Reply to First Point: That link *IS* the big list. If you have a link to every agency, and thier lists, when you search for someone by first and last name, and come up with who you are looking for...that is what I call a "list". Whether 1984 or otherwise, a list is a list.
Reply to Third Point: No, you meant to say it wasn't much of a problem until now. That kind of access...I shudder to think what would happen if the DVD of the Population of Holland started being sold in Hong Kong back alleys.
The point between to celestial bodies (usually a planet and it's moon) where the gravity of one is equal to the gravity of the other is called the Lagrange point.
Usually closer to the smaller of the two bodies, this point is a common location of sci-fi space stations, as there is no need to use an orbit to keep the station from decaying back into the larger bodies atmosphere.
I'm not suggesting the card is impossible to fake, I'm suggesting that you suggest to the woman that it can't be faked.
Same way you scam people when a new bill comes out.
"This don't look like a fifty."
"Oh, I said that too, but I got them from the bank. Remember that story on the news about the new impossible to fake fifty? Looks like monopoly money to me, but..."
"Yeahs, I saw that there story. Crazy government, changin' the moneies. It's the liberal's fault."
"It sure is. Can I have change back in small bills? Thanks."
No problem to break the code. Grab the credit reader itself. Get a part time job, and steal the sucker.
Once you're home, hook it into your laptop, with the laptop active in your knapsack, then stoll the mall, scanning at people.
My point it, you don't need to break the code. You just need the device that can. And I'm sure that the people working the counter at....freaking anywhere give enough of a damn to chase you.
So, when Wal-Mart incorporates this technology, can I just have the bag containing the stolen card near the reader to purchase my illicit goods? And *IF* I am questioned about it, I can say that I didn't know it was in there, and I thought it was going to read my REAL card.
Also, does this mean that around the holidays in the mall, I wont have to hand the card over along with my driver's liscence?
"No, you don't need my ID, maam. Don't you know those cards can't be faked? It's completely secure. Yeah, I heard about it on the news, too. Never need to see my ID again. Compleltly safe. Don't forget to put that $1,235.65 on "credit". okay?"
And while the article says there is a code that can't be re-used for other readers, wont a signal jumper (the ones used to grab car alarm frequencies) still be able to get the 16 digit card number, plus exp. date?
Yeah, sending important financial data through the air sounds like a great idea. To the tech savvy, this is the same as screaming the numbers to the woman behind the register. Would you do that?
As I recall, me, my brother, and his best friend spent the better part of four years searching for the mysterious driver that would unscrew those triangular bolts from the back of the cart.
Shadowrun for the Sega was infinitly superior to it's SNES brother. It allowed for diffrent paths through the game, if, oh lets say, you wanted to play this Role Playing Game in any role other than the one Nintendo decided for you (Dog Shaman).
The problem was, though, the Sega cart's battery life was...less than shperical solid state water ball in Hades.
Extend the consolse's life all you want, but make sure you can equally extend the life of the carts.
You can bring civil suits against the government.
If a high school teaches a student how to enginieer something, how to do the wiring, very well knowing that the student could use that knowledge to violate a copyright, wouldn't they be guilty of inducing a copyright violation?
What about all of those colleges that have Electrical Engineering as a major? All those potential criminals streaming through thier gates, they had to know that one of them could use the information given to them for a criminal purpose.
All it would take is one copyright holder to bring a civil suit against the government for the same amount of damages that they say copyright holders could sue for.(see the DMCA)
"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty, nor security."
Thomas Jefferson said that, and I believe that if he were alive today, he would flee America to start a country where the government doesn't invade your privacy to protect everyone from what you might be capable of. I believe that he would guarantee everyone's Right to Privacy, and state that every person deserves thier life, thier liberty, and thier pursuit of happiness to be un-infringed by thier government. I beileve that he would see today's legislation as infringing on his liberty, and that he would be aghast at what has happened to his ideals, and to his country.
It's my country too, but I have to remember that I can't read what ever I please at the library without it coming up in a database in Washington. They already have the power to pull up the names of every single person who has ever checked out any book in any public library. What makes you think they haven't already? That kind of information at thier beck and call, and you think they haven't looked at it?
Think about that next time you go to the library. Do you remember every book you've every checked out? You can bet Washington does. Have you every read about anything Islamic? In an attempt to understand one of the fastest growing religions on the Earth, have you un-knowingly cast your name into a very large hat of, "persons of interest"?
