Yeah, I see it, but would want more evidence to believe it. The US median was $59k in 2016 for all households. There's no way NYC is that low. In fact, NY state was $54,659 in 2009. Are they claiming that NYC was lower than the state average of an earlier year? That said, the Slate article below does point out how much of NYC is rent controlled with people staying in places for 20+ years. Are places like that available to folks just starting out?
I don't disagree. But to the general public, how can it be honest while deceiving an enemy?...it can't. And so, the public simply doesn't get to know what goes on, and it shouldn't, unless those with oversight bring out some abuse of power. These agencies become the fall guy for many politicians ("it was an intelligence failure") because they know that the agencies can do nothing to fight back.
" In the US many people simply used to get NO cancer treatment whatsoever."
That's a lie. My mom and dad (twice), and three of my employees have all been treated here for cancer. My aunt in Ontario was put on a waiting list for a couple months. So yeah, anecdotes != evidence, but your comment on the US is bunk.
The speculation that continents might have 'drifted' was first put forward by Abraham Ortelius in 1596. The concept was independently and more fully developed by Alfred Wegener in 1912
You should have a lower user ID if you're that old.
"The "tipping point" was where we could stop emitting CO2 and it would eventually balance itself out"
I could link many articles that point to numerous "tipping points", and that it's too late, which is why I asked. So, while I'd be in favor of doing the clean up as part of an overall program, I highly doubt that we won't need other solutions before it's too late.
"A large part of what made America great was that we were open to immigration for 400 years"
For many years, there was still a requirement to be able to support yourself. When my ex-wife immigrated back in 88, we had to prove that I could support her. But let's continue to follow the agenda that policy changes in that direction are all new.
People are also traveling to Israel for medical treatment. So?
Proportionately so? I know many come to the US, to places like Cleveland Clinic, Johns Hopkins and Mayo. I hear such great things about Canadian healthcare, but when my aunt from Ontario had brain cancer, the wait for treatment pretty much killed her...you can't pay to get treatment earlier there.
This is from a five year old article on Samsung, but illustrates the point that Samsung is a very US company...
Although Samsung is globally headquartered in South Korea, it contributes significantly to the U.S. economy each year. In Texas alone, where Samsung has a major manufacturing facility, the company has provided the state’s largest foreign investment to date. Samsung’s semiconductor operation in Austin, Texas, constitutes a $13 billion investment in the state and this number is expected to exceed $15 billion at the end of 2014. The facilities employ more than 5,000 people and generate $1.5 billion in revenue annually, as Congressman Pete Sessions (R-TX) and Texas State Senators Ken Paxton and Kirk Watson recognized in public comments to the ITC in June.
Another Samsung subsidiary, Samsung Telecommunications America, headquartered in Richardson, Texas, employs more than 1,100 workers in the state. Samsung also recently broke ground on a new 1.1 million square foot development, which will serve as the company’s R&D headquarters in San Jose. The company’s plans were highlighted in Gov. Jerry Brown’s State of the State speech earlier this year, in which he noted that the facility is expected to provide 2,500 high-skill and wage 2,500 jobs.
The article points to Samsung, which has many plants and thousands of US employees, because they've created the most US patents. So what?
Having lived in South Korea for many years, I would point to the fact that they innovate extremely little, but are outstanding at copying things that others have invented. I could go into a long winded cultural explanation (don't go all "you racist" on me here...my ex wife and kid are Korean) regarding why, but I'm too lazy for that this morning.
Not disagreeing with you on the models. But, suppose we get to the point where our coastlines are being battered, and people are dying, and we still don't have a good model. At what point would you suggest that it's time to tinker vs. continuing to study while people die?
How long do you think it will take to build millions of CO2 reclamation plants, and actually have an impact? We've been hearing from many that we're already beyond the "tipping point", so what good would this do if we're already fucked?...could it be accomplished in time, or would we need a short term interim solution to hold us over? I'm no climatologist, but I don't think calling attempts at solutions (temporary or otherwise) "chemistry experiment" is helpful in any way.
You've clearly never hunted bear, nor been outside your mom's basement much. VR will be part of the future, but will never replace real life.
FWIW, I've had fun "beating a boss in WoW", and hunted IRL. The two don't compare.
Am I the only one who noticed? Brought to you by the team of Fu and Xu!
Yeah, I see it, but would want more evidence to believe it. The US median was $59k in 2016 for all households. There's no way NYC is that low. In fact, NY state was $54,659 in 2009. Are they claiming that NYC was lower than the state average of an earlier year? That said, the Slate article below does point out how much of NYC is rent controlled with people staying in places for 20+ years. Are places like that available to folks just starting out?
Reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
http://www.slate.com/articles/...
