Maybe on Planet Rand, where there are a dozen open jobs for every unemployed worker, and people "choose" to work for minimum wage instead of a $60k a year starting compensation with benefits.
Uh, yeah, people who place their boot on the necks of the poor and working class are surprised when those people have enough and come for their necks. What was your point again?
Did I say a single fucking word defending the NSA, the CIA, or any other of the alphabet of agencies and their tactics?
Of course not, that would wreck the concern trolling. You know, where you claim to support someone or something but have all these Concerns about how they are doing it.
but he can't continue to pretend to be upholding the highest standards of journalism
Still fucking that chicken? When did Assange claim to be the ultimate journalist, carved in marble by the gods themselves on Mt Olympus? What is this talking point supposed to accomplish, what does it change? Not the fact that Assange is better than any hundred journalists you could name from rags like NPR/BBC/FOX/MSDNC/CNN/WaPo/NYTimes.
But Assange is not Snowden, not even close
Because he's released far more secrets than Snowden ever did.
Quite familiar with the concept of sarcasm. The problem is telling the difference between a sarcastic comment and someone who's just that painfully ignorant. Thus the question.
Not sure I can explain this any more simply. Search results are not a the output of a database query. They are not neutral to start with.
Yeah, which are based on a database pull of popular searches or what the algorithm thinks will be popular. As totally opposed to instant search suggestions, which are based on a database pull of popular searches and what the (same) algorithm thinks will be popular. Not Alex Jones deciding what comes up first in search results.
I mean presumably you don't use any spam filtering on your email and always answer when telemarketers call, in the interests of freedom of speech and anti-censorship, right?
Now that you've had a couple of days, could you think of a straw man that's a little more lame? Lets go back to the point of you not being born yesterday, and this being obvious to everyone including Terry Shiavo that the entire "fake news" meme is nothing more than the deep state getting in bed with massive media companies to control the narrative while suppressing dissenting voices.
What harm is really caused by "what is pizzag" and "was 911" coming up with suggested search results of "what is pizzagate" and "was 911 an inside" job. Unless you actually think Batboy is a real thing every time you buy groceries. As compared to the deep state conspiracy theories that Saddam planned 911, Assad is gassing his own people, and Qaddafi was planning a genocide. Which have collective killed a couple million people, created millions more in refugees, and returned open-air slave markets to Africa.
You speak as if people haven't been forced to make a living since the Dawn of Man
Congratulations on getting the point. Working is a necessity, not a choice. And if the work available is driving for Uber for less than minimum wage after gas and maintenance, people will do it for a roof or food.
Oh, I've been misinformed all my life then, having been given the impression that both "preach" and "convert" were terms associated with religion.
Yes, and your using those words to describe other people buying the products they want at the prices they feel like paying is a hallmark of your religion, Hateboi.
But of course it is. Not only did they rig their own primary to force the one candidate that could lose to Trump down our throats, Hillary promoted him during the GOP primary via her Pied Piper Strategy.
Trump is and always was corrupt, venal and incredibly self serving. The information was all out there before the election. If you voted for Trump, the fault is entirely yours. Own it.
But of course he is - but then so was his general election opponent to an equal or greater degree. On all fronts. It's why, despite Trump being the most unpopular president in history, is still more popular than HRC. So don't freak out on the people that voted for the turd sandwich instead of the shit taco.
For the same reason your not loudly proclaiming, "the world would be a better place if Hilary had beaten Trump!"* is not censorship. [*If, for the sake of argument, you do not believe that to be true, I don't know.]
Where's the analogy in this sentence?
Those suggestions are the speech of the respective search engine companies.
See the already mentioned demands from Senators that tech companies "do something" about "fake news", and tech companies relying on the Atlantic Council for advise on what to "do". The Atlantic Council that receives direct funding from the US military.
In comparison to the number of conspiracy theories out there, very few times indeed, and certainly far, far fewer than one would expect from chance alone.
Given that the deep state came up with the term conspiracy theory in the first place to slap on anyone who questions their BS, methinks you have that overstated. But lets go ahead and say its not. The nutjob ideas that there is some "truth" behind the Sandy Hook shootings, that the moon landings were faked, don't hurt anyone. Whereas the CT pushed by mainstream media sources - Saddam having WMD's and Syria is having a civil war - has literally killed over a million people and displaced millions more. But those theories are not and will not be censored, because they aren't a threat to the mainstream narrative (the point of this whole charade) because they are the mainstream narrative.
