Actually, I did load a bunch of stuff on there. I think I hid it in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Fs2000\Temp\ (yes, I know that's a fake directory - however, Temp is an inconspicuous(sp?) name - after all, I hide stuff on a *nix system in/home/bhtooefr/.settings (no app would put anything there, so it's free game)...
BTW, they got the new one because the stock HP PSU failed. I got an identical replacement used in a somewhat less dusty environment, but I could have ordered one in for $25, and they paid $500 for a rig with WinXP Home, a Celeron 2.0GHz, 256MB RAM (don't know the type), 40GB Maxtor HDD, DVD-ROM drive, and throwing over the old CD-RW and 8.4GB HDD, so I had to get a new hard drive too.
Actually, that's almost what I did, except it was a Celeron, and the old box got RedsHat, which just plain didn't work, Win2K, and a SuSE 8.2 LiveEval. It was the server for my site for several months (which reminds me, I need to figure out what I'm going to do, as this was going to be my server, but I've made it into a workstation.
BTW, they didn't even want me to install OPERA (the web browser!) on there! They forced me to use Internet Explorer! They were afraid it would mess it up. After all, it was Windows 98 SE, and every time you install something, it fucks up (especially considering it was a Who-let-one (fudge)Packered pre-install).
Heh, like my parents would have let me do that. There was a product called WinLinux that would install on a 9x/ME system, and let you reboot into DOS mode and start it. They wouldn't let me install it because they were afraid it would mess things up. I threatened them with a RedHat 8 CD set I had just burned... didn't work.
As far as I can tell, Mac G3 and G4 Yikes/Sawtooth ARE mATX, except for the power supply connector, which has -5V and GND swapped, and the front panel connector (which pushes 24V for the FireWire ports, and has lights). Why not just use an old Mac mobo?
Myself, if I had unlimited funds for the mod, I'd have bought an AmigaONE Lite (or whatever it's called now), hacked the BIOS to boot Mac OS X (it's a G3 or G4, after all), and thrown that in. Mini-ITX goodness, and Mac OS X to boot!
An updated LOGO type of language with 3d graphics instead of turtles, that might inspire interest again.
Well, you still have a turtle (but you can change it's graphic), but MSWLogo has 3D support (however, much of the 3d stuff needs some CPU power - your generic old P75 rig won't work very well), and it's GPL to boot.
Your Overclockers Club link says that Ceramique, a NON-SILVER paste, performed better than AS3. Granted, it's made by Arctic Silver, but it kinda blows your point away.
1. Many sites let you just give them your info, without setting up an account. 2. It's good that this person got their RAM early, but if NewEgg had problems with the email, what else could happen?
DX: x1 clock multiplier, bus speed = CPU speed 25, 33, 40 (AMD only) MHz DX2: x2 clock multiplier, bus speed * 2 = CPU speed 50 (25 FSB), 66 (33 FSB), 80 (40 FSB - AMD, Cyrix) MHz DX4: x2.5 (only on paper) or x3 clock multiplier, bus speed * (2.5|3) = CPU speed 75 (25 FSB), 100 (33 FSB), 120 (40 FSB - AMD, Cyrix) MHz 5x86 (AMD): x4 clock multiplier, bus speed * 4 = CPU speed 100 (25 FSB), 133 (33 FSB) MHz (AFAIK on these)
Cyrix also made a 5x86, however, it actually had some Pentium instructions (the MediaGX was a faster 5x86 with an integrated memory controller, video card, and sound card). Also, I'd rather have a DX4/100 than a 5x86/100 or a DX4/120 over a 5x86/133 (however, my board would have to be REALLY good to take a 40MHz FSB CPU - the 120 was the best of those, however).
Three words: real world benchmarks. These are some of the things that these systems are going to be used for. If Word performance sucks on a Mac because of poor optimization, then it sucks, as people are going to end up using Word on either platform. Also, it wasn't just PCWorld who did the tests (or so they claim). MacWorld (the Mac version of PCWorld) helped develop the tests (as PCWorldBench wouldn't run on a Mac, after all), and also handled running them on the Mac. However, if you want (say) AnandTech to put a G5 2x2.0GHz up against an identically configured Opteron 246 2x2.0GHz, go for it. Just be sure to donate to the cause.
