Specifically for the music field, I've been coming to this conclusion for a short while now, simply because I haven't paid for music in a long time, and I've not broken the law in doing so despite the fact that I listen to new music all the time.
Hell, I even pay for music via an emusic subscription. Not due to copyright which I find morally repugnant but because they offer a service with value (well tagged, good recommendations etc).
The only problem is that I can't see specific genres of music (namely, "classical") carrying on without copyright, as it takes a high level of skill to produce these works of art (debate all you want with me, but for me, free music online pales in comparison to something like Rhapsody in Blue or Tristan und Isolde. And I'm not willing to sacrifice opera and other great "proficient" works, I don't think.
Most of that stuff was written before copyright even existed! It will do fine because people are willing to pay to see it performed. You only need real property rights to charge admission.
You, the customer, don't have any rights until you buy them.
I have a fundamental right to freedom of expression. The first ammendment makes no statements on how original that expression must be. On it's face that means I can express myself using the exact same words you do if I want to. However, in the interest or encouraging the arts and sciences we the people have agreed to limit these inherent rights.
What I profoundly dislike about anti-copyright activists is their desire to force their views upon everyone else. At present, nothing prevents artists from doing what you have suggested above. It's up to the artists to decide whether they want to charge everyone who listens to what they have created, or simply want to give their work away for free.
Are you insane? At present, nothing prevents me from giving someone a copy of something except the copyright restrictions that are forced on the populace at the threat of violence.
Copyright itself is a view forced on everyone else!
You're artist, designer, or coder. You make things. Doesn't matter what it is as long as it's easily copyable on the internet (music, images, web pages, software). You do this for a living. One day someone sets up a web page that gives what you sell for a living away to others for free. What would you do? How would you handle it? Would you just tolerate it? What if you began to notice you were no longer making $40,000 a year and ended up making only $20,000 a year? Would you give up the art that you love?
Ok, lets evaluate an example. I am a scribe. I hand-write copies of books for a living. One day somebody invents the printing press. All of a sudden I am no longer making 40K a year. What do I do? Do I force people to un-invent the printing press? I love scribery, but not enough to do it as a hobby apparently.
Hey, RIAA member companies brought Rammstein, a german band, to prominence. Hitler was German. THERE! PROOF POSITIVE THAT THE RIAA HELPED RUN NAZI DEATH CAMPS!
That Sj0 is a funny guy. I liked when he mixed up a truthful statement in with his examples of bad logic to keep us on our toes. Funny stuff!
Calling someone an asshat is an ad-hominem attack. Saying an ad-hominem attack invalidates any other points that were made is also an ad-hominem attack.
In my mind, the amusing thing is that this has happened before... under the Clinton administration. Remember Travelgate? Remember the lost emails that the White House couldn't find?
I guess you were hoping nobody would click through you "supporting" links.
The actual article Headlines:
Hillary escapes 'Travelgate' charges Clinton Aide Vows to Provide Subpoenaed E-Mail Soon
I guess you meant to say "remember when the Clinton administration was cleared of these allegations".
xkcd has some forums. Given the quality of the replies that I've read so far, you should better ask there.
Seriously! I don't know why this thread is so bitter. I actually would have though/.'ers would have some fun with this topic but damn.
One guy sounds actually angry that anyone would dare try to come up with a party he would find fun since he is a math guy. The dating experts against throwing the party in the first place are idiots. Girls like fun/social/entertaining guys that can get things done, planning and executing a unique party is a good thing!
I really have no relevant advice to the question asked other than ignore all the assholes and have fun.
Except in this case, of course, it was John Hagee's spokesman on the radio in New York, doing an interview, and expressing his preference for McCain. I'm really not thinking that Obama's people, or Hillary's, have a lot of influence over the John Hagee's PR machinery in that way. Obviously, McCain was quick to say, "la la la! I'm not listening to that endorsement!" because obviously he has a vested interest in it going away. I found it more amusing than anything else.
But they won't do this, because they are all a bunch of pansies who shrink from a fight, even over serious issues of governance. Somewhere, Abraham Lincoln is weeping.
Isn't that exactly what the Democrats are trying to do here? Bills tend to become laws if passed.
From your linked article:Confounding efforts to determine the Sun's role is the fact that its energy output waxes and wanes every 11 years. This solar cycle, as it is called, reached maximum in the middle of 2000 and achieved a second peak in 2002. It is now ramping down toward a solar minimum that will arrive in about three years.
posted: 02:30 pm ET
20 March 2003
Nice cherry picking, we are in the middle of the minimum right now.
