Oddly enough my nephew, a recovering addict, used to continually complain about the police stopping and searching him for no reason. Which often ended up with them finding something. Which stopped once he got off the drugs and started acting normal. And by normal I mean not looking and acting like a homeless guy sufferring from PTSD and yelling at everyone.
The fact that you don't consider 30K to be expensive says a lot about you. Because to me, that's a freakin' boatload! Which says a lot about me, too...
Jesus, you've got it in for the Americans, don't you? What is is with you (insert nationality here) and all your multiple exclamation points?! And what does Shirley have to do with this discussion?
I live in California, and haven't seen any Romney stickers. But the Obama stickers are ALWAYS on a Prius. Except for the one I saw on a pickup truck. that one stood out.
Speaking slightly offtopic, but a few years ago, when I was in Japan, the stereotype was always the obedient wife, who generally did give up her job to stay home while the husband went off and worked. Except: in most cases, the men I worked with were given an allowance by the wife, who ruled the pocketbook. No money went out without her approval. Hell, even the ATMs stopped working at certain times at night so the husbands couldn't circumvent the wife's stranglehold on home finances.
I always love how someone makes an equally insulting troll against the Candidates, and people come out of the woodwork to defend "their guy", and ignore the insult against the other fellow. Because, of course, THAT one is spot on!
I keep seeing this argument, that you just need to be thicker skinned. I do believe there are some things in life that a normal, well adjusted human being, can't handle IN LONG TERM DOSES. Sort of like how you can go without sleep for a while, but if you go without sleep for a long time, you go absolutely crazy. That's a physical need. Is it too much to assume there are psychological counterparts to this? The mind's a pretty complicated mechanism. The problem is, if you haven't experienced this, it might just seem like someone is complaining too much
I always thought that was the point: they don't "enjoy" it, per se, but they're trying to find something they can feel emotion about and they've tried all the socially acceptable/not completely wrong things already.
My only disagreement with you would be the law of unintended consequences. Say you filled the homes with homeless. This might decrease demand for homes, leading to fewer homes being built, leading to more people who build homes being put out of work.
Capitalism's cold value is that it's a simple function that works, like physical laws. It's our job to massage it to get that outcome you're looking for. But if we step in too much, it's like getting in the way of a falling rock. I think most of the time the argument is over how or how much to massage...
If someone, from the future, judges you on the values of their day and states "jpapon is a racist hypocritical bigot because he doesn't sleep with goats or refuses our current practice of sacrificing children born with five fingers", would that make it so? I have serious problems with applying current morality to those in the past THEN HOLDING THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT MAGICALLY SEEING THE FUTURE OF MORALITY. By extension, any ideas you come up with would be racist to future generations, so why try at all?
Your point was interesting, up until the "nazi" portion. Ignoring the obvious Godwin statement, you just jumped the shark. You must be from some Fascist state. See, we can both play this game!
"Nobody claims Ecuador is a saint but in the fight against evil you sometimes have to make strange bed fellows."
Oddly enough, the countries that you are accusing of violating human rights use this same justification for those violations. You can't say "My team is forced to use extreme tactics, but the other team's use of the same tactics is evil!"
Everyone keeps bringing this up, but my question is: why would the US gov't even bother? Assange looks douchy already, "kidnapping" or extraditing him would just bring all that wikileakds stuff back up from the forgotten bin of history into the public limelight, and isn't really going to dissuade anyone else who is thinking of doing i again. It's a logical fail.
Here's one for conspiracy theorists: what if the ultimate objective is just to get him to do weird stuff like run to Ecuador for safety and hide there? And he's fallen right into "their" trap!?
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Jeez, some people are heavy handed on the troll tag. Just cuz you don't like it, it's not a troll. mod it down, but troll?
Oddly enough my nephew, a recovering addict, used to continually complain about the police stopping and searching him for no reason. Which often ended up with them finding something.
Which stopped once he got off the drugs and started acting normal. And by normal I mean not looking and acting like a homeless guy sufferring from PTSD and yelling at everyone.
Never happened to me, however.
This is true anywhere. It's like saying "corrupt cops can choose to do bad things".
I could also be stabbed in Uruguay . Does that make Uruguay bad?