The other thing that bothers me is the FBI and CIA sharing thier info. While, yes, it is a good thing that intel groups share thier info, and possibly better see terror events coming, it allows the CIA to indirectly monitor the comings and goings of U.S. citizens, which is expressly forbidden by thier charter. The CIA are/not/ allowed to keep any information, or investigate any United States Ciziten. They are supposed to be watching the rest of the world, while the FBI is supposed to keep tabs here. They were kept as separate enities to protect a citizens right to privacy. The CIA is allowed to use methods that the FBI cannot.
But with the sharing of information, the walls come down. The CIA can analyze and categorize data that it was only supposed to collect on other citizens of the world. It allows them to send us through the same filters it uses for terrorists, and what do you think the FBI will do if you fall into the same category as nineteen Egyptians with box-cutters?
Do you think the FBI is going to say, "Well, yeah, thanks CIA, that's good to know, but he is a US Citizen, so we're going to protect his privacy, and liberty, and not investigate(interrogate) his immediate family, co-workers, friends, loved ones, classmates, old baby-sitters, retired teachers of this young man."
Except when a Judge decide's that a juries' verdict is, "Not in keeping with the law." The losing lawyer stands up, and say's, "Motion to set aside the verdict." Then the judge has to decide if the jury was able to make thier decision based on the evidence presented. If an all white jury convicts a black man for raping a 16 year old white girl, even though he was at the wedding of his son, giving a toast at the time, as long as that motion has been made, it throws it to the judge to decide. He can find that the jury blew the call. Overturn a verdict. On the spot.
This also enables a judge to flip "not-guilty" verdicts, too. A woman kills, in cold blood, a man who killed her son, and sells drugs. The jury decided that the drug-dealer "needed killin'" and vote not-guilty. The prosc. can move to overturn the verdict, and the judge can decide that, based on the twelve eye-witness accounts that the woman did in fact kill the drug-dealer in cold blood, and that she *IS* guilty.
Ouroboros isn't a worm. He is a serpent. He is currently holding intertwined with Loki, far under the ground. Earthquakes are caused by Loki writhing as the acid from Ouroboros drips into Loki's open wounds. But don't feel to badly for him. It's a *GOOD* thing that he's held down there. When Loki finally gets loose, that is the start of Ragnarok.
Ouch. You're fucked, noda132.
You just suggested that someone could reproduce 9/11 today. That means you must have some idea of how to do it. That means you might possibly try your plan, if it exists, one day. That means that you are a potential terrorist.
And since anyone could be wire-tapped at any time, you could be wire-tapped. Or being monitored on-line.
Since now it's possible that you might have an idea on how to maybe commit a terrorist act, you need to be investigated.
No, forget that, let's just be safe.
Welcome to G-Bay, noda132.
The problem that the people have with the gun manufacturers is that they know al large percentage(60ish) of thier profits comes from illegal gun sales. Trade shows, gun shows, people paying cash for handguns, without having to wait five days. Since the gun industry is a multi-billion dollar indusrty, those percentage points are huge amounts of money.
The problem is that, even though they *know* that a large amount of money is coming from illegal sales, they do nothing to stop it. Because they don't want to lose the revenue.
So what *would* you need an unregistered illegal gun for?
Police: Welcome to your new home! Confess.
Hawash: I'm under arrest? Aren't you supposed to Mirandize me?
Police: You're not uder arrest. Confess.
Hawash: If I'm not under arrest, let me out of this room.
Police: You are a material witness. Confess.
Hawash: Can I see my family? Or a lawyer?
Police: You can't see a lawyer because you aren't under arrest. Confess.
Hawash: Can I please go? My family might be worried. I have bills to pay.
Police: You aren't leaving, terrorist. Confess.
Having said that, if he can give evidence against his co-conspiriters, there's a good chance he really is guilty.
I must use every sig. For great justice.
What about Legend of Zelda for the NES?
No game is adored and feared as much as the original Zelda. You could spend days in front of that game, and it was NES! If you ever get into the guts of the rom, you'll find out that, to save space, they used executible code as a sound file. That is why it sounds so weird when you kill the bunnies, or blow up a wall.
Don't forget the Second Quest. You haul ass all the way to Ganon, and kick his butt. Then you get to do it, AGAIN! Diffrent overland map! Diffrent dungeons! Harders monsters!
And the cartridge was gold. How cool was that?
This post has to mention Nethack, one of the greatest games out there.
Play a game or two, and you think, "I could beat that score..."
Soon you're hooked. All you do is delve the Dungeons of Doom.
