This is nothign new, anyone that thinks it is - is simply delusional. For the tin-foil hats, NO, it's NOT blanket coverage of the ENTIRE damn planet. Not possible. There are physical limitations on just how much can be collected.
The dictionaries can take raw packets from wherever.
Active Sigint. Australian Law does not prohibit one from messing with foreign communications. I think you might want to check in to post 1980 communications policy for a better picture.
For the first several years working for DSD there was no way in hell they were going to give me root access to anything, my data and home directories could be measured in the tens of gigabytes just to overcome these limitations. That was solaris, unfortunately (in my opinion) to get anywhere near the same functionality (as root access) you'll spend a huge amount of time recompiling applications, tweaking config files to do things that probably nobody ever intended, along with being on your supervisors shit list for blowing out disk space, audit trails, and... well... just because...
As part of DSD's 'Welcome Boeing Contractors Day' they were giving out polygraph tests at gunpoint. (Well, not really gun point, but 'you don't take it, you don't come in on Monday morning - idle threat') After being wired, they start out asking really silly questions - What is your name? - Like they don't KNOW already? They chatted with DSB - those positive vetting weenies. They know everything.
I'd just watched a show on Discovery about how to 'defeat' polygraph! Turns out it more or less is beatable with not too much effort - unfortunately, they know when you are doing this, so you end up at a nice big round-table meeting to 'discuss' where and how you figured out how to defeat it. Unpleasant. Black smear on your record. Suspect. Terrorist. Etc.
I should imagine running an electric current accross ones brain would certainly increase verbosity, though coherency might take a back seat to a drooling babble.
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Someone else has probably already said this...
I don't know if mice are self aware, I'm not even sure if I am for that matter, but if that mass of brain cells were capable of 'learning' to control or react to input, was it conciousness? I don't give a rats about the moral implications - I don't care, I just think this is fascinating - very cool!
Super computers live on the second floor. Xbranch use them probably more than anyone else, so they can kiss my fluffy backside because they wouldn't let me install a flight sim. So can DSD for that matter.
They look like... Boxes. Big boxes. The modern ones must have had some wind tunnel mods 'cause the pipework looks real cool.
I'm guessing - Building M-2-rightside if you are walking toward building N. If you know, you know right! Yes, I know about the basement as well.
Of all the satellite photographs I've seen (most of which are provided from DIO - that's where the imagery guys live - they tell me there are no 'live action' feeds) there are some very impressive infra-red, optical, or radar images. The majority are 'secret' watered down versions of the hi-res stuff.
The infra-red would be of most interest here, since they pretty much have the globe covered full time, not just from LEO's, but also geostationary birds.
A collegue from ADSCS told me once that the infra-red data was provided in 'near-real-time' meaning a delay of 10-30 seconds, though more frequently longer. I doubt that stuff is readily available from South Australia any longer, since the Americans decided to remote it all back home.
Spam created by Australians, for Australians? I've only ever seen one (for a hotel Broome) - It's not hard to pick up the phone and explain to the brain dead spamming company that you've sent off a complaint to the ombudsman, the police, and any other agencies that might have an interest.
A couple of months following, I received an apology (over the phone) and a cheque ($110 AU) for the hassle of deleting their crap from my inbox.
The law does work. Slowly.
I haven't lived in Australia since 2000, so things may have changed since then.
Several years back I was working at the Shoal Bay Receiving Station, just outside of Darwin Australia. A bunch of guys turned up, drilled holes in the airconditioning ducts, (large pipes running around the ceiling - fun to climb on when playing 'the floor is lava'), stuck a camera in and discovered they would be spending the next few months removing huge amounts of the stuff.
They placed several sensors about the building to detect airborn particles, though they were suspiciously quiet about the test results.
I sure hope I never end up dead from it....
Wonder if any other slashdot readers spent time at the bay...:-)
In every respect, you are correct. I find the length of time it takes for sensible resolution to be the real factor behind my annoyance, more so than anything else.
