Have you tried installing a FreeBSD server and then seeing if your proprietary stuff will run ok using Linux Compatibility mode?
Might be a way for you to stay up to date with your OS and still run compatability for older Linux kernels. It's not like you can't run binary compatible stuff for older versions of FreeBSD and Linux on a current FreeBSD box.
Right, but his users have tenure and their bosses don't care if they make the Sysadmin's job harder.
The real solution is to start with the automated conversion stuff mentioned above and then use the free time generated to read back issues of BOFH. That will better prepare him for an educational establishment environment.
"Farmers should be free to put DDT onto crops that we eat."
Yeah, let's kill millions of people every year, mostly children, by banning mostly harmless DDT!
Oh wait, that was already on your list.
Until you can show me an example of where a non-government entity kills millions every year by polluting, I'd say the radical enviromentalists have quite the death toll advantage for their side of the issue.
You are better off if your parent's refuse to buy you a car and tell you to pay your own way through college.
Kids whose parents do everything for them and rescue them from every problem end up in jail, with their parents wondering what happened.
What happened is that they never had to work for anything and thus didn't value it, and they got away without consequences until the point finally came that their parent's couldn't rescue them anymore. (Disclaimer: Not ALL spoiled kids and not ALL kids who have it rough. This is a generalization, not a specific life chart.)
The kid with the beat-up car he paid for himself will make it last 10x as long as the kid whose parent's bought him an SUV for his birthday because "they want him to be safe". Someone told me that today. Their kid is on his second wrecked brand new SUV in the last year. Yeah, that total lack of personal responsibility sure makes kids safer.
So go thank your parent's for not ruining you by preventing you from needing to work for stuff.
In terms of the grandparent topic, I am personally happy that myself and several people I know weren't aborted, even though their parent's considered doing it at the time due to life's circumstances.
In terms of the original troll of a story, holding "contradictory ideas" in your head isn't some special mark of intelligence. It's generally a sign of a simplistic over education combined with a lack of practical experience with the results of those ideas.
To think on a level of "killing babies is bad, but killing adult murderers is not" (to use examples from above) isn't contradictory at all. It's incredibly simplistic to think that just because both use the word "killing" that the only consistent position is that "killing is good" or "killing is bad". It's ignoring the totality of the idea.
One might as well say, "Slashdot stories are bad!" and "Slashdot stories are good!" Contradictory in a simplistic sense, but both true, because obviously the value judgement depends on more information about "stories" than is contained in the simplistic version of the idea.
Well, the National Open Kegs are located at the Capitol Building in Washington, DC.
Currently there is a four year waiting list to be able to start to stand in line to access them. However, once you get there, you are entitled to one free beer before you have to apply again. This is all paid for by a 0.03% grain tax enacted to pay troop salaries during the war of 1812. Afterwards, they kept the tax going to fund "Grain Farmer Appeciation Week" and the Beer Bureau.
Of course, Ted Kennedy's office is right above the Kegs and apparently there is some rule that Senators get to skip to the front of the waiting list and line.
The "scientists" that are the subject of the article claim that this is an unprecented climate event, as opposed to just a normal warming/cooling cycle.
A short summary of one of the parts of the link: People used to make Welsh wine all the time. It was very popular. Then the climate cooled off and they couldn't make it any more. Now it's warmed up to where they can make it again.
Hence the cycle instead of the unprecented nature.
This story is more like the editorial section of most papers. A thinly disguised attempt at flamebait and/or trolling in order to induce responses.
And for the record, I prefer FreeBSD over any other operating system. I'm currently sitting surrounded (well, surrounded on three sides) by FreeBSD boxes, one of which I've even convinced my wife to use as her normal desktop.
Don't worry, I'm sure they'll be cleaning all that up in the next five year plan.
I'm sure it was the foreign imperialists that made them drop it from the last five year plan.
Don't you think it's incredibly ironic that radical environmentalists also have a tendancy to be communists, or at least sympathetic with communist goals, when the biggest polluters ever have been communist governments?
I didn't specify nations in particular, but it's unrealistic for that as well.
