Haven't tried turkey yet. I s'pose I could buy some turkey cold cuts to test that out.
The testing can be the worst part of all. Everytime I drink a Gloria Jeans iced chocolate, I get violently, violently ill inside of an hour. I've never been able to nail down what the active ingredient is that does it, but there is nothing quite as unnerving as raising the glass to your lips when you already know that it's going to be utterly excruciating, but you need one more data point to be absolutely sure.
Good luck with the Turkey. It would suck to be cut off from that.
Organic food is quite cheap in my neighborhood. I'm not going to wade in as to whether food grown under organic conditions tastes better, but I will say that food grown relatively locally and hence served fresh has always tasted better to me, and this local / hand-produced ethos tends to go hand-in-hand where I come from with organic food.
I've seen organic and non-organic foodstuffs from both sides of the restaurant counter, and I certainly know what I prefer to eat when it comes to fruit and vegetables ( no real opinion on meats, and I prefer my milk and dairy pasteurised to hell and back ).
I dunno if I'd call it "stupid". I work in Healthcare ( respiratory as well, but mostly dealing with sleep medicine instead of allergies ), and people think they understand their bodies pretty well. I mean, they're around them practically all the time, so they sort of consider themselves to be an authority on the subject.
People form a speculative hypothesis on what might be causing their problems, and then their everyday experiences are subtly edited by memory to fit and reinforce these ideas. Not everyone has the understanding of proper eliminative testing, or the discipline, to correctly figure out their problem, or at least some kind of ameliorating behavior, unlike that chicken-dude who's floating around in this thread somewhere. This isn't just a medical problem - people do this in all facets of their lives.
Don't be too harsh on these folks. Nobody likes to feel sick, and even less to not understand what's happening to their body. Reaching out for a hypothesis that they can understand is natural in this situation - it's the job of healthcare professionals to reach through this barrier of uncertainty and provide correct diagnosis and treatment.
It's a conflict of interest that consistently leads to abuses.
Maybe, but this doesn't mean it's the best way to make money in these circumstances.
Some of us like to code. And we like to see our software popular, out in the wild. But we want to eat as well, pay our rent on time, etc etc. I used to be like this, before I burnt out on software engineering.
It is nice, and gratifying, when a company wants to give you some money in exchange for something nifty you wrote.
A few years ago, a piece of software I wrote with some other people ( I won't mention the name, but it was popular with some Fluxbox users ) attracted the attention of a company who wanted to use it in a closed, handheld computing setting. I was happy to relicense my contributions to the project maintainer so that he could make a few dollars off it, and I was happy to see my creation having a possibility of a wider release. It didn't cost me anything except for time I had already given freely. I'm not sure if their project ever came to fruition.
Now, your post decries this kind of action as a conflict of interest, but it did nothing to invalidate the free arm of the software - which continued to grow, change hands, have developers switch in and out. I can't see what the problem is.
The problem is, all this stuff gets sold on again and again. People will pay for the "noise" as well - by the time anyone figures out its bogus data, it's probably been mixed, churned and remixed and the original source lost to history.
Hence, unable to pinpoint the bad source, people will probably keep sending money to the party you're flooding. The money is not in selling products to the gullible, although there is money to be made there. The money is in the pyramid style organisation of the industry.
I'll give you my reading, because the other followup didn't catch all your questions:
You are welcome to license your new versions or the same version under licenses other than the GPL, because the GPL is non-exclusive. You can re-license the original code to yourself, if you feel like getting that far into it, under any license you like. What you cannot do is revoke the GPL rights on copies already distributed. This parallel licensing, where projects are released under the GPL and then sublicensed to private entities under non free licenses in exchange for bling is probably ( imho ) the best way to make money on a free software project.
What makes the NAS's report so much better than Koreas? Are the International Archives of Occupational and Environmental Health not peer reviewed or something?
I hope you're not making the mistake of conflating a big name at the top of the paper with its validity. Science is about being open to new ideas, let's not slam the paper on the grounds of dogma without at least reviewing what it has to say.
Ah, thanks. With that link I can see that the "keyboard" is in fact a Belkin Nostromo game"pad". Australian slashdotters might be interested to know that older revisions of this thing ( bundled with a mouse ) occasionally turn up in Electronics Boutiques across the country marked down at a very, very low price. ( A$45? )
There's been several times when I've considered picking one up to turn into a chordboard, but when I weigh up the extra clutter on my desk from yet another input device, the time to train up the other computer users with it, let alone writing the driver, I've never been able to bring myself to buy one.
Living in a pro-liberal area is not such a bad thing. Buy yourself some spray paint and graffiti the whole damned place.
