American branched at Middle-English rather than Modern-English, which causes some major issues with people attempting to learn English but being taught by an American.
That's not quite true. By the time Columbus set foot in the Americas Middle-English was dead. The initial differences between American English and UK English were introduced by Noah Webster in his Blue Back Speller released in 1783. Webster simplified a lot of words by taking out "uneccessary" characters like the "u" in colour. Most of the other differences were introduced after that as the culture developed separately and new words were introduced. As for spoken English, other than the accent it really isn't that much different if you're from a major metro area in either country. Outside of that English in either country can be unintelligible.
Simple solution. If you live in a country that uses the metric system (most of the world) then use "A4". If you live in a country that still uses the Imperial System (the USA and a few other countries that are slowly converting to metric) then stick to "Letter".
I hope you don't mean to imply that the US is slowly converting to metric. We are not and probably never will. I learned the metric system from a young age because we were taught that it would eventually be the standard in the US as it is elsewhere but I haven't seen any real change in this direction. Metric usage is usually reserved for science and mathematics in the US, but common measurements will never standardize on metric, it's too ingrained in our system and culture.
Here in "western", we think in respect as up to the "is it legal?" level, while more advanced societies goes beyond that level.
That's a little oversimplified don't you think? The basis for Western society is the rule of law. While it does have some downsides it has a lot of upsides too. I wouldn't call Western society "less advanced". It's just different.
Microsoft has a single point of contact for problems, ( though in their case, it is an endless merry go round ). If there were one single place for people to look for answers it would make it much easier to adopt a better system.
That doesn't make any sense. You admit Microsoft support is lacking yet you argue for less diversity in software support? Linux has several companies supporting it. It depends on your vendor unless your just complaining about the lack of support from a freely downloaded ISO. Linux vendors actually support much more software than Microsoft does because Microsoft won't support your 3rd party app but Linux vendors include hundrends of 3rd party applications that they can support because the source is open.
What makes you think that it started or ended with Bush? Conservatives have been bitching about activist judges ever since SCOTUS found a non-existent right to privacy and said that it gives you the right to kill your unborn fetus/child/what-have-you.
This is exactly the reason that some founders did not want a Bill of Rights, because people like you would come along and claim that our only rights under the Constitution are explicitly detailed within the Constitution. This isn't the intent of the Constitution or the Bill of rights. Some rights are assumed. Being a free society means assuming freedom not basing it on a few explicit rights detailed hundreds of years ago.
Both vi and EMACS seem to have taken the "fuck the users" approach to heart.
Really? Both Vi and Emacs have some of the best builtin help available. They are both modal editors so they aren't going to be easy to understand without reading the manual but is it really the fault of the programs's creator that you cannot do advanced editing without reading the manual? If you want easy there are are hundreds of other text editors that are easier to use although they can't do half as much.
The formulas used by lots of investing firms could cause clusters of errors, but the extent of types of companies (and governments) affected points to a more Austrian-style, systemic boom/bust rather than a single-(important-)sector miscalculation.
It makes sense. When the Glass Steagall Act was repealed bank holding companies began buying into financial companies and these financial companies were all taking bad risks based on this formula. A decade later bad behavior caught up with the financial institutions and banks were left holding the bag. Banks tightend lending considerably which is causing the current contraction. That was the whole point of TARP, to re-infuse the banks with capital so they could start lending again. So far it hasn't worked.
All thinkpad drivers and updates are available on Lenovo's site and it has been this way for a while. If you try to go to support on the IBM website thinkpads aren't even listed.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 1930" just before causing this crisis.
I can't believe I missed this the first time you said it. Now I know your only source of information is FOXNews. The stock market crash happened before FDR was in power and housing had been declining for years before that, similar in some ways to our current crisis. There are many things that contributed to the Depression but you will hardly find a consensus that it was caused by FDR unless you only watch FOXNews.
I'm not sure you are aware of this but James Madison doesn't determine what the actual Constitution means. The courts do. You lost this one, get over it. As for the 16th ammendment I mentioned that because it specifically allows taxes on income, something a lot of conservatives think is illegal for some reason. Those two parts of the constitution allow for the government to collect income taxes and spend money for the general welfare of the United States. It doesn't matter what Madison said or what you think. It matters how it is interpreted by the Supreme Court. If you're so sure of yourself you should go to court and see how badly you lose.
You mean like the new testament in the Bible? The writings of Josephus or the discovery of his family tomb or what? I mean there isn't much question that someone named Jesus existed and all you have to do is read the bible to see what people claimed he said and taught.
This is why I can't take you seriously. The New Testament as evidence? None of the books were written at the time of Jesus' supposed life. Josephus? Maybe you should actually do a little research. Josephus' writings about Christ are known forgeries and the tomb you speak of is highly disputed. In fact my friend who is an archaeologist worked with the head of the team that discovered the tomb. Do you know what he found out? The guy is a crackpot. He isn't respected in the field and my friend never ended up working with him again. There is absolutely no concrete evidence of Jesus' existence.
