I don't have a link, but you should look it up. We pay a leeve on almost any medium that could HOLD music, and that all goes to the music industry. So yes, it is legal. No, seriously, it is.
That's as stupid as saying that I can't look at GPL'ed source code because it would forever taint my ability to be able to code anything outside the GPL.
10,000 houses were reported to be perfectly fine. 6,000,000 people were NOT killed today. See your kid today? Don't worry, chances are Micheal Jackson DID NOT molest him due to media attention, although close sources are admitting that he has been watching an awful lot of rugrats with his pants off lately.
So, lets talk about Linux and how it has a higher TCO than Windows.:P I bet Microsoft didn't factor in all its virus' and shit:P But that's fine, let the fools drown themselves. Idiots deserve to learn lessons the hardway, I believe, and if it gives MS more money to screw with even more idiots, all the better.
But but, he complains about ports being slow because of compile issues. 99% (assumption) of the ports are available as binaries... with a nice text based interface to navagate through them (sysinstall).
Of course, if you are complaining about not having RPM like downloads for packages, well, I think that's hypocritical. I mean, if that was the case, then why even use Linux, Windows has WAY more binaries that you can download.
I hate the whole GNU/whatever trend personally. Names aren't supposed to be all descriptive, they're supposed to be an easy way to identify something. Anyone who doesn't know that Linux doesn't use the GNU userland probably doesn't care enough to know. It's not like it's a hidden statistic.
I propose that instead of GNU/Linux the tools get renamed to GNU/ls GNU/top GNU/gcc.:P
Since the kernel has been turned into a Windows app I'm assuming that when a Linux program asks for a port, it asks the Linux kernel and then that asks Windows.
As far as 127.0.0.1, not that it really matters, but since there is specialized code in the kernel for this... Linux will get the Linux program 127.0.0.1 calls, and Windows will get the Windows program 127.0.0.1 calls.
I've read his manifesto, and I wasn't refering to HIS manifesto. I was refering to all those people, you know, the PEOPLE THAT SAY LINUX IS FREE TO DOWNLOAD. Unless you are, of course, denying their existance.
I dispise this attitude. Yes, I agree that Mandrake should make profits for their work, and that serious users should CONCIDER purchasing it.
What I really hate is the 'Come on in, Linux is free, don't pay for MS CRAP' attitude soon to be followed up by the 'Oh, we got you hooked now. I know we said it's free, but you should buy it anyways, otherwise you're a low life blah blah blah'.
Odd, because it's clearly working on the box I have beside me.
*shrugs* 5.2 seems to be a very solid release, I have no issues with it. I think that DevFS is something that should be more mainstream, it makes a lot more sense than the traditional method.
Yes, we all know that TSG has threatened to sue everyone from George Bush to Jesus Christ, but that doesn't change the fact that they would be fighting against LEGAL PRECEDENT that EXPLICITY prevents the actions they want to go forward with.
Is there AT&T UNIX code in *BSD? Well DUH! Is it illegally there? No, and even, as you will see, some of the Linux code that SCO is claiming was 'illegally put in Linux' without their authorization is *BSD code, furthermore proving that they didn't care to do any research in what they are doing.
*BSD has no fears, aside from the inherent impending doom that trolls curse it to.:P
I feel justified because P2P isn't about free music for me, it's a SAMPLE service.
I've burnt quite a few CDS out a hi quality mp3 that match, track for track, the order and song list of the album. Of 3 albums that I've burnt that way, I ended up buying 3 of them (what a record!:p)from a store and tossing my burnt copy because there was a reason that I had the urge to burn them and carry them with me in the first place and that reason was that they were great albums. In fact, I could begin to list off whole bands that I own CDs of that I wouldn't even have KNOWN about if it wasn't for p2p services.
