Can't remember where I heard it, but one old cosmological theory was the earth was flat and was held of by a circle of giant turtles. What did the turtles stand on? Another circle of even bigger turtles. What do they stand on? Hey, it's turtles all the way down.
Googling on "turtles all the way down" returns quite a few hits.
I'm talking about minor plot points. I read the book after I saw the movie (admittedly, I first saw the movie on TV when I was about 13, so a lot of it did go over my head). For example, in the movie it's not at all mentioned that the signal emitted by the monolith on the moon is directed to the monolith at Jupiter (or Saturn, depending on which book/movie). Without knowing that there is a secret element to the mission, it's hard to explain HAL's behaviour. The Jupiter mission was planned well in advance; plans to investigate what the signal was directed at were bolted on at the last minute.
And yeah, you only have to watch 2001 and 2010 to realize that Kubrick was the artist, and if you read 2061 and 3001 it's hammered in your head.
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As opposed to how it is now, where we're keeping two or three astronauts on a space station that needs 2.5 people just to do the routine maintenance?
I've heard that Stanford is a good school. Stanford was one of the *businessmen* who made a fortune building the transcontinental railroad, which opened up the American West. I don't really care if the first moonbase is called Starbucks Moonbase, as long as they ship back a bunch of He3.
No, the end of Revolutions will have the Architect realizing that what he believes is reality IS JUST ANOTHER SIMULATION!!! And it's all turtles below that . . .
In the latter part of the book "Orion Project", they make a pretty convincing argument that getting an (unmanned) Orion spaceship going at a pretty good clip and slamming it into an asteroid would be about the best way we could have in the near future of diverting an asteroid from a collision course.
The movie/screenplay was originally based on an Arthur C Clarke short story "The Sentinel", which tells the story of astronauts finding an alien artifact on the moon, and it sending out a signal to the aliens.
And yeah, reading the book helps you understand the movie quite a lot better. There also was a book called "The Lost Worlds Of 2001" which had a bunch of other stuff ACC wrote while coming up with the screenplay.
Slaves? Yeah, right. As horrible as their working conditions were, they were better than conditions in China at the time. Chinese workers came over here, voluntarily, in droves for a reason.
I don't even know why I'm responding to an AC. Every now and then I think they should change the "AC" designamtion to "AP"; it's more fitting in most cases.
Like politics, all news is local. Here in Texas if one of those 2 Americans is a Texan, that'll get mentioned and they'll spend more time talking about the Texan.
FWIW, over the last week or two I've copied about 300 CD-Rs onto disk that were recorded in the 1998 to 2001 timeframe, and the only real problem I saw was with one that was visibly scratched. I recorded them all at 4x.
Giving out free drugs won't help; if not used correctly, and if behaviours don't change, all it'll accomplish is create strains of virus resistant to the drugs. Many doctors in the US won't prescribe HIV drugs to patients, even ones fully insured, if they think they'll continue to engage in risky behaviour.
Somewhat similar to the people in western countries who'll demand to be given antibiotics when they have viral infections; the result is antibiotic resistant bacteria.
Or are you under the impression that the human race has ever actually come up with a *cure* for a viral disease?
Don't worry, man, it's not the DVD/VHS they're re-releasing; they're putting the extended versions of the first two in the theaters before the new one comes out.
So does this mean that a year from now the extended version of ROTK will be in the theaters?:)
Plenty of reasons to want Linux to succeed on the desktop.
1) If Linux has good market share, popular games and other applications will be released on Linux.
2) Increased viability of open file formats (OGG, etc.).
3) Microsoft locking down the world's computing platforms with Palladium a lot less likely.
4) Companies/sites that use non-standard HTML, etc. on their web sites will have a lot of people complaining.
If it ever gets to the point that a Linux box can't interface with a lot of the sites on the net because of proprietary interfaces, you'll be wishing Linux would have succeeded on the desktop.
In the Hacker's Dictionary, they talk about an OS that was delivered with its source; the programmers wanted a back door in it so they made the compiler so it would recognize when it was compiling the OS and it would put in the back door. They also had to deliver the compiler source, so they also modded the compiler so when it recompiled the compiler it would put in the hidden compiler code.
They don't talk about what computer/OS this was, though.
