Please mod parent up - that's one of the most important details!
This is just an another example in a long list of the bbc's conflicting interests. Somehow they seem to just get away with this stuff despite their original charter (and justification for subsidisation).
I'm sure if the UK government was using public money to advertise their side of the case via google or any other BLATANT commercial method, there would be more people complaining, and justifiably so.
(and yes, I am one of 'those' who evades the bbc's fake-inverse-TEMPEST-detection technology for exactly this kind of reason;))
"Also prevent you from copying banknotes. There's a pattern of dots in a specific shad of yellow on banknotes which is recognised by the photocopier (and presumably also by PhotoShop), which rejects the copy. A mate of mine did some research into it, and it's possible to draw a picture using a yellow(ish) pen that'll be refused, if you know the dot pattern"
Back in the late 80s/early 90s, I was working for a well known copier/fax/printer manufacturer on the team creating self diagnostic ROMS for the equipment and can remember the fun we all had when working with the (then) new colour laser copiers - opening desk drawers and 100,000 of twenties etc. Back then it was entirely a case of hardware/optics limitations affecting the copy - not got to the stage of deliberately restricting copy content! (and yes, they were spendable)
Unfortunately these days I only get to write win32 stuff, but it would be interesting to get some ROM dumps and check out what's going on:) Maybe a cottage industry in it: www.getyour.copiermods.com (fake):)
The moderation is screwed! The parent '5, Insightful' is showing as '5, Funny' for some reason(!)
As a UK 'citizen' who is 'lucky' enough to see the current load of self-serving, jeering, ignorant political whores performing live, I can confirm the parent post is true!
The novel was previously adapted into a cheap-looking BBC series, which you can see on DVD and anticipate slightly better special effects for the new version.
This sounds cool as long as it doesn't turn into some Hollywood style space jaunt full of effects and no character. The BBC effects were straight from Dr. Who's reject cupboard but I thought it suited the underlying sarcasm of the book;) Besides, the BBC DVD version has some great interesting subtitles of where the stuff was recorded etc. for those of us who remember watching it the first time round on TV
Actually, thinking about it, I could stand Zaphod's heads being slightly better;)
holywood and divx in one sentence? i would think that they wouldnt link the idea of divx because it's so easily distributed and has no copy protection.
What difference is there between this and going to the park, sitting on a bench, and people-watching?
The difference is instead of a few hundred people or whatever casually taking a look around while they are also in a public situation, The Rest of the World[tm] can look on in private, maybe store the pictures and use/abuse/reuse/do nothing with them.
If I'm sat on the park bench with my children and numerous physically-there people begin snapping pictures of us constantly, I'm at least aware and able to address the situation.
re: quotas - that seems to be the most sensible and workable proposal anyone has put forward so far.
...and really, if someone's system is compromised by running freeporn.exe/open relay or whatever and they get hit for going over, then it's their own problem and maybe they'll be wiser in future. If you're not careful with your wallet and lose all your cash is it not your own fault?;) Saying that, I'm sure if a quota system was in place and one day the amount of traffic was massively over a user's average, it would be easy to argue.
"It's still BSA that's asserting the belief, not the software that's making the assertion, which is the point I was making. No, they didn't say their belief is based on confidence in their software, but clearly it is."
I agree. My (implicit) point was if they are automatically issuing a form of document that requires specific detail (ie: legal) they should cover the fact that it is automatically generated and not the work of a human. If they fail to do so, then surely they should/would be held accountable for what was actually sent, not what they meant.
"Fine then print it out on your precious paper and jack off all over it for all we care."
hahaha. not bad you retarded adobe puppet.
If you're so stupid as to assume that PDF is the only way to electronically transmit or provide documentation then you need to grow up and get some insight and/or skills. damn!
Just ONE (and there are many) cheap and cheerful method would be to whack it together as html, pictures, diagrams and all. If you're emailing anyway then you're assuming the recipient has some 'net access - send as html mail (if you must), or put it online so you don't have to waste bandwidth emailing a bloated, fat, clunky PDF to n*people.
"But a human can assert a "good faith belief" that a Web robot is detecting files properly, which is what BSA is doing..."
Except that's not what they said. It doesn't say anywhere 'we have a good faith belief that our software which tracks down illicit copies of copyright software and issues legal documents is correct'.
XOR fingerprinting using system specific information is a pretty good way to secure a piece of software - create a source key, send to vendor, vendor creates actual license key. The level of security would depend on what information was used in the first place - if it was only drive serial then relocating the drive to another machine wouldn't cause any problems but would reduce the strength of the protection (re-serialising to match, cloning of drive etc). If many factors are used (OS ver, amount of memory, chipset info etc) then it would be much stronger, but also render the license invalid if extra memory or any other change was made (yak).
Of course, any method gets cracked sooner or later (usually sooner);) protection methods should keep the fk out of areas that are usually reserved for OS/system functionality tho, imho.
Along with the rants, there's some interesting ideas about who and why, with major copyright holders and money for a debt-ridden company being used in the same string;)
At least it sounds like SEGA will be concentrating on arcade tech again. Since the megadrive/genesis they've not really been on the ball in the home market but in the arcade they've been a real force to be reckoned with for many many years.
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Please mod parent up - that's one of the most important details!
;))
This is just an another example in a long list of the bbc's conflicting interests. Somehow they seem to just get away with this stuff despite their original charter (and justification for subsidisation).
I'm sure if the UK government was using public money to advertise their side of the case via google or any other BLATANT commercial method, there would be more people complaining, and justifiably so.