Interesting that you chose the example of a Hitler, since before WWII Germany rearmed itself largely in secret, in the face of strict treaties prohibiting arms beyond a certain level and of certain types and providing for international inspectors to monitor compliance. It was the countries who mostly complied with those restrictions that made Germany's great start to WWII possible. The day after Germany declared they weren't following the treaty anymore, they instantly had tons of prohibited aircraft, tanks and ships that magically "appeared" as far as the other countries were concerned.
Someone asked in another thread what the point of studying history is. Shooting down ideas like this is the point. You know, the whole doomed to repeat it thing.
For the level of disarming you are talking about, a drug gang could setup a basic metal-shop in the desert and build a few tanks, then drive into a local town and declare themselves dictators. It's not like the construction of these weapons is a big secret, nor would be hard to recreate in secret with modern tools and materials.
Letting only the people willing to violate laws, either national or international, have all the weapons is still a bad idea. Inspections don't work unless the entire world agrees to live in an international totalitarian state with no privacy. I don't see that as a better situation.
And it would last just as long as there wasn't a single group in the world that wanted more power. So what, twenty, thirty seconds? I bet someone would be planning to violate it before the scheduled event even happened.
Then they'd build themselves a tank or three and start taking over places. After which the other places would build themselves more advanced arms in self-defense.
You seem to ignore the fact that all of those armaments that you want to wave a magic wand at to make vanish were built in the first place for a reason.
The cultural language patterns of "Ebonics" come from a large group of immigrants from northern England/Southern Scotland. They were called "rednecks" and "crackers" before they left Britain and settled in the American South. They had a distinct culture that their slaves adopted. Over a long period of time the southerner's culture changed to become more like the "Yankee" culture they typically despised, but the former-slave black culture in the south didn't change as quickly. (As opposed to black immigrants in the north and the descendants of early freed slaves, whose culture reflected the mainstream northern American culture they joined and who despised the southern rednecks, black or white, even more than the northern whites did.)
Now of course, in the name of "multi-culteralism" blacks are encouraged to stay "rednecks", even though that's not what they are called anymore. The cultural roots are clear and have very little to do with African culture.
Of course, don't let any scholarly works disturb your worldview if you are one of those that think Kwanzaa is really a traditional ancient African holiday and racism is to blame for every single problem any black person has ever experienced.
Why don't they just setup some routing code on all those ipods out there in a software upgrade and let them form an ad-hoc network that routes from the other ipods they can see wirelessly to ipods that the other ones can't see? Then setup a central access point in each urban environment to hook each network into the Internet?
I know, I'm dreaming out loud again, so there's no need to reply with the obvious pitfalls...
Some people would rather trust a corporation's greed over a bureaucrat's altruism. It's more reliable.
At least with the corporation's greed, you can play one corporation off against another and (at least before the recent Supreme Court Ruling) corporations aren't allowed to come over to your house with guns and just take what they want if you refuse to do business with them.
Your voting example is merely a bunch of wolves getting together with a couple sheep to decide what's for dinner. Sure, the couple of sheep get a vote too, but it's not like that makes the outcome any fairer to them. After all, the wolves have a "right" to eat, don't they?
It's a matter of force. If you don't like ANY of the options from corporations for internet access, then you are free to start your own or at least not use theirs and it won't cost you a dime. If you don't like the government solution, guess what? Unless it runs at a profit from user fees (and how many government services do that?) you are forced to pay for it anyway at the point of a gun.
Hence why I said "Neither may be perfect, but it'd sure speed up identifying the entries that you might want to have a human check by hand." instead of "That'll work perfectly".
The idea would be that while any OCR errors might have to take human time for double-checking (and OCR on ONE printed type-face of numbers is going to be pretty accurate with minimal training), if the OCR'd text and the stored procedure produced text match exactly, it's as good as impossible that the OCR mistook the book table in exactly the right way to match the mistake the stored procedure produced.
It's not completely replacing manual checking, but it would be much, much faster to just check the possible mistakes instead of doing everything by hand.
Or even just different trig software on another computer and diff?
Neither may be perfect, but it'd sure speed up identifying the entries that you might want to have a human check by hand.
Oh wait, government funded project, you say? Never mind.