You're talking about how the system works *now*. I'm talking about what would happen before things got so bad that the citizens would revolt against the govt. Someone who proposed a solution that would go against the big money interests big time would have a much better chance of getting elected in that situation. Even Nader would probably get elected before civil war occurred.
I live in Texas. Google on "texas ordinance secession", read the reasons for secession straight from the horse's mouth, keeping in mind that Texas didn't have nearly as many slaves as a lot of the other states in the Confederacy. and then try to convince me the civil war wasn't about slavery. The only "state's rights" the South cared about was the right to keep slaves.
If you do read the Ordinance, I'll save you some time; the reference to the 3rd clause of the 2nd section of the 4th article of the constitution means that they're pissed off the north isn't returning their escaped slaves.
Why would there need to be a civil war? If enough people get pissed off, they'll *elect* someone to fix the problem. Doesn't matter how much money a politician gets, it still comes down to votes.
The Revolution was fought so we could govern ourselves. The South seceeded in the Civil War because it was inevitable that, through the democratic process, slavery would be ended.
You forgot subsidizing tobacco farmers, building 4 lane highways to pecan orchards (ever been around LBJ's ranch in Texas? Imagine it's pretty similar to Byrd country in West Virginia), and the other hundreds of billions spent on mindless crap.
Why can't they just limit govt to what is necessary? Hint: funding a program to make robots with the mental capacity of a five-year old isn't something they need to be spending tax dollars on. You may not be old enough to remember that a few decades ago the Japanese did *the same damn thing* with AI, with an expensive decades long govt funded research program. Didn't accomplish a single damn thing.
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Can't remember where I heard it, but one old cosmological theory was the earth was flat and was held of by a circle of giant turtles. What did the turtles stand on? Another circle of even bigger turtles. What do they stand on? Hey, it's turtles all the way down.
Googling on "turtles all the way down" returns quite a few hits.
I'm talking about minor plot points. I read the book after I saw the movie (admittedly, I first saw the movie on TV when I was about 13, so a lot of it did go over my head). For example, in the movie it's not at all mentioned that the signal emitted by the monolith on the moon is directed to the monolith at Jupiter (or Saturn, depending on which book/movie). Without knowing that there is a secret element to the mission, it's hard to explain HAL's behaviour. The Jupiter mission was planned well in advance; plans to investigate what the signal was directed at were bolted on at the last minute.
And yeah, you only have to watch 2001 and 2010 to realize that Kubrick was the artist, and if you read 2061 and 3001 it's hammered in your head.
I guess you don't live in Arkansas.
I've got a 25 year old book that describes how the space shuttle will have a launch cost of $100 a pound, and can be launched every month.
You can't trust anything a govt bureaucrat says because they can't be fired. No big whoop for them if they don't meet their cost targets.
As opposed to how it is now, where we're keeping two or three astronauts on a space station that needs 2.5 people just to do the routine maintenance?
I've heard that Stanford is a good school. Stanford was one of the *businessmen* who made a fortune building the transcontinental railroad, which opened up the American West. I don't really care if the first moonbase is called Starbucks Moonbase, as long as they ship back a bunch of He3.
Well, one of the advantages of not executing murderers is that they can kill pedophile priests with no consequences.
I'm sure they're referring to the actual religious sites/mosques, not the whole cities.
If a Pentecostal Christian started speaking in tongues and handling snakes in the nave of Notra Dame cathedral, they'd be told to leave too.
The Bible says pi is three; who are we to argue with God?
No, the end of Revolutions will have the Architect realizing that what he believes is reality IS JUST ANOTHER SIMULATION!!! And it's all turtles below that . . .
In the latter part of the book "Orion Project", they make a pretty convincing argument that getting an (unmanned) Orion spaceship going at a pretty good clip and slamming it into an asteroid would be about the best way we could have in the near future of diverting an asteroid from a collision course.
The movie/screenplay was originally based on an Arthur C Clarke short story "The Sentinel", which tells the story of astronauts finding an alien artifact on the moon, and it sending out a signal to the aliens.
And yeah, reading the book helps you understand the movie quite a lot better. There also was a book called "The Lost Worlds Of 2001" which had a bunch of other stuff ACC wrote while coming up with the screenplay.
