Come on!!! It's freakin' hilarious, no matter what side you are on. What next, they ban the wind from blowing except at scheduled times?
Jesus (Descending from the Heavens): I have returned to save the suffering and punish the sinners. Chinese Government: Did you fill out your forms? I don't see the rapture on our schedule. You must clear this with the ministry of cultural affairs before this can proceed.
Don't run from the real point: the only way to properly implement OOXML is to use MS Office. Any other method, and you can never implement the whole specification.
The best way to measure the productivity of the admin is to measure how little his job interferes with the workers that use his system. You could even take measurements on how much more productive other employees become month to month using whatever the admin supplies: if the system gets a new piece of software that allows the other employees to do their job in half the time, the admin should get credit.
And God has been kicking himself in the ass every day for creating English at Babel. Why in the hell do you need both restful and restless to mean the same thing? One million words in a language? Reduce the language to just one word for everything and you'll be fine.
Maybe you should make the use everything in the language to write a program a part of your job interview questions. As for remembering whether stuff is dereferenced or not, I didn't find it to be any trouble. Look at what java and C# have gone through: java had to introduce clunky wrapper classes, but since they don't allow operator overloading, you have to know whether you are dealing with an int or Integer and whether to write.add() or +. C# added "ref", but that's no different than C++.
There was a story on NPR about how the internet is allowing people to find stage musicians without having to be in the same location. A guy wrote the lyrics and the lead guitar for a song and recorded it. He then sent it to someone over 1000 miles away who added drums, another guy to add base, and then to a guy to make sure it all sounded good together. And he found all of this online.
We all need to remember that Windows was not fully formed as the OS running on all of these machines. It did coincide with the creation of the PC, but it had to fight - with treachery - to get to where it is today. Linux is well on its way to becoming the OS that people will use, in part because of the way Microsoft is treating people, but Linux is just getting better. Anecdote: About two months ago I took my kids' eMachines desktop that we've had for four years, wiped XP off of it and installed Debian. After setting up accounts for my two oldest boys, and configuring their desktop, I showed them where everything is and let them go. My oldest, 12, is using Gimp, some other paint programs, and I am teaching him Python. My middle son, 7, gets to most of the websites he likes to visit, and recently asked his mom why she doesn't have Linux installed on her computer.
While I agree with your arguments about most people not needing to upgrade, I don't think the OLPC machine has anything to do with this. The systems today are powerful enough that most people don't need to upgrade. My dad's laptop is 5 years old, and other than me throwing in a bigger hard drive and XP, it's powerful enough for him.
I don't think anyone who has access to something besides the OLPC machine will find it very appealing. It will be too slow for what people can get to. My dad did upgrade twice from his original machine to get to his current one. It took a bit to get to where his computer could do everything he wanted at a pace he was comfortable with.
Why don't we all start our own distributions. At a million per distribution, Microsoft could afford to pay off about 2,000 of us before they even began to break a sweat. And they still wouldn't have slowed down anything. This just shows how they are still trying to apply old business models to Linux.
Yes, it is actually, for the kinds of people Microsoft is trying to swindle. You might find it "obvious" to do a search through Microsoft's website, look in all of the searches to find a link that matches exactly what you want, but most people, after they cannot get to their documents, are going to feel that the only thing that they can do is buy the new one. And this is exactly what Microsoft wants.
I don't find it complicated to replace the breaks, oil, filters, and serpentine belt on my car, but I know plenty of "smart" people who think that you have to take the car to the dealer to get this done.
If I'm a company selling hardware and games, I can either appeal to the few million hard core gamers, or to the other few billion people. I like $250 times a few billion, especially when I am making a profit on each machine.
As an owner of a Wii, I don't see any reason they cannot make hard games. "Hard" has nothing to do with the number of colors that can be drawn or how many buttons are required.
$100Billion in sales. Works for me. Oh yeah, and then there's the DS.
What most people do in computer programming is like carpentry, and for that all you need to do is memorize how to write a few loops and and which methods to call. But then, every once in a while, you need something truly earthshaking, like solving string subsequence matching (comparing DNA sequences) in O(n**2) rather than O(2**n), and then you have to run to the people who can do the math. Another example is when people thought the best way to do AI was to mimic the neuron, but then, by applying some rigorous math, you end up with Support Vector Machines.