Also, there was a program called metasynth that could turn sound into an image file (like a BMP), and then people could trade BMP files that could then be turned into audio.
Hell, UUencode has been around for ages. For the younguns it was how you encoded binary data into text so you could send a file via Usenet or email.
The other day some local journalists were very upset because police used their unedited film footage to identify and arrest store looters (rioting occurred after a local hockey game).
I mean, the *nerve* of that police! How dare they try to arrest looters? Today they're using the footage to arrest looters, tomorrow they'll use it to arrest rapists! What's next?!
We have these things called checks and balances for a reason. The police can try to arrest anybody they want so long as they subpoena that footage properly.
But here's the bigger question I have about this story -- and it reflects my general disinterest in GPLv3: Who ever claimed that the iPhone was meant to be a general-purpose computing platform?
Nobody. What does that have to do with what license a developer chooses for his code?
I like how this article is now tagged democrats when the iTax grumblings are coming from everywhere. A previous article which is an actual democratic attempt to address the recent voting shortcomings is, of course, not.
That's not a plus. Greenpeace puts peoples lives at stake, and lies to bully large corporation. Green Peace lost any vestige of what it was around 1980.
Well, he was born in '71 so that gives him 9 years before your approval expires.
I would heartlessly argue that someone who's rushed to the ER because they were partying too hard and spending all their money on drugs instead of health insurance shouldn't be treated with the bill paid by society's safety net the same way as, say, a homeless person hit by a car should be treated.
I would agree so long as the provision is against ALL unhealthy habits. A fat person with no insurance should not get treated either.
But that would never happen so let's stop singling out drug users.
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Otherwise you have to wait one whole day for the parts to come in.
In a business environment "one whole day" of downtime can be very expensive.
Specifically for the music field, I've been coming to this conclusion for a short while now, simply because I haven't paid for music in a long time, and I've not broken the law in doing so despite the fact that I listen to new music all the time.
Hell, I even pay for music via an emusic subscription. Not due to copyright which I find morally repugnant but because they offer a service with value (well tagged, good recommendations etc).
The only problem is that I can't see specific genres of music (namely, "classical") carrying on without copyright, as it takes a high level of skill to produce these works of art (debate all you want with me, but for me, free music online pales in comparison to something like Rhapsody in Blue or Tristan und Isolde. And I'm not willing to sacrifice opera and other great "proficient" works, I don't think.
Most of that stuff was written before copyright even existed! It will do fine because people are willing to pay to see it performed. You only need real property rights to charge admission.
Which jerk am I supposed to be rooting for in this story? Card had one good book decades ago and has been riding its success ever since.
The one who understands copyright law.
You, the customer, don't have any rights until you buy them.
I have a fundamental right to freedom of expression. The first ammendment makes no statements on how original that expression must be. On it's face that means I can express myself using the exact same words you do if I want to. However, in the interest or encouraging the arts and sciences we the people have agreed to limit these inherent rights.
What I profoundly dislike about anti-copyright activists is their desire to force their views upon everyone else. At present, nothing prevents artists from doing what you have suggested above. It's up to the artists to decide whether they want to charge everyone who listens to what they have created, or simply want to give their work away for free.
Are you insane? At present, nothing prevents me from giving someone a copy of something except the copyright restrictions that are forced on the populace at the threat of violence.
Copyright itself is a view forced on everyone else!
You're artist, designer, or coder. You make things. Doesn't matter what it is as long as it's easily copyable on the internet (music, images, web pages, software). You do this for a living. One day someone sets up a web page that gives what you sell for a living away to others for free. What would you do? How would you handle it? Would you just tolerate it? What if you began to notice you were no longer making $40,000 a year and ended up making only $20,000 a year? Would you give up the art that you love?
Ok, lets evaluate an example. I am a scribe. I hand-write copies of books for a living. One day somebody invents the printing press. All of a sudden I am no longer making 40K a year. What do I do? Do I force people to un-invent the printing press? I love scribery, but not enough to do it as a hobby apparently.
Hey, RIAA member companies brought Rammstein, a german band, to prominence. Hitler was German. THERE! PROOF POSITIVE THAT THE RIAA HELPED RUN NAZI DEATH CAMPS!
That Sj0 is a funny guy. I liked when he mixed up a truthful statement in with his examples of bad logic to keep us on our toes. Funny stuff!