They should instead present news which outlines the evidence demonstrating or at least strongly suggesting that "Assad gassed his own people," or that "Trump colluded with Putin to steal an election," or whatever.
You mean the "some people say" trope perfected by Fox News when slinging some obvious BS? Democrats used to hate that, until they could do it against Trump.
while Putin's intervention should now be beyond reasonable doubt,
Aside from the complete lack of any evidence, witnesses, timeline or logic behind the tale, sure. Everything that is put forth as so-called evidence is either a true conspiracy theory with nothing to back it up, walked back later when it turns out to be bullshit (17 agencies talking point, 21 state elections were hacked) or laughably bad that it is dispositive.
However there are certainly facts as to certain meetings etc
A meeting where someone offered to give Trump Jr. dirt, a meeting he walked away from empty handed. A meeting the so-called Russian agent walked away from, to meet with the Fusion GPS founder who was also behind the Steele Dossier.
You sound like the workers who complained when they stopped making Carriages and Horsewhips.
...clever guy. Because the carriages and horsewhips are still being used here, just not by humans.
Yeah I'm sorry those men got laid-off, but society "progressed" beyond the horse-and-carriage days.
Since you skipped it the first time: The continued erosion of the working class isn't "progress". All those reduced labor costs are going to be pocketed by shareholders, not passed onto customers. The tired "buggy whip" canard doesn't fly as more than enough jobs were created to build & service cars, construct roads and highways to make up for what was lost in the equine industry.
That's not going to happen with automation and autonomous delivery vehicles. Because the whole point is to take humans out of the equation, purely for the benefit of shareholders. Not customers, not workers.
The ignorance defense wasn't worth shit, as the documents found had the classification markings still on them.
And even if they weren't the talking point was still deliberate misdirection. If Hillary, say, emailed the ambassador to Saudi Arabia about the war on Yemen, that conversation was inherently classified. It didn't have to wait for a state department flunky to mark it as such.
If the CIA manages to do a snatch-and-grab on Snowden, I hope he has the chutzpah to argue "it was ok to leak those documents because they weren't marked classified" in his defense.
FedEx in the 90s had a good argument for non-unionization: Employees were treated as valued team members.
Not seeing a connection between your premise and your conclusion. Your favorite professional sports team? They're all members of a union, and they're all valued team members - else they wouldn't be on the team.
How is a laid off delivery driver going to be able to afford to buy any stock at all - much less an amount large enough for him to live off the dividends - from the company that just laid him off?
Not suggesting fake news and conspiracy theories to the user is not censorship.
Suppressing speech you don't like from search results - how is this not censorship again? And how many times has today's "conspiracy theory" morphed into tomorrow's "oh that's old news move along". You know, shit like the NSA trying to wiretap the entire planet or spying on the personal phones of allied heads of state.
The suggestion itself is speech and this is a request to Apple to stop accidentally lying to users.
So Apple should block all media that deal in the fake conspiracy theory news that Assad gassed his own people or that Trump colluded with Putin to steal an election? That would cover almost all print and broadcast media.
Common, Ami, I know you weren't born yesterday. None of this concern about CT or foreign interference has anything to do with any concern for the truth. Otherwise every outlet from NPR to Fox would be blocked, every pundit from Rachel Madcow to Fucker Carlson. But that's not what's happening. Minimizing the voices outside the mainstream is what's happening. Which was the real point from the beginning.
Of course unions can also stand in the way of progress, such as forbidding the use of drones or driverless delivery trucks
The continued erosion of the working class isn't "progress". All those reduced labor costs are going to be pocketed by shareholders, not passed onto customers.
Such results raise questions about the company's ability to monitor for low-quality information, and provide another example of the problems platforms run into when relying on algorithms to police the internet.
When did (some) westerners turn into wilting violets? Do they think Batboy is a real person every time they buy groceries and see a tabloid at checkout? If these assholes had been pushing this censorship crap in 2002, anyone questioning the march to invade Iraq would have been slandered as a conspiracy theorist and censored*.
