If you read on, you'd see that yes, as a responsible parent, I do supervise my kids' surfing because of the slimy climate that the Web has become. However, this stuff is found even on sites that are meant for kids. That's preying on children.
Furthermore, your analogy about housefires and broken windows does not hold up unless you include that the child was induced to set the fire/break the window by an adult who should know better. Then we'd have a argument that fits.
I'm guessing that you got your prepositions switched with the statement,
"Why can't I pay (with cool content) for carrying advertising software?"
I mean, why would you pay to carry advertising software? I could see you getting paid to carry it to try to support cool content. And I have no issue with advertising software, excluding anything that is installed onto the end user's computer -- banner ads are lovely; pop-ups are an inconvenience, but as long as the content provider isn't using them to push puppy pr0n from a Sesame Street site, I have no issue. I still believe, however, that anyone who lures children to a site and then infects their computer with spyware is, frankly, a scumbag (IMHO).
Moreover, you'll see that I advocate the use of specialized top-level domains, not statutory or constitutional remedies. A ".k12" or ".kid" domain, in my optimistic view of the world, would pay for itself by advertising for child-oriented products and services, etc., but spyware, ads for bonerdope and pr0n, etc., would be unwelcome. Any provider in that domain who doesn't play within such guidelines would simply get their TLD switched to a more appropriate domain by the supervising domain administration authority. If that makes things tough on the scumbag who's pushing inappropriate content to children because the search engine placement and other advertising they bought is no longer valid, good.
I have a dim view of those who would prey on kids, that's all. But I appreciate your point of view.
No,
strcpy(shady,"take advantage of the naive and innocent.");
That's a helluva way to make a living. If you think that "shady" should be OK, go tell it to the people who have lost their homes because of predatory lending practices. If you come back with all your teeth, I'll be impressed.
What happens when your 7-year-old is surfing to get the latest cheat codes for his video game, or is trying to see what's new with Spongebob Squarepants, and one of these pop-up EULAs appear? (That's an example..I'm not running down the Spongebob people or saying they do or do not pull this stunt.) Kids don't know what that is, and they're likely to simply click past it just to get to some online contest. I've asked my youngest what it means when these things show up, and he assumed that he'd be unable to get to the content he wanted unless he accepted the installation. So, the whole family should be subject to an invasion of privacy? I don't think so.
And don't *even* start with the "gee whiz, you should be looking over your kids' shoulders while they surf" nonsense. I do watch my kids surf because of this slime: even when they go directly to the sites they intend to visit, these silly "trust me, install this" messages show up. If kid-oriented content is going to be promoted and provided on the web, then that neighborhood must be kept safe for kids.
No sensible human being with argue that red light districts, crack houses, and rectories, Neverland Ranch, or halfway houses for child molesters should be located next to schools and playgrounds. Same thing. There are good arguments for the use of specialized top-level domains -- maybe this is one of them...slashdot.k12?
I respectfully disagree with such a general statement. I have better all-around visibility in my Jimmy than in any other small or mid-sized sedan I've ever owned.
The difference is always in the operator of the vehicle. The diligent driver sees driving in traffic as a cooperative effort in which everyone gets where they're going, without the aid of an ambulance or a patrol car. The "me first" attitude only leads to problems. Governmental agencies can try to mandate such concern, and good engineering can take away excuses for getting into wrecks, but as long as highways are loaded down with the extremes of NASCAR/Grand Prix wannabes feeling the need for speed and/or the cranially-rectally challenged who can't see past their own drink-holders, the rest of us will just have to do our best to arrive safely and resist the urge to yell editorial comments out the window when you see the imbeciles stopped by the highway patrol.
So.....we're saying that the correct response to spammers is to throw dogshit at them? Hey, I could go along with that. It's less harmful than spiking their chili with Mexican green onions (a la ChiChi's), and probably a lot more fun.
I believe we'll need to agree to disagree on this one. We live in an age where too many things can be monitored in and around our vehicles without our consent, including, but not limited to, emissions content (while you're driving, via roadside analyzers), the radio station you're listening to (don't remember the name of the technology), conversations you're having with a passenger, conversations you may be having on a cell phone (with hands-free headset), and your vehicle location (via LoJack, OnStar, etc.) It's only a matter of time before someone taps into *this*, too. IMHO, to assume otherwise in naive. If there were no plans afoot to monitor yet another piece of our lives, the government wouldn't have pitched such a fit about PGP.
you think it is a good idea that something I own can then spy on me
Because it can be used to deter you from performing actions that are extremely dangerous to other people, and if someone is killed, can provide information that can either nail you or clear you depending upon what you actually did.
Then I suppose you have absolutely no issue with allowing your government to monitor your every keystroke on your computer and sift through your hard drive just in case there might be something damning there?
