But this sets a legal precedent that similar emails will NEVER be subject to the FOIA. The next president will not even have to think twice about it, or bother to hide or lose them. They just don't have to let us see them.
One more method of accountability has been lost. I don't see that as an "Oh Well," situation.
Expect this to me misused. Like police cars or police radios that will kill your video/photo ability on phones while they are in the area. Cops hate to be captured on film/video that they do not control. Or stoping photography/video in areas that would usually be legal, but due to actions that might be questionable like protest(riot) control where excessive force might be applied "don't tase me bro". Or where known/sanctioned violations are happening "terrorist detention/interogation centers", so that whitleblowers would have less evidence of the incident they need to document.
This is like a proactive confiscation of your electronics, without having to ask for it.
Yeah, my first thought was wont this kick televangelism in the nuts.
I mean without having a message intended to cause fear of infinite torture for not following "the word", then how will they ever convert nonbelievers? And this shit is on TV every freakin day, so that meets the repetition requirment. Radio too will have to go too I guess, and even mega-churches cause they use lots of electronics like amps and big-screens. Hell, even most small churchs use electronic P.A. systems.
Yeah, and what about us players who actually install and load the software and then provide the input required to allow the game characters to do the things needed to showcase the work of the animators, programmers, voice actors etc. When do we gat paid?
He didnt say it doesnt come from the rich, he said it doesnt come from the TOYS OF THE RICH. So unless you consider those scientists to be the toys, it looks like his claim holds up.
But maybe if you stuff enough hay in that strawman some folks will take it out for dinner and dancing.
I was more worried I would have to boycott Spore. Checking in when I DL content is ok cause then I am connected, but if the game is going to stop working due to extended lack of access to a connection, well... fuck em.
Tell ya what, why don't you come over here and stand up to our government. Show us how it's done. But have a look at the Waco Texas stand off from the 90s first.
Your government doesn't seem to have the balls to stand up to our government either by the way.
What the hell is your boss or you for that matter, doing IT stuff in 90-100 degree heat. Seems like they need to call some A/C guys. Seems like lowering the heat 20 or 30 degrees might just solve some of those IT problems.
"Can I stop this thread right now by going straight to the end and asking, So if you had the opportunity to go back in time and kill Hitler in 1925, you wouldn't do it?"
Would this time traveler get to come back here/now after the deed, or would he have to stand trial in 1925 Germany for the murder of an innocent civilian?
Do you think that maybe giving him an artists grant and ticket to the US might solve the same problem? Is killing Hitler before he did anything "nazi" the only way WWII could have been avoided? Were there no other fascist assholes in the world who would have taken his place?
Remember Hitler just expanded what was already going on in Italy. With a fair amount of support here in the states, I might add.
Suppose the US had given aid to the starving and the poor in the years after WWI, would there have been any national desire for a Third Reich?
When your favorite tool is a gun, lots of problems look like a target.
If your only "time travel" solution to WWII is killing Hitler, then I dont want you anywhere near a time machine... or a gun.
"Tandy and Commodore were not used in businesses, usually."
I have a TRS-80 Model 4-P that shows otherwise.
When the TRS line started, it was almost exclusivly for small business and business education. I bought mine used and the guy who sold it to me had nearly everything that was made for it. There wasnt much science or entertainment stuff, but if you needed to do payroll, accounting, inventory, use a database, write a program in any popular language of the day etc.etc, I had (the media is probably corrupt after all this time) the retail software package to do it.
I think the guy said it cost him 3500 bucks new for the hardware. About 1/2- 1/3 the price of a new car. If you wanted a gaming computer, you bought the much cheaper CoCo. The models 1-4, pocket computer and the others were VERY business minded.
I wonder if that old beast will still boot... eh too lazy to dig it out.
"So, because the internet is a technological system, it isn't used to transmit FUD or lies, or making shit up."
Oh no, it IS used to transmit FUD and lies for sure. Just that it is not "magical" in nature, that was my point. As it turns out, it is also not operated on tube based methodology.
I think the "the magical place where, in lieu of hard facts, you can just make shit up" is called a church. As I understand it, the internet is a technological system, and not magical at all.
Next week, when this becomes RIAA policy on how much we are allowed to listen to that 15.99 CD, you know, when the cost of maintaining a studio is so high. I mean really, the customers arent even making a dent. So, pick your fav 12 seconds of your fav song from your fave band, and enjoy it as much as you like. On headphones. Once.
I guess thats why they call our side of the economic situation, demand. If we didnt want things what good would it do them to make anything?
And exactly how is anyone supposed to avoid thinking about what they want in a given game?
Tell ya what, next time there is a game I liked, I'll drop you a note so you can tell me what YOU want from the next one. And I'll think about it and then post it. Just doing my part to make you're publisher/developer forum experience a little less about the rest of the us gamers, and a bit more about YOU.
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"I cannot wait until these greedy corporate motherfuckers take it in the ass when the revolution comes"
The revolution has already happened, in the 1960s. We lost/gave up/sold out/bought in.
C.
"Oh well, only a few months left.
But this sets a legal precedent that similar emails will NEVER be subject to the FOIA. The next president will not even have to think twice about it, or bother to hide or lose them. They just don't have to let us see them.
One more method of accountability has been lost. I don't see that as an "Oh Well," situation.
C.
I want to invest in this...just as soon as I can try one out for a few months. But it sounds like bullshit so far.
C.
Yep, with a gadget like this, who needs laser pointers?