Then there's the fact that the people calling for said censorship can easily be hoist on their own petard, as happened to ThinkProgress after they cheered for Alex Jones being deplatformed. The Weekly Standard picked a nit with an article they wrote on Trump's nominee for SCOTUS, and so FFB throttled them. Because FFB trusted a science-denying, Iraq war loving Bill Kristol rag to do "fact checking".
*To those who say it's not censorship if the government isn't involved, I'll refer you to the Congressional hearings where senators demanding big tech companies do something about "fake news", and the fact that FFB is relying on the Atlantic Council to police their platform - an organization that receives direct funding from the US military.
"To accomplish this task, Chinese citizens were mobilized in massive numbers to eradicate the birds by forcing them to fly until they fell from exhaustion.
No distinction or difference from his point that that the sparrow "eradication" campaign consisted of....making loud noises. In either case, it's funny that you're attacking SB here when he's an anacho-capitliast.
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Maybe on Planet Rand, where there are a dozen open jobs for every unemployed worker, and people "choose" to work for minimum wage instead of a $60k a year starting compensation with benefits.
However you want to rationalize the sense of entitlement and eugenics. Doesn't change the math, though.
Uh, yeah, people who place their boot on the necks of the poor and working class are surprised when those people have enough and come for their necks. What was your point again?
Of course not, that would wreck the concern trolling. You know, where you claim to support someone or something but have all these Concerns about how they are doing it.
Still fucking that chicken? When did Assange claim to be the ultimate journalist, carved in marble by the gods themselves on Mt Olympus? What is this talking point supposed to accomplish, what does it change? Not the fact that Assange is better than any hundred journalists you could name from rags like NPR/BBC/FOX/MSDNC/CNN/WaPo/NYTimes.
Because he's released far more secrets than Snowden ever did.
Quite familiar with the concept of sarcasm. The problem is telling the difference between a sarcastic comment and someone who's just that painfully ignorant. Thus the question.
Yeah, which are based on a database pull of popular searches or what the algorithm thinks will be popular. As totally opposed to instant search suggestions, which are based on a database pull of popular searches and what the (same) algorithm thinks will be popular. Not Alex Jones deciding what comes up first in search results.
Now that you've had a couple of days, could you think of a straw man that's a little more lame? Lets go back to the point of you not being born yesterday, and this being obvious to everyone including Terry Shiavo that the entire "fake news" meme is nothing more than the deep state getting in bed with massive media companies to control the narrative while suppressing dissenting voices.
What harm is really caused by "what is pizzag" and "was 911" coming up with suggested search results of "what is pizzagate" and "was 911 an inside" job. Unless you actually think Batboy is a real thing every time you buy groceries. As compared to the deep state conspiracy theories that Saddam planned 911, Assad is gassing his own people, and Qaddafi was planning a genocide. Which have collective killed a couple million people, created millions more in refugees, and returned open-air slave markets to Africa.
And then people like you wonder why they end up in the gulag, spending a couple decades thinking about their priorities while digging ditches.
So you can sneer at them a second time for taking on student loans they couldn't afford?
Which isn't going to happen. Other countries have much higher minimum wages without higher inflation, so find a new corporatist talking point.
If a business doesn't pay a living wage, that business doesn't deserve to exist.
Congratulations on getting the point. Working is a necessity, not a choice. And if the work available is driving for Uber for less than minimum wage after gas and maintenance, people will do it for a roof or food.
Go fuck yourself, Joe
Yes, and your using those words to describe other people buying the products they want at the prices they feel like paying is a hallmark of your religion, Hateboi.
But of course it is. Not only did they rig their own primary to force the one candidate that could lose to Trump down our throats, Hillary promoted him during the GOP primary via her Pied Piper Strategy.
https://www.salon.com/2016/11/...
But of course he is - but then so was his general election opponent to an equal or greater degree. On all fronts. It's why, despite Trump being the most unpopular president in history, is still more popular than HRC. So don't freak out on the people that voted for the turd sandwich instead of the shit taco.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/...
Where's the analogy in this sentence?
See the already mentioned demands from Senators that tech companies "do something" about "fake news", and tech companies relying on the Atlantic Council for advise on what to "do". The Atlantic Council that receives direct funding from the US military.