For the same reason you can't remove or tamper with warning labels on matresses. Because there's a safety issue.
Hey, when removing tags from mattresses is outlawed, only outlaws will....oh...never mind. By this logic, there should be mattress police who can walk into your home, check to be sure that the labels are still on your bedding, and drag you screaming into the night if they're not. And I'm sure you'd appreciate having a label on every spigot in your home that reads, "WARNING! The water that runs from this tap can cause drowning. Do not inhale while face-down in your bathtub." With enough such labels, you'd never have anything approaching reasonable home decor.:)
If every person was responsible for every minute of their lives:
My friend, I think you've missed the point. The previous post read: "The issue is making any given citizen culpable for every minute of his/her life." There's a big difference between being responsible and being culpable. To make someone culpable is to find them to be at fault, or guilty. No one's life should be subjected to continual authoritarian monitoring just in case they can be found at fault for something. By your logic, you would have no problem with having your every phone conversation recorded, and if your life insurance premiums were to suddenly skyrocket or your coverage dropped because the insurance company received a transcript of a private telephone discussion you had with your physician regarding an odd mole you found on your back, that would be OK with you, too.
That or equip them with a device like an invisible fence for dogs; when you try to take the cart off of the store's property you get a nice charge of electricity running through you!
Child: "Mommy, why is that man on the ground peeing his own pants and twitching like that?"
It means we're losing our social skills and our patience.
I can remember when a "supermarket" was a grocery that had more than two cash registers. We did chat with the butcher, 'cause that how your steaks got trimmed exactly as you wanted. We interacted with the deli clerks to get lunch meats sliced just right, and we chatted with the fishmonger & produce manager to find out what was freshest. We didn't settle for what was tossed on the shelf for the sake of getting back to work sooner.
Everyone waited in line, and folks conversed while waiting. Usually you knew someone in the store. If not, you did by the time you left. Kids played together. Folks made fun of the tabloids together. The checkout clerks were helpful because they were treated as human beings, and often offered a heads-up when an equivalent item was on sale or going in sale in a day or two.
Y'know, this constant desire to speed up even the most mundane activities probably has something to do with road rage and whining new-grads who can't grasp why they don't walk out of school and right into $75K/yr jobs with a corner office. Gratification is not always instant. Those equipped to deal with that fact probably lead happier lives.
Colonies on multiple worlds is insurance against world-destroying events.
Y'know, if a world-destroying event takes place, maybe it's a hint that we've overstayed our welcome and it's time to go.
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I'm sure they sniff each other and roll in each other's droppings: hey, a dog's a dog. But if one of these lil' guys gets ahold of your leg, it's best to just let 'em finish. The last thing you need is a jilted, network-connected Doberman Pinscher trying to boil your bunny and hack your server.
sarcasm()
{
printf("Yep, and I remember when M*A*S*H first hit the tube too. All I wanted to do was resection my friends bowels and do amputations with a hacksaw.\n");
}
"They must do something...."
THEY have...THEY are...Mr. Ashcroft & Co. will make it all alright, just wait and see!
Geez, do we just have to find something to blame on movies/radio/tv/video games/D&D/books so that it can be solved by legislation and the creation of a new cabinet post? Just for once, let's all just deal with the concept that we have heads full of mush that really doesn't congeal into something resembling a brain until you reach about 28. After that point, if you don't have your shit together in one bag, you really should get "WASTE OF GRAVITY" tattooed across your forehead so that the rest of us know what to expect when dealing with you.
It'll give the rest of us a way to pick you out from the bell tower.:)
Well, guys, I guess that either we're gonna have to stop and ask for directions again, or our dates will simply have to tolerate arriving late for awhile.
Why not start a Yahoo group? It has some nifty features including a message board, chat, e-mail broadcast, calendar, surveys and bunch of other stuff, and it's free.
The good news is that when you want to brand your initials on the patients' internal organs, you can design something really cool in your CAD program, then upload and let the robot tag that kidney so it looks real nice.
The bad news is that it's not as much fun to fondle that unconscious hottie any more.
Are you sure your girlfriend's a telemarketer?
I figure, telemarketer or phone sex operator: what's the difference? About $4.99 per minute plus long distance charges! Call me cheap, but as soon as I realize the person on the other end of the phone is a telemarketer, I ask, "Hey, what are you wearin'?"
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So, if this black box knows the airbag is going to deploy 5 seconds before it happens, why doesn't it just maneuver the car out of the accident?
Ba-da-BOOM! Thank you! Don't forget to tip your waitress. I'm here 'till Thursday...tell your friends.
Hi mi,
If you read on, you'd see that yes, as a responsible parent, I do supervise my kids' surfing because of the slimy climate that the Web has become. However, this stuff is found even on sites that are meant for kids. That's preying on children.
