this could hinder you.
But for day to day, I'd go crazy if it was so quiet in here that I could actually hear the fan in my computer...then if I couldn't even hear that and the room was REALLY quiet...
For consumers, it's a different story, but if they didn't want the bloat, then there are tonnes of budget options around with more trusting names than The Gimp.
Huh?
You would use something else because of the name? Never mind the power of the application, never mind that it's in many peoples eyes second only to (if not better than) Photoshop?
And yes, PS is bloated compaired to what it used to be. This is almost always the case as a product goes on and on. They add more and more features to make people want to upgrade...or else they would just stick with an old version if it works for them. As it stands now, PS and it's upgrades have so far been worth it. But not all of Adobe's products are like that. Go to any pre-press house and see how many are still using Illustrator 6...there are people still out there because they totally mucked it up on 7, tried to fix it in 8 and played fix-it with 9 and finally with 10. (hint, with Illustrator versions, stick with even numbers).
And please, until you actually use The Gimp, you have no idea that it's "some freebie that leaves them playing catch-up in features".
Now, having defended the Gimp here, I will say that in my job I still use Photoshop and I fly with it. We do assemblies with it that would curl your hair (like 1.5 gig layered photoshop files). Next time you see any Keebler packages in the grocery store, please note they're all assembled, drawn, color corrected and partially trapped in Photoshop. Type and raster art is done in Illustrator and then sent to ArtPro for trapping. The Gimp couldn't fit anywhere into our production flow yet.
I've often marveled at the continued pursuit of a noiseless computer. Is this that big of a deal? I often have music or the TV or something else going on in the house where I never ever even hear the fan on my computer.
Are we talking about ultra-sensitive people out there that can't stand any noise at all?
I was just fooling around of course. But my main point was lost on many people.
I was trying to point out is that of course someone who is a "Linux and open source industry analyst" is going to be very pro-Linux and very bullish on Linux...much like someone who is a Mac and OSX industry analyst is going to be very pro-Mac and have starry eyes for their platform of choice and profession.
I wasn't of course saying that these platforms couldn't overtake Windows...I was just pointing out that of course someone who writes about and promotes something will obviously predict great things for it.
a Linux and open source industry analyst. She explains why she feels Linux will overtake Windows as the number one operating system within the next three years
Wow, what a revelation! Here's some more:
1. A Mac and OSX industry analyst explains why they feel Macintosh will overtake Windows.
2. A FreeBSD industry analyst explains why they feel BSD will overtake Windows.
3. An Amiga fan in his basement explains why they feel the Amiga will overtake Windows.
4. A slide-rule professor in a bunker on the island of Midway still thinks the war with Japan is still happening...how he got on this list I don't know....
Yes, this is true...I wish they would fix that too.
I'm sure there's a way to do it, but I don't know either.
I'm so desperatly trying to get Gimp to work on Linux like PS did on OSX...but I suppose I'm just going to have to learn a new way of doing things. Which isn't bad in the end.
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Where is this stated? That 'real' high encryption is illegal in the US? I'd be interested in reading that.
This isn't part of the patriot act is it? How can that stand up in court?
I did read the article, the PDF file, but I must have missed that part of it. I didn't read everything word for word as most of it was minute detail that didn't (or so I though before posting) matter.
Oh well. Still, it's a funny read.
It all started with an eBay auction for a new G4 Powerbook. My friend Cory wanted me to sell it for him just days after he bought it. Probably because he realized, aside from looking cool, he had no real use for it.
Does anyone else think this is fishy in itself? After buying a new Powerbook, you say "Hey, it looks cool, but I really don't need it...here, sell it on eBay for me".
Couldn't he just return it? He had just bought it a few days earlier. Also, he must have known that he wasn't going to get back what he paid for it...so just for the sake of "looking cool" for a few days, he wasted a few hundred bucks? Yet the writer of the story says that he needed people to "kick in" for shipping to London for the scaming of the scammer...couldn't he just ask his rich friend that throws away money for the cash?