First, make sure you tell us when someone is hired for your job solely because he or she is cheaper than you. I also guarantee you that it has nothing to do with their skills. I see it in my work, where they are replacing someone with 15 years of experience with some having 1.5 years just because they are cheaper. And asking the experienced employee to train the new one.
Second, I want to make sure the scope is narrowed correctly: this is about jobs inside the United States. Now that we have that set up, this is why us US citizens: 1. Citizens of this country pay taxes to fund the military, police, fire, ambulance, and other services that ensure the safety of the companies that are based here. 2. Citizens of this country serve in the military, and have their sons and daughters serve in the military to protect this country, providing a safe place for companies here to work without fear of having their stuff taken. 3. We fund a government that follows and enforce laws so that all companies know what rules apply to them, with the expectation that the same laws apply to all companies in the same way. This allows companies to focus on producing whatever products and services they wish, without worrying about having the rules change next week. 4. Cities in the US constantly defer taxes to attract businesses so that businesses will contribute to the local environment.
This stability comes at price: You cannot get this stability without paying employees so that they can pay taxes. If companies no longer hire the people in the cities they want to build, there will be no reason for cities to offer incentives. Since the US spends so much money on the military, reduced taxes result in a reduced military, which results in risks to the companies - if you don't think that will cause problems wait until there are 6 different Navies patrolling different parts of the ocean, rather than one Navy ensuring safe navigation, you'll have a bribe at each boundary. And then go to a country where the government doesn't enforce laws like bribery and extortion. And then there is the fact that we cost this much because companies like it when we buy their stuff because we want it. Everyone has to buy bread, but it's the big screen TVs being sold that boost the economy.
Nope, according to the bible, which we have to take to mean exactly what it says (we are creationists):
Gen 3:7 - Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
"Free" in free software is used the same way free is used in democracy. I am a free man. But free does not give me the ability to rob another person. My freedom comes with the responsibility to do the right thing, and I get punished if I don't. The same with free software. You are free to do with the software what you will, but you are not allowed to steal it, or claim it as your own.
Why would some people choose the GPL over BSD? Because of what we see companies like Microsoft doing with BSD code: Let's incorporate all of this code into our product, sell it, and use the money as a monopoly to eliminate those who created the code in the first place. Would people still release the code under the GPL if Microsoft didn't exist? Sure, for the same reason the Constitution would still exist even if everyone did the right thing.
The last time "free" meant what you mean was in the time of the Greeks, when you were not truly free unless you could enslave someone else. That's not my kind of free.
Since they were willing to play games with code under GPL2 the same way that Microsoft and Novell were, it's obvious they didn't use Linux because they believed in the freedom it granted. They chose it because someone else had already written it. If that's all they want the software for, they either need to go buy the software or find a BSD version. If they want to use GPL software, they need to follow it's rules.
There are plenty of people who might argue that this is not customer oriented, but like RMS, I think the exact opposite is true. Which gives more options to the customer: 1. Take the computer as is. 2. Take the computer and be able to modify the software.
Now, if Tivo wants to make a closed system, they need to develop their own software. The don't have to choose software under the GPL.
I think all of this ultimately gets to Nintendo's point. Microsoft and Sony went after "gamers" and Nintendo went after everyone else. Guess which market is larger? It will be interesting to see the kind of titles that do come out, but with Zelda, Metroid, and the reported Star Wars game it could be interesting.
The arguments going on sound very much like the conversation James Cameron supposedly had with the movie studio when he was making Titanic, something to the effect of:
Studio: But your movie is only targeted to females. You'll only get half the population in the theater.
Cameron: I wish.
And because he only got half the entire population in, rather than the 13-17 year old males who like explosions, he now has the highest grossing movie of all time. Nintendo isn't making the worlds best game console, it's making one people will buy. And it's actually making money on each console, even when it's the lowest price.
Microsoft has stumbled onto a strange new numbering system, that is countable in the same way rational numbers are countable, but even though it is finite, you cannot see all of the items being "counted".
The downside I see is that they have to do any and all updates themselves. They also have to make sure that their update feature does not pull any packages that includes software running under GPL3. It doesn't prevent one of their users from pulling down software under the license, they just cannot distribute it themselves. You might be able to argue that this would be a gray area, but I would think Microsoft and Novell would want to stay away from these uncertainties.
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Come on!!! It's freakin' hilarious, no matter what side you are on. What next, they ban the wind from blowing except at scheduled times?
Jesus (Descending from the Heavens): I have returned to save the suffering and punish the sinners.