Furthermore, your analogy about housefires and broken windows does not hold up unless you include that the child was induced to set the fire/break the window by an adult who should know better. Then we'd have a argument that fits.
I'm guessing that you got your prepositions switched with the statement,
I mean, why would you pay to carry advertising software? I could see you getting paid to carry it to try to support cool content. And I have no issue with advertising software, excluding anything that is installed onto the end user's computer -- banner ads are lovely; pop-ups are an inconvenience, but as long as the content provider isn't using them to push puppy pr0n from a Sesame Street site, I have no issue. I still believe, however, that anyone who lures children to a site and then infects their computer with spyware is, frankly, a scumbag (IMHO).Moreover, you'll see that I advocate the use of specialized top-level domains, not statutory or constitutional remedies. A ".k12" or ".kid" domain, in my optimistic view of the world, would pay for itself by advertising for child-oriented products and services, etc., but spyware, ads for bonerdope and pr0n, etc., would be unwelcome. Any provider in that domain who doesn't play within such guidelines would simply get their TLD switched to a more appropriate domain by the supervising domain administration authority. If that makes things tough on the scumbag who's pushing inappropriate content to children because the search engine placement and other advertising they bought is no longer valid, good.
I have a dim view of those who would prey on kids, that's all. But I appreciate your point of view.
Shady != illegal
No,
strcpy(shady,"take advantage of the naive and innocent.");
That's a helluva way to make a living. If you think that "shady" should be OK, go tell it to the people who have lost their homes because of predatory lending practices. If you come back with all your teeth, I'll be impressed.
What happens when your 7-year-old is surfing to get the latest cheat codes for his video game, or is trying to see what's new with Spongebob Squarepants, and one of these pop-up EULAs appear? (That's an example..I'm not running down the Spongebob people or saying they do or do not pull this stunt.) Kids don't know what that is, and they're likely to simply click past it just to get to some online contest. I've asked my youngest what it means when these things show up, and he assumed that he'd be unable to get to the content he wanted unless he accepted the installation. So, the whole family should be subject to an invasion of privacy? I don't think so.
And don't *even* start with the "gee whiz, you should be looking over your kids' shoulders while they surf" nonsense. I do watch my kids surf because of this slime: even when they go directly to the sites they intend to visit, these silly "trust me, install this" messages show up. If kid-oriented content is going to be promoted and provided on the web, then that neighborhood must be kept safe for kids.
No sensible human being with argue that red light districts, crack houses, and rectories, Neverland Ranch, or halfway houses for child molesters should be located next to schools and playgrounds. Same thing. There are good arguments for the use of specialized top-level domains -- maybe this is one of them...slashdot.k12?
I respectfully disagree with such a general statement. I have better all-around visibility in my Jimmy than in any other small or mid-sized sedan I've ever owned.
The difference is always in the operator of the vehicle. The diligent driver sees driving in traffic as a cooperative effort in which everyone gets where they're going, without the aid of an ambulance or a patrol car. The "me first" attitude only leads to problems. Governmental agencies can try to mandate such concern, and good engineering can take away excuses for getting into wrecks, but as long as highways are loaded down with the extremes of NASCAR/Grand Prix wannabes feeling the need for speed and/or the cranially-rectally challenged who can't see past their own drink-holders, the rest of us will just have to do our best to arrive safely and resist the urge to yell editorial comments out the window when you see the imbeciles stopped by the highway patrol.
That's just my opinion, I coud be wrong.
See? Chronic masturbation *does* lead to blindness!
You don't want to use a real dog, because no warrior can inspire real fear in his enemies when his doberman pinscher is humping his leg. Case closed.
So.....we're saying that the correct response to spammers is to throw dogshit at them? Hey, I could go along with that. It's less harmful than spiking their chili with Mexican green onions (a la ChiChi's), and probably a lot more fun.
0x0d0a0,
Thank you for your response.
I believe we'll need to agree to disagree on this one. We live in an age where too many things can be monitored in and around our vehicles without our consent, including, but not limited to, emissions content (while you're driving, via roadside analyzers), the radio station you're listening to (don't remember the name of the technology), conversations you're having with a passenger, conversations you may be having on a cell phone (with hands-free headset), and your vehicle location (via LoJack, OnStar, etc.) It's only a matter of time before someone taps into *this*, too. IMHO, to assume otherwise in naive. If there were no plans afoot to monitor yet another piece of our lives, the government wouldn't have pitched such a fit about PGP.
Then I suppose you have absolutely no issue with allowing your government to monitor your every keystroke on your computer and sift through your hard drive just in case there might be something damning there?