The whole thing sounds like it's totally made up, that there was no eBay auction and the guy that wrote it just was going for basic laughs...and everything in it is pure fiction. I'm probably wrong and everyone will say "but I saw all the stuff and was watching the posts"...but couldn't one person have done everything themself, stringing the viewers along for the laugh?
Funny? yes...real? I'm not so sure. Either way, real or fake, the guy that wrote it is very creative and a gifted writer!
I was thinking the same thing.
I still have my NeXTStation Color...not that it's working at the moment, but I just can't part with it.
True, but still...not quite the same thing as in a live action movie.
I've seen all Miyazaki's movies, both English and then Japanese. Even in Japanese the words don't quite match up to the lips...sure, much better than English does. But the high quality English versions are just as watchable as the Japanese ones.
I was refering more to anime snobs who even refuse to call it by the English name. They won't say "Sprited Away", instead they'll say "Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi". Guess it's their way to make people think they're cool. I know this first hand because 2 of my friends are like this and they drive everyone crazy with this crap.
Did a bunch of people take little Timmy to see South Park the Movie? I don't think so.
That attitude hasn't been in America for a long time. Yes, there were complaints about 10 years ago, but not really anymore.
South Park got complaints, but not because it was animated and people were made because they took their kids to it. It gets complaints today...but for content. Just like a Howard Stern get's complaints. It's mainly bizzy-body jerks who think they know best for everyone else.
Though I will tell a story some 20 years ago when I was standing in line at a video store to rent a movie, some woman behind me had an 8 year old with her. He was complaining that she didn't get him a movie to watch and she said "yes I did, I got Spiderwoman for you".
I turned around and sure enough, she had "Kiss of the Spider Woman"...which I'm sure we all know is NOT a kids movie.
Same thing happened when I went to see the original Jurrasic Park. I don't know how many people brought their kids to "see the dinosaurs...see, it's just like Barney the dinosaur". The first showing I went to wasn't that good because of so many kids crying. But in a way, it was also funny.
It's been said to death here already, but I'll try to break it down.
Pixar doesn't make movies oriented towards children, they make movies oriented towards FAMILIES.
You know, those movies where both adults and children can both go together and both enjoy the movie on an equal basis. A movie made for children is more like the Rugrats or Pokemon movies.
Also, the attitude that animation is the domain of children is long gone now in America. Maybe it was back in the 70's, but when you have hit shows like South Park and The Simpsons that are clearly NOT oriented towards children, you're argument falls apart.
You seem like one of those anime snobs that belive there is no good animation coming out anywhere other than Japan. Have you even seen any of Pixar movies? Are you also one of those people that try to act cool AND trendy by saying "I hate dubbed anime movies, I only like the original"...knowing full well ALL animation is dubbed, no matter what language. But I digress...
Then again, those three guys you jest at actually did a cool thing. They dreamt about something and they up and made it. And it wasn't a cheap and easy feat either.
In this cynical world where people crap on anything and everything someone else does...yet they themselves do nothing but sit and surf the web, it's refreshing to see someone actually BUILD something they think is cool, just for the sake of building it.
How can you say that? Leo Leporte treats his viewers like they're 3rd graders.
Actually, Leo is one of the nicest people on the face of the planet. When someone is having a problem, he is patient enough to walk them through it.
Not to mention the fact that Leo has many times shown how easy it is to get Linux up and running on a machine.
The Screen Savers is a great show.
These two guys were out camping in the Alaska wilderness. During the night, this huge grizzly rips through their tent trying to grab one of them to eat.
They both panic and start to scramble out of the tent, but one stops and puts his shoes on.
"What are you doing" the other says "you can't possibly out run that thing".
The tent-mate says while getting up "I don't have to out run the bear...I just have to outrun YOU".
Thank you...Thank you....I'm hear all zee week...try the fish...
