Here's the definition of the word "Analogy" from Dictionary.net: A resemblance of relations; an agreement or likeness between things in some circumstances or effects, when the things are otherwise entirely different. Thus, learning enlightens the mind, because it is to the mind what light is to the eye, enabling it to discover things before hidden.
Yes, computers aren't biological organisims and "viruses" don't work the same way, but the concept is still the same - that's what makes it an analogy. Diversity increases security. It's not exactly a new idea, and I think calling someone an idiot for saying so especially when you have given no sort of evidence is just stupid.
You can easily compile a new module for any kernel you want without knowing the exact kernel version. As is the case with the nvidia KERNEL module. The kernel is in exactly the same position as X.Org just even more modular.
I think that bugging everything that is used by a foreign government (even allied governments) is bugged and that's just something that happens, almost as if it's expected. The following is from a friend of a friend of a family member so expect it to be exaggerated or possibly wrong (though I don't think it is), but apparently every piece of military hardware imported from America here to Australia is striped and taken apart and thoroughly checked for tracking devices and bugs, and they're routinely found. This is one of the closest allies in the "War on Terror".
Also, if you read the other link it says "During the past weeks there has been close collaboration between Sun
engineers and Debian and Ubuntu developers."
The blue ray laptop is on the right, the DVD laptop is on the left. They opened the drive of the laptop on the left (you can see the edge of the table underneath the laptop).
The Kororaa distro has been taken offline? How come I can still download it at http://kororaa.org/static.php?page=static060318-18 1203? Skip the melodrama - some arsehole sent a self-rightious email to the maintainer and everyone simultaniously said "wow, what a fuckwit". Noone knows whether the nVidia drivers are against the GPL but someone has to actually sue them to find out - do you really see that happening?
You're comparing two different situations here. You're comparing Windows at 1 (preinstalled) to Linux at 3 (seeking it out). You're also comparing two different skill levels (I'm probably as good at Linux as you are at Windows - it took me about a half hour, perhaps 45 mins to fully install Kubuntu a few weeks ago from scratch, though that may have been because of better hardware choises as well as I have an nvidia graphics card and a linux-compatible wireless card). But yes I have installed Windows XP more times than I can bother to count, mostly on computers that didn't come with Windows preinstalled so I have to manually install all drivers and applications, and when I want to do it properly which includes downloading all updates and installing software like Firefox, antivirus, firewall, graphics and multimedia programs and perhaps a couple of games, it'd take at least a few hours. Same with Linux of course, though admittedly I was pleasantly surprised when I saw Kubuntu actually coming with almost all of the software that I usually use, so I found myself quite bored after about ten minutes of customising it to exactly how I wanted it. Debian is a lot more fun that way.
I think that you might be able to better compare it if you skip the Applications and Drivers DVD and actually try installing it properly.
Does anyone know if any of these have good open support (I'm going to presume patchy [at best] for ATI, closed fast drivers from nvidia & good drivers [but crappy hardware] for the s27)
You presume right. Nowadays I don't buy anything but nVidia graphics cards - I like my Doom 3 and co. and I can never be bothered rebooting to Windows. Hell I got Serious Sam 2 with my 7600GT and I can't even be bothered installing it and playing it.
Is there a linux tech site that reviews hardware under different flavors of linux? That would be a useful site. Especially if they dived into driver compatibility issues on different distributions.
I think that Linux adopters will fall into 4 categories:
1. They will have Linux preinstalled (in which case they don't have to go out and search for the software they need for day to day usage)
2. They will have gotten it with a book (in which case they can read the book to find out what to do)
3. They have actually gone out and sought Linux to install on their computer (in which case they've *already* gone out and searched for the software they need)
4. A friend told them to install it and gave them the CDs (in which case they can bug their friend)
None of those cases give the result of the Author's point. The review is corrupt simply because the author both sought out Linux but even though he took the time to install it he didn't want to take the time to install any software. He obviously didn't even read the sections of the book concerning it (if there were no sections it's a crap book). Even Windows without preinstallation requires huge amounts of time to install software - you'd set aside a day to do it properly.
But I own all the games on that list and their ability to run in Linux is great because I really plan on shedding Windows for good with this next PC upgrade.
Just a little addon to your post I think is interesting, I saw an article today about a linux client for Serious Sam 2 being in development and I thought "That sounds cool, I'd play that!" then realised that Serious Sam 2 is the game that came free with my video card. So basically not only would I not buy a game where I have to boot into Windows to play it, but even if someone gave me a cool game, if I had to boot into Windows for it I wouldn't even play it.
Incidentally Doom 3 rocks under Linux with an nVidia 7600GT. I'm still looking for the frame counter for Battle for Wesnoth.