There wasn't much difference on IPC, but AMD did make a 386DX/40, whereas Intel only made a 386DX/33. 8088 was identical IPC and clock (4.77MHz, Intel design, Intel and AMD build), but 80286 wasn't on clock (was on IPC) (6 to 25MHz, Intel design, Intel (6-12MHz), AMD (6-20MHz), Harris (6-25MHz) build).
Mobile Pentium 4: Cooled-down P4 Pentium 4-M: Redesigned cooler yet P4 Pentium M (Centrino): Redesigned Pentium III to take advantage of modern technology (400MHz bus, SSE2, etc.) and be cooler yet. Celeron M: Pentium M failure/economic bin. Half the cache.
I would, but I could just get the PCWorld Athlon FX-51@2.2GHz (almost identical to an Opteron 148) vs. 2xOpteron 246 (2.0GHz) vs. Athlon 64 3200+ vs. P4 3.2 vs. 1.8 G5 vs 2x2.0 G5 benchmarks, and see that in all benchmarks except Photoshop (on the dual G5), Quake III on the A64 and O246 (probably the SMP), and Word on the O246, the x86 CPUs *MURDERED* the Macs. Yes, even the P4. BTW, the AMD CPUs did well against the P4, except in the Quake III and Word benchmarks (Intel optimized code, maybe - Q3 is definitely Intel-optimized, but WORD?)
NO WAY IN HELL. I got 8.2, and thought it was wonderful (no speed issues outside of normal KDE slowness - not an anti-KDE flame, GNOME's worse IMHO), until I began installing software. RPMs? Half didn't work, and I had to download 10 or 20 to fulfill dependencies of dependencies of dependencies. About 10% of what I attempted to compile actually worked (and I know it's just./configure, make, make install), even when figuring out what was missing and adding it.
Fedora if you've got a FAST machine (or REALLY care about good RPM compatibility - otherwise, even RH8 is too slow for many machines, even a P3-866 w/128MB RAM (didn't try pushing it to 256)), and maybe Mandrake if you don't (haven't tried MDK)?
I'm not sure how this MandrakeMove works, but if it's like Knoppix(-based Damn Small Linux), it'll go to a device that is recognized as a "USB Mass Storage Device" (/dev/sda), and mount it as/mnt/usbdrive. It can back up the ramdisk to/mnt/usbdrive or/mnt/floppy. BTW, dumb question, but I have a 4.3GB HDD in this sitting idle with a 4.3GB ReiserFS partition. How do I tell DSL to use it as the "ramdisk" instead of the ramdisk (I only have 96MB RAM, and want to be able to shut down without downloading MozFirebird+flash+extensions again and losing files, and all without a USB key or floppy)?
After all, the Win2K team was quoted as calling 98 (the team of which would have been reassigned to ME, most likely) a "toy OS".
BTW, this could also be a troll, as ME is as hard to install as 98 (identical installer, except for ME graphics and text). ME IS a piece of crap. The ME team might have said that (after all, chances are no Intel engineer would say the P4 was a good design, and it was essentially made by marketdroids) about their own creation, as it WAS a "trick" to make people think they were getting 2000 Home, when they were really getting 98 with a 2000 explorer.exe.
Careful, you could confuse the n00bs (or the people who don't have G&W Gallery (1/2/3) for GBC). Game and Watch, not Game Watch (the manual for G&W Gallery 2 even says it doesn't have timekeeping functions. WHY they didn't use a MBC5 (used in Pokeman G/S and later) for TIMEKEEPING beats me.
Let's just say it was on a server with less power than a C64 (background: Adam Dunkels, the creator of Contiki, got a C64 with TWO uVNC servers running, a RealAudio stream (off of a real cassette, no less), AND a webserver with ALL DYNAMIC pages, and it got/.ed as hard as any other server that gets mentioned here, and it DID NOT CRASH!)
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Actually, I did load a bunch of stuff on there. I think I hid it in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Fs2000\Temp\ (yes, I know that's a fake directory - however, Temp is an inconspicuous(sp?) name - after all, I hide stuff on a *nix system in /home/bhtooefr/.settings (no app would put anything there, so it's free game)...
BTW, they got the new one because the stock HP PSU failed. I got an identical replacement used in a somewhat less dusty environment, but I could have ordered one in for $25, and they paid $500 for a rig with WinXP Home, a Celeron 2.0GHz, 256MB RAM (don't know the type), 40GB Maxtor HDD, DVD-ROM drive, and throwing over the old CD-RW and 8.4GB HDD, so I had to get a new hard drive too.