Yes, 25%, the problem wasn't with the number it was with your exaggeration. When you present false facts to back your opinions up, your end up believing in wrong and incorrect ideas.
This was my fault for posting to quickly. I was mixing up my numbers from the stock crach and the unemployment rates. Despite that mix up it doesn't change the point of what I said at all. The fact that you are making such a big deal out of it proves to me you have no case.
Actually, no, the patriot act received a full schedule of debate on both floors of congress and was supported by members from both sides of the isle just like members of both sides apposed it. And no, your completely wrong about the "just about everything the Republicans did for six years under Bush". The republicans only had a majority both houses for a little under 2 of those year. All the legislation brought forth had the proper debate and there was ample time to read the damn shit before having to vote on it. In fact, for the majority of stuff the republicans pushed through, they needed to work with democrats directly because they didn't have enough support from their own team. Never under the Bush administration has a bill been presented and became law like this one has.
That paragraph is more proof you have no idea what you are talking about and just continue to spout off Republican talking points. There was very little debate about the Patriot ACT. Republicans also plopped a huge budget on the Democrats just 24 hours before it was to be voted on and we weren't in an economic crisis at the time like we are now when time is of the essence.
Please explain this point within the context that I provided. If you can't understand that simple difference between off budget emergency spending and entitlement programs, then you really need to shut the hell up about the government until such time as you actually learn something.
Not all wars end. I thought that was obvious.
Then it was changed by democrats claiming this is what republicans wanted and forced through without enough time to read and/or vote on it. If anyone wanted to compromise with republicans, involving them in the process so they had some fucking input on the bill would have been the first step.
I guess you weren't paying attention then. The only reason three Republican senators signed onto the bill was because they made compromises. The House voted on a plan, the Senate voted on an ammended plan, and the House accepted that plan. Obama spoke to Republican congressman directly, something Bush never did. Republicans decided to lock themselves out. The three moderates in the Senate effectively changed some of the bill and if Republicans cared more about actually participating than just saying "No" to spending then they could have accomplished something.
First of all, militarily punishing CEOs and standing against it is not a blanked never tell companies what to do. The republicans have often passed and supported targeted tax breaks to influence behavior. How do you think the hybrids vehicle tax credit came about
That's not even remotely the same thing and you know it. You're being disengenious.
To me that's one of the benefits of open source. The developers are generally pretty honest about what their project can and cannot do. Too many times in the proprietary world companies claim all sorts of stuff that simply isn't true about their products. I guess that is one of the advantages of dealing with the programmers directly instead of salesmen.
The biggest issue I have run into is Lexmark printer support. It seems like everyone and their mom has either a "free" Lexmark printer or a "free" Dell printer that simply doesn't work with Linux. Intel has such a huge share of graphics drivers, wireless drivers, and chipset drivers that hardware support for the actual machine is usually very good in my experience but the peripherals and sometimes the specific applications like Quickbooks are what kills the deal. I love Linux but I don't promote it to other people without caveats.
It all depends on what you're doing. My linux wireless drivers support monitor mode and injection while the Windows drivers do not. Other than that there is nothing I can think of that the Windows wireless drivers do that my Linux wireless drivers cannot do.
Well I have found that jack shit works with 64-bit versions of Windows and since I left 32-bit land 2 years ago I don't really want to go back. 64-bit driver support is definitely subpar compared to Linux. Hell, the whole 64-bit environment is subpar on Windows compared to Linux.
The Communicate STX should work with the gspca driver included in the kernel although I haven't tried it myself. My Logitech Notebook Pro works fne with the UVC driver.
Just for reference, these are the parts of the constitution that do allow for social programs. Interpret them how you like but they can easily be intpreted to justify welfare, education spending, transportation spending, and a lot of other programs that conservatives tend to declare deride and occasionally claim are unconstitutional.
Section 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
Ammendment 16.
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
Obviously it wasn't or we wouldn't be discussing it. You don't have a right to take from me through government or not.
Oh it's still being discussed by people like you but if you think that it's ever going to be reality keep dreaming. You may think the government has no right to do so but you're wrong. If that's your own personal belief fine but I would start looking for a new country if I was you.
The laws were passed for a reason, not because all government's have a default function. Without justification, it is no different then the armed robbery that happens on the street- because you wanted something someone else worked for.
There is justification for taxes. That's where you're wrong. You may not like all the decisions and you may not like our government but it's still a legitimate governement. You seem to be either advocating for running the country for free or total anarchy, neither of which is an option. Otherwise I don't know what fantasyland you are imagining where there can possibely be a functioning governement without taxes.