Imbecile. I'm hardly pro-Liberal by any stretch of the imagination, but has it occured to you that the walls and other objects you deface, on the balance of probability, most likely don't belong to John Howard?
You won't sway public opinion in your favour by annoying the hell out of people - you'll just harden them against you. I'm pro-graffiti, but let's see some art on the walls, not another crudely sprayed inane slogan like the priceless "Gollum Howard" screed in Mascot.
We have a political process in this country to make your voice heard - it doesn't include defacing the private property of innocent bystanders. You wouldn't like it if I came and sprayed dollar signs all over your house or Centerlink, so extend the same courtesy to others.
My thoughts are about smashing protons and neutrons into one material and it would eventually become other materials by virtue of having been force-fed nucleic particles.
The bigger problem here is that lead is atomic number 82, and gold is atomic number 79 - you need to get the lead to yield up 3 protons - this is going to require an awful large amount of energy.
Some people claim to have pulled it off, however:
There are reports that Glenn Seaborg, 1951 Nobel Laureate in Chemistry, succeeded in transmuting a minute quantity of lead (possibly en route from bismuth, in 1980) into gold. There is an earlier report (1972) in which Soviet physicists at a nuclear research facility near Lake Baikal in Siberia accidentally discovered a reaction for turning lead into gold when they found the lead shielding of an experimental reactor had changed to gold. -- http://chemistry.about.com/cs/generalchemistry/a/a a050601a.htm
These are not chemical reactions though, which have always been the traditional target of the alchemists.
They are, indeed, built to last, something that bothers me about some of the more precious pieces of my collection that I kept after the last round of cleanups.
To illustrate, in our living room my flatmate and I have an XBox, an N64, a Gamecube and a NES hooked up. The NES is still rock solid functional after all these years - it doesn't glitch, overheat, and the controllers are still responsive and sturdy, despite years of abuse.
On the other hand, neatly packed in my cupboard is my Dreamcast - which would not be a tenth as old as the NES, but twice already in its lifetime I've had to open it up and readjust the contacts between the mainboard and the transformer because the pins have drifted away from their contact patches ( DC veterans will know what I'm talking about here. )
I might only take it off the shelf to play Soulcalibur or whatever once or twice a year, but I really want it to work when I do - because that's why I let it have some precious shelf space in my bedroom. I wish everyone else was building their gear as sturdily as Nintendo does/did.
You know, I had a Lynx - one of the large, first generation ones, and I found it a good system, with enough good games to keep me busy ( was I the only person who liked Electrocop? ). Everyone holds up CalGames as the beginning and end of Lynx gaming, but what I don't think they realise is because this version of CalGames was really, really, really good.
I've played CG on pretty much every platform going, and the Lynx version beats the hell out of all the others. But just because CG was so good doesn't mean their ports of Gauntlet, Rampage and stuff like Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure ( even if I could never finish it ) weren't also fun and engrossing. Maybe I was just young and easily amused.
You want to read the 1998 Amendments to the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 - section 329A has been nuked - this was the one that makes it unlawful to advocate the marking of a ballot other than in accordance with section 240 ( full preferential voting ).
'The Act has amended the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 so that, while it is no longer an offence to encourage a 'Langer-style' vote (e.g.1,2,3,3,3... etc), such votes for the House of Representatives will no longer be counted as formal votes.
Anyone advocating that electors vote in this manner will be encouraging electors to waste their votes entirely.'
Is that the same Socialist Alliance that have posters up in Newtown saying we should be supporting the Iraqi Resistance against the Americans?
That is to say, a violent, religious backed resistance? Way to go, Socialists. And don't even get me started on holding up Cuba as an ideal social model. Hope you like spending time in Jail for having a dissenting political opinion.
A long time ago, back at University, I used to run with a group that was affiliated with the SA myself. I gave it up when I realised they were more interested in making all their associates think from one, totally homogenous worldview, instead of encouraging their members to think for themselves - it's assumed that having supported one SA position, you'll support them all. No thanks.
Jesus Christ on an electric moped, it's not a Seinfeld quote, it's not a quote from some fictional movie, the line "The dingo's got my baby!" and the movie it was drawn from ( "A Cry in the Dark", iirc ) were based around a real case - that of Lindy Chamberlain.
This case was a total societal clusterfuck here in Australia. Half of the population believed in her story, and the other half thought she was full of it. Lindy ended up being found guilty of murder, and locked away for four years - after which her conviction was overturned ( and many people are still not convinced ).