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From the summary "becoming a good penetration tester (pen tester) takes more than a week-long class"
Using the few thousand business and government networks I've seen over many years, about 99% of them could be cracked very quickly by anyone with half a clue. What's more, in the majority of cases, the technical people involved (either in-house or consultants) pretty much all knew that.
It may take more than a week to become a good pen tester because that involves a more comprehensive look at finding ALL the vulnerabilities and providing priorities and instructions on fixing them, but it sure doesn't take that long to learn enough to crack most network security.
The most common network used to be completely un-hardened hosts running multiple insecure applications on unsegmented networks with multiple unmonitored internet connections.
About the only improvement in the "average" network nowadays is that a firewall or at least NAT device is generally found on the internet facing edges of that insecure network and not much more.
Sure, I've worked for large ecommerce companies where we had better security than most banks (at least according to our regular third-party security auditors), but the vast majority of networks out there are either small to medium businesses run by managers with no clue and less inclination to spend money on security, or large companies and government agencies where no one knows what's going on enough to close all the gaps.
Especially government agencies. A friend worked as a security consultant for a cabinet level agency that ran for years with all the firewalls in simple routing mode because one of the high level bureacrats decided it simplified things (you know, no pesky security in the way) and their IDS would be good enough security by itself. If you've seen most government contracted IDS, you know how much of a joke that is.
It's routine at some of the agencies I did consulting work for to have all the employees in the office using the same username and password. Of course, the password being "password" made it easy for them all to remember and happy to give it out to any outside who they thought might need it.
Just this last saturday I listened to someone in the park on their mobile phone tell their customer that their company email password was "password" so that the customer could check their email for a document they wanted.
Now with widespread unsecured wireless network use showing up all over the place..... ahhhh... the lack of security is too much to contemplate! At least you used to have to be able to somewhat guess an IP range if you wanted to target a specific office. Now people can generally just park nearby and watch all the packets go past.
Right, because the liberal environmental terrorist wackos are all about giving you freedom instead of forcing you to obey their edicts about land use?
There are a lot more socialist and communist we-want-to-run-your-life liberal wacko's out there than there are many of the peace-love-and-rock-n-roll just leave everyone alone crowd anymore.
Especially the farther you get into politics, since politics tends to attract the control types, while the non-control types don't seem to desire the power as much.
I didn't say that most people agree with the criticism, just that it's valid.
There is a difference in many cases between the truth and popular opinion. This is just one of those cases.
Yeah, many people apparently believe it's ok to steal as long as it's technically legal. Some other people aren't as immoral as that, while a ton of others have just never thought about it, since they are comfortable in life and so couldn't care less about politics and such until someone comes along and takes their house to build a water-front country club, of course. Then those individuals start to notice.
"it can't be acknowledged as a valid criticism of the state"
No, it is still a valid criticism of the state. It's just that the other cases where the state does that are equally immoral, but simply less recognized by people who have been socialized in government schools becuase it's slightly less obvious.
So both situations are things the government has no business doing. When it's not being done by a government, we call it theft.
You postulated that the American people are more liberal than the members of congress.
I replied with a stat showing the percentage of the American people who consider themselves, liberal, moderate or conservative. You can't see how that applies? The only piece missing is what your assumption is about the members of congress, the group you were comparing them to.
I suppose you could be assuming that they are all conservatives, from Clinton and Kennedy on down to Pelosi, but somehow I don't think that's your assumption.
If you read what I actually said, It's moderates (many of whom voted for Bush and even more of whom voted for Kerry), conservatives and liberals. So your point is meaningless.
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Since this is a FreeBSD thread...
Have you tried installing a FreeBSD server and then seeing if your proprietary stuff will run ok using Linux Compatibility mode?
Might be a way for you to stay up to date with your OS and still run compatability for older Linux kernels. It's not like you can't run binary compatible stuff for older versions of FreeBSD and Linux on a current FreeBSD box.
Might at least be worth a try.
Right, but his users have tenure and their bosses don't care if they make the Sysadmin's job harder.
The real solution is to start with the automated conversion stuff mentioned above and then use the free time generated to read back issues of BOFH. That will better prepare him for an educational establishment environment.
