Agreed, it's a stupid idea not least because it relies on the ISP's being willing to spend money implementing the vast amount of technology necessary to make it work and risk losing customers to ISP's who perhaps have not implemented such a watertight system. In short it's the copyright groups who want this to happen but they want the ISPs to pay for it for them which I just can't see ever happening.
Already in the UK where this was first proposed the ISP trade body has flatly said it's not their job to monitor any of the content of their users since this is already contrary to other laws they have to abide by and they are going to oppose any such stupid ideas as strongly as they can.
I read the article and I think all they proved was that aspects of the boat design which didn't impact it's operation changed more frequently than design elements which did impact the boats operation. E.g. drawings on the boats change quite frequently whereas hull design remains pretty much the same.
The reason for this is obviously that when people build boats which don't work because perhaps they stupidly left a large hole in the bottom of it not many other boat builders copy this new design, they don't make another boat in that way again and decide in future to limit their own artistic licence with the boat they're building to parts which don't cause it to sink.
Perhaps that is something like natural selection but the above is the actual reason for this observation.
Deborah S. Rogers, a research fellow at Stanford, said their findings demonstrate that "some cultural choices work while others clearly do not
I think what she probably meant to say was that some engineering choices physically work whilst others don't.
I have no clue how the second part of the article relates to the first part, on the one hand we learn about this study of boats and then without warning it appears to launch into a rant about living close to nature and modern civilisation being doomed if we don't learn how to 'ethically' change societies to submit to their masters will.
Examples of cultural approaches that are putting humans at risk include "everything from the economic incentives, industrial technologies and growth mentality that cause climate change, pollution and loss of biodiversity, to the religious polarization and political ideologies that generate devastating conflict around the globe,"
Surely everything humans do put us and themselves at risk, there is no such thing as a risk free course of action and Rogers doesn't really say why these things are any riskier than anything else we might decide to do. Since society has obviously taken several hundred thousand years to reach the point its at now and Rogers previously said that things which work tend to remain central parts of human cultures then surely what we're doing now we're doing because it works best.
The brightest are often the first killed off by fascist regimes
To be fair if you're the one being ground under the jackboot then you're probably not that bright after all from a passing on your genes point of view.
I'm surprised he isn't able to torture those members of the house who dissent until they bend to his will, it is the security of the United States which is at risk here and any reasonable person would understand that all available measures must be employed to maintain that security.
Ok, so they wrote a letter. They then proceeded to use violence against the authorised military force of the governing body which would certainly be considered terrorism by todays standards.
Screw that, thats nothing they've got systems now that can loop rays right around the sun and see the licence details of the car which will be in that lot 1 hour from now !
I think you'll find that non US citizens aren't actually legally considered to be human and can't therefore be afforded any of the rights enshrined in the US Bill Of Rights and are subject to treatment in whatever fashion the US feels is appropriate.
I'm pretty sure you'll find that once your dead all your energy goes to feeding the worms and fertilising the soil. A lot of people go on about this when they try to justify the "something" which might happen when you're dead but they also think people have some sort of non physical energy which power them and that it is this which is then conserved, unfortunately I don't think we have ever discovered any such energy.
Not a problem for me, I inspire feelings of love and respect wherever I go so the last thing I need is some sort of jury genetically engineered against my abilities and considering the raw facts. I won't even get as far as ruling a small section of the local park with that sort of unfair handicap, never mind the world.
I always avoid people charging over the odds for shipping but I don't think you can say what this guy did is deceitful, his postage charges were laid out in his auctions and that's what he charged. If the buyer doesn't agree with the stated prices then they shouldn't make a bid, it's not right to argue about the price you have agreed to when you make a bid once the auction is over and this is basically what it sounds like happened here.
Fascinating ! It is interesting though that there are a fair amount of positive comments about XP and most of the moaning is just cautious types saying they'd prefer to wait for SP2 and the stick in the mud types saying Win2k is good enough for them.
Nothing like these modern Vista threads where many people are actually saying Vista is worse than XP.