My brain spoke before it thought through the issues.
Dude, you need to open your eyes if you think the church holds no political sway in this world.
Yup, individuals make up a religion, church is populated by humans, I'm not even sure any two of them side by side could interpret their own 'texts' in the same light.
Take a look at the current US administration and the religious undertones that ebb and flow... I don't know or care if it's right or wrong, but it does exist.
I'm living in the Philippines at present, a fairly religious country. (Christian)
From experience, the filipino's I have met cannot mentally seem to comprehend that another religion beyond their own might even exist in the world. Let alone that an individual might choose to actually believe that there is no god at all.
They will talk of ghosts and other nasty evil things like its all common scientific fact that such things are real. It's not at all unusual to find fourth hand accounts of half fish/man beasts that are believed as though seen through ones very own eyes... Sigh... Stupid. (Nobody ever seems to get a photograph, and dna samples are too far beyond the scope)
These tactics seem about as sleezy as the SCO crap.
Makes me want to smake the judges over the head. What is obvious to the majority seems totally ignored by them - managerial blindness or ignorance or something....
I'm posted to the Philippines at the moment, had a non-profit org from a place called Tanay (in a mountainous region) ask for a mobile phone solution - I hand built a discone, since nobody here even knows what an antenna is!:-) and stuck it up on their water tank, worked no problems at all when connected directly to their phones.
They wanted to be able to move around their compound, minus the coaxial cable, so I searched google for something off the shelf (gsm marginal coverage external antenna, repeater - stuff like that) - devices do exist, essentially like those battery powered antennas you stick on your car window, the ones that don't actually do anything more useful than nothing at all.
I got lucky, GLOBE and SMART installed a bunch of new cell sites, so I never had to persue it.
For a while now they've been selling mobile phones that work in essence, like two-way radio. I believe they use the same part of the spectrum as GSM (900 MHz) - I don't any more than that though.
At one or two of the DSD's field sites, they use hand scanners - pretty cool to watch at night - laser light show - in combination with a 4 digit pin number. Amusingly, the pin numbers are not secret, (printed on ID cards), and yes, using your hand with someone elses code 'frequently' works just fine.
I'm not certain about eye scanners, though the current generation of fingerprint scanners will not be used, ever. Article says it all.
Digital safe keypads, they are everywhere, just look for the same 4 digits worn away from frequent useage, guess code combination accordingly:-)
You might want to make that 51 states, Australia included:-)
Yeah, even the DSD creates legislation in standardised legaleese jibberish that facilitates spying domestically. A simple way to sidestep the whole issue is to take DSD's equipment and manpower, then donate it temporarily to... say... ASIO, or the National Crime Authority.
Yes, there are alternatives to microsoft, though here in the Philippines if you 'actually' managed to sell someone a mac, they would bitch because it doesn't have 'windows' on it.
There exists 'only' "Pentium 2 / 3 / 4" and Microsoft Windows. This is a difficult mindset to break. It is the indelable mindset.
The thing you need to remember about organisations like the NSA - (And the defence signals directorate for that matter) is that they are - FOREIGN - intelligence gathering agencies. (There are exceptions, but none are deemed illegal after managerial FUD) This means thier efforts are gathered at obtaining intelligence from overseas, NOT domestically.
In Australia at least, there is no law preventing any citizen from planting a big old sat dish in their back yard, buying a few dozen radyne modems and doing exactly what the DSD does.
Were you to point your sat dish at a communications signal with only one Australian national, things become a little less clear, two Australian nationals and you are not 'legally' allowed to monitor.
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This is nothign new, anyone that thinks it is - is simply delusional. For the tin-foil hats, NO, it's NOT blanket coverage of the ENTIRE damn planet. Not possible. There are physical limitations on just how much can be collected.
The dictionaries can take raw packets from wherever.
Active Sigint. Australian Law does not prohibit one from messing with foreign communications. I think you might want to check in to post 1980 communications policy for a better picture.