People can't even stand watching porn when the guy wears a rubber, let alone computer completely artificial porn.
Of course, not wearing rubbers is one of the contributing factors of the current HIV scare in the industry at the moment.
True, when watching an adult movie, many look at it as a fantasy, to view it as living vicariously through others if you will. While viewing an adult movie set in like 1777 and then someone throws on a latex rubber kinda kills the mood. True, this isn't really why people are watching these movies, but still.
Perhaps, with this digital skin, the industry can make movies in the future (perhaps 10 years for truely believable ones) that doesn't put people in jepardy to STD's, AND it doesn't exploit young girls. But I'm sure there will be some people that object to even digital actors "exploiting themselves".
Now summertime's here babe, need somethin' to keep you cool
Ah now summertime's here babe, need somethin' to keep you cool
Better look out now though, Dave's got somethin' for you
I'm your ice cream man, stop me when I'm passin' by
Oh my my, I'm your ice cream man, stop me when I'm passin' by
See now all my flavors are guaranteed to satisfy
Hold on a second baby
I got good lemonade, ah, dixie cups
All flavors and push ups too
I'm your ice cream man, baby, stop me when I'm passin' by
See now all my flavors are guaranteed to satisfy
Yes, but some effects look like CGI in some movies. I mean, the T-Rex looked real in that it fit perfectly into it's environment and looked like it was "there" with Jeff Goldblume.
Other movies you can just see that it's not real.
But I agree with you about the motion of WETA's creatures. For instance, Gollum was a true actor. When ever I see a character that is animated by an animator, for instance Gobby the House Elf in Harry Potter, they tend to OVER animate. This is the curse of Disney on modern animators.
What looks good and works well for a Disney movie that is 2D and hand drawn...the over animation...the overplayed gestures for instance...doesn't always work in a movie that combines live action with CGI animation. Notice when you have an actor on the screen, they don't wildly over gesture with their arms and head movements (unless it's part of a scene of course). While Harry was standing there talking, Gobby couldn't stand still. It was kind of "wrong". But I guess I'm the only one that noticed this.
While Gollum was truly acted. Whole scenes where he wasn't moving around in the frame for the sake of moving around.
I guess my ham-fisted way of trying to explain this isn't coming through, but I hope people understand.
Indeed, the good effect is where it comes off as believable and not even noticed. It doesn't matter HOW they did the effect, the bottom line is if it works in the movie.
There are certainly scenes though in movies where it's an obvious effect and doesn't look real. But the ultimate moments in modern effects is where the ONLY way you could tell it's an effect is knowing in your head that such things don't exist.
To this day, one of the most convincing scene is still the original "Jurrasic ParK" where Jeff Goldblum strikes his flair and waves it at the T-Rex...the scene where the T-Rex is chasing him looks like they captured a real T-Rex and put it in the movie. I mean, my jaw just dropped.
There are certainly parts in the LOTR movies that are like this also, that you only know they are effects because they couldn't have done them in real life. Sure, there are parts of these movies where the effects fall short...with the amount of shots in this movie and the amount of time and limit of money (yes, 350 million for 3 huge movies isn't really that much these days), there will be some scenes that could have used more attention. For instance the warg scene in "The Two Towers" could have used more work (PJ even comments on this in the commentary for the DVD). But still, the scene works.
There's a engineering project that's been around for some time now that offers the best noise-cancelation technology out there. It's quite easy to do, almost a 30 minute project for you DIY'ers (do it yourself). But so far, the results are almost 100% perminate.
The only tool you need is an ice-pick and perhaps quite a few ultra-absorbant towels to help with the clean-up afterwards.
After this project, you'll never again be bothered by advertisers sound projection systems. I can also go into a project that will cancel out visual advertisements.
I can't recall the taste of food, nor the sound of water, nor the touch of grass. I'm naked in the dark. There's nothing - no veil between me and the wheel of fire. I can see him with my waking eyes.
