...for some 30 hours now under Win98SE, without a single crash, with my kaaza and direct connect downloads running and surfing the net and reading mail using Mozilla. But this install seems especially faulty - I need to mess around with M$ apps like Word or Explorer and within 10-15 minutes I get a crash. I've been VERY cautious not to touch them over last days and it works.
... and its peak value depends on the slashdotting site...
I have my website (Don't troll down! That IS my website! Don't visit if you don't like it!) "slashdoted" from time to time, whenever I post the URL to the petlovers forum. (themed board, people may find it offensive!) It drops halfway within a day or so, from 400+ hits/hour, and within a few days I get down to normal flow of 1-3 visitors/hour. But when I posted my URL to the story board (same notice as above) it got maybe 200 visitors after submitting, but then the dropoff lasted weeks. Half-life of the dropoff was about one week later.
Stats (finally no zoophilic references) here Look at the monthly graphs. (blue ones) and at the last yearly graph which shows the "normal flux" dropdown as the site "expires from people bookmarks" and gets generally forgotten in matter of months.
projects smaller than "large" usually consist of one-three maintainers, some 3-4 "minor contributors" who supply hints, bug reports, small handy hacks and good ideas on irregular basis, several "fans" who look for updates, sometimes report bugs or help newcomers by answering questions, and besides that, small, regular flux of visitors who come, maybe ask a question or two, look, eventually download and go usually without ever saying thank you. I've seen that with several projects I participated in, as such "fan" or "minor contributor". From time to time some fan or minor contributor leaves, sometimes a new one finds it and stays. If the maintainer leaves the project though, it dies quite quickly, unless someone else decides to take over and continue the work. That doesn't happen often though.
Look at this from positive side. 1) 40 visitors a day, means maybe 1-4 new sites using your software. 2) No bug reports - probably no bugs so that's very good, isn't it?:) 3) No suggestions, ideas, patches - probably the design is so good that nobody feels need for these.
(of course it could be opposite, after first look people discard it and never think about it again, but...:)
One of good ideas to "exist" on the market is to package your stuff for some major distributions and try to include it - even if not in core of one, then at least in official software archives. So crazy people like me, who look through all packages dselect displays get to notice it:)
Morpheus was considered a dangerous terrorist, wasn't he? And the legal status of the agents (as "citizens" of the world simulated by The Matrix) was something like CIA or FBI, wasn't it?
Wake up, neo! The MATRIX has you! We should feel obligated to oppose it!
What about making it shout "GNAA RULEZ!!!" "Hey, gimme a mare!" "SC0 OWNZ L1NUX!" "BSD IS DEAD" "You are fags, nerds!"... Would you consider THAT evil?;) (have I missed something important)
Naaah. Just Conan the Barbarian. Crom was that cute deity Conan believed in. "Don't pray to Cron because if he sees you praying, he will find you weak and you may be punished for your weakness."
Nope, we won't slashdot Yahoo. But we may slashdot their rating system:)
There's that "Rate This Message" on the bottom. Just everyone pick "5" and the news will make to the "highest rated" and possibly to top headlines of Yahoo news.
...send a webbrowser to Mars? Plus now it's called "firebird", not phoenix...
Re:There's one good thing about it.
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You should stick to a coding style anyway true. Enforced readability through the language is good. false.
I often find myself writing some C or Perl piece that if I follow general rules of indentation and generally obey the standard, I'll made that thing unreadable. Like, I have a 3-line-long boolean statement in if() (not even very complex but using lonv variable names) or add some "inline" error exception code like "...or die()" that's unrelated to the logical structure and shouldn't be indented.
Sticking to a code style is generally a good advice. But it shouldn't be LAW because indentation is meant to help understand the program by exposing important stuff, and hiding the less important and author of the language simply can't predict beforehand what we write will or will not be important and it's up to the programmer to follow the rules when they are wise and to BREAK THEM when they contradict the logic of the program being written and stand in way of better, more readable code.
Re:I think I know the problem
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err, slashdot is written in Perl:) So..... was it written in some pre-1.0 version?;)
Many people are afraid to switch to Free Software because there is that "No warranty as this is free" thing, and that point is used quite often. You can complain to user support at commercial company and they MUST respect your complains or you can get them in deep trouble. Within Free Software community you may only expect replies like this: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94035# c153
(sorry, links to bugzilla from slashdot are disabled)
Ask that Lindows guy... Oh, you can't, he's been on Ask Slashdot recently and won't be here anytime soon, busy donating cash to Mozdev or funding some other Xbox Linux prize.
I wonder about this too. Since I released that halter tying manual that should be SO simple that nobody should be able to screw up, I got my first customer asking me to make one for her within first 15 minutes.
People are often too lazy to download and burn a CD, they want a "hard copy from reliable source", they may want a paper manual... or they are too used to buying software to actually understand the idea they can get it for free...
(not counting these who consider this a way to contribute or express gratitude to the open source community)
Re:Some things to point out.
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> Forbidden > You don't have permission to access/drewt/tgz/perl-1.0_15.tar.gz on this server.