Yes, my operatives and I communicate in the following fashion. We type our pre-arranged phrase into google at the agreed time and select a link at a particular ranking determined by a complicated formula involving the day of the week, the number of days from Easter and various other classified terrorist statistics. The nearest link in the page which links to some sort of open forum is then used to post the coded message which my operative will then read. This explains a lot of, what people think are, the trolls here on/..
I think Iran is actually a democratic country so the people there have just as much opportunity to vote their leaders out of power when they don't agree with their actions as the US does.
It's all too obvious that anything the Bush regime says about Iran is entirely motivated by their apparent desire to invade it and is likely to be just as baseless as the things they said about Iraq when they wanted to invade that.
Off-topic ? Come on moderators can't you see the point that pronouncements by RMS on the subject of washing powder would be at least as interesting as this article ( such as it is ) and probably more useful.
If was looking for someone to inaugarate my gurudwhana then I might look for a guru or if I was looking for someone to give my pop band a little of bit of credibility and some publicity I might have them go see a guru but if I wanted to consolidate my servers in an Active Directory forest and save my company tons of money I probably wouldn't look for a guru.
The child needs to be under 5ft tall, anything bigger causes problems with their processing. As soon as they confirm delivery they'll mail the laptop out to you.
Amazing, if this Stallman person is thinking of getting one then maybe I should too. I wonder what brand of washing powder he uses because I'm not totally satisfied with the softness ( or lack of ) I get with the persil tablets I am currently using.
Where exactly do you think I made that assumption ? If you read the post to which I was responding then you will see that I was commenting directly on the practices that the parent post was saying he uses and thinks are a good idea.
You seem to be under the impression that nothing in the world ever changes, this is an observation which is obviously incorrect. For example if Hertz initally have the best deal for rental cars there's no guarantee that in a years time Avis won't have improved it's offerings and be able to do you a better deal.
Blindly assuming that one is better than the other and discouraging anyone in your company from actually finding out if thats the case is a a good example of moronic stupidity.
I agree many users are totally clueless when it comes the systems they're using but equally most users don't even know what accounting system their company uses - they just fill in purchase requests, or what courier arrangements they have - they just put the parcel in the box but their business is most definately aware of these things and will have chosen the best courier service to meet their needs and be doing their accounting in a fashion which meets all their legal and financial requirements.
The point is that someone is in charge of choosing which applications the company uses and they'll be the ones who face the choice of using either a document format which they can use regardless of which application vendor they use or one which is tied into a particular vendor. Purely on that basis you'd have to be crazy not to take the open document format but unfortunately the waters are not quite that clear so they will also have to take other factors into account, for instance how well their spreadsheet documents integrate with their documents, whether they can be used easily in automated business processes and other similar things. These other factors currently play into Microsofts hands since it does have the largest installed base of office software and no doubt wont be breaking its balls to treat odf documents as well as it treats it's own 'standard' but the more noise both Microsoft, IBM or any other interested parties make the more educated the companies decision makers will be and the more the market for effective office software should open up.
Exactly and it's my suspicion that a company whos business model is actually in line with their customers requirements is going to be more successful than one whos business model basically relies on customers behaving in a way which suits Microsoft and attempts to enforce that behaviour by removing the customers choices.
I think IBM are absolutely right when they say that the customers prefer to have documented open standards which can be supported by a variety of different applications from different vendors.
I can see no case at all to support Microsofts point of view that it's better to use a document format which is supported by only one company that can only be guaranteed to work with their products and where this guarantee is not set in stone and could be subject to change at the whim of the company.
From a business point of view anything which maintains the lock in to Microsofts Office products is good for Microsoft and anything which is truly open benefits IBM and as I said above I think what the customer wants in this case is also the same thing IBM want which means IBM are going to be getting a lot of goodwill for pushing their point of view.
It will be interesting to see just how far MS are willing to go to defend their office lock in and whether they will see sense, give in and rely on Office ( which is a good product IMHO ) to compete on a level playing field with it's competitors.