I don't disagree. But to the general public, how can it be honest while deceiving an enemy?...it can't. And so, the public simply doesn't get to know what goes on, and it shouldn't, unless those with oversight bring out some abuse of power. These agencies become the fall guy for many politicians ("it was an intelligence failure") because they know that the agencies can do nothing to fight back.
Your one off is not data, nor does it refute anything that I stated.
" In the US many people simply used to get NO cancer treatment whatsoever."
That's a lie. My mom and dad (twice), and three of my employees have all been treated here for cancer. My aunt in Ontario was put on a waiting list for a couple months. So yeah, anecdotes != evidence, but your comment on the US is bunk.
Um no, your comment is bullshit, and has nothing to do with climate change, or the article, or the question I posted of the GP.
Deception is part and parcel to the industry. Why would you expect otherwise, and why blame the change on Trump?
Someone brushing their hands by my nuts doesn't constitute (#metoo) sexual assault, no matter what I think about it.
Actually, it does, and it's only assault when it's unwanted, which clearly, in your case, it isn't.
The speculation that continents might have 'drifted' was first put forward by Abraham Ortelius in 1596. The concept was independently and more fully developed by Alfred Wegener in 1912
You should have a lower user ID if you're that old.
"The "tipping point" was where we could stop emitting CO2 and it would eventually balance itself out"
I could link many articles that point to numerous "tipping points", and that it's too late, which is why I asked. So, while I'd be in favor of doing the clean up as part of an overall program, I highly doubt that we won't need other solutions before it's too late.
We call that the "sticky bit"
"A large part of what made America great was that we were open to immigration for 400 years"
For many years, there was still a requirement to be able to support yourself. When my ex-wife immigrated back in 88, we had to prove that I could support her. But let's continue to follow the agenda that policy changes in that direction are all new.
People are also traveling to Israel for medical treatment. So?
Proportionately so? I know many come to the US, to places like Cleveland Clinic, Johns Hopkins and Mayo. I hear such great things about Canadian healthcare, but when my aunt from Ontario had brain cancer, the wait for treatment pretty much killed her...you can't pay to get treatment earlier there.
All my mod points would go to your post if I had any. Bravo sir.
Where would you live in NYC on $75k.
Oh, bravo PopeRatzo!
Mod Parent Up!
This is from a five year old article on Samsung, but illustrates the point that Samsung is a very US company...
Although Samsung is globally headquartered in South Korea, it contributes significantly to the U.S. economy each year. In Texas alone, where Samsung has a major manufacturing facility, the company has provided the state’s largest foreign investment to date. Samsung’s semiconductor operation in Austin, Texas, constitutes a $13 billion investment in the state and this number is expected to exceed $15 billion at the end of 2014. The facilities employ more than 5,000 people and generate $1.5 billion in revenue annually, as Congressman Pete Sessions (R-TX) and Texas State Senators Ken Paxton and Kirk Watson recognized in public comments to the ITC in June.
Another Samsung subsidiary, Samsung Telecommunications America, headquartered in Richardson, Texas, employs more than 1,100 workers in the state. Samsung also recently broke ground on a new 1.1 million square foot development, which will serve as the company’s R&D headquarters in San Jose. The company’s plans were highlighted in Gov. Jerry Brown’s State of the State speech earlier this year, in which he noted that the facility is expected to provide 2,500 high-skill and wage 2,500 jobs.
"Tertiary education is becoming unaffordable for many people, which will limit the future of STEM in the USA."
And yet, we put out a much higher percentage of tertiary degrees than we ever did back in the 50s, 60s, 70s... go figure.
The article points to Samsung, which has many plants and thousands of US employees, because they've created the most US patents. So what?
Having lived in South Korea for many years, I would point to the fact that they innovate extremely little, but are outstanding at copying things that others have invented. I could go into a long winded cultural explanation (don't go all "you racist" on me here...my ex wife and kid are Korean) regarding why, but I'm too lazy for that this morning.
Not disagreeing with you on the models. But, suppose we get to the point where our coastlines are being battered, and people are dying, and we still don't have a good model. At what point would you suggest that it's time to tinker vs. continuing to study while people die?
How long do you think it will take to build millions of CO2 reclamation plants, and actually have an impact? We've been hearing from many that we're already beyond the "tipping point", so what good would this do if we're already fucked?...could it be accomplished in time, or would we need a short term interim solution to hold us over? I'm no climatologist, but I don't think calling attempts at solutions (temporary or otherwise) "chemistry experiment" is helpful in any way.
Making the popcorn as I await the handwringing, and finger pointing from both sides. Happy hump-day everybody!
Logic and rational thought do not work on Republicans.
And the left doesn't stereotype....right?
"What American solar manufacturers?"
Solyndra. Oh, never mind.