Chinese Government: Did you fill out your forms? I don't see the rapture on our schedule. You must clear this with the ministry of cultural affairs before this can proceed.
Don't run from the real point: the only way to properly implement OOXML is to use MS Office. Any other method, and you can never implement the whole specification.
The best way to measure the productivity of the admin is to measure how little his job interferes with the workers that use his system. You could even take measurements on how much more productive other employees become month to month using whatever the admin supplies: if the system gets a new piece of software that allows the other employees to do their job in half the time, the admin should get credit.
Are you Sarah Conner?
Thanks, yeah, I meant restive, I was trying to get out the door when I wrote that one.
And God has been kicking himself in the ass every day for creating English at Babel. Why in the hell do you need both restful and restless to mean the same thing? One million words in a language? Reduce the language to just one word for everything and you'll be fine.
.add() or +. C# added "ref", but that's no different than C++.
Maybe you should make the use everything in the language to write a program a part of your job interview questions. As for remembering whether stuff is dereferenced or not, I didn't find it to be any trouble. Look at what java and C# have gone through: java had to introduce clunky wrapper classes, but since they don't allow operator overloading, you have to know whether you are dealing with an int or Integer and whether to write
There was a story on NPR about how the internet is allowing people to find stage musicians without having to be in the same location. A guy wrote the lyrics and the lead guitar for a song and recorded it. He then sent it to someone over 1000 miles away who added drums, another guy to add base, and then to a guy to make sure it all sounded good together. And he found all of this online.
We all need to remember that Windows was not fully formed as the OS running on all of these machines. It did coincide with the creation of the PC, but it had to fight - with treachery - to get to where it is today. Linux is well on its way to becoming the OS that people will use, in part because of the way Microsoft is treating people, but Linux is just getting better. Anecdote: About two months ago I took my kids' eMachines desktop that we've had for four years, wiped XP off of it and installed Debian. After setting up accounts for my two oldest boys, and configuring their desktop, I showed them where everything is and let them go. My oldest, 12, is using Gimp, some other paint programs, and I am teaching him Python. My middle son, 7, gets to most of the websites he likes to visit, and recently asked his mom why she doesn't have Linux installed on her computer.
While I agree with your arguments about most people not needing to upgrade, I don't think the OLPC machine has anything to do with this. The systems today are powerful enough that most people don't need to upgrade. My dad's laptop is 5 years old, and other than me throwing in a bigger hard drive and XP, it's powerful enough for him.
I don't think anyone who has access to something besides the OLPC machine will find it very appealing. It will be too slow for what people can get to. My dad did upgrade twice from his original machine to get to his current one. It took a bit to get to where his computer could do everything he wanted at a pace he was comfortable with.
Why don't we all start our own distributions. At a million per distribution, Microsoft could afford to pay off about 2,000 of us before they even began to break a sweat. And they still wouldn't have slowed down anything. This just shows how they are still trying to apply old business models to Linux.
Yes, it is actually, for the kinds of people Microsoft is trying to swindle. You might find it "obvious" to do a search through Microsoft's website, look in all of the searches to find a link that matches exactly what you want, but most people, after they cannot get to their documents, are going to feel that the only thing that they can do is buy the new one. And this is exactly what Microsoft wants.
I don't find it complicated to replace the breaks, oil, filters, and serpentine belt on my car, but I know plenty of "smart" people who think that you have to take the car to the dealer to get this done.
If I'm a company selling hardware and games, I can either appeal to the few million hard core gamers, or to the other few billion people. I like $250 times a few billion, especially when I am making a profit on each machine.
As an owner of a Wii, I don't see any reason they cannot make hard games. "Hard" has nothing to do with the number of colors that can be drawn or how many buttons are required.
$100Billion in sales. Works for me. Oh yeah, and then there's the DS.
What most people do in computer programming is like carpentry, and for that all you need to do is memorize how to write a few loops and and which methods to call. But then, every once in a while, you need something truly earthshaking, like solving string subsequence matching (comparing DNA sequences) in O(n**2) rather than O(2**n), and then you have to run to the people who can do the math. Another example is when people thought the best way to do AI was to mimic the neuron, but then, by applying some rigorous math, you end up with Support Vector Machines.
First, make sure you tell us when someone is hired for your job solely because he or she is cheaper than you. I also guarantee you that it has nothing to do with their skills. I see it in my work, where they are replacing someone with 15 years of experience with some having 1.5 years just because they are cheaper. And asking the experienced employee to train the new one.