Seriously though, nobody likes intrusive advertising. One vote for the subscriber model. Oh, wait, not many people would subscribe? Yea, that sucks, guess the content wasn't worth it.:P
No, I had merely made the logical conclusion that since you had made refrence to the 'types of responses' to a Gentoo post that it had some relevance to the ongoing conversation about using it as a server. You were defending one of the TWO participants in your responses, so I had come to the conclusion that it was for me. A simple error, I do not really feel at fault for coming to that conclusion, but I do feel that being so aggressive with it was improper. I'm sorry.
Your generalization is taken as a kind of insult. I was merely pointing out that out of all the distributions that exist, Gentoo is inherently the worst for server based usage. I've used Gentoo, I like it a lot, but I would NEVER use it on a server. It just begs the question 'Why?' when so many better alternatives exist.
I don't care if you use BSD or Linux, but Gentoo is definately the worst choice you could make for a server.
I mean, there is always the chance a new version of a package may fuck up, or fuck something else up. With a desktop system, there is minimal loss. You fix the problem, patch, patch, spend some time on it, no real loss. With a server this is a risk without reason. You don't need the latest version of PKGX, you need a known stable version, and if you DO upgrade it, you do so with patches that ONLY fix vulnerbilities. The key points here are consistancy, stability, and reliability. While I myself have had few problems with Gentoo, I would never want to trouble myself with it on a server. There is ABSOLUTELY no guarentee of the three 'key points' I mentioned above, and that is a serious issue.
Of course, your server is probably more of a hobby thing, in which case there is no risk. Still, however, you should be aware of why your choice may not be practical for server usage.
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I don't have a link, but you should look it up. We pay a leeve on almost any medium that could HOLD music, and that all goes to the music industry. So yes, it is legal. No, seriously, it is.
That's as stupid as saying that I can't look at GPL'ed source code because it would forever taint my ability to be able to code anything outside the GPL.
Isn't SCO running OpenBSD now? >:)
By Linux, do you mean Solaris? :P
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10,000 houses were reported to be perfectly fine.
6,000,000 people were NOT killed today.
See your kid today? Don't worry, chances are Micheal Jackson DID NOT molest him due to media attention, although close sources are admitting that he has been watching an awful lot of rugrats with his pants off lately.
So, lets talk about Linux and how it has a higher TCO than Windows. :P I bet Microsoft didn't factor in all its virus' and shit :P But that's fine, let the fools drown themselves. Idiots deserve to learn lessons the hardway, I believe, and if it gives MS more money to screw with even more idiots, all the better.
Incase you didn't do your homework, FreeBSD 5.2 is still a part of the current tree. The 4.x branch is the 'stable' branch.
It doesn't suprise me at all that it crashed on him, he is using something that is concidered to be of beta quality.
But but, he complains about ports being slow because of compile issues. 99% (assumption) of the ports are available as binaries... with a nice text based interface to navagate through them (sysinstall).
Of course, if you are complaining about not having RPM like downloads for packages, well, I think that's hypocritical. I mean, if that was the case, then why even use Linux, Windows has WAY more binaries that you can download.
Dude, it's not like I stole a cookie. It's only SCO.
I hate the whole GNU/whatever trend personally. Names aren't supposed to be all descriptive, they're supposed to be an easy way to identify something. Anyone who doesn't know that Linux doesn't use the GNU userland probably doesn't care enough to know. It's not like it's a hidden statistic.
:P
I propose that instead of GNU/Linux the tools get renamed to GNU/ls GNU/top GNU/gcc.
Since the kernel has been turned into a Windows app I'm assuming that when a Linux program asks for a port, it asks the Linux kernel and then that asks Windows.
As far as 127.0.0.1, not that it really matters, but since there is specialized code in the kernel for this... Linux will get the Linux program 127.0.0.1 calls, and Windows will get the Windows program 127.0.0.1 calls.
I've read his manifesto, and I wasn't refering to HIS manifesto. I was refering to all those people, you know, the PEOPLE THAT SAY LINUX IS FREE TO DOWNLOAD. Unless you are, of course, denying their existance.