After enough time, you starting thinking in Nethackish.
Your boss appears!
The boss points at you, and curses!
You see a mop.
Turn it off.
Just turn Java off, and JavaScript, and JavaBeans, or whatever.
Boom. Problem solved.
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"America needs another Churchill"
When did we have the first one?
It shouldn't just be us...
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Remember Res. 1441?
The U.N. warned that there would be trouble if Iraq didn't fess up to all, and they meant ALL of thier weapons. Remember that 14K someodd page document that the Iraqi government gave us? It was supposed to be a full listing of thier weapons, just like the U.N. wanted.
It was lies. Not all lies, but lies none the less. Right then, right F-ing then, the U.N., be it in possesion of a backbone, would have started the attack on Iraq. Right then. 1441 was breached.
And this wasn't just us claiming it. Blix himself found the weapons that were NOT on the list. Breach. Iraq knew about those missles, and were moving them around before they were found. Breach. Iraq moved them before they created the 14K page document, so they knew that they were leaving it off the list. Breach.
If the U.N. had backbone, they would have caused, "Serious Consequences" right then. Right then.
But they didn't. Bush beat the war drum long enough, and is threw with it, and is blowing Iraqi soil into the wind as I type.
Make no mistake. I don't like Bush, I didn't vote for him, Ashcroft scares me, and I think that Bush is far too motivated by his religion. But he is right to attack. The U.N. should have already, but they didn't.
It shouldn't just be us.
The Justice Department released today the long awaited upgrade to the "Lawsuit `92" This update will fix the "Well there is always Linux" bug, and the ever persistant crashing or the case's funding.
Alright, there is a small microchip in the card that keeps track of how much money is on it. What's to stop l33t hax0rs from tooling around with a Mr. Electricity Soldering Kit and changing how much is on it? Or better yet, an adaptor that fits into a laptop that let's you add cash with a couple of keystrokes?
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Someone obviously never played E.T.
Reply to First Point: That link *IS* the big list. If you have a link to every agency, and thier lists, when you search for someone by first and last name, and come up with who you are looking for...that is what I call a "list". Whether 1984 or otherwise, a list is a list.
Reply to Third Point: No, you meant to say it wasn't much of a problem until now. That kind of access...I shudder to think what would happen if the DVD of the Population of Holland started being sold in Hong Kong back alleys.
The point between to celestial bodies (usually a planet and it's moon) where the gravity of one is equal to the gravity of the other is called the Lagrange point.
Usually closer to the smaller of the two bodies, this point is a common location of sci-fi space stations, as there is no need to use an orbit to keep the station from decaying back into the larger bodies atmosphere.
I'm not suggesting the card is impossible to fake, I'm suggesting that you suggest to the woman that it can't be faked.
Same way you scam people when a new bill comes out.
"This don't look like a fifty."
"Oh, I said that too, but I got them from the bank. Remember that story on the news about the new impossible to fake fifty? Looks like monopoly money to me, but..."
"Yeahs, I saw that there story. Crazy government, changin' the moneies. It's the liberal's fault."
"It sure is. Can I have change back in small bills? Thanks."
No problem to break the code. Grab the credit reader itself. Get a part time job, and steal the sucker.
Once you're home, hook it into your laptop, with the laptop active in your knapsack, then stoll the mall, scanning at people.
My point it, you don't need to break the code. You just need the device that can. And I'm sure that the people working the counter at....freaking anywhere give enough of a damn to chase you.
So, when Wal-Mart incorporates this technology, can I just have the bag containing the stolen card near the reader to purchase my illicit goods? And *IF* I am questioned about it, I can say that I didn't know it was in there, and I thought it was going to read my REAL card.
Also, does this mean that around the holidays in the mall, I wont have to hand the card over along with my driver's liscence?
"No, you don't need my ID, maam. Don't you know those cards can't be faked? It's completely secure. Yeah, I heard about it on the news, too. Never need to see my ID again. Compleltly safe. Don't forget to put that $1,235.65 on "credit". okay?"
And while the article says there is a code that can't be re-used for other readers, wont a signal jumper (the ones used to grab car alarm frequencies) still be able to get the 16 digit card number, plus exp. date?
Yeah, sending important financial data through the air sounds like a great idea. To the tech savvy, this is the same as screaming the numbers to the woman behind the register. Would you do that?
As I recall, me, my brother, and his best friend spent the better part of four years searching for the mysterious driver that would unscrew those triangular bolts from the back of the cart.