(and yes, I am one of 'those' who evades the bbc's fake-inverse-TEMPEST-detection technology for exactly this kind of reason
"Also prevent you from copying banknotes. There's a pattern of dots in a specific shad of yellow on banknotes which is recognised by the photocopier (and presumably also by PhotoShop), which rejects the copy. A mate of mine did some research into it, and it's possible to draw a picture using a yellow(ish) pen that'll be refused, if you know the dot pattern"
:) Maybe a cottage industry in it: www.getyour.copiermods.com (fake) :)
Back in the late 80s/early 90s, I was working for a well known copier/fax/printer manufacturer on the team creating self diagnostic ROMS for the equipment and can remember the fun we all had when working with the (then) new colour laser copiers - opening desk drawers and 100,000 of twenties etc. Back then it was entirely a case of hardware/optics limitations affecting the copy - not got to the stage of deliberately restricting copy content! (and yes, they were spendable)
Unfortunately these days I only get to write win32 stuff, but it would be interesting to get some ROM dumps and check out what's going on
must go check out hosting options in Sealand...
The moderation is screwed! The parent '5, Insightful' is showing as '5, Funny' for some reason(!)
;)
As a UK 'citizen' who is 'lucky' enough to see the current load of self-serving, jeering, ignorant political whores performing live, I can confirm the parent post is true!
from the article:
;) Besides, the BBC DVD version has some great interesting subtitles of where the stuff was recorded etc. for those of us who remember watching it the first time round on TV
;)
The novel was previously adapted into a cheap-looking BBC series, which you can see on DVD and anticipate slightly better special effects for the new version.
This sounds cool as long as it doesn't turn into some Hollywood style space jaunt full of effects and no character. The BBC effects were straight from Dr. Who's reject cupboard but I thought it suited the underlying sarcasm of the book
Actually, thinking about it, I could stand Zaphod's heads being slightly better
holywood and divx in one sentence? i would think that they wouldnt link the idea of divx because it's so easily distributed and has no copy protection.
...currently ;)
What difference is there between this and going to the park, sitting on a bench, and people-watching?
;)
The difference is instead of a few hundred people or whatever casually taking a look around while they are also in a public situation, The Rest of the World[tm] can look on in private, maybe store the pictures and use/abuse/reuse/do nothing with them.
If I'm sat on the park bench with my children and numerous physically-there people begin snapping pictures of us constantly, I'm at least aware and able to address the situation.
Now, what was that shower cam link?...
Are there no [black marker pens/scissors/digits to tear with] where you live also? ;)
re: quotas - that seems to be the most sensible and workable proposal anyone has put forward so far.
...and really, if someone's system is compromised by running freeporn.exe/open relay or whatever and they get hit for going over, then it's their own problem and maybe they'll be wiser in future. If you're not careful with your wallet and lose all your cash is it not your own fault? ;) Saying that, I'm sure if a quota system was in place and one day the amount of traffic was massively over a user's average, it would be easy to argue.
For old timers (and emulator users I guess) - don't forget Firebird software from BT in the 80s - and they're also a dinosaur of a company :))
...and it's not like they don't try - remember their claims over hyperlink technology? here and here . (thanks google for a big 2 links)
(yes, I'm joking)
I think the important question is, why does every video game on tv sound like Pac Man for the 2600?
;)
damn right! I've noticed that since the 80s up to present day. CLANK CLANK CLANK CLANK... so close to the original, too(!)
Is there some 'realistic computer noises'[tm] audio stock all non-primetime studios bought back in the day?
"It's still BSA that's asserting the belief, not the software that's making the assertion, which is the point I was making. No, they didn't say their belief is based on confidence in their software, but clearly it is."
I agree. My (implicit) point was if they are automatically issuing a form of document that requires specific detail (ie: legal) they should cover the fact that it is automatically generated and not the work of a human. If they fail to do so, then surely they should/would be held accountable for what was actually sent, not what they meant.
"Fine then print it out on your precious paper and jack off all over it for all we care."
hahaha. not bad you retarded adobe puppet.
If you're so stupid as to assume that PDF is the only way to electronically transmit or provide documentation then you need to grow up and get some insight and/or skills. damn!
Just ONE (and there are many) cheap and cheerful method would be to whack it together as html, pictures, diagrams and all. If you're emailing anyway then you're assuming the recipient has some 'net access - send as html mail (if you must), or put it online so you don't have to waste bandwidth emailing a bloated, fat, clunky PDF to n*people.
now stfu and go pay adobe some more $$$. sucker.
... and don't forget PDF is AWFUL! acrobat is so damn clunky.
"But a human can assert a "good faith belief" that a Web robot is detecting files properly, which is what BSA is doing..."
Except that's not what they said. It doesn't say anywhere 'we have a good faith belief that our software which tracks down illicit copies of copyright software and issues legal documents is correct'.
Well that seems pretty open and straightforward. Respect for clarifying things.
XOR fingerprinting using system specific information is a pretty good way to secure a piece of software - create a source key, send to vendor, vendor creates actual license key. The level of security would depend on what information was used in the first place - if it was only drive serial then relocating the drive to another machine wouldn't cause any problems but would reduce the strength of the protection (re-serialising to match, cloning of drive etc). If many factors are used (OS ver, amount of memory, chipset info etc) then it would be much stronger, but also render the license invalid if extra memory or any other change was made (yak).
;) protection methods should keep the fk out of areas that are usually reserved for OS/system functionality tho, imho.
Of course, any method gets cracked sooner or later (usually sooner)
I hope you're not using NTL (see this)
;)
Along with the rants, there's some interesting ideas about who and why, with major copyright holders and money for a debt-ridden company being used in the same string
At least it sounds like SEGA will be concentrating on arcade tech again. Since the megadrive/genesis they've not really been on the ball in the home market but in the arcade they've been a real force to be reckoned with for many many years.