Second, I want to make sure the scope is narrowed correctly: this is about jobs inside the United States. Now that we have that set up, this is why us US citizens:
1. Citizens of this country pay taxes to fund the military, police, fire, ambulance, and other services that ensure the safety of the companies that are based here.
2. Citizens of this country serve in the military, and have their sons and daughters serve in the military to protect this country, providing a safe place for companies here to work without fear of having their stuff taken.
3. We fund a government that follows and enforce laws so that all companies know what rules apply to them, with the expectation that the same laws apply to all companies in the same way. This allows companies to focus on producing whatever products and services they wish, without worrying about having the rules change next week.
4. Cities in the US constantly defer taxes to attract businesses so that businesses will contribute to the local environment.
This stability comes at price: You cannot get this stability without paying employees so that they can pay taxes. If companies no longer hire the people in the cities they want to build, there will be no reason for cities to offer incentives. Since the US spends so much money on the military, reduced taxes result in a reduced military, which results in risks to the companies - if you don't think that will cause problems wait until there are 6 different Navies patrolling different parts of the ocean, rather than one Navy ensuring safe navigation, you'll have a bribe at each boundary. And then go to a country where the government doesn't enforce laws like bribery and extortion. And then there is the fact that we cost this much because companies like it when we buy their stuff because we want it. Everyone has to buy bread, but it's the big screen TVs being sold that boost the economy.
How about the tourist program in Mona Lisa Overdrive?
Actually, the have an explanation for the dinosaurs: The world had been changed so much after the flood that they couldn't survive.
Nope, according to the bible, which we have to take to mean exactly what it says (we are creationists):
i s+3
Gen 3:7 - Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=genes
"Free" in free software is used the same way free is used in democracy. I am a free man. But free does not give me the ability to rob another person. My freedom comes with the responsibility to do the right thing, and I get punished if I don't. The same with free software. You are free to do with the software what you will, but you are not allowed to steal it, or claim it as your own.
Why would some people choose the GPL over BSD? Because of what we see companies like Microsoft doing with BSD code: Let's incorporate all of this code into our product, sell it, and use the money as a monopoly to eliminate those who created the code in the first place. Would people still release the code under the GPL if Microsoft didn't exist? Sure, for the same reason the Constitution would still exist even if everyone did the right thing.
The last time "free" meant what you mean was in the time of the Greeks, when you were not truly free unless you could enslave someone else. That's not my kind of free.
Since they were willing to play games with code under GPL2 the same way that Microsoft and Novell were, it's obvious they didn't use Linux because they believed in the freedom it granted. They chose it because someone else had already written it. If that's all they want the software for, they either need to go buy the software or find a BSD version. If they want to use GPL software, they need to follow it's rules.
There are plenty of people who might argue that this is not customer oriented, but like RMS, I think the exact opposite is true. Which gives more options to the customer:
1. Take the computer as is.
2. Take the computer and be able to modify the software.
Now, if Tivo wants to make a closed system, they need to develop their own software. The don't have to choose software under the GPL.
If the documentation belongs to Novell, they can burn it for all I care.
I think all of this ultimately gets to Nintendo's point. Microsoft and Sony went after "gamers" and Nintendo went after everyone else. Guess which market is larger? It will be interesting to see the kind of titles that do come out, but with Zelda, Metroid, and the reported Star Wars game it could be interesting. The arguments going on sound very much like the conversation James Cameron supposedly had with the movie studio when he was making Titanic, something to the effect of: Studio: But your movie is only targeted to females. You'll only get half the population in the theater. Cameron: I wish. And because he only got half the entire population in, rather than the 13-17 year old males who like explosions, he now has the highest grossing movie of all time. Nintendo isn't making the worlds best game console, it's making one people will buy. And it's actually making money on each console, even when it's the lowest price.
Microsoft has stumbled onto a strange new numbering system, that is countable in the same way rational numbers are countable, but even though it is finite, you cannot see all of the items being "counted".
The downside I see is that they have to do any and all updates themselves. They also have to make sure that their update feature does not pull any packages that includes software running under GPL3. It doesn't prevent one of their users from pulling down software under the license, they just cannot distribute it themselves. You might be able to argue that this would be a gray area, but I would think Microsoft and Novell would want to stay away from these uncertainties.
The adult version of the golf game would be the Tiger Wood's game. That ought to give him something to do.
Happening on Win2k as well.