"Imagine that someone had spent two years writing a book. It would not be fair to let someone else make their own copies of the book and sell or give these copies to others without paying the writer. And unless the writer was very wealthy, she probably could not afford to spend so much time writing unless she could get paid for her work. In fact, very few people would ever create books (or movies, or songs, or paintings) if they could not earn a living from their work. If everyone copied the book and sold them or gave copies to others without paying for it, it would be hard for the writer to earn a living from writing, and ultimately that would mean there would be fewer creative works for us to enjoy."
What a piece of crap. So what about libraries, where you can borrow the book and read it for free? What about all that stuff like Project Gutenberg? What about millions of people who make a living by other means and spend years writing books as their hobby?
I just released a webpage. I spent 3 days on it, with breaks for sleep and food. It's a detailed instruction how to make a rope halter, best kind of halter/bridle for a horse ever. The page is available for free. The instructions are very foolproof, everyone should be able to follow them. The halters are available on sale for $30 or so. I'm definitely NOT a wealthy person - but I don't ask for money for accessing my page. I decided this thing is good for horses and it would be good if people used it instead of different cruel stuff they use, for free. I put a small notice at the bottom - "if despite these instructions you can't make that halter, email me and I'll make one for you for quite low price."
That's about it. Information can be free. I may be paid for work I put in things. Not for allowing someone to own them, while I lose nothing. I spent 3 days for making myself feel better - for making life of hopefuly several hundreds horses slightly better. Now if I sacrifice a hour of my time to make one of such halters and mail it to whoever is too rich, lazy or all-thumbs to make one themselves - I may charge them for my time and effort.
Copyright? Doh, if someone else starts making that halters and selling them, using my instructions, I'd be happy! Because I did it for certain idea. Not for money. But that's far beyond imagination of small brains of MPAA employees.
How I -imagine- it could be done (though no warranty) - take a piece of rather thic copper wire, ground it really well (I think the railway track is sufficient) and then toss the other end over the line. Should just burn the breakers.
*grin* And what about Poland where railway line power wires are stolen? People are less pissed off with the thieves than stunned how they manage to steal a kilometer of powered with 3000V wire.
At least in respect to that story I'm talking about. Lem was VERY satirical in it and calling that imaginary country he described "banana republic" is about the mildest thing that can be done:) Just to mention crocodiles being an important part of official divorce and government changes at least twice a month:)
Slashdot Mirror
That's a fake plastic fish aquarium! Now show me a REAL one and it might be interesting...
...for some 30 hours now under Win98SE, without a single crash, with my kaaza and direct connect downloads running and surfing the net and reading mail using Mozilla. But this install seems especially faulty - I need to mess around with M$ apps like Word or Explorer and within 10-15 minutes I get a crash. I've been VERY cautious not to touch them over last days and it works.
... and its peak value depends on the slashdotting site...
I have my website (Don't troll down! That IS my website! Don't visit if you don't like it!) "slashdoted" from time to time, whenever I post the URL to the petlovers forum. (themed board, people may find it offensive!) It drops halfway within a day or so, from 400+ hits/hour, and within a few days I get down to normal flow of 1-3 visitors/hour. But when I posted my URL to the story board (same notice as above) it got maybe 200 visitors after submitting, but then the dropoff lasted weeks. Half-life of the dropoff was about one week later.
Stats (finally no zoophilic references) here
Look at the monthly graphs. (blue ones) and at the last yearly graph which shows the "normal flux" dropdown as the site "expires from people bookmarks" and gets generally forgotten in matter of months.
...or arbitrary frags number?
Now SCO wants to sue Linux users. RedHat sues SCO. SCO sues IBM. IBM sues SCO. Somewhere underway Novell is included...
:)
So - when will Microsoft kick in and sue someone involved - and if so, whom?
Duct tape and rain don't mix.
projects smaller than "large" usually consist of one-three maintainers, some 3-4 "minor contributors" who supply hints, bug reports, small handy hacks and good ideas on irregular basis, several "fans" who look for updates, sometimes report bugs or help newcomers by answering questions, and besides that, small, regular flux of visitors who come, maybe ask a question or two, look, eventually download and go usually without ever saying thank you. I've seen that with several projects I participated in, as such "fan" or "minor contributor". From time to time some fan or minor contributor leaves, sometimes a new one finds it and stays. If the maintainer leaves the project though, it dies quite quickly, unless someone else decides to take over and continue the work. That doesn't happen often though.
:) 3) No suggestions, ideas, patches - probably the design is so good that nobody feels need for these.
:)
:)
Look at this from positive side. 1) 40 visitors a day, means maybe 1-4 new sites using your software. 2) No bug reports - probably no bugs so that's very good, isn't it?
(of course it could be opposite, after first look people discard it and never think about it again, but...
One of good ideas to "exist" on the market is to package your stuff for some major distributions and try to include it - even if not in core of one, then at least in official software archives. So crazy people like me, who look through all packages dselect displays get to notice it
Morpheus was considered a dangerous terrorist, wasn't he?
And the legal status of the agents (as "citizens" of the world simulated by The Matrix) was something like CIA or FBI, wasn't it?
Wake up, neo! The MATRIX has you!
We should feel obligated to oppose it!