Calling someone an asshat is an ad-hominem attack. Saying an ad-hominem attack invalidates any other points that were made is also an ad-hominem attack.
In my mind, the amusing thing is that this has happened before... under the Clinton administration. Remember Travelgate? Remember the lost emails that the White House couldn't find?
I guess you were hoping nobody would click through you "supporting" links.
The actual article Headlines:
Hillary escapes 'Travelgate' charges
Clinton Aide Vows to Provide Subpoenaed E-Mail Soon
I guess you meant to say "remember when the Clinton administration was cleared of these allegations".
xkcd has some forums. Given the quality of the replies that I've read so far, you should better ask there.
/.'ers would have some fun with this topic but damn.
Seriously! I don't know why this thread is so bitter. I actually would have though
One guy sounds actually angry that anyone would dare try to come up with a party he would find fun since he is a math guy. The dating experts against throwing the party in the first place are idiots. Girls like fun/social/entertaining guys that can get things done, planning and executing a unique party is a good thing!
I really have no relevant advice to the question asked other than ignore all the assholes and have fun.
Except in this case, of course, it was John Hagee's spokesman on the radio in New York, doing an interview, and expressing his preference for McCain. I'm really not thinking that Obama's people, or Hillary's, have a lot of influence over the John Hagee's PR machinery in that way. Obviously, McCain was quick to say, "la la la! I'm not listening to that endorsement!" because obviously he has a vested interest in it going away. I found it more amusing than anything else.
But they won't do this, because they are all a bunch of pansies who shrink from a fight, even over serious issues of governance. Somewhere, Abraham Lincoln is weeping.
Isn't that exactly what the Democrats are trying to do here? Bills tend to become laws if passed.
Gatorade factory?
That's not salt, its electrolytes!
Here is a graph of the total solar irradiance data if anyone cares. I don't even see the increase the article references. link
From your linked article:Confounding efforts to determine the Sun's role is the fact that its energy output waxes and wanes every 11 years. This solar cycle, as it is called, reached maximum in the middle of 2000 and achieved a second peak in 2002. It is now ramping down toward a solar minimum that will arrive in about three years.
posted: 02:30 pm ET 20 March 2003
Nice cherry picking, we are in the middle of the minimum right now.
Also, there was a program called metasynth that could turn sound into an image file (like a BMP), and then people could trade BMP files that could then be turned into audio.
Hell, UUencode has been around for ages. For the younguns it was how you encoded binary data into text so you could send a file via Usenet or email.
The other day some local journalists were very upset because police used their unedited film footage to identify and arrest store looters (rioting occurred after a local hockey game).
I mean, the *nerve* of that police! How dare they try to arrest looters? Today they're using the footage to arrest looters, tomorrow they'll use it to arrest rapists! What's next?!
We have these things called checks and balances for a reason. The police can try to arrest anybody they want so long as they subpoena that footage properly.
The number (of alien species) could be an astronomical one, it could also, just as easily, be 0.
1. We know life is possbile, but not how likely.
2. We know the universe is effectively infinite.
Therefore, the likelihood of there being a large number of species is much more likely than there being 0.
QED
But here's the bigger question I have about this story -- and it reflects my general disinterest in GPLv3: Who ever claimed that the iPhone was meant to be a general-purpose computing platform?
Nobody. What does that have to do with what license a developer chooses for his code?
You CAN distribute code under the BSD liscence, just you can only distribute to other registered developers.
That's funny because the BSD license says I can distribute it to anyone I want.
I like how this article is now tagged democrats when the iTax grumblings are coming from everywhere. A previous article which is an actual democratic attempt to address the recent voting shortcomings is, of course, not.
That's not a plus. Greenpeace puts peoples lives at stake, and lies to bully large corporation. Green Peace lost any vestige of what it was around 1980.
Well, he was born in '71 so that gives him 9 years before your approval expires.
I would heartlessly argue that someone who's rushed to the ER because they were partying too hard and spending all their money on drugs instead of health insurance shouldn't be treated with the bill paid by society's safety net the same way as, say, a homeless person hit by a car should be treated.
I would agree so long as the provision is against ALL unhealthy habits. A fat person with no insurance should not get treated either.
But that would never happen so let's stop singling out drug users.
I'm not "Won't someone think of the children? apologist."
Nice, the article is tagged as such already.
We are talking about schools here. We should actually think about the children in this case....
Actually, the MPAA gives roughly equally to both parties, see for yourself:
OpenSecret MPAA campaign finance numbers