So what? Google's more than just a search engine - it's a huge advertising firm that just happens to create some neat software. A company as big as Google doesn't just die. Besides, I think that you're full of crap, not just because there'd be a huge antitrust spat if IE had a non-changable lock to msn search, but also because you don't MSN Search something, you Google it. That's not going to change anytime soon.
I'm free to swim to Europe, that doesn't mean I can. I'm also free to build a formula one vehicle, but that doesn't mean I know how, or have the resources to do it.
I think this author has a strange meaning of the word "free". "Free" has nothing to do with the credentials of the user - if they want to use the software they're free to learn how to.
ha! I didn't even realise that as I was writing it. As normal for any internet posts, my post accidentally says more then I wanted it to say.
To tell the truth I didn't think about the connection between Apple and apple. I was just thinking about all the apple exploding videos around - it's probably the fruit that's most fun to put a bullet into.
I'm calling bullshit on that. True, Macs haven't been tested with a huge market share like Windows has, but you seem to be using that as proof that Macs have as bad-a security model as Windows. My favourite analogy to this is asking which one is more bulletproof, an apple or a kevlar vest. You'd shoot the apple into smitherines then say "Obviously the kevlar vest would crumble similarly if I shot it therefore neither are bulletproof".
You're right that they have never been "immune" to viruses. I don't expect you to say something stupid like that *nothing* is immune to viruses unless you can successfully hack my hello world program, but macs definitely aren't. That doesn't mean they're as bad as Windows though, so if you say something like "Nor even markedly more resistant" how about you back up that comment...
It's simple: Standards for communication and interoperatability = good. Standards for implimentation = bad.
For example HTTP is a communication standard which is good. HTML is a communications standard which is good. However having one master implimentation of the HTML standard (say if we all decided to standardise our web browsers on IE) is bad - the implimentation might for example be insecure or corrupt, or it might just work badly. You might have one person who wants to display the HTML in all it's bright <blink> glory, and another person who wants just the plain text. Choise of implimentation is good, but having no standards for interoperatability is bad. Microsoft seems to want to standardise on an implimentation but not on communication.
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He didn't draw any conclusions sans argument from the analogy. It was just an analogy. His arguments come immediately afterwards in the article.
He also didn't draw any conclusions on increasing economic efficiency. If others have argued that that's their problem, not his.
Here's the definition of the word "Analogy" from Dictionary.net: A resemblance of relations; an agreement or likeness between things in some circumstances or effects, when the things are otherwise entirely different. Thus, learning enlightens the mind, because it is to the mind what light is to the eye, enabling it to discover things before hidden.
Yes, computers aren't biological organisims and "viruses" don't work the same way, but the concept is still the same - that's what makes it an analogy. Diversity increases security. It's not exactly a new idea, and I think calling someone an idiot for saying so especially when you have given no sort of evidence is just stupid.
Better luck next time. . .
Don't be a smart arse. You're lucky you aren't living in Nazi Germany - you'd be sent straight to a concentration camp for crap like that.
You can easily compile a new module for any kernel you want without knowing the exact kernel version. As is the case with the nvidia KERNEL module. The kernel is in exactly the same position as X.Org just even more modular.
The kernel is modular.
I think that bugging everything that is used by a foreign government (even allied governments) is bugged and that's just something that happens, almost as if it's expected. The following is from a friend of a friend of a family member so expect it to be exaggerated or possibly wrong (though I don't think it is), but apparently every piece of military hardware imported from America here to Australia is striped and taken apart and thoroughly checked for tracking devices and bugs, and they're routinely found. This is one of the closest allies in the "War on Terror".
Debian has libgcj too...
Also, if you read the other link it says "During the past weeks there has been close collaboration between Sun engineers and Debian and Ubuntu developers."
The blue ray laptop is on the right, the DVD laptop is on the left. They opened the drive of the laptop on the left (you can see the edge of the table underneath the laptop).
The Kororaa distro has been taken offline? How come I can still download it at http://kororaa.org/static.php?page=static060318-18 1203? Skip the melodrama - some arsehole sent a self-rightious email to the maintainer and everyone simultaniously said "wow, what a fuckwit". Noone knows whether the nVidia drivers are against the GPL but someone has to actually sue them to find out - do you really see that happening?
You're comparing two different situations here. You're comparing Windows at 1 (preinstalled) to Linux at 3 (seeking it out). You're also comparing two different skill levels (I'm probably as good at Linux as you are at Windows - it took me about a half hour, perhaps 45 mins to fully install Kubuntu a few weeks ago from scratch, though that may have been because of better hardware choises as well as I have an nvidia graphics card and a linux-compatible wireless card). But yes I have installed Windows XP more times than I can bother to count, mostly on computers that didn't come with Windows preinstalled so I have to manually install all drivers and applications, and when I want to do it properly which includes downloading all updates and installing software like Firefox, antivirus, firewall, graphics and multimedia programs and perhaps a couple of games, it'd take at least a few hours. Same with Linux of course, though admittedly I was pleasantly surprised when I saw Kubuntu actually coming with almost all of the software that I usually use, so I found myself quite bored after about ten minutes of customising it to exactly how I wanted it. Debian is a lot more fun that way.