Absolutely, thats why they are only asking for a percentage reduction becuase everyone knows percentages are mathematically the fairest way of leveraging this sort of paridgm shift. Now that the cost of printing, shipping and packaging physical products can be bypassed asking the songwriters to reduce their % in order to refect the cheaper cost of on-line media is absolutely the fairest way to go.
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Agreed, it's a stupid idea not least because it relies on the ISP's being willing to spend money implementing the vast amount of technology necessary to make it work and risk losing customers to ISP's who perhaps have not implemented such a watertight system. In short it's the copyright groups who want this to happen but they want the ISPs to pay for it for them which I just can't see ever happening.
Already in the UK where this was first proposed the ISP trade body has flatly said it's not their job to monitor any of the content of their users since this is already contrary to other laws they have to abide by and they are going to oppose any such stupid ideas as strongly as they can.
The reason for this is obviously that when people build boats which don't work because perhaps they stupidly left a large hole in the bottom of it not many other boat builders copy this new design, they don't make another boat in that way again and decide in future to limit their own artistic licence with the boat they're building to parts which don't cause it to sink.
Perhaps that is something like natural selection but the above is the actual reason for this observation.
I think what she probably meant to say was that some engineering choices physically work whilst others don't.
I have no clue how the second part of the article relates to the first part, on the one hand we learn about this study of boats and then without warning it appears to launch into a rant about living close to nature and modern civilisation being doomed if we don't learn how to 'ethically' change societies to submit to their masters will.
Surely everything humans do put us and themselves at risk, there is no such thing as a risk free course of action and Rogers doesn't really say why these things are any riskier than anything else we might decide to do. Since society has obviously taken several hundred thousand years to reach the point its at now and Rogers previously said that things which work tend to remain central parts of human cultures then surely what we're doing now we're doing because it works best.
To be fair if you're the one being ground under the jackboot then you're probably not that bright after all from a passing on your genes point of view.
I'm surprised he isn't able to torture those members of the house who dissent until they bend to his will, it is the security of the United States which is at risk here and any reasonable person would understand that all available measures must be employed to maintain that security.
On a worringly frequent basis, often without clothing, with inexplicable knife wounds or covered in leaves.
Ok, so they wrote a letter. They then proceeded to use violence against the authorised military force of the governing body which would certainly be considered terrorism by todays standards.
Screw that, thats nothing they've got systems now that can loop rays right around the sun and see the licence details of the car which will be in that lot 1 hour from now !
I think you'll find that non US citizens aren't actually legally considered to be human and can't therefore be afforded any of the rights enshrined in the US Bill Of Rights and are subject to treatment in whatever fashion the US feels is appropriate.
I'm pretty sure you'll find that once your dead all your energy goes to feeding the worms and fertilising the soil. A lot of people go on about this when they try to justify the "something" which might happen when you're dead but they also think people have some sort of non physical energy which power them and that it is this which is then conserved, unfortunately I don't think we have ever discovered any such energy.
Not a problem for me, I inspire feelings of love and respect wherever I go so the last thing I need is some sort of jury genetically engineered against my abilities and considering the raw facts. I won't even get as far as ruling a small section of the local park with that sort of unfair handicap, never mind the world.
Unless, quite obviously, you happen to work as an executioner or a gaoler.
I always avoid people charging over the odds for shipping but I don't think you can say what this guy did is deceitful, his postage charges were laid out in his auctions and that's what he charged. If the buyer doesn't agree with the stated prices then they shouldn't make a bid, it's not right to argue about the price you have agreed to when you make a bid once the auction is over and this is basically what it sounds like happened here.
Fascinating ! It is interesting though that there are a fair amount of positive comments about XP and most of the moaning is just cautious types saying they'd prefer to wait for SP2 and the stick in the mud types saying Win2k is good enough for them.
Nothing like these modern Vista threads where many people are actually saying Vista is worse than XP.
Yes, my operatives and I communicate in the following fashion. We type our pre-arranged phrase into google at the agreed time and select a link at a particular ranking determined by a complicated formula involving the day of the week, the number of days from Easter and various other classified terrorist statistics. The nearest link in the page which links to some sort of open forum is then used to post the coded message which my operative will then read. This explains a lot of, what people think are, the trolls here on /..
