I'm glad the transition from 4 to 5 was an nice, easy one for you. 3 to 4 and 4 to 5 were not so easy for me. I guess it all depends on the kind of cose you write and your target use. As one who had lots of scripts dealing with email and email addresses, it was quite the pain having to go back and put \'s in front of all my relevant @'s (and figuring out which ones were the relevant @'s:).
perl 5 does just about everything I need. From everything I've read, perl 6 will have enough changes to make it almost like learning a new language. Yes, I know there will be a "backwards compatibility" mode, but why do I get the feeeling that if one has problems with the backwards compatibiltiy mode, the answer that will be offered will be "rewrite it as perl 6 code"?
Give me a seasoned vet who has the depth and breadth of experience to have learned all of those "only happens once every x years" type of lessons over some young, fast coder who has yet to learn these lessons.
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Does your mom count?
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or tab completion, or inline editing, etc... Real men use SysV R3/bin/sh on an old Wyse 60. For a real trip, try the Mashey Shell (predates the Bourne Shell).
Except, of course, for the kernel upgrade you overlook in your reply.
I've had two machines on routable IPs for several years, one Win2k and one RedHat. Guess which one the script-kiddies got to when I fell behind in keepgin the up to date? Hint... not the OS from Redmond.
Let's see... since April 1st, I've received 11 security notices from RedHat about stuff that needs patching... run up2date, restart services, etc... In the same time, I've received 1 from Microsoft, that took 2-3 mouse clicks to install. Which system have I spent more time and money maintaining?
Given that the cover of the March 15th issue of CIO magazine is titled "Your Open Source Plan", I'd have to say more IT managers are thinking about it than you are of. Worth a read, IMHO.
1) I travel to a different continent every 2 weeks (Europe->US->Asia-US->repeat...)
2) I work for a company that designs cellular phones for brand-name mfgs
3) My company doesn't mfg the t68i
4) I change phones about every 6 months and have for about 10 years
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Anytime you call something a compound, the government raids it. He should have called it a campus, or research park, or something
...Microsoft Bob's dog?
It doesn't matter how big you are, you buy MS software through a reseller. MS sets the discount level, but doesn't handle the actual sales.
I'm glad the transition from 4 to 5 was an nice, easy one for you. 3 to 4 and 4 to 5 were not so easy for me. I guess it all depends on the kind of cose you write and your target use. As one who had lots of scripts dealing with email and email addresses, it was quite the pain having to go back and put \'s in front of all my relevant @'s (and figuring out which ones were the relevant @'s :).
perl 5 does just about everything I need. From everything I've read, perl 6 will have enough changes to make it almost like learning a new language. Yes, I know there will be a "backwards compatibility" mode, but why do I get the feeeling that if one has problems with the backwards compatibiltiy mode, the answer that will be offered will be "rewrite it as perl 6 code"?
Give me a seasoned vet who has the depth and breadth of experience to have learned all of those "only happens once every x years" type of lessons over some young, fast coder who has yet to learn these lessons.
Does your mom count?
or tab completion, or inline editing, etc... Real men use SysV R3 /bin/sh on an old Wyse 60. For a real trip, try the Mashey Shell (predates the Bourne Shell).
As in Superfluous Meaningless Thread Posting?
You're fired
I see a restraining order in your future
Older coders tend to have fewer authority issues.
You can find one of the more definitive papers here.
I can see the sales reps now expounding on why you _MUST_ have this. Cisco's IP phone stuff is pretty darn pricey too.
Please tell me where I can get a guaranteed return of 4% on my money. My corporate treasurer would like to know too.
Do Feral Dogs Herd Electric Sheep?
Except, of course, for the kernel upgrade you overlook in your reply. I've had two machines on routable IPs for several years, one Win2k and one RedHat. Guess which one the script-kiddies got to when I fell behind in keepgin the up to date? Hint... not the OS from Redmond.
Let's see... since April 1st, I've received 11 security notices from RedHat about stuff that needs patching... run up2date, restart services, etc... In the same time, I've received 1 from Microsoft, that took 2-3 mouse clicks to install. Which system have I spent more time and money maintaining?
I am a recovering sysadmin. :)
- Pogo
Wow! Google is richer than Bechtel?!?!
Can you say "statistically insignificant"?
Given that the cover of the March 15th issue of CIO magazine is titled "Your Open Source Plan", I'd have to say more IT managers are thinking about it than you are of. Worth a read, IMHO.
- Len Bosack, Founder of Cisco Systems
2) I work for a company that designs cellular phones for brand-name mfgs
3) My company doesn't mfg the t68i
4) I change phones about every 6 months and have for about 10 years
I love my t68i. Absolutely love it.
Well, at least for a couple more months. :)