C.
Expect this to me misused. Like police cars or police radios that will kill your video/photo ability on phones while they are in the area. Cops hate to be captured on film/video that they do not control. Or stoping photography/video in areas that would usually be legal, but due to actions that might be questionable like protest(riot) control where excessive force might be applied "don't tase me bro". Or where known/sanctioned violations are happening "terrorist detention/interogation centers", so that whitleblowers would have less evidence of the incident they need to document.
This is like a proactive confiscation of your electronics, without having to ask for it.
C.
Yeah, my first thought was wont this kick televangelism in the nuts.
I mean without having a message intended to cause fear of infinite torture for not following "the word", then how will they ever convert nonbelievers? And this shit is on TV every freakin day, so that meets the repetition requirment. Radio too will have to go too I guess, and even mega-churches cause they use lots of electronics like amps and big-screens. Hell, even most small churchs use electronic P.A. systems.
Oops.
C.
Yeah, and what about us players who actually install and load the software and then provide the input required to allow the game characters to do the things needed to showcase the work of the animators, programmers, voice actors etc. When do we gat paid?
C.
Because the other Shaltinack's jupilberry shrub is always a more mauvey shade of pinky russette?
Doesn't the Pope have direct communication with god? Why doesn't he just ask for christ's sake?
C.
He didnt say it doesnt come from the rich, he said it doesnt come from the TOYS OF THE RICH. So unless you consider those scientists to be the toys, it looks like his claim holds up.
But maybe if you stuff enough hay in that strawman some folks will take it out for dinner and dancing.
I was more worried I would have to boycott Spore. Checking in when I DL content is ok cause then I am connected, but if the game is going to stop working due to extended lack of access to a connection, well... fuck em.
If Ben Stein couldnt keep a highschool class awake, what good is he going to do for a seven year old? Anyone? Anyone?
C.
Do atheists really need to pay sin taxes?
When will they get round to taxing false gods, murder, adultry, being dishonorable to your parents and eating meat on friday?
To serve the people...
It's a cookbook.
"Because of a few pedophiles we are banning children?"
Actually a better analogy there would probably be banning genetalia, to fight pedophiles.
Tell ya what, why don't you come over here and stand up to our government. Show us how it's done. But have a look at the Waco Texas stand off from the 90s first.
Your government doesn't seem to have the balls to stand up to our government either by the way.
Seems to some folks that, believing in an invisible "all being" who wants humans to do things, IS a mental disability. So yeah.
What the hell is your boss or you for that matter, doing IT stuff in 90-100 degree heat. Seems like they need to call some A/C guys. Seems like lowering the heat 20 or 30 degrees might just solve some of those IT problems.
"Can I stop this thread right now by going straight to the end and asking, So if you had the opportunity to go back in time and kill Hitler in 1925, you wouldn't do it?"
Would this time traveler get to come back here/now after the deed, or would he have to stand trial in 1925 Germany for the murder of an innocent civilian?
Do you think that maybe giving him an artists grant and ticket to the US might solve the same problem? Is killing Hitler before he did anything "nazi" the only way WWII could have been avoided? Were there no other fascist assholes in the world who would have taken his place?
Remember Hitler just expanded what was already going on in Italy. With a fair amount of support here in the states, I might add.
Suppose the US had given aid to the starving and the poor in the years after WWI, would there have been any national desire for a Third Reich?
When your favorite tool is a gun, lots of problems look like a target.
If your only "time travel" solution to WWII is killing Hitler, then I dont want you anywhere near a time machine... or a gun.
"Tandy and Commodore were not used in businesses, usually."
I have a TRS-80 Model 4-P that shows otherwise.
When the TRS line started, it was almost exclusivly for small business and business education. I bought mine used and the guy who sold it to me had nearly everything that was made for it. There wasnt much science or entertainment stuff, but if you needed to do payroll, accounting, inventory, use a database, write a program in any popular language of the day etc.etc, I had (the media is probably corrupt after all this time) the retail software package to do it.
I think the guy said it cost him 3500 bucks new for the hardware. About 1/2- 1/3 the price of a new car. If you wanted a gaming computer, you bought the much cheaper CoCo. The models 1-4, pocket computer and the others were VERY business minded.
I wonder if that old beast will still boot... eh too lazy to dig it out.
"So, because the internet is a technological system, it isn't used to transmit FUD or lies, or making shit up."
Oh no, it IS used to transmit FUD and lies for sure. Just that it is not "magical" in nature, that was my point. As it turns out, it is also not operated on tube based methodology.
Just FYI.
I think the "the magical place where, in lieu of hard facts, you can just make shit up" is called a church. As I understand it, the internet is a technological system, and not magical at all.
Next week, when this becomes RIAA policy on how much we are allowed to listen to that 15.99 CD, you know, when the cost of maintaining a studio is so high. I mean really, the customers arent even making a dent. So, pick your fav 12 seconds of your fav song from your fave band, and enjoy it as much as you like. On headphones. Once.
Damn brain, no work. spelling no good, grammer bad. Me sucks.
I guess thats why they call our side of the economic situation, demand. If we didnt want things what good would it do them to make anything?
And exactly how is anyone supposed to avoid thinking about what they want in a given game?
Tell ya what, next time there is a game I liked, I'll drop you a note so you can tell me what YOU want from the next one. And I'll think about it and then post it. Just doing my part to make you're publisher/developer forum experience a little less about the rest of the us gamers, and a bit more about YOU.