To give you an idea of just how deeply this event has graved itself into the national psyche, I was four months old when it happened, and even I can tell you the name of the baby in question ( Azaria ). I guess the closest comparison Americans could make would be the kidnapping of the Lindbergh baby, although even that's not a real good fit.
I agree with the TRPG point here ( also made by a few other posters ) - these games are complex enough to be engrossing, but you can snap through a level and then turn them off, so there's no huge commitment in time.
I don't play many games on the computer these days, although I seem to keep buying them ( because I'm an idiot ) - the ones I keep coming back to are ones I can turn off at a moments notice, and go away from for days or weeks at a time, or just leave them running in a detached screen: things like Angband, Final Fantasy Tactics, Advance Wars II and boardgames like Scrabble.
Perhaps my use of the word "wretchedly" was inappropriate - it's coloured by my perceptions about dying in a state suffering from extreme dementia where the only way you can communicate with the people is by blinking your eyes. Woody, apparently, didn't see it the same way - several biographies of him list one of his last "utterances" as a signalled "Yes" to the question over whether he wanted to go on living after all he'd been through. It is not an impugnment of the Brooklyn State Hospital.
This is what happens when artists sell the rights to their work for a buck or two. Got a problem with the RIAA, MPAA etc, talk to the stupid artists who are having caviar dreams and champagne wishes.
Insolence. The original copyright notice attached to This Land is Your Land ( and several other Guthries, iirc ) reads as follows:
"This song is Copyrighted in U.S., under Seal of Copyright # 154085, for a period of 28 years, and anybody caught singin' it without our permission, will be mighty good friends of ourn, cause we don't give a dern. Publish it. Write it. Sing it. Swing to it. Yodel it. We wrote it, that's all we wanted to do."
Your bullshit about caviar dreams and champagne wishes is poorly placed against a man who loved his fellow americans, loved the free flow of information, mailed lyrics booklets to his listeners and invited them to sing his songs, and died wretchedly in a state hospital of an irreversible degenerative nerve disorder. Learn your history.
More to the point, it seems like a total waste of time. The limiting factor on my ability to perform work on the computer is very seldom the actual interface between my mind and the software. I spend more time comprehending text than I do reading it, and I spend more time thinking about the next statement or function call than I do typing it in ( which is admittedly not very much time at all ). People seem to have this idea that neural interfaces will allow them to, for example, instantly back-form memories, or learn huge amounts ( Kung Fu? ) in no time at all. That's not what's being discussed here.
For people with disabilities, I can see this being very valuble tech. But I won't be shaving my beautiful hair for contact patches anytime soon.
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YLFIThe testing can be the worst part of all. Everytime I drink a Gloria Jeans iced chocolate, I get violently, violently ill inside of an hour. I've never been able to nail down what the active ingredient is that does it, but there is nothing quite as unnerving as raising the glass to your lips when you already know that it's going to be utterly excruciating, but you need one more data point to be absolutely sure.
Good luck with the Turkey. It would suck to be cut off from that.
YLFIOrganic food is quite cheap in my neighborhood. I'm not going to wade in as to whether food grown under organic conditions tastes better, but I will say that food grown relatively locally and hence served fresh has always tasted better to me, and this local / hand-produced ethos tends to go hand-in-hand where I come from with organic food.
I've seen organic and non-organic foodstuffs from both sides of the restaurant counter, and I certainly know what I prefer to eat when it comes to fruit and vegetables ( no real opinion on meats, and I prefer my milk and dairy pasteurised to hell and back ).
YLFIWouldn't eating organic food improve their resistance to bacteria / fungal spores etc, instead of overprocessed factory food?
I dunno if I'd call it "stupid". I work in Healthcare ( respiratory as well, but mostly dealing with sleep medicine instead of allergies ), and people think they understand their bodies pretty well. I mean, they're around them practically all the time, so they sort of consider themselves to be an authority on the subject.
People form a speculative hypothesis on what might be causing their problems, and then their everyday experiences are subtly edited by memory to fit and reinforce these ideas. Not everyone has the understanding of proper eliminative testing, or the discipline, to correctly figure out their problem, or at least some kind of ameliorating behavior, unlike that chicken-dude who's floating around in this thread somewhere. This isn't just a medical problem - people do this in all facets of their lives.
Don't be too harsh on these folks. Nobody likes to feel sick, and even less to not understand what's happening to their body. Reaching out for a hypothesis that they can understand is natural in this situation - it's the job of healthcare professionals to reach through this barrier of uncertainty and provide correct diagnosis and treatment.
YLFIHalf-Hearted? Do you remember how ga-ga the gaming press went at the visuals when HL1 was released? Frailty, thy name is the gaming press.