Shadowrun for the Sega was infinitly superior to it's SNES brother. It allowed for diffrent paths through the game, if, oh lets say, you wanted to play this Role Playing Game in any role other than the one Nintendo decided for you (Dog Shaman).
The problem was, though, the Sega cart's battery life was...less than shperical solid state water ball in Hades.
Extend the consolse's life all you want, but make sure you can equally extend the life of the carts.
If it can unlock The Legend of Zelda Theme in Donkey Konga, let me know. I'll get one.
You can bring civil suits against the government.
If a high school teaches a student how to enginieer something, how to do the wiring, very well knowing that the student could use that knowledge to violate a copyright, wouldn't they be guilty of inducing a copyright violation?
What about all of those colleges that have Electrical Engineering as a major? All those potential criminals streaming through thier gates, they had to know that one of them could use the information given to them for a criminal purpose.
All it would take is one copyright holder to bring a civil suit against the government for the same amount of damages that they say copyright holders could sue for.(see the DMCA)
Why fix it? Just give personal boosts to categories.
Funny -2
Informative +3
Insightful +2
That's how I run.
"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty, nor security."
/not/ allowed to keep any information, or investigate any United States Ciziten. They are supposed to be watching the rest of the world, while the FBI is supposed to keep tabs here. They were kept as separate enities to protect a citizens right to privacy. The CIA is allowed to use methods that the FBI cannot.
Thomas Jefferson said that, and I believe that if he were alive today, he would flee America to start a country where the government doesn't invade your privacy to protect everyone from what you might be capable of. I believe that he would guarantee everyone's Right to Privacy, and state that every person deserves thier life, thier liberty, and thier pursuit of happiness to be un-infringed by thier government. I beileve that he would see today's legislation as infringing on his liberty, and that he would be aghast at what has happened to his ideals, and to his country.
It's my country too, but I have to remember that I can't read what ever I please at the library without it coming up in a database in Washington. They already have the power to pull up the names of every single person who has ever checked out any book in any public library. What makes you think they haven't already? That kind of information at thier beck and call, and you think they haven't looked at it?
Think about that next time you go to the library. Do you remember every book you've every checked out? You can bet Washington does. Have you every read about anything Islamic? In an attempt to understand one of the fastest growing religions on the Earth, have you un-knowingly cast your name into a very large hat of, "persons of interest"?
The other thing that bothers me is the FBI and CIA sharing thier info. While, yes, it is a good thing that intel groups share thier info, and possibly better see terror events coming, it allows the CIA to indirectly monitor the comings and goings of U.S. citizens, which is expressly forbidden by thier charter. The CIA are
But with the sharing of information, the walls come down. The CIA can analyze and categorize data that it was only supposed to collect on other citizens of the world. It allows them to send us through the same filters it uses for terrorists, and what do you think the FBI will do if you fall into the same category as nineteen Egyptians with box-cutters?
Do you think the FBI is going to say, "Well, yeah, thanks CIA, that's good to know, but he is a US Citizen, so we're going to protect his privacy, and liberty, and not investigate(interrogate) his immediate family, co-workers, friends, loved ones, classmates, old baby-sitters, retired teachers of this young man."
Sure
Except when a Judge decide's that a juries' verdict is, "Not in keeping with the law." The losing lawyer stands up, and say's, "Motion to set aside the verdict." Then the judge has to decide if the jury was able to make thier decision based on the evidence presented. If an all white jury convicts a black man for raping a 16 year old white girl, even though he was at the wedding of his son, giving a toast at the time, as long as that motion has been made, it throws it to the judge to decide. He can find that the jury blew the call. Overturn a verdict. On the spot.
This also enables a judge to flip "not-guilty" verdicts, too. A woman kills, in cold blood, a man who killed her son, and sells drugs. The jury decided that the drug-dealer "needed killin'" and vote not-guilty. The prosc. can move to overturn the verdict, and the judge can decide that, based on the twelve eye-witness accounts that the woman did in fact kill the drug-dealer in cold blood, and that she *IS* guilty.
Ouroboros isn't a worm. He is a serpent. He is currently holding intertwined with Loki, far under the ground. Earthquakes are caused by Loki writhing as the acid from Ouroboros drips into Loki's open wounds. But don't feel to badly for him. It's a *GOOD* thing that he's held down there. When Loki finally gets loose, that is the start of Ragnarok.
That's not good.
Ouch. You're fucked, noda132.