What type of gallon are we using here?
Here's the US Gov. Fuel economy page for a 2010 Volvo v70:
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2010_Volvo_V70.shtml
It's highest rating on that is 27 HWY.
Cool! Does this count as a Godwin incident?
Go Blue Team, Booooo Red team!
Or is it the other way around?
I believe you meant to say "innovative".
The fact that you don't consider 30K to be expensive says a lot about you. Because to me, that's a freakin' boatload! Which says a lot about me, too...
Jesus, you've got it in for the Americans, don't you? What is is with you (insert nationality here) and all your multiple exclamation points?!
And what does Shirley have to do with this discussion?
I live in California, and haven't seen any Romney stickers.
But the Obama stickers are ALWAYS on a Prius.
Except for the one I saw on a pickup truck. that one stood out.
Speaking slightly offtopic, but a few years ago, when I was in Japan, the stereotype was always the obedient wife, who generally did give up her job to stay home while the husband went off and worked.
Except: in most cases, the men I worked with were given an allowance by the wife, who ruled the pocketbook.
No money went out without her approval.
Hell, even the ATMs stopped working at certain times at night so the husbands couldn't circumvent the wife's stranglehold on home finances.
In this case, appearances were deceiving.
But still doesn't explain why it was modded as "troll".
And are you still using "con" as a pejorative? I might as well start calling people hippies...
I always love how someone makes an equally insulting troll against the Candidates, and people come out of the woodwork to defend "their guy", and ignore the insult against the other fellow.
Because, of course, THAT one is spot on!
I keep seeing this argument, that you just need to be thicker skinned.
I do believe there are some things in life that a normal, well adjusted human being, can't handle IN LONG TERM DOSES. Sort of like how you can go without sleep for a while, but if you go without sleep for a long time, you go absolutely crazy. That's a physical need. Is it too much to assume there are psychological counterparts to this? The mind's a pretty complicated mechanism.
The problem is, if you haven't experienced this, it might just seem like someone is complaining too much
I always thought that was the point: they don't "enjoy" it, per se, but they're trying to find something they can feel emotion about and they've tried all the socially acceptable/not completely wrong things already.
Whenever I hear someone say "only an idiot would sell right now", I immediately want to sell.
My only disagreement with you would be the law of unintended consequences.
Say you filled the homes with homeless.
This might decrease demand for homes, leading to fewer homes being built, leading to more people who build homes being put out of work.
Capitalism's cold value is that it's a simple function that works, like physical laws.
It's our job to massage it to get that outcome you're looking for. But if we step in too much, it's like getting in the way of a falling rock.
I think most of the time the argument is over how or how much to massage...
Actually, that's the primary reason I'm reading this, is to see what his response will be.
So how many years until I would be able to use .308? less or more than 9mm?
If someone, from the future, judges you on the values of their day and states "jpapon is a racist hypocritical bigot because he doesn't sleep with goats or refuses our current practice of sacrificing children born with five fingers", would that make it so?
I have serious problems with applying current morality to those in the past THEN HOLDING THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT MAGICALLY SEEING THE FUTURE OF MORALITY.
By extension, any ideas you come up with would be racist to future generations, so why try at all?
totally this.
Your point was interesting, up until the "nazi" portion.
Ignoring the obvious Godwin statement, you just jumped the shark. You must be from some Fascist state. See, we can both play this game!
Oh, good lord, stop apologizing. And stop saying everyone sees something you see.
"Nobody claims Ecuador is a saint but in the fight against evil you sometimes have to make strange bed fellows."
Oddly enough, the countries that you are accusing of violating human rights use this same justification for those violations.
You can't say "My team is forced to use extreme tactics, but the other team's use of the same tactics is evil!"
Everyone keeps bringing this up, but my question is: why would the US gov't even bother?
Assange looks douchy already, "kidnapping" or extraditing him would just bring all that wikileakds stuff back up from the forgotten bin of history into the public limelight, and isn't really going to dissuade anyone else who is thinking of doing i again.
It's a logical fail.
Here's one for conspiracy theorists: what if the ultimate objective is just to get him to do weird stuff like run to Ecuador for safety and hide there? And he's fallen right into "their" trap!?