Actually, that's almost what I did, except it was a Celeron, and the old box got RedsHat, which just plain didn't work, Win2K, and a SuSE 8.2 LiveEval. It was the server for my site for several months (which reminds me, I need to figure out what I'm going to do, as this was going to be my server, but I've made it into a workstation.
BTW, they didn't even want me to install OPERA (the web browser!) on there! They forced me to use Internet Explorer! They were afraid it would mess it up. After all, it was Windows 98 SE, and every time you install something, it fucks up (especially considering it was a Who-let-one (fudge)Packered pre-install).
Heh, like my parents would have let me do that. There was a product called WinLinux that would install on a 9x/ME system, and let you reboot into DOS mode and start it. They wouldn't let me install it because they were afraid it would mess things up. I threatened them with a RedHat 8 CD set I had just burned... didn't work.
Hmm, mATX?
As far as I can tell, Mac G3 and G4 Yikes/Sawtooth ARE mATX, except for the power supply connector, which has -5V and GND swapped, and the front panel connector (which pushes 24V for the FireWire ports, and has lights). Why not just use an old Mac mobo?
Myself, if I had unlimited funds for the mod, I'd have bought an AmigaONE Lite (or whatever it's called now), hacked the BIOS to boot Mac OS X (it's a G3 or G4, after all), and thrown that in. Mini-ITX goodness, and Mac OS X to boot!
I think CNet said it was three-keying itself 60 times a day.
An updated LOGO type of language with 3d graphics instead of turtles, that might inspire interest again.
Well, you still have a turtle (but you can change it's graphic), but MSWLogo has 3D support (however, much of the 3d stuff needs some CPU power - your generic old P75 rig won't work very well), and it's GPL to boot.
Be a student and get it for free. BTW, SO7 is MUCH faster than OOo 1.1 on either Windows or Linux.
Did you know that a Harris 286-25 could compete very well against an AMD 386DX-40 on 16-bit code? Didn't think so.
Just think of the heat a 2GHz 6502 would put out, though *puts a large heatsink on his 6502A@2MHz*
Could one overclock a 6502 that far, and it still be stable (LN2 with very high voltages?)
Your Overclockers Club link says that Ceramique, a NON-SILVER paste, performed better than AS3. Granted, it's made by Arctic Silver, but it kinda blows your point away.
1. Many sites let you just give them your info, without setting up an account.
2. It's good that this person got their RAM early, but if NewEgg had problems with the email, what else could happen?
YHBT by Intel, AMD, AND Cyrix.
DX: x1 clock multiplier, bus speed = CPU speed
25, 33, 40 (AMD only) MHz
DX2: x2 clock multiplier, bus speed * 2 = CPU speed
50 (25 FSB), 66 (33 FSB), 80 (40 FSB - AMD, Cyrix) MHz
DX4: x2.5 (only on paper) or x3 clock multiplier, bus speed * (2.5|3) = CPU speed
75 (25 FSB), 100 (33 FSB), 120 (40 FSB - AMD, Cyrix) MHz
5x86 (AMD): x4 clock multiplier, bus speed * 4 = CPU speed
100 (25 FSB), 133 (33 FSB) MHz (AFAIK on these)
Cyrix also made a 5x86, however, it actually had some Pentium instructions (the MediaGX was a faster 5x86 with an integrated memory controller, video card, and sound card). Also, I'd rather have a DX4/100 than a 5x86/100 or a DX4/120 over a 5x86/133 (however, my board would have to be REALLY good to take a 40MHz FSB CPU - the 120 was the best of those, however).
Three words: real world benchmarks. These are some of the things that these systems are going to be used for. If Word performance sucks on a Mac because of poor optimization, then it sucks, as people are going to end up using Word on either platform. Also, it wasn't just PCWorld who did the tests (or so they claim). MacWorld (the Mac version of PCWorld) helped develop the tests (as PCWorldBench wouldn't run on a Mac, after all), and also handled running them on the Mac. However, if you want (say) AnandTech to put a G5 2x2.0GHz up against an identically configured Opteron 246 2x2.0GHz, go for it. Just be sure to donate to the cause.