I'm glad to be with you, Redhat 9... here, at the end of all things.
You cannot always be torn in two, RH. You must be one and a whole for many years. You have so much to enjoy, and to be, and to do...
I run a fan in our room at night as it is. I started doing this in college because if I didn't, I'd never get any sleep. The fan would drown out all the noise from people coming and going in the dorm.
I just continued this on. Of course now, I suppose if someone were to break into my house I'd never hear it...but that's why I have my dog...vicious little blighter that he is.
Yes, I can see if you're recording something this could hinder you.
But for day to day, I'd go crazy if it was so quiet in here that I could actually hear the fan in my computer...then if I couldn't even hear that and the room was REALLY quiet...
I would, in short, go quite insane...
For consumers, it's a different story, but if they didn't want the bloat, then there are tonnes of budget options around with more trusting names than The Gimp.
Huh?
You would use something else because of the name? Never mind the power of the application, never mind that it's in many peoples eyes second only to (if not better than) Photoshop?
And yes, PS is bloated compaired to what it used to be. This is almost always the case as a product goes on and on. They add more and more features to make people want to upgrade...or else they would just stick with an old version if it works for them. As it stands now, PS and it's upgrades have so far been worth it. But not all of Adobe's products are like that. Go to any pre-press house and see how many are still using Illustrator 6...there are people still out there because they totally mucked it up on 7, tried to fix it in 8 and played fix-it with 9 and finally with 10. (hint, with Illustrator versions, stick with even numbers).
And please, until you actually use The Gimp, you have no idea that it's "some freebie that leaves them playing catch-up in features".
Now, having defended the Gimp here, I will say that in my job I still use Photoshop and I fly with it. We do assemblies with it that would curl your hair (like 1.5 gig layered photoshop files). Next time you see any Keebler packages in the grocery store, please note they're all assembled, drawn, color corrected and partially trapped in Photoshop. Type and raster art is done in Illustrator and then sent to ArtPro for trapping. The Gimp couldn't fit anywhere into our production flow yet.
really...
I've often marveled at the continued pursuit of a noiseless computer. Is this that big of a deal? I often have music or the TV or something else going on in the house where I never ever even hear the fan on my computer.
Are we talking about ultra-sensitive people out there that can't stand any noise at all?
Yes, this shouldn't have been "insightful".
I was just fooling around of course. But my main point was lost on many people.
I was trying to point out is that of course someone who is a "Linux and open source industry analyst" is going to be very pro-Linux and very bullish on Linux...much like someone who is a Mac and OSX industry analyst is going to be very pro-Mac and have starry eyes for their platform of choice and profession.
I wasn't of course saying that these platforms couldn't overtake Windows...I was just pointing out that of course someone who writes about and promotes something will obviously predict great things for it.
And please look into what a slide-rule is and also look into what and where Midway Island is.
a Linux and open source industry analyst. She explains why she feels Linux will overtake Windows as the number one operating system within the next three years
Wow, what a revelation! Here's some more:
1. A Mac and OSX industry analyst explains why they feel Macintosh will overtake Windows.
2. A FreeBSD industry analyst explains why they feel BSD will overtake Windows.
3. An Amiga fan in his basement explains why they feel the Amiga will overtake Windows.
4. A slide-rule professor in a bunker on the island of Midway still thinks the war with Japan is still happening...how he got on this list I don't know....
So now using cute icons for kids make a user interface better?
Guess you just looked at screen shots instead of actually using it. Pity...
Yes, this is true...I wish they would fix that too.
I'm sure there's a way to do it, but I don't know either.
I'm so desperatly trying to get Gimp to work on Linux like PS did on OSX...but I suppose I'm just going to have to learn a new way of doing things. Which isn't bad in the end.
You mean you missed the big honking Pepsi logo right in the middle of the iTunes home page that said "Redeem your free song here"?