One of the 3 in terrorism. Now the real question is WHICH one?!
What about making it shout "GNAA RULEZ!!!" "Hey, gimme a mare!" "SC0 OWNZ L1NUX!" "BSD IS DEAD" "You are fags, nerds!"... Would you consider THAT evil? ;)
(have I missed something important)
Naaah. Just Conan the Barbarian.
Crom was that cute deity Conan believed in. "Don't pray to Cron because if he sees you praying, he will find you weak and you may be punished for your weakness."
Nope, we won't slashdot Yahoo. But we may slashdot their rating system :)
There's that "Rate This Message" on the bottom. Just everyone pick "5" and the news will make to the "highest rated" and possibly to top headlines of Yahoo news.
...send a webbrowser to Mars? Plus now it's called "firebird", not phoenix...
You should stick to a coding style anyway
true.
Enforced readability through the language is good.
false.
I often find myself writing some C or Perl piece that if I follow general rules of indentation and generally obey the standard, I'll made that thing unreadable. Like, I have a 3-line-long boolean statement in if() (not even very complex but using lonv variable names) or add some "inline" error exception code like "...or die()" that's unrelated to the logical structure and shouldn't be indented.
Sticking to a code style is generally a good advice. But it shouldn't be LAW because indentation is meant to help understand the program by exposing important stuff, and hiding the less important and author of the language simply can't predict beforehand what we write will or will not be important and it's up to the programmer to follow the rules when they are wise and to BREAK THEM when they contradict the logic of the program being written and stand in way of better, more readable code.
err, slashdot is written in Perl :) So..... was it written in some pre-1.0 version? ;)
Many people are afraid to switch to Free Software because there is that "No warranty as this is free" thing, and that point is used quite often.# c153
You can complain to user support at commercial company and they MUST respect your complains or you can get them in deep trouble. Within Free Software community you may only expect replies like this: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94035
(sorry, links to bugzilla from slashdot are disabled)
Ask that Lindows guy... Oh, you can't, he's been on Ask Slashdot recently and won't be here anytime soon, busy donating cash to Mozdev or funding some other Xbox Linux prize.
I wonder about this too. Since I released that halter tying manual that should be SO simple that nobody should be able to screw up, I got my first customer asking me to make one for her within first 15 minutes.
People are often too lazy to download and burn a CD, they want a "hard copy from reliable source", they may want a paper manual... or they are too used to buying software to actually understand the idea they can get it for free...
(not counting these who consider this a way to contribute or express gratitude to the open source community)
> Forbidden /drewt/tgz/perl-1.0_15.tar.gz on this server.
> You don't have permission to access
Could you fix please?
"Imagine that someone had spent two years writing a book. It would not be fair to let someone else make their own copies of the book and sell or give these copies to others without paying the writer. And unless the writer was very wealthy, she probably could not afford to spend so much time writing unless she could get paid for her work. In fact, very few people would ever create books (or movies, or songs, or paintings) if they could not earn a living from their work. If everyone copied the book and sold them or gave copies to others without paying for it, it would be hard for the writer to earn a living from writing, and ultimately that would mean there would be fewer creative works for us to enjoy."
What a piece of crap. So what about libraries, where you can borrow the book and read it for free? What about all that stuff like Project Gutenberg? What about millions of people who make a living by other means and spend years writing books as their hobby?
I just released a webpage. I spent 3 days on it, with breaks for sleep and food. It's a detailed instruction how to make a rope halter, best kind of halter/bridle for a horse ever. The page is available for free. The instructions are very foolproof, everyone should be able to follow them. The halters are available on sale for $30 or so. I'm definitely NOT a wealthy person - but I don't ask for money for accessing my page. I decided this thing is good for horses and it would be good if people used it instead of different cruel stuff they use, for free. I put a small notice at the bottom - "if despite these instructions you can't make that halter, email me and I'll make one for you for quite low price."
That's about it. Information can be free. I may be paid for work I put in things. Not for allowing someone to own them, while I lose nothing. I spent 3 days for making myself feel better - for making life of hopefuly several hundreds horses slightly better. Now if I sacrifice a hour of my time to make one of such halters and mail it to whoever is too rich, lazy or all-thumbs to make one themselves - I may charge them for my time and effort.
Copyright? Doh, if someone else starts making that halters and selling them, using my instructions, I'd be happy! Because I did it for certain idea. Not for money. But that's far beyond imagination of small brains of MPAA employees.
Let's slashdot bastards!
(I'm not trolling, I'm serious!)
How I -imagine- it could be done (though no warranty) - take a piece of rather thic copper wire, ground it really well (I think the railway track is sufficient) and then toss the other end over the line. Should just burn the breakers.
railway - not. But there was a guy who died by normal power lines.
*grin* And what about Poland where railway line power wires are stolen? People are less pissed off with the thieves than stunned how they manage to steal a kilometer of powered with 3000V wire.
At least in respect to that story I'm talking about. :) :)
Lem was VERY satirical in it and calling that imaginary country he described "banana republic" is about the mildest thing that can be done
Just to mention crocodiles being an important part of official divorce and government changes at least twice a month