There wasn't much difference on IPC, but AMD did make a 386DX/40, whereas Intel only made a 386DX/33. 8088 was identical IPC and clock (4.77MHz, Intel design, Intel and AMD build), but 80286 wasn't on clock (was on IPC) (6 to 25MHz, Intel design, Intel (6-12MHz), AMD (6-20MHz), Harris (6-25MHz) build).
Mobile Pentium 4: Cooled-down P4
Pentium 4-M: Redesigned cooler yet P4
Pentium M (Centrino): Redesigned Pentium III to take advantage of modern technology (400MHz bus, SSE2, etc.) and be cooler yet.
Celeron M: Pentium M failure/economic bin. Half the cache.
They could have gone with... VxWorks
And they did, dipshit.
AMD vs. Intel:
Barton AXP: 75W (power-cutoff overheat protection)
Northwood P4: 90W (underclock overheat protection)
Clawhammer A64: 85W ("Cool & Quiet" - underclock)
Prescott P4: 100+W (underclock)
I think AMD's heat management isn't the problem.
I would, but I could just get the PCWorld Athlon FX-51@2.2GHz (almost identical to an Opteron 148) vs. 2xOpteron 246 (2.0GHz) vs. Athlon 64 3200+ vs. P4 3.2 vs. 1.8 G5 vs 2x2.0 G5 benchmarks, and see that in all benchmarks except Photoshop (on the dual G5), Quake III on the A64 and O246 (probably the SMP), and Word on the O246, the x86 CPUs *MURDERED* the Macs. Yes, even the P4. BTW, the AMD CPUs did well against the P4, except in the Quake III and Word benchmarks (Intel optimized code, maybe - Q3 is definitely Intel-optimized, but WORD?)
How bad is KDE3 on a PMMX-233 w/96MB RAM (TX chipset - Intel bastards limiting me to 128MB RAM - which I will max out soon...)
NO WAY IN HELL. I got 8.2, and thought it was wonderful (no speed issues outside of normal KDE slowness - not an anti-KDE flame, GNOME's worse IMHO), until I began installing software. RPMs? Half didn't work, and I had to download 10 or 20 to fulfill dependencies of dependencies of dependencies. About 10% of what I attempted to compile actually worked (and I know it's just ./configure, make, make install), even when figuring out what was missing and adding it.
Fedora if you've got a FAST machine (or REALLY care about good RPM compatibility - otherwise, even RH8 is too slow for many machines, even a P3-866 w/128MB RAM (didn't try pushing it to 256)), and maybe Mandrake if you don't (haven't tried MDK)?
I'm not sure how this MandrakeMove works, but if it's like Knoppix(-based Damn Small Linux), it'll go to a device that is recognized as a "USB Mass Storage Device" (/dev/sda), and mount it as /mnt/usbdrive. It can back up the ramdisk to /mnt/usbdrive or /mnt/floppy. BTW, dumb question, but I have a 4.3GB HDD in this sitting idle with a 4.3GB ReiserFS partition. How do I tell DSL to use it as the "ramdisk" instead of the ramdisk (I only have 96MB RAM, and want to be able to shut down without downloading MozFirebird+flash+extensions again and losing files, and all without a USB key or floppy)?
Are you sure they were really on the ME team?
After all, the Win2K team was quoted as calling 98 (the team of which would have been reassigned to ME, most likely) a "toy OS".
BTW, this could also be a troll, as ME is as hard to install as 98 (identical installer, except for ME graphics and text). ME IS a piece of crap. The ME team might have said that (after all, chances are no Intel engineer would say the P4 was a good design, and it was essentially made by marketdroids) about their own creation, as it WAS a "trick" to make people think they were getting 2000 Home, when they were really getting 98 with a 2000 explorer.exe.
Careful, you could confuse the n00bs (or the people who don't have G&W Gallery (1/2/3) for GBC). Game and Watch, not Game Watch (the manual for G&W Gallery 2 even says it doesn't have timekeeping functions. WHY they didn't use a MBC5 (used in Pokeman G/S and later) for TIMEKEEPING beats me.
Let's just say it was on a server with less power than a C64 (background: Adam Dunkels, the creator of Contiki, got a C64 with TWO uVNC servers running, a RealAudio stream (off of a real cassette, no less), AND a webserver with ALL DYNAMIC pages, and it got /.ed as hard as any other server that gets mentioned here, and it DID NOT CRASH!)
I was like all hard boiled and mutated looking ...
Ah, so you're an egghead, and you were exposed to high-power microwaves for a little over two minutes? *ducks*