Given that the deep state came up with the term conspiracy theory in the first place to slap on anyone who questions their BS, methinks you have that overstated. But lets go ahead and say its not. The nutjob ideas that there is some "truth" behind the Sandy Hook shootings, that the moon landings were faked, don't hurt anyone. Whereas the CT pushed by mainstream media sources - Saddam having WMD's and Syria is having a civil war - has literally killed over a million people and displaced millions more. But those theories are not and will not be censored, because they aren't a threat to the mainstream narrative (the point of this whole charade) because they are the mainstream narrative.
You mean the "some people say" trope perfected by Fox News when slinging some obvious BS? Democrats used to hate that, until they could do it against Trump.
Aside from the complete lack of any evidence, witnesses, timeline or logic behind the tale, sure. Everything that is put forth as so-called evidence is either a true conspiracy theory with nothing to back it up, walked back later when it turns out to be bullshit (17 agencies talking point, 21 state elections were hacked) or laughably bad that it is dispositive.
A meeting where someone offered to give Trump Jr. dirt, a meeting he walked away from empty handed. A meeting the so-called Russian agent walked away from, to meet with the Fusion GPS founder who was also behind the Steele Dossier.
Since you skipped it the first time: The continued erosion of the working class isn't "progress". All those reduced labor costs are going to be pocketed by shareholders, not passed onto customers. The tired "buggy whip" canard doesn't fly as more than enough jobs were created to build & service cars, construct roads and highways to make up for what was lost in the equine industry.
That's not going to happen with automation and autonomous delivery vehicles. Because the whole point is to take humans out of the equation, purely for the benefit of shareholders. Not customers, not workers.
And even if they weren't the talking point was still deliberate misdirection. If Hillary, say, emailed the ambassador to Saudi Arabia about the war on Yemen, that conversation was inherently classified. It didn't have to wait for a state department flunky to mark it as such.
If the CIA manages to do a snatch-and-grab on Snowden, I hope he has the chutzpah to argue "it was ok to leak those documents because they weren't marked classified" in his defense.
Not seeing a connection between your premise and your conclusion. Your favorite professional sports team? They're all members of a union, and they're all valued team members - else they wouldn't be on the team.
How is a laid off delivery driver going to be able to afford to buy any stock at all - much less an amount large enough for him to live off the dividends - from the company that just laid him off?
Suppressing speech you don't like from search results - how is this not censorship again? And how many times has today's "conspiracy theory" morphed into tomorrow's "oh that's old news move along". You know, shit like the NSA trying to wiretap the entire planet or spying on the personal phones of allied heads of state.
So Apple should block all media that deal in the fake conspiracy theory news that Assad gassed his own people or that Trump colluded with Putin to steal an election? That would cover almost all print and broadcast media.
Common, Ami, I know you weren't born yesterday. None of this concern about CT or foreign interference has anything to do with any concern for the truth. Otherwise every outlet from NPR to Fox would be blocked, every pundit from Rachel Madcow to Fucker Carlson. But that's not what's happening. Minimizing the voices outside the mainstream is what's happening. Which was the real point from the beginning.
The continued erosion of the working class isn't "progress". All those reduced labor costs are going to be pocketed by shareholders, not passed onto customers.
The second F is for Face and the the B is for Book. The first F stands for...
When did (some) westerners turn into wilting violets? Do they think Batboy is a real person every time they buy groceries and see a tabloid at checkout? If these assholes had been pushing this censorship crap in 2002, anyone questioning the march to invade Iraq would have been slandered as a conspiracy theorist and censored*.
Then there's the fact that the people calling for said censorship can easily be hoist on their own petard, as happened to ThinkProgress after they cheered for Alex Jones being deplatformed. The Weekly Standard picked a nit with an article they wrote on Trump's nominee for SCOTUS, and so FFB throttled them. Because FFB trusted a science-denying, Iraq war loving Bill Kristol rag to do "fact checking".
*To those who say it's not censorship if the government isn't involved, I'll refer you to the Congressional hearings where senators demanding big tech companies do something about "fake news", and the fact that FFB is relying on the Atlantic Council to police their platform - an organization that receives direct funding from the US military.
Sarcasm? Because cane toads were a spectacular failure - they didn't eat the pets sitting on top the cane, but devoured native species on the ground.
No distinction or difference from his point that that the sparrow "eradication" campaign consisted of....making loud noises. In either case, it's funny that you're attacking SB here when he's an anacho-capitliast.