I think that you might be able to better compare it if you skip the Applications and Drivers DVD and actually try installing it properly.
Does anyone know if any of these have good open support (I'm going to presume patchy [at best] for ATI, closed fast drivers from nvidia & good drivers [but crappy hardware] for the s27)
You presume right. Nowadays I don't buy anything but nVidia graphics cards - I like my Doom 3 and co. and I can never be bothered rebooting to Windows. Hell I got Serious Sam 2 with my 7600GT and I can't even be bothered installing it and playing it.
Is there a linux tech site that reviews hardware under different flavors of linux? That would be a useful site. Especially if they dived into driver compatibility issues on different distributions.
Try http://www.phoronix.com/
I think that Linux adopters will fall into 4 categories:
1. They will have Linux preinstalled (in which case they don't have to go out and search for the software they need for day to day usage)
2. They will have gotten it with a book (in which case they can read the book to find out what to do)
3. They have actually gone out and sought Linux to install on their computer (in which case they've *already* gone out and searched for the software they need)
4. A friend told them to install it and gave them the CDs (in which case they can bug their friend)
None of those cases give the result of the Author's point. The review is corrupt simply because the author both sought out Linux but even though he took the time to install it he didn't want to take the time to install any software. He obviously didn't even read the sections of the book concerning it (if there were no sections it's a crap book). Even Windows without preinstallation requires huge amounts of time to install software - you'd set aside a day to do it properly.
Anyway, I'm calling shinanigans.
But I own all the games on that list and their ability to run in Linux is great because I really plan on shedding Windows for good with this next PC upgrade.
Just a little addon to your post I think is interesting, I saw an article today about a linux client for Serious Sam 2 being in development and I thought "That sounds cool, I'd play that!" then realised that Serious Sam 2 is the game that came free with my video card. So basically not only would I not buy a game where I have to boot into Windows to play it, but even if someone gave me a cool game, if I had to boot into Windows for it I wouldn't even play it.
Incidentally Doom 3 rocks under Linux with an nVidia 7600GT. I'm still looking for the frame counter for Battle for Wesnoth.
The whole discussion of Windows vs anything else is totally pointless. All popular OSes are Windows.
I like it how millions upon millions of installations isn't counted as "popular".
Plenty of adblockers allow downloading of the images but don't show them on the page. In fact mine does this.
I'm not sure why that's really surprising, how many people link to IE's download page when everyone who has Windows has IE anyway?
So what? Google's more than just a search engine - it's a huge advertising firm that just happens to create some neat software. A company as big as Google doesn't just die. Besides, I think that you're full of crap, not just because there'd be a huge antitrust spat if IE had a non-changable lock to msn search, but also because you don't MSN Search something, you Google it. That's not going to change anytime soon.
I'm free to swim to Europe, that doesn't mean I can. I'm also free to build a formula one vehicle, but that doesn't mean I know how, or have the resources to do it.
I think this author has a strange meaning of the word "free". "Free" has nothing to do with the credentials of the user - if they want to use the software they're free to learn how to.
ha! I didn't even realise that as I was writing it. As normal for any internet posts, my post accidentally says more then I wanted it to say.
To tell the truth I didn't think about the connection between Apple and apple. I was just thinking about all the apple exploding videos around - it's probably the fruit that's most fun to put a bullet into.
I'm calling bullshit on that. True, Macs haven't been tested with a huge market share like Windows has, but you seem to be using that as proof that Macs have as bad-a security model as Windows. My favourite analogy to this is asking which one is more bulletproof, an apple or a kevlar vest. You'd shoot the apple into smitherines then say "Obviously the kevlar vest would crumble similarly if I shot it therefore neither are bulletproof".
You're right that they have never been "immune" to viruses. I don't expect you to say something stupid like that *nothing* is immune to viruses unless you can successfully hack my hello world program, but macs definitely aren't. That doesn't mean they're as bad as Windows though, so if you say something like "Nor even markedly more resistant" how about you back up that comment...
Oh it's all been done before.
It's simple: Standards for communication and interoperatability = good. Standards for implimentation = bad.
For example HTTP is a communication standard which is good. HTML is a communications standard which is good. However having one master implimentation of the HTML standard (say if we all decided to standardise our web browsers on IE) is bad - the implimentation might for example be insecure or corrupt, or it might just work badly. You might have one person who wants to display the HTML in all it's bright <blink> glory, and another person who wants just the plain text. Choise of implimentation is good, but having no standards for interoperatability is bad. Microsoft seems to want to standardise on an implimentation but not on communication.
This is linux - the developers *are* the users.