"Farmers should be free to put DDT onto crops that we eat."
Yeah, let's kill millions of people every year, mostly children, by banning mostly harmless DDT!
Oh wait, that was already on your list.
Until you can show me an example of where a non-government entity kills millions every year by polluting, I'd say the radical enviromentalists have quite the death toll advantage for their side of the issue.
You are better off if your parent's refuse to buy you a car and tell you to pay your own way through college.
Kids whose parents do everything for them and rescue them from every problem end up in jail, with their parents wondering what happened.
What happened is that they never had to work for anything and thus didn't value it, and they got away without consequences until the point finally came that their parent's couldn't rescue them anymore. (Disclaimer: Not ALL spoiled kids and not ALL kids who have it rough. This is a generalization, not a specific life chart.)
The kid with the beat-up car he paid for himself will make it last 10x as long as the kid whose parent's bought him an SUV for his birthday because "they want him to be safe". Someone told me that today. Their kid is on his second wrecked brand new SUV in the last year. Yeah, that total lack of personal responsibility sure makes kids safer.
So go thank your parent's for not ruining you by preventing you from needing to work for stuff.
In terms of the grandparent topic, I am personally happy that myself and several people I know weren't aborted, even though their parent's considered doing it at the time due to life's circumstances.
In terms of the original troll of a story, holding "contradictory ideas" in your head isn't some special mark of intelligence. It's generally a sign of a simplistic over education combined with a lack of practical experience with the results of those ideas.
To think on a level of "killing babies is bad, but killing adult murderers is not" (to use examples from above) isn't contradictory at all. It's incredibly simplistic to think that just because both use the word "killing" that the only consistent position is that "killing is good" or "killing is bad". It's ignoring the totality of the idea.
One might as well say, "Slashdot stories are bad!" and "Slashdot stories are good!" Contradictory in a simplistic sense, but both true, because obviously the value judgement depends on more information about "stories" than is contained in the simplistic version of the idea.
Well, the National Open Kegs are located at the Capitol Building in Washington, DC.
Currently there is a four year waiting list to be able to start to stand in line to access them. However, once you get there, you are entitled to one free beer before you have to apply again. This is all paid for by a 0.03% grain tax enacted to pay troop salaries during the war of 1812. Afterwards, they kept the tax going to fund "Grain Farmer Appeciation Week" and the Beer Bureau.
Of course, Ted Kennedy's office is right above the Kegs and apparently there is some rule that Senators get to skip to the front of the waiting list and line.
Hope that clears things up for you.
That was the point of the comment.
The "scientists" that are the subject of the article claim that this is an unprecented climate event, as opposed to just a normal warming/cooling cycle.
A short summary of one of the parts of the link:
People used to make Welsh wine all the time. It was very popular. Then the climate cooled off and they couldn't make it any more. Now it's warmed up to where they can make it again.
Hence the cycle instead of the unprecented nature.
This story is more like the editorial section of most papers. A thinly disguised attempt at flamebait and/or trolling in order to induce responses.
And for the record, I prefer FreeBSD over any other operating system. I'm currently sitting surrounded (well, surrounded on three sides) by FreeBSD boxes, one of which I've even convinced my wife to use as her normal desktop.
Had any good Welsh wine lately?
Don't worry, I'm sure they'll be cleaning all that up in the next five year plan.
I'm sure it was the foreign imperialists that made them drop it from the last five year plan.
Don't you think it's incredibly ironic that radical environmentalists also have a tendancy to be communists, or at least sympathetic with communist goals, when the biggest polluters ever have been communist governments?
In your terms:
"As soon as a country stops communicating and allowing others to inspect their facilities, other countries will repsond."
How will they respond?
A. With their armies of rifles?
B. By building the prohibited weapons themselves?
If they answer A, they lose and become controlled by those arming themselves.
Now do you see why it inevitably results in the building of the very weapons you want to "ban", for the same reasons they are built right now?
I didn't specify nations in particular, but it's unrealistic for that as well.
