Well, a clickthrough TOS and a signed NDA are very different beasts. The grandparent made the "sign a legally-binding agreement" bold which definitely imples the NDA.
isn't fair either. Having taxation tied to how much you make is a disincentive to making more (theoretically).
I realize you are just playing devils advocate, but jesus h christ. The fact that you even have to play lip service to such a retarded idea just boggles my mind.
This is completely irrelevant. In order to get the pre-release builds, we have to sign a legally-binding agreement that states, among other things, that we will not redistribute the seeds that we get...This has nothing to do with copyright, it has nothing to do with free publicity. This is about contract law, it is about people signing contracts, and entering into agreements that they have no intention of upholding.
Well, this rant is rather irrelevant as well since the defendant signed no agreement, he just got it through a friend. So, actually, this has nothing to do with contract law and everything to do with copyright law.
seriously people, keep in mind that the majority of spyware etc are actually installed by clueless users. No OS can prevent an idiot from running random crap they find on the web.
First tell me how to convert the legally purchased Windows game I have over to another operating system.
I can tell you what the difference is though. One is a technical issue and the other is a marketing issue. Which one is more likely to be considered anti-competitive?
It doesn't just require a company to have 80, 90 or even 100 percent of the market.
good, then no forthcoming arguments about itunes only having 70% market share by some accounts.
For it to be illegal you have to use illegal tactics and your dominant position to hold that monopoly, or to use your monopoly in one area to gain a monopoly in another.
Like using your dominant online music store to gain a monopoly in mp3 players? This suit is about forcing people to get an ipod to use a player with itunes.
if you obtain your music somewhere else other than the iTMS, if you chose to use iTunes (nothing that says you have to use iTunes either) you can use any portable hard drive music source that runs OS X or Windows...Apple is not forcing anybody to purchase songs from the iTMS.
Strawman: The suit is about iTunes locking out competing players, not the other way around
I can never quite get over the double standard. Windows bundles IE and WMP but allows you to install any programs you want (BAD!!!). iTunes forces you to use an iPod to buy music and does not allow any other players to be used (OK???)
They both have the vast majority of market share and are leveraging it to lock out competition.
"I am free to distribute software I write under any license I like", etc etc, are missing the point.
Is this one missing the point? I do not know that one persons freedoms are allowed to abridge anothers. Or, as the old cliche would put it: The freedom to swing my fist ends at your nose.
I find it interesting when advocates of getting movies or otherwise unauthorized material via P2P state that somebody else's greed is the root cause.
You have some interesting observations but I'm not sure what your overall point is. Is it that people and companies who make more than a certain amount of money shouldn't be worried so much about losses?
Well, if you are going to systematically degrade the movie going experience with ads and ever shrinking screens and audio quality (to squeeze more money out of a crappy movie) you should not be suprised when consumers begin to circumvent your distribution cartel. ("morality" aside)
The summary says high level language like it is a bad thing. If the kid is actually interested in programming why not have it play around with the Python interpreter. You gotta love instant gratification!
About 15 lines of that then I was kicked offline. Keep in mind the kick had to go through 2 chains...the original dialin to the local telnet AND the internet provider. To this day I don't know who that was or how they did it.
Don't forget that it cost way too much money to implement on any sites! Nobody is going to implement your fancy password manager if it costs thousands of dollars to do so.
We are all brought up to believe that the Earth is this fragile thing in which the slightest alteration screws up the balance of nature, but that really is not the case.
The thing with chaotic systems, though, is that there is no way to tell what the effects of a change in input will be. It could be nothing, or it could be everything...who knows...
Finally, I try not to participate in those card gimmicks -- I shop at stores that don't require them.
A-fucking-men! Stop wasting your time masturbating by trying to "poision" the database and support with your wallet those retailers that choose to value your privacy!
FYI: No Thriftway supermarkets use nazi cards (at least in the Seattle area).
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Well, a clickthrough TOS and a signed NDA are very different beasts. The grandparent made the "sign a legally-binding agreement" bold which definitely imples the NDA.
no, i meant the bad grammar nazi with bad grammar...
isn't fair either. Having taxation tied to how much you make is a disincentive to making more (theoretically).
I realize you are just playing devils advocate, but jesus h christ. The fact that you even have to play lip service to such a retarded idea just boggles my mind.
I just love how the grammar/spelling nazis almost always make mistakes in their corrective posts and are usually ACs.
Clever troll, look how many posts it has spawned.
This is completely irrelevant. In order to get the pre-release builds, we have to sign a legally-binding agreement that states, among other things, that we will not redistribute the seeds that we get...This has nothing to do with copyright, it has nothing to do with free publicity. This is about contract law, it is about people signing contracts, and entering into agreements that they have no intention of upholding.