You just suggested that someone could reproduce 9/11 today. That means you must have some idea of how to do it. That means you might possibly try your plan, if it exists, one day. That means that you are a potential terrorist. And since anyone could be wire-tapped at any time, you could be wire-tapped. Or being monitored on-line. Since now it's possible that you might have an idea on how to maybe commit a terrorist act, you need to be investigated.
No, forget that, let's just be safe.
Welcome to G-Bay, noda132.
The problem that the people have with the gun manufacturers is that they know al large percentage(60ish) of thier profits comes from illegal gun sales. Trade shows, gun shows, people paying cash for handguns, without having to wait five days. Since the gun industry is a multi-billion dollar indusrty, those percentage points are huge amounts of money.
The problem is that, even though they *know* that a large amount of money is coming from illegal sales, they do nothing to stop it. Because they don't want to lose the revenue.
So what *would* you need an unregistered illegal gun for?
Tell Bono that the RIAA made a little twelve year old cry. U2 will come down on them like the Super Friends on a prone Luthor.
Man, that was a great movie. What was I talking about?
I can't remember any special effects at all. Man, that was a great movie.
I think they made it with 300 bucks to pay the camera man. I can't remember any special effects at all.
You should try Momento. I think they made it with 300 bucks to pay the camera man.
Police: Welcome to your new home! Confess.
Hawash: I'm under arrest? Aren't you supposed to Mirandize me?
Police: You're not uder arrest. Confess.
Hawash: If I'm not under arrest, let me out of this room.
Police: You are a material witness. Confess.
Hawash: Can I see my family? Or a lawyer?
Police: You can't see a lawyer because you aren't under arrest. Confess.
Hawash: Can I please go? My family might be worried. I have bills to pay.
Police: You aren't leaving, terrorist. Confess.
Having said that, if he can give evidence against his co-conspiriters, there's a good chance he really is guilty.
I must use every sig. For great justice.
What about Legend of Zelda for the NES?
No game is adored and feared as much as the original Zelda. You could spend days in front of that game, and it was NES! If you ever get into the guts of the rom, you'll find out that, to save space, they used executible code as a sound file. That is why it sounds so weird when you kill the bunnies, or blow up a wall.
Don't forget the Second Quest. You haul ass all the way to Ganon, and kick his butt. Then you get to do it, AGAIN! Diffrent overland map! Diffrent dungeons! Harders monsters!
And the cartridge was gold. How cool was that?
This post has to mention Nethack, one of the greatest games out there.
Play a game or two, and you think, "I could beat that score..." Soon you're hooked. All you do is delve the Dungeons of Doom.
After enough time, you starting thinking in Nethackish.
Your boss appears!
The boss points at you, and curses!
You see a mop.
A moderator appears! It hits! It hits! You die...
Turn it off.
Just turn Java off, and JavaScript, and JavaBeans, or whatever.
Boom. Problem solved.
"America needs another Churchill"
When did we have the first one?
Remember Res. 1441?
The U.N. warned that there would be trouble if Iraq didn't fess up to all, and they meant ALL of thier weapons. Remember that 14K someodd page document that the Iraqi government gave us? It was supposed to be a full listing of thier weapons, just like the U.N. wanted.
It was lies. Not all lies, but lies none the less. Right then, right F-ing then, the U.N., be it in possesion of a backbone, would have started the attack on Iraq. Right then. 1441 was breached.
And this wasn't just us claiming it. Blix himself found the weapons that were NOT on the list. Breach. Iraq knew about those missles, and were moving them around before they were found. Breach. Iraq moved them before they created the 14K page document, so they knew that they were leaving it off the list. Breach.
If the U.N. had backbone, they would have caused, "Serious Consequences" right then. Right then.
But they didn't. Bush beat the war drum long enough, and is threw with it, and is blowing Iraqi soil into the wind as I type.
Make no mistake. I don't like Bush, I didn't vote for him, Ashcroft scares me, and I think that Bush is far too motivated by his religion. But he is right to attack. The U.N. should have already, but they didn't.
It shouldn't just be us.
The Justice Department released today the long awaited upgrade to the "Lawsuit `92" This update will fix the "Well there is always Linux" bug, and the ever persistant crashing or the case's funding.
Alright, there is a small microchip in the card that keeps track of how much money is on it. What's to stop l33t hax0rs from tooling around with a Mr. Electricity Soldering Kit and changing how much is on it? Or better yet, an adaptor that fits into a laptop that let's you add cash with a couple of keystrokes?