Interesting that you chose the example of a Hitler, since before WWII Germany rearmed itself largely in secret, in the face of strict treaties prohibiting arms beyond a certain level and of certain types and providing for international inspectors to monitor compliance. It was the countries who mostly complied with those restrictions that made Germany's great start to WWII possible. The day after Germany declared they weren't following the treaty anymore, they instantly had tons of prohibited aircraft, tanks and ships that magically "appeared" as far as the other countries were concerned.
Someone asked in another thread what the point of studying history is. Shooting down ideas like this is the point. You know, the whole doomed to repeat it thing.
For the level of disarming you are talking about, a drug gang could setup a basic metal-shop in the desert and build a few tanks, then drive into a local town and declare themselves dictators. It's not like the construction of these weapons is a big secret, nor would be hard to recreate in secret with modern tools and materials.
Letting only the people willing to violate laws, either national or international, have all the weapons is still a bad idea. Inspections don't work unless the entire world agrees to live in an international totalitarian state with no privacy. I don't see that as a better situation.
And it would last just as long as there wasn't a single group in the world that wanted more power. So what, twenty, thirty seconds? I bet someone would be planning to violate it before the scheduled event even happened.
Then they'd build themselves a tank or three and start taking over places. After which the other places would build themselves more advanced arms in self-defense.
You seem to ignore the fact that all of those armaments that you want to wave a magic wand at to make vanish were built in the first place for a reason.
The cultural language patterns of "Ebonics" come from a large group of immigrants from northern England/Southern Scotland. They were called "rednecks" and "crackers" before they left Britain and settled in the American South. They had a distinct culture that their slaves adopted. Over a long period of time the southerner's culture changed to become more like the "Yankee" culture they typically despised, but the former-slave black culture in the south didn't change as quickly. (As opposed to black immigrants in the north and the descendants of early freed slaves, whose culture reflected the mainstream northern American culture they joined and who despised the southern rednecks, black or white, even more than the northern whites did.)
Now of course, in the name of "multi-culteralism" blacks are encouraged to stay "rednecks", even though that's not what they are called anymore. The cultural roots are clear and have very little to do with African culture.
You can read details in the book Black Rednecks And White Liberals by Thomas Sowell.
Of course, don't let any scholarly works disturb your worldview if you are one of those that think Kwanzaa is really a traditional ancient African holiday and racism is to blame for every single problem any black person has ever experienced.
If you want a comprehensive, yet basic set of rules, try the Simple Role-playing Game (SRPG).
A character sheet is simple enough that I can put the sample starting character sheet in this post:
Name: John Doe
Life Points: 45
Strength: -4
Dexterity: -4
Constitution: 4
Magic: 4
Speed: 22
Why don't they just setup some routing code on all those ipods out there in a software upgrade and let them form an ad-hoc network that routes from the other ipods they can see wirelessly to ipods that the other ones can't see? Then setup a central access point in each urban environment to hook each network into the Internet?
I know, I'm dreaming out loud again, so there's no need to reply with the obvious pitfalls...
Some people would rather trust a corporation's greed over a bureaucrat's altruism. It's more reliable.
At least with the corporation's greed, you can play one corporation off against another and (at least before the recent Supreme Court Ruling) corporations aren't allowed to come over to your house with guns and just take what they want if you refuse to do business with them.
Your voting example is merely a bunch of wolves getting together with a couple sheep to decide what's for dinner. Sure, the couple of sheep get a vote too, but it's not like that makes the outcome any fairer to them. After all, the wolves have a "right" to eat, don't they?
It's a matter of force. If you don't like ANY of the options from corporations for internet access, then you are free to start your own or at least not use theirs and it won't cost you a dime. If you don't like the government solution, guess what? Unless it runs at a profit from user fees (and how many government services do that?) you are forced to pay for it anyway at the point of a gun.
Hence why I said "Neither may be perfect, but it'd sure speed up identifying the entries that you might want to have a human check by hand." instead of "That'll work perfectly".
The idea would be that while any OCR errors might have to take human time for double-checking (and OCR on ONE printed type-face of numbers is going to be pretty accurate with minimal training), if the OCR'd text and the stored procedure produced text match exactly, it's as good as impossible that the OCR mistook the book table in exactly the right way to match the mistake the stored procedure produced.