I dispise this attitude. Yes, I agree that Mandrake should make profits for their work, and that serious users should CONCIDER purchasing it.
What I really hate is the 'Come on in, Linux is free, don't pay for MS CRAP' attitude soon to be followed up by the 'Oh, we got you hooked now. I know we said it's free, but you should buy it anyways, otherwise you're a low life blah blah blah'.
It's not very becoming.
Part of the deal is that the issue will never be raised again. That is legally binding, and what I meant by 'legal precident'.
dhclient is broken in 5.2?
Odd, because it's clearly working on the box I have beside me.
*shrugs* 5.2 seems to be a very solid release, I have no issues with it. I think that DevFS is something that should be more mainstream, it makes a lot more sense than the traditional method.
Yes, we all know that TSG has threatened to sue everyone from George Bush to Jesus Christ, but that doesn't change the fact that they would be fighting against LEGAL PRECEDENT that EXPLICITY prevents the actions they want to go forward with.
:P
Is there AT&T UNIX code in *BSD? Well DUH! Is it illegally there? No, and even, as you will see, some of the Linux code that SCO is claiming was 'illegally put in Linux' without their authorization is *BSD code, furthermore proving that they didn't care to do any research in what they are doing.
*BSD has no fears, aside from the inherent impending doom that trolls curse it to.
I feel secure in the fact that I am using Linux and that there is nothing you can do about it.
:P
:P
Have fun guys.
I left that as a comment and the page after I submitted it told me that I'd be hearing from them soon. What's that supposed to mean?
The line 'It just doesn't make any sense.' fits SCO's case REALLY well.
If I had the money I'd buy 500 Good Charlotte CDs and hope that they invest the money into music lessons and some fasion sense.
I feel justified because P2P isn't about free music for me, it's a SAMPLE service.
:p)from a store and tossing my burnt copy because there was a reason that I had the urge to burn them and carry them with me in the first place and that reason was that they were great albums.
I've burnt quite a few CDS out a hi quality mp3 that match, track for track, the order and song list of the album. Of 3 albums that I've burnt that way, I ended up buying 3 of them (what a record!
In fact, I could begin to list off whole bands that I own CDs of that I wouldn't even have KNOWN about if it wasn't for p2p services.
Well I want my God damn hamburger then!
:P
Seriously though, nobody likes intrusive advertising. One vote for the subscriber model. Oh, wait, not many people would subscribe? Yea, that sucks, guess the content wasn't worth it.
No, I had merely made the logical conclusion that since you had made refrence to the 'types of responses' to a Gentoo post that it had some relevance to the ongoing conversation about using it as a server. You were defending one of the TWO participants in your responses, so I had come to the conclusion that it was for me. A simple error, I do not really feel at fault for coming to that conclusion, but I do feel that being so aggressive with it was improper. I'm sorry.
Your generalization is taken as a kind of insult. I was merely pointing out that out of all the distributions that exist, Gentoo is inherently the worst for server based usage. I've used Gentoo, I like it a lot, but I would NEVER use it on a server. It just begs the question 'Why?' when so many better alternatives exist.
I don't care if you use BSD or Linux, but Gentoo is definately the worst choice you could make for a server.
I mean, there is always the chance a new version of a package may fuck up, or fuck something else up. With a desktop system, there is minimal loss. You fix the problem, patch, patch, spend some time on it, no real loss. With a server this is a risk without reason. You don't need the latest version of PKGX, you need a known stable version, and if you DO upgrade it, you do so with patches that ONLY fix vulnerbilities. The key points here are consistancy, stability, and reliability. While I myself have had few problems with Gentoo, I would never want to trouble myself with it on a server. There is ABSOLUTELY no guarentee of the three 'key points' I mentioned above, and that is a serious issue.
Of course, your server is probably more of a hobby thing, in which case there is no risk. Still, however, you should be aware of why your choice may not be practical for server usage.
Please, tell me why you would ever use Gentoo as a server? It's as stupid as using a gun to dig a hole in the ground.