Actually, it isn't an exercise in futility. In the 90's we got some pretty decent welfare reform. But you should note that I have said nothing about despising the welfare roles, nor have I said anything about wanting to over turn them. I simply asked you to justify why you think you have rights that trump mine. You are the one that said "my right to life, health, and pursuit of happiness trumps your right to keep all your money" aren't you? What if I just stopped making money that you can take? Oh, wait, we end up in the same situation we see ourselves in today.
Welform reform and gutting welfare are two totally different things. I'm not sure how you can justify welfare but at the same time say government has no right to take your money and give to other people. The social programs we have in place prove you are wrong. You may have a personal belief but it isn't a societal belief and it certainly isn't law.
So what makes your right or perceived right more important then mine or the guy who decides to rob someone? In both scenarios, we are being held at gun point in order to force us to surrender our money. If we don't do it voluntarily, the government will send people with guns and they might even take your life or freedoms away.
Take off your tinfoil hat. No one is going to kill you for not paying taxes. Yes will probably go to prison but how are you supposed to enfoce taxation if there are no repercussions? I'd like to know where in the world you could possibly live at least as comfortably as in the US and pay less taxes. You can't. Pretty much every first world country taxes more than the US.
Second, the argument to get rid of the programs aren't because they aren't needed, it's because the federal government doesn't have the constitutional authority to provide them.
There are a shitload of other things that the government does outside what the constitution allows but people realized generations ago that a constitution from over 200 years ago doesn't have all the necessary tools to govern a society like we have today. The right approach was probably to ammend the constitution but that didn't happen and yet we still have a legitimate government. If you want to try to de-legitimize the government with a constitutional crisis that's your right but I don't think you would have many followers. Don't get me wrong I appreciate the constitution but it's just a piece of paper. True legitimacy is derived from the people.
You can quote as many people as you want from the 18th century but the reality is that we are living in a completely different time under completely different circumstances. Just because our constitution is from the 18th century doesn't mean we should live like we are in the 18th century. I have my own persona
It's difficult to take you seriously when you can't even grasp the context of the statement. The character, fictional or not (and there is a good bit of evidence suggesting Jesus wasn't fictional without even bothering to get into the miracles and son of god thing)
Name one credible source.
And the context is that of personal charity verses a faceless bureaucracy presumably to make you feel good without getting your hands dirty. It's really no different then eating spinach as inspired by a fictional character in a cartoon as part of a healthy diet to grow big and strong. If thee association to a fictional character or fictional feats a character supposedly did negates everything associated with them, then your post is meaningless too because you assume your more intelligent then you are thereby creating a fictional environment.
That's a good comparison. Popeye and Jesus are both fictional and both have fictional abilities. Good point.
It mean some not all government organizations are run in a lazy or incompetent fashion.
Welcome to real life. This isn't a strictly goverment problem.
And no, he didn't gloss over the fact that no one donates. That's inborn into the problem when some faceless bureaucracy takes care of it. Why would anyone personally donate when money is taken from them by force and used as charity. Without government involvement and faceless bureaucracies, people would not have that escape and be forced to deal with the problems of society.
Yeah just like all the rich people now taking care of us.
As for the 30% unemployment, you seriously means to inject a fictional number or premise into your argument when you just got done misconstruing the Jesus reference and making an ass of yourself?
You are aware that the depression saw 25% unemployment right? Let's just knock that figure down to 25%. The effect is the same.
Perhaps you should look at that as a life lesson and reevaluate how you treat other people. Money isn't everything you know, I lost a job back in the early 90's and I had to find 3 other people to move in just to pay the bills.
I have friends and a loving family. I have a lease and a live-in girlfriend but without the unemployment benefits we wouldn't be making it right now, I would have been evicted and wouldn't be able to move in anywhere else without a job. All of my friends are either married with kids, living in a small house or apartment. Both my parents got laid off about 10 years ago and are older so my mother never got another job because not many people want to hire a 60 year old Cobol programmer. My father got laid off and found a new job not long after but the pay is 60% of what he used to get. Overall they are making only about 1/3 of what they were 10 years ago. Both my brothers can be laid off at any time in their jobs because the economy is directly affecting their jobs. Take a trip in someone else's shoes and maybe you'll learn something.
Also, there is a big difference between the stimulus bill and war spending. War spending stops as soon as someone says the war is over.
Really? Mission Accomplished! A "War on Terror" isn't really a war that ends. Just like the "War on Drugs".
Now the biggest problem with this bill is that it wasn't properly debated and sidestepped traditional rules of congress. This stimulus package is the result of back room deals that happened away from the house and senate floors and was shoved through congress without enough time to read the entire thing let alone understand it.
Just like the Patriot Act and just about everything the Republicans did for six years under Bush. It didn't matter though. It was clear the Republicans didn't want any part of a s
Gee, my neighbor thought the same thing. He is now serving 5-10 for armed robbery. Tell me again where your self-centered-ness and greed is right or different?