I know you're joking, but I'm sure you're also serious :-)
For the first several years working for DSD there was no way in hell they were going to give me root access to anything, my data and home directories could be measured in the tens of gigabytes just to overcome these limitations. That was solaris, unfortunately (in my opinion) to get anywhere near the same functionality (as root access) you'll spend a huge amount of time recompiling applications, tweaking config files to do things that probably nobody ever intended, along with being on your supervisors shit list for blowing out disk space, audit trails, and... well... just because...
Not easy.
As part of DSD's 'Welcome Boeing Contractors Day' they were giving out polygraph tests at gunpoint. (Well, not really gun point, but 'you don't take it, you don't come in on Monday morning - idle threat') After being wired, they start out asking really silly questions - What is your name? - Like they don't KNOW already? They chatted with DSB - those positive vetting weenies. They know everything.
I'd just watched a show on Discovery about how to 'defeat' polygraph! Turns out it more or less is beatable with not too much effort - unfortunately, they know when you are doing this, so you end up at a nice big round-table meeting to 'discuss' where and how you figured out how to defeat it.
Unpleasant. Black smear on your record. Suspect. Terrorist. Etc.
Are you listening DSD - I know you read this!
I should imagine running an electric current accross ones brain would certainly increase verbosity, though coherency might take a back seat to a drooling babble.
Someone else has probably already said this...
I don't know if mice are self aware, I'm not even sure if I am for that matter, but if that mass of brain cells were capable of 'learning' to control or react to input, was it conciousness? I don't give a rats about the moral implications - I don't care, I just think this is fascinating - very cool!
Ooh ooh I know this one, pick me pick me!!!
Super computers live on the second floor. Xbranch use them probably more than anyone else, so they can kiss my fluffy backside because they wouldn't let me install a flight sim. So can DSD for that matter.
They look like... Boxes. Big boxes. The modern ones must have had some wind tunnel mods 'cause the pipework looks real cool.
I'm guessing - Building M-2-rightside if you are walking toward building N. If you know, you know right! Yes, I know about the basement as well.
Tell it to my headache, I've been trying to give it up for the last week. Sigh....
Of all the satellite photographs I've seen (most of which are provided from DIO - that's where the imagery guys live - they tell me there are no 'live action' feeds) there are some very impressive infra-red, optical, or radar images. The majority are 'secret' watered down versions of the hi-res stuff.
The infra-red would be of most interest here, since they pretty much have the globe covered full time, not just from LEO's, but also geostationary birds.
A collegue from ADSCS told me once that the infra-red data was provided in 'near-real-time' meaning a delay of 10-30 seconds, though more frequently longer. I doubt that stuff is readily available from South Australia any longer, since the Americans decided to remote it all back home.
Spam created by Australians, for Australians? I've only ever seen one (for a hotel Broome) - It's not hard to pick up the phone and explain to the brain dead spamming company that you've sent off a complaint to the ombudsman, the police, and any other agencies that might have an interest.
A couple of months following, I received an apology (over the phone) and a cheque ($110 AU) for the hassle of deleting their crap from my inbox.
The law does work. Slowly.
I haven't lived in Australia since 2000, so things may have changed since then.
Several years back I was working at the Shoal Bay Receiving Station, just outside of Darwin Australia. A bunch of guys turned up, drilled holes in the airconditioning ducts, (large pipes running around the ceiling - fun to climb on when playing 'the floor is lava'), stuck a camera in and discovered they would be spending the next few months removing huge amounts of the stuff.
:-)
They placed several sensors about the building to detect airborn particles, though they were suspiciously quiet about the test results.
I sure hope I never end up dead from it....
Wonder if any other slashdot readers spent time at the bay...
The real problem is that joe average user just doesn't give a crap about this either way.
When users complain that something like AVG is just too complicated and 'hard' to install, let alone use, what do you do?
In every respect, you are correct. I find the length of time it takes for sensible resolution to be the real factor behind my annoyance, more so than anything else.
My brain spoke before it thought through the issues.