Well, this rant is rather irrelevant as well since the defendant signed no agreement, he just got it through a friend. So, actually, this has nothing to do with contract law and everything to do with copyright law.
seriously people, keep in mind that the majority of spyware etc are actually installed by clueless users. No OS can prevent an idiot from running random crap they find on the web.
First tell me how to convert the legally purchased Windows game I have over to another operating system.
I can tell you what the difference is though. One is a technical issue and the other is a marketing issue. Which one is more likely to be considered anti-competitive?
It doesn't just require a company to have 80, 90 or even 100 percent of the market.
good, then no forthcoming arguments about itunes only having 70% market share by some accounts.
For it to be illegal you have to use illegal tactics and your dominant position to hold that monopoly, or to use your monopoly in one area to gain a monopoly in another.
Like using your dominant online music store to gain a monopoly in mp3 players? This suit is about forcing people to get an ipod to use a player with itunes.
if you obtain your music somewhere else other than the iTMS, if you chose to use iTunes (nothing that says you have to use iTunes either) you can use any portable hard drive music source that runs OS X or Windows...Apple is not forcing anybody to purchase songs from the iTMS.
Strawman: The suit is about iTunes locking out competing players, not the other way around
I can never quite get over the double standard. Windows bundles IE and WMP but allows you to install any programs you want (BAD!!!).
iTunes forces you to use an iPod to buy music and does not allow any other players to be used (OK???)
They both have the vast majority of market share and are leveraging it to lock out competition.
"I am free to distribute software I write under any license I like", etc etc, are missing the point.
Is this one missing the point? I do not know that one persons freedoms are allowed to abridge anothers. Or, as the old cliche would put it: The freedom to swing my fist ends at your nose.
Perhaps this is another devious way MS is going to try to get ahead of rival products - i.e. by labelling them as Spyware.
uhhh...yeah...maybe if they just canned the entire legal department....
I find it interesting when advocates of getting movies or otherwise unauthorized material via P2P state that somebody else's greed is the root cause.
You have some interesting observations but I'm not sure what your overall point is. Is it that people and companies who make more than a certain amount of money shouldn't be worried so much about losses?
Well, if you are going to systematically degrade the movie going experience with ads and ever shrinking screens and audio quality (to squeeze more money out of a crappy movie) you should not be suprised when consumers begin to circumvent your distribution cartel. ("morality" aside)
The summary says high level language like it is a bad thing. If the kid is actually interested in programming why not have it play around with the Python interpreter. You gotta love instant gratification!
MS gives away free viewers for these filetypes here for Windows and Mac
It looks like, as of premier 5, you can not open Final Cut files.
All I was trying to say is that Microsoft and Apple are BOTH proprietary software vendors, get over it!
Can you open Final Cut Pro files in Adobe Premier? (I actually don't know the answer but I seriously doubt it)
yes. there's a difference between Apple "integrating" things and Microsoft "just locking everyone else out".
Open Office and Abiword both work just fine on my windows box.
Hell, maybe this is a good thing. Maybe the fact that the industry is defining this sort of mature audience will in fact encourage more mature titles.
About 15 lines of that then I was kicked offline. Keep in mind the kick had to go through 2 chains...the original dialin to the local telnet AND the internet provider. To this day I don't know who that was or how they did it.
It must have been Acid Burn!
Don't forget that it cost way too much money to implement on any sites! Nobody is going to implement your fancy password manager if it costs thousands of dollars to do so.
Yea...it's strange like that. You can talk about a TV show, but when you try to talk to someone about a forum discussion they just look at you weird.
heh, yeah, I accidentally called Natalie Portman a troll out loud the other day, what a can of worms that was!
We are all brought up to believe that the Earth is this fragile thing in which the slightest alteration screws up the balance of nature, but that really is not the case.
The thing with chaotic systems, though, is that there is no way to tell what the effects of a change in input will be. It could be nothing, or it could be everything...who knows...
We're moving a f'en carrier group into the region for support and search and rescue, you think that's cheap?
Does that *really* cost anything extra?
For a vehicle that measures fuel efficiency in gallons-per-foot I would say the answer is yes.
I think he worked on Wolverine as well. That was my favorite book back in the day.
games had stories back then????
j/k
Finally, I try not to participate in those card gimmicks -- I shop at stores that don't require them.
A-fucking-men! Stop wasting your time masturbating by trying to "poision" the database and support with your wallet those retailers that choose to value your privacy!
FYI: No Thriftway supermarkets use nazi cards (at least in the Seattle area).