Hey, when removing tags from mattresses is outlawed, only outlaws will....oh...never mind. By this logic, there should be mattress police who can walk into your home, check to be sure that the labels are still on your bedding, and drag you screaming into the night if they're not. And I'm sure you'd appreciate having a label on every spigot in your home that reads, "WARNING! The water that runs from this tap can cause drowning. Do not inhale while face-down in your bathtub." With enough such labels, you'd never have anything approaching reasonable home decor. :)
My friend, I think you've missed the point. The previous post read: "The issue is making any given citizen culpable for every minute of his/her life." There's a big difference between being responsible and being culpable. To make someone culpable is to find them to be at fault, or guilty. No one's life should be subjected to continual authoritarian monitoring just in case they can be found at fault for something. By your logic, you would have no problem with having your every phone conversation recorded, and if your life insurance premiums were to suddenly skyrocket or your coverage dropped because the insurance company received a transcript of a private telephone discussion you had with your physician regarding an odd mole you found on your back, that would be OK with you, too.
I don't buy it.
Checkout clerk: "Hi, Joe! How's the meth lab goin'?"
Child: "Mommy, why is that man on the ground peeing his own pants and twitching like that?"
Uh...just what, exactly do you think is in hot dogs???
It means we're losing our social skills and our patience.
I can remember when a "supermarket" was a grocery that had more than two cash registers. We did chat with the butcher, 'cause that how your steaks got trimmed exactly as you wanted. We interacted with the deli clerks to get lunch meats sliced just right, and we chatted with the fishmonger & produce manager to find out what was freshest. We didn't settle for what was tossed on the shelf for the sake of getting back to work sooner.
Everyone waited in line, and folks conversed while waiting. Usually you knew someone in the store. If not, you did by the time you left. Kids played together. Folks made fun of the tabloids together. The checkout clerks were helpful because they were treated as human beings, and often offered a heads-up when an equivalent item was on sale or going in sale in a day or two.
Y'know, this constant desire to speed up even the most mundane activities probably has something to do with road rage and whining new-grads who can't grasp why they don't walk out of school and right into $75K/yr jobs with a corner office. Gratification is not always instant. Those equipped to deal with that fact probably lead happier lives.
Q: What's 12 meters long, noisy, and smells like WD-40 and urine?
A: The robotically-assisted conga line at the old folks' home!
C'mon.....finish the job:
Doc: So, why is the first side burned twice as badly as the second side?
BBQ guy: Right after I hung up from talking to 911, the first caller called back.
[ba-da-BOOM!] Thank you very much...I'm here 'till Sunday.
Y'know, if a world-destroying event takes place, maybe it's a hint that we've overstayed our welcome and it's time to go.
I'm sure they sniff each other and roll in each other's droppings: hey, a dog's a dog. But if one of these lil' guys gets ahold of your leg, it's best to just let 'em finish. The last thing you need is a jilted, network-connected Doberman Pinscher trying to boil your bunny and hack your server.
Obligatory Ozzy Quote:
"Swallowing the colors of the sounds I hear.."
-- Flying High Again
sarcasm()
{
printf("Yep, and I remember when M*A*S*H first hit the tube too. All I wanted to do was resection my friends bowels and do amputations with a hacksaw.\n");
}
"They must do something...."
THEY have...THEY are...Mr. Ashcroft & Co. will make it all alright, just wait and see!
Geez, do we just have to find something to blame on movies/radio/tv/video games/D&D/books so that it can be solved by legislation and the creation of a new cabinet post? Just for once, let's all just deal with the concept that we have heads full of mush that really doesn't congeal into something resembling a brain until you reach about 28. After that point, if you don't have your shit together in one bag, you really should get "WASTE OF GRAVITY" tattooed across your forehead so that the rest of us know what to expect when dealing with you.
It'll give the rest of us a way to pick you out from the bell tower. :)
- drfatburn@aol.com
- drfatburn12345@cs.com
- formerly maknuthin@aol.com
Hope this helps....I could tell the dipshit doing 45 mph in the fast lane to GET THE *&%$ OUT OF MY WAY!!!!
Well, guys, I guess that either we're gonna have to stop and ask for directions again, or our dates will simply have to tolerate arriving late for awhile.
Why not start a Yahoo group? It has some nifty features including a message board, chat, e-mail broadcast, calendar, surveys and bunch of other stuff, and it's free.
The good news is that when you want to brand your initials on the patients' internal organs, you can design something really cool in your CAD program, then upload and let the robot tag that kidney so it looks real nice. The bad news is that it's not as much fun to fondle that unconscious hottie any more.
Are you sure your girlfriend's a telemarketer? I figure, telemarketer or phone sex operator: what's the difference? About $4.99 per minute plus long distance charges! Call me cheap, but as soon as I realize the person on the other end of the phone is a telemarketer, I ask, "Hey, what are you wearin'?"