Dude, you need to open your eyes if you think the church holds no political sway in this world.
Yup, individuals make up a religion, church is populated by humans, I'm not even sure any two of them side by side could interpret their own 'texts' in the same light.
Take a look at the current US administration and the religious undertones that ebb and flow... I don't know or care if it's right or wrong, but it does exist.
Hey, the NSA is funded by taxpayers money, it too should be freely accessable right?
I'm living in the Philippines at present, a fairly religious country. (Christian)
From experience, the filipino's I have met cannot mentally seem to comprehend that another religion beyond their own might even exist in the world. Let alone that an individual might choose to actually believe that there is no god at all.
They will talk of ghosts and other nasty evil things like its all common scientific fact that such things are real. It's not at all unusual to find fourth hand accounts of half fish/man beasts that are believed as though seen through ones very own eyes... Sigh... Stupid. (Nobody ever seems to get a photograph, and dna samples are too far beyond the scope)
These tactics seem about as sleezy as the SCO crap.
Makes me want to smake the judges over the head. What is obvious to the majority seems totally ignored by them - managerial blindness or ignorance or something....
I'm posted to the Philippines at the moment, had a non-profit org from a place called Tanay (in a mountainous region) ask for a mobile phone solution - I hand built a discone, since nobody here even knows what an antenna is! :-) and stuck it up on their water tank, worked no problems at all when connected directly to their phones.
They wanted to be able to move around their compound, minus the coaxial cable, so I searched google for something off the shelf (gsm marginal coverage external antenna, repeater - stuff like that) - devices do exist, essentially like those battery powered antennas you stick on your car window, the ones that don't actually do anything more useful than nothing at all.
I got lucky, GLOBE and SMART installed a bunch of new cell sites, so I never had to persue it.
For a while now they've been selling mobile phones that work in essence, like two-way radio. I believe they use the same part of the spectrum as GSM (900 MHz) - I don't any more than that though.
At one or two of the DSD's field sites, they use hand scanners - pretty cool to watch at night - laser light show - in combination with a 4 digit pin number. Amusingly, the pin numbers are not secret, (printed on ID cards), and yes, using your hand with someone elses code 'frequently' works just fine.
:-)
I'm not certain about eye scanners, though the current generation of fingerprint scanners will not be used, ever. Article says it all.
Digital safe keypads, they are everywhere, just look for the same 4 digits worn away from frequent useage, guess code combination accordingly
You might want to make that 51 states, Australia included :-)
Yeah, even the DSD creates legislation in standardised legaleese jibberish that facilitates spying domestically. A simple way to sidestep the whole issue is to take DSD's equipment and manpower, then donate it temporarily to... say... ASIO, or the National Crime Authority.
You would think 'they' wouldn't know who it was wouldn't you....
Hmmm. Lets see. Cell sites contained in a seemingly ordinary brief case - handy at airports, or your least favorite politicians place of residence...
Voice recognition is not rocket science when you already have the 'prints'
Here at DSD we use the little grey alien bastards to copy down all the HF traffic 'cause, basically, static sucks.
Yes, there are alternatives to microsoft, though here in the Philippines if you 'actually' managed to sell someone a mac, they would bitch because it doesn't have 'windows' on it.
There exists 'only' "Pentium 2 / 3 / 4" and Microsoft Windows. This is a difficult mindset to break. It is the indelable mindset.
The thing you need to remember about organisations like the NSA - (And the defence signals directorate for that matter) is that they are - FOREIGN - intelligence gathering agencies. (There are exceptions, but none are deemed illegal after managerial FUD) This means thier efforts are gathered at obtaining intelligence from overseas, NOT domestically.
In Australia at least, there is no law preventing any citizen from planting a big old sat dish in their back yard, buying a few dozen radyne modems and doing exactly what the DSD does.
Were you to point your sat dish at a communications signal with only one Australian national, things become a little less clear, two Australian nationals and you are not 'legally' allowed to monitor.
I love you DSD...