YLFIMaybe, but this doesn't mean it's the best way to make money in these circumstances.
Some of us like to code. And we like to see our software popular, out in the wild. But we want to eat as well, pay our rent on time, etc etc. I used to be like this, before I burnt out on software engineering.
It is nice, and gratifying, when a company wants to give you some money in exchange for something nifty you wrote.
A few years ago, a piece of software I wrote with some other people ( I won't mention the name, but it was popular with some Fluxbox users ) attracted the attention of a company who wanted to use it in a closed, handheld computing setting. I was happy to relicense my contributions to the project maintainer so that he could make a few dollars off it, and I was happy to see my creation having a possibility of a wider release. It didn't cost me anything except for time I had already given freely. I'm not sure if their project ever came to fruition.
Now, your post decries this kind of action as a conflict of interest, but it did nothing to invalidate the free arm of the software - which continued to grow, change hands, have developers switch in and out. I can't see what the problem is.
YLFIThe problem is, all this stuff gets sold on again and again. People will pay for the "noise" as well - by the time anyone figures out its bogus data, it's probably been mixed, churned and remixed and the original source lost to history.
Hence, unable to pinpoint the bad source, people will probably keep sending money to the party you're flooding. The money is not in selling products to the gullible, although there is money to be made there. The money is in the pyramid style organisation of the industry.
YLFIWell, that's it decided then. Who could pass up a slashdot headline like "Fusion power harnessed... In Japan! ".
I'll give you my reading, because the other followup didn't catch all your questions:
You are welcome to license your new versions or the same version under licenses other than the GPL, because the GPL is non-exclusive. You can re-license the original code to yourself, if you feel like getting that far into it, under any license you like. What you cannot do is revoke the GPL rights on copies already distributed. This parallel licensing, where projects are released under the GPL and then sublicensed to private entities under non free licenses in exchange for bling is probably ( imho ) the best way to make money on a free software project.
Anyone else have a better grasp of the issues?
YLFIWhat makes the NAS's report so much better than Koreas? Are the International Archives of Occupational and Environmental Health not peer reviewed or something?
I hope you're not making the mistake of conflating a big name at the top of the paper with its validity. Science is about being open to new ideas, let's not slam the paper on the grounds of dogma without at least reviewing what it has to say.
Ah, thanks. With that link I can see that the "keyboard" is in fact a Belkin Nostromo game"pad". Australian slashdotters might be interested to know that older revisions of this thing ( bundled with a mouse ) occasionally turn up in Electronics Boutiques across the country marked down at a very, very low price. ( A$45? )
There's been several times when I've considered picking one up to turn into a chordboard, but when I weigh up the extra clutter on my desk from yet another input device, the time to train up the other computer users with it, let alone writing the driver, I've never been able to bring myself to buy one.
Imbecile. I'm hardly pro-Liberal by any stretch of the imagination, but has it occured to you that the walls and other objects you deface, on the balance of probability, most likely don't belong to John Howard?
You won't sway public opinion in your favour by annoying the hell out of people - you'll just harden them against you. I'm pro-graffiti, but let's see some art on the walls, not another crudely sprayed inane slogan like the priceless "Gollum Howard" screed in Mascot.
We have a political process in this country to make your voice heard - it doesn't include defacing the private property of innocent bystanders. You wouldn't like it if I came and sprayed dollar signs all over your house or Centerlink, so extend the same courtesy to others.
YLFISome days the jokes just write themselves.
The bigger problem here is that lead is atomic number 82, and gold is atomic number 79 - you need to get the lead to yield up 3 protons - this is going to require an awful large amount of energy.
Some people claim to have pulled it off, however:
These are not chemical reactions though, which have always been the traditional target of the alchemists.
They are, indeed, built to last, something that bothers me about some of the more precious pieces of my collection that I kept after the last round of cleanups.
To illustrate, in our living room my flatmate and I have an XBox, an N64, a Gamecube and a NES hooked up. The NES is still rock solid functional after all these years - it doesn't glitch, overheat, and the controllers are still responsive and sturdy, despite years of abuse.
On the other hand, neatly packed in my cupboard is my Dreamcast - which would not be a tenth as old as the NES, but twice already in its lifetime I've had to open it up and readjust the contacts between the mainboard and the transformer because the pins have drifted away from their contact patches ( DC veterans will know what I'm talking about here. )
I might only take it off the shelf to play Soulcalibur or whatever once or twice a year, but I really want it to work when I do - because that's why I let it have some precious shelf space in my bedroom. I wish everyone else was building their gear as sturdily as Nintendo does/did.