Slaves? Yeah, right. As horrible as their working conditions were, they were better than conditions in China at the time. Chinese workers came over here, voluntarily, in droves for a reason.
I don't even know why I'm responding to an AC. Every now and then I think they should change the "AC" designamtion to "AP"; it's more fitting in most cases.
Like politics, all news is local. Here in Texas if one of those 2 Americans is a Texan, that'll get mentioned and they'll spend more time talking about the Texan.
A coal miner mining coal being used to run the power plant that provides electricity to NASA died today; it wasn't in the news either.
Astronauts dying is different. If Russians die going to or returning from the ISS, it's also a tragedy.
FWIW, over the last week or two I've copied about 300 CD-Rs onto disk that were recorded in the 1998 to 2001 timeframe, and the only real problem I saw was with one that was visibly scratched. I recorded them all at 4x.
Sorry, thought you were the person I was replying to.
Giving out free drugs won't help; if not used correctly, and if behaviours don't change, all it'll accomplish is create strains of virus resistant to the drugs. Many doctors in the US won't prescribe HIV drugs to patients, even ones fully insured, if they think they'll continue to engage in risky behaviour.
Somewhat similar to the people in western countries who'll demand to be given antibiotics when they have viral infections; the result is antibiotic resistant bacteria.
Or are you under the impression that the human race has ever actually come up with a *cure* for a viral disease?
Don't worry, man, it's not the DVD/VHS they're re-releasing; they're putting the extended versions of the first two in the theaters before the new one comes out.
:)
So does this mean that a year from now the extended version of ROTK will be in the theaters?
Plenty of reasons to want Linux to succeed on the desktop.
1) If Linux has good market share, popular games and other applications will be released on Linux.
2) Increased viability of open file formats (OGG, etc.).
3) Microsoft locking down the world's computing platforms with Palladium a lot less likely.
4) Companies/sites that use non-standard HTML, etc. on their web sites will have a lot of people complaining.
If it ever gets to the point that a Linux box can't interface with a lot of the sites on the net because of proprietary interfaces, you'll be wishing Linux would have succeeded on the desktop.
In the Hacker's Dictionary, they talk about an OS that was delivered with its source; the programmers wanted a back door in it so they made the compiler so it would recognize when it was compiling the OS and it would put in the back door. They also had to deliver the compiler source, so they also modded the compiler so when it recompiled the compiler it would put in the hidden compiler code.
They don't talk about what computer/OS this was, though.
It's even cheaper to tell them to not have sex with prostitutes or they'll die.
Of course, on slashdot people are used to going without sex for very long durations.
You're talking about how the system works *now*. I'm talking about what would happen before things got so bad that the citizens would revolt against the govt. Someone who proposed a solution that would go against the big money interests big time would have a much better chance of getting elected in that situation. Even Nader would probably get elected before civil war occurred.
I live in Texas. Google on "texas ordinance secession", read the reasons for secession straight from the horse's mouth, keeping in mind that Texas didn't have nearly as many slaves as a lot of the other states in the Confederacy. and then try to convince me the civil war wasn't about slavery. The only "state's rights" the South cared about was the right to keep slaves.
If you do read the Ordinance, I'll save you some time; the reference to the 3rd clause of the 2nd section of the 4th article of the constitution means that they're pissed off the north isn't returning their escaped slaves.
Why would there need to be a civil war? If enough people get pissed off, they'll *elect* someone to fix the problem. Doesn't matter how much money a politician gets, it still comes down to votes.
The Revolution was fought so we could govern ourselves. The South seceeded in the Civil War because it was inevitable that, through the democratic process, slavery would be ended.
You forgot subsidizing tobacco farmers, building 4 lane highways to pecan orchards (ever been around LBJ's ranch in Texas? Imagine it's pretty similar to Byrd country in West Virginia), and the other hundreds of billions spent on mindless crap.
Why can't they just limit govt to what is necessary? Hint: funding a program to make robots with the mental capacity of a five-year old isn't something they need to be spending tax dollars on. You may not be old enough to remember that a few decades ago the Japanese did *the same damn thing* with AI, with an expensive decades long govt funded research program. Didn't accomplish a single damn thing.
In the article, he guessed that a disgruntled former employee ratted him out to the BSA.
:)
You *did* read the article, right?