I think Iran is actually a democratic country so the people there have just as much opportunity to vote their leaders out of power when they don't agree with their actions as the US does.
It's all too obvious that anything the Bush regime says about Iran is entirely motivated by their apparent desire to invade it and is likely to be just as baseless as the things they said about Iraq when they wanted to invade that.
Off-topic ? Come on moderators can't you see the point that pronouncements by RMS on the subject of washing powder would be at least as interesting as this article ( such as it is ) and probably more useful.
If was looking for someone to inaugarate my gurudwhana then I might look for a guru or if I was looking for someone to give my pop band a little of bit of credibility and some publicity I might have them go see a guru but if I wanted to consolidate my servers in an Active Directory forest and save my company tons of money I probably wouldn't look for a guru.
The child needs to be under 5ft tall, anything bigger causes problems with their processing. As soon as they confirm delivery they'll mail the laptop out to you.
Amazing, if this Stallman person is thinking of getting one then maybe I should too. I wonder what brand of washing powder he uses because I'm not totally satisfied with the softness ( or lack of ) I get with the persil tablets I am currently using.
Where exactly do you think I made that assumption ? If you read the post to which I was responding then you will see that I was commenting directly on the practices that the parent post was saying he uses and thinks are a good idea.
You seem to be under the impression that nothing in the world ever changes, this is an observation which is obviously incorrect. For example if Hertz initally have the best deal for rental cars there's no guarantee that in a years time Avis won't have improved it's offerings and be able to do you a better deal.
Blindly assuming that one is better than the other and discouraging anyone in your company from actually finding out if thats the case is a a good example of moronic stupidity.
I agree many users are totally clueless when it comes the systems they're using but equally most users don't even know what accounting system their company uses - they just fill in purchase requests, or what courier arrangements they have - they just put the parcel in the box but their business is most definately aware of these things and will have chosen the best courier service to meet their needs and be doing their accounting in a fashion which meets all their legal and financial requirements.
The point is that someone is in charge of choosing which applications the company uses and they'll be the ones who face the choice of using either a document format which they can use regardless of which application vendor they use or one which is tied into a particular vendor. Purely on that basis you'd have to be crazy not to take the open document format but unfortunately the waters are not quite that clear so they will also have to take other factors into account, for instance how well their spreadsheet documents integrate with their documents, whether they can be used easily in automated business processes and other similar things. These other factors currently play into Microsofts hands since it does have the largest installed base of office software and no doubt wont be breaking its balls to treat odf documents as well as it treats it's own 'standard' but the more noise both Microsoft, IBM or any other interested parties make the more educated the companies decision makers will be and the more the market for effective office software should open up.
Exactly and it's my suspicion that a company whos business model is actually in line with their customers requirements is going to be more successful than one whos business model basically relies on customers behaving in a way which suits Microsoft and attempts to enforce that behaviour by removing the customers choices.
I think IBM are absolutely right when they say that the customers prefer to have documented open standards which can be supported by a variety of different applications from different vendors.
I can see no case at all to support Microsofts point of view that it's better to use a document format which is supported by only one company that can only be guaranteed to work with their products and where this guarantee is not set in stone and could be subject to change at the whim of the company.
From a business point of view anything which maintains the lock in to Microsofts Office products is good for Microsoft and anything which is truly open benefits IBM and as I said above I think what the customer wants in this case is also the same thing IBM want which means IBM are going to be getting a lot of goodwill for pushing their point of view.
It will be interesting to see just how far MS are willing to go to defend their office lock in and whether they will see sense, give in and rely on Office ( which is a good product IMHO ) to compete on a level playing field with it's competitors.
Absolutely, thats why they are only asking for a percentage reduction becuase everyone knows percentages are mathematically the fairest way of leveraging this sort of paridgm shift. Now that the cost of printing, shipping and packaging physical products can be bypassed asking the songwriters to reduce their % in order to refect the cheaper cost of on-line media is absolutely the fairest way to go.