You know, I had a Lynx - one of the large, first generation ones, and I found it a good system, with enough good games to keep me busy ( was I the only person who liked Electrocop? ). Everyone holds up CalGames as the beginning and end of Lynx gaming, but what I don't think they realise is because this version of CalGames was really, really, really good.
I've played CG on pretty much every platform going, and the Lynx version beats the hell out of all the others. But just because CG was so good doesn't mean their ports of Gauntlet, Rampage and stuff like Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure ( even if I could never finish it ) weren't also fun and engrossing. Maybe I was just young and easily amused.
G'day.
You want to read the 1998 Amendments to the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 - section 329A has been nuked - this was the one that makes it unlawful to advocate the marking of a ballot other than in accordance with section 240 ( full preferential voting ).
'The Act has amended the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 so that, while it is no longer an offence to encourage a 'Langer-style' vote (e.g.1,2,3,3,3... etc), such votes for the House of Representatives will no longer be counted as formal votes.
Anyone advocating that electors vote in this manner will be encouraging electors to waste their votes entirely.'
Hope this helps,
YLFI
Is that the same Socialist Alliance that have posters up in Newtown saying we should be supporting the Iraqi Resistance against the Americans?
That is to say, a violent, religious backed resistance? Way to go, Socialists. And don't even get me started on holding up Cuba as an ideal social model. Hope you like spending time in Jail for having a dissenting political opinion.
A long time ago, back at University, I used to run with a group that was affiliated with the SA myself. I gave it up when I realised they were more interested in making all their associates think from one, totally homogenous worldview, instead of encouraging their members to think for themselves - it's assumed that having supported one SA position, you'll support them all. No thanks.
YLFIJesus Christ on an electric moped, it's not a Seinfeld quote, it's not a quote from some fictional movie, the line "The dingo's got my baby!" and the movie it was drawn from ( "A Cry in the Dark", iirc ) were based around a real case - that of Lindy Chamberlain.
This case was a total societal clusterfuck here in Australia. Half of the population believed in her story, and the other half thought she was full of it. Lindy ended up being found guilty of murder, and locked away for four years - after which her conviction was overturned ( and many people are still not convinced ).
To give you an idea of just how deeply this event has graved itself into the national psyche, I was four months old when it happened, and even I can tell you the name of the baby in question ( Azaria ). I guess the closest comparison Americans could make would be the kidnapping of the Lindbergh baby, although even that's not a real good fit.
It's not really that funny! Bleah!
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I agree with the TRPG point here ( also made by a few other posters ) - these games are complex enough to be engrossing, but you can snap through a level and then turn them off, so there's no huge commitment in time.
I don't play many games on the computer these days, although I seem to keep buying them ( because I'm an idiot ) - the ones I keep coming back to are ones I can turn off at a moments notice, and go away from for days or weeks at a time, or just leave them running in a detached screen: things like Angband, Final Fantasy Tactics, Advance Wars II and boardgames like Scrabble.
Perhaps my use of the word "wretchedly" was inappropriate - it's coloured by my perceptions about dying in a state suffering from extreme dementia where the only way you can communicate with the people is by blinking your eyes. Woody, apparently, didn't see it the same way - several biographies of him list one of his last "utterances" as a signalled "Yes" to the question over whether he wanted to go on living after all he'd been through. It is not an impugnment of the Brooklyn State Hospital.
YLFIInsolence. The original copyright notice attached to This Land is Your Land ( and several other Guthries, iirc ) reads as follows:
"This song is Copyrighted in U.S., under Seal of Copyright # 154085, for a period of 28 years, and anybody caught singin' it without our permission, will be mighty good friends of ourn, cause we don't give a dern. Publish it. Write it. Sing it. Swing to it. Yodel it. We wrote it, that's all we wanted to do."
Your bullshit about caviar dreams and champagne wishes is poorly placed against a man who loved his fellow americans, loved the free flow of information, mailed lyrics booklets to his listeners and invited them to sing his songs, and died wretchedly in a state hospital of an irreversible degenerative nerve disorder. Learn your history.
More to the point, it seems like a total waste of time. The limiting factor on my ability to perform work on the computer is very seldom the actual interface between my mind and the software. I spend more time comprehending text than I do reading it, and I spend more time thinking about the next statement or function call than I do typing it in ( which is admittedly not very much time at all ). People seem to have this idea that neural interfaces will allow them to, for example, instantly back-form memories, or learn huge amounts ( Kung Fu? ) in no time at all. That's not what's being discussed here.
For people with disabilities, I can see this being very valuble tech. But I won't be shaving my beautiful hair for contact patches anytime soon.