It's not completely replacing manual checking, but it would be much, much faster to just check the possible mistakes instead of doing everything by hand.
They had never heard of OCR and diff?
Or even just different trig software on another computer and diff?
Neither may be perfect, but it'd sure speed up identifying the entries that you might want to have a human check by hand.
Oh wait, government funded project, you say? Never mind.
From the summary "becoming a good penetration tester (pen tester) takes more than a week-long class"
Using the few thousand business and government networks I've seen over many years, about 99% of them could be cracked very quickly by anyone with half a clue. What's more, in the majority of cases, the technical people involved (either in-house or consultants) pretty much all knew that.
It may take more than a week to become a good pen tester because that involves a more comprehensive look at finding ALL the vulnerabilities and providing priorities and instructions on fixing them, but it sure doesn't take that long to learn enough to crack most network security.
The most common network used to be completely un-hardened hosts running multiple insecure applications on unsegmented networks with multiple unmonitored internet connections.
About the only improvement in the "average" network nowadays is that a firewall or at least NAT device is generally found on the internet facing edges of that insecure network and not much more.
Sure, I've worked for large ecommerce companies where we had better security than most banks (at least according to our regular third-party security auditors), but the vast majority of networks out there are either small to medium businesses run by managers with no clue and less inclination to spend money on security, or large companies and government agencies where no one knows what's going on enough to close all the gaps.
Especially government agencies. A friend worked as a security consultant for a cabinet level agency that ran for years with all the firewalls in simple routing mode because one of the high level bureacrats decided it simplified things (you know, no pesky security in the way) and their IDS would be good enough security by itself. If you've seen most government contracted IDS, you know how much of a joke that is.
It's routine at some of the agencies I did consulting work for to have all the employees in the office using the same username and password. Of course, the password being "password" made it easy for them all to remember and happy to give it out to any outside who they thought might need it.
Just this last saturday I listened to someone in the park on their mobile phone tell their customer that their company email password was "password" so that the customer could check their email for a document they wanted.
Now with widespread unsecured wireless network use showing up all over the place..... ahhhh... the lack of security is too much to contemplate! At least you used to have to be able to somewhat guess an IP range if you wanted to target a specific office. Now people can generally just park nearby and watch all the packets go past.
Your comment is a perfect demonstration of the Fascist and Communist mindset.
"those of us enlightened enough to realize what needs to be done
Really, isn't it those of you arrogant enough to think you know better than everyone else what decisions they should be making?
Wow, how have the rest of use survived so long without you running our lives for us?
Right, because the liberal environmental terrorist wackos are all about giving you freedom instead of forcing you to obey their edicts about land use?
There are a lot more socialist and communist we-want-to-run-your-life liberal wacko's out there than there are many of the peace-love-and-rock-n-roll just leave everyone alone crowd anymore.
Especially the farther you get into politics, since politics tends to attract the control types, while the non-control types don't seem to desire the power as much.
I didn't say that most people agree with the criticism, just that it's valid.
There is a difference in many cases between the truth and popular opinion. This is just one of those cases.
Yeah, many people apparently believe it's ok to steal as long as it's technically legal. Some other people aren't as immoral as that, while a ton of others have just never thought about it, since they are comfortable in life and so couldn't care less about politics and such until someone comes along and takes their house to build a water-front country club, of course. Then those individuals start to notice.
"it can't be acknowledged as a valid criticism of the state"
No, it is still a valid criticism of the state. It's just that the other cases where the state does that are equally immoral, but simply less recognized by people who have been socialized in government schools becuase it's slightly less obvious.
So both situations are things the government has no business doing. When it's not being done by a government, we call it theft.
You postulated that the American people are more liberal than the members of congress.
I replied with a stat showing the percentage of the American people who consider themselves, liberal, moderate or conservative. You can't see how that applies? The only piece missing is what your assumption is about the members of congress, the group you were comparing them to.
I suppose you could be assuming that they are all conservatives, from Clinton and Kennedy on down to Pelosi, but somehow I don't think that's your assumption.
If you read what I actually said, It's moderates (many of whom voted for Bush and even more of whom voted for Kerry), conservatives and liberals. So your point is meaningless.