Way to miss the point. This was settled a long time ago. People pay taxes. They continue to pay taxes because the people have legitimized the government. The government then makes use of that money for various reasons, including some you disapprove of. Now there may be something wrong with that in your eyes but you're going to have to deal with it or hope your personal crusade makes sense to the majority of people and it won't. I guess I just don't understand why people are still crying about social programs. They're not going anywhere no matter how much of a stink you want to make about them. People made their minds up years ago. You're free to try and convice people otherwise but it's just an excercise in futility. I think most people, especially at this time of economic crisis, understand that anything can happen to them at any time. That's enough for everyday Americans to support these social programs you despise. That's what's wrong with modern conservatives. Instead of trying to streamline existing programs they just want to throw everything out. A lot of people are for fiscal responsibility and government efficiency but that doesn't mean they want to scrap social programs. If conservatives don't figure out how to successfully run goverment instead of trying to drown it in a bathtub they will become even more irrelevant than they are now.
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That's not quite true. By the time Columbus set foot in the Americas Middle-English was dead. The initial differences between American English and UK English were introduced by Noah Webster in his Blue Back Speller released in 1783. Webster simplified a lot of words by taking out "uneccessary" characters like the "u" in colour. Most of the other differences were introduced after that as the culture developed separately and new words were introduced. As for spoken English, other than the accent it really isn't that much different if you're from a major metro area in either country. Outside of that English in either country can be unintelligible.
I hope you don't mean to imply that the US is slowly converting to metric. We are not and probably never will. I learned the metric system from a young age because we were taught that it would eventually be the standard in the US as it is elsewhere but I haven't seen any real change in this direction. Metric usage is usually reserved for science and mathematics in the US, but common measurements will never standardize on metric, it's too ingrained in our system and culture.
I have a Brother and it defaults to A4 on Linux, which is really annoying in the US where most paper is legal.
That's a little oversimplified don't you think? The basis for Western society is the rule of law. While it does have some downsides it has a lot of upsides too. I wouldn't call Western society "less advanced". It's just different.
With the amount of fans this thing has I doubt it is going to be used for a home theater setup.
you're* just complaining
Fixed it before an overzealous grammar Nazi rears his ugly head.
That doesn't make any sense. You admit Microsoft support is lacking yet you argue for less diversity in software support? Linux has several companies supporting it. It depends on your vendor unless your just complaining about the lack of support from a freely downloaded ISO. Linux vendors actually support much more software than Microsoft does because Microsoft won't support your 3rd party app but Linux vendors include hundrends of 3rd party applications that they can support because the source is open.
This is exactly the reason that some founders did not want a Bill of Rights, because people like you would come along and claim that our only rights under the Constitution are explicitly detailed within the Constitution. This isn't the intent of the Constitution or the Bill of rights. Some rights are assumed. Being a free society means assuming freedom not basing it on a few explicit rights detailed hundreds of years ago.
Really? Both Vi and Emacs have some of the best builtin help available. They are both modal editors so they aren't going to be easy to understand without reading the manual but is it really the fault of the programs's creator that you cannot do advanced editing without reading the manual? If you want easy there are are hundreds of other text editors that are easier to use although they can't do half as much.
Drupal and Joomla both use MVC, not that that term seems to mean anything anymore.
It makes sense. When the Glass Steagall Act was repealed bank holding companies began buying into financial companies and these financial companies were all taking bad risks based on this formula. A decade later bad behavior caught up with the financial institutions and banks were left holding the bag. Banks tightend lending considerably which is causing the current contraction. That was the whole point of TARP, to re-infuse the banks with capital so they could start lending again. So far it hasn't worked.
All thinkpad drivers and updates are available on Lenovo's site and it has been this way for a while. If you try to go to support on the IBM website thinkpads aren't even listed.
I can't believe I missed this the first time you said it. Now I know your only source of information is FOXNews. The stock market crash happened before FDR was in power and housing had been declining for years before that, similar in some ways to our current crisis. There are many things that contributed to the Depression but you will hardly find a consensus that it was caused by FDR unless you only watch FOXNews.
I have a better idea. Let's destroy Lexmark so no one has to deal with their crappy printers anymore! ;)
I'm not sure you are aware of this but James Madison doesn't determine what the actual Constitution means. The courts do. You lost this one, get over it. As for the 16th ammendment I mentioned that because it specifically allows taxes on income, something a lot of conservatives think is illegal for some reason. Those two parts of the constitution allow for the government to collect income taxes and spend money for the general welfare of the United States. It doesn't matter what Madison said or what you think. It matters how it is interpreted by the Supreme Court. If you're so sure of yourself you should go to court and see how badly you lose.
This is why I can't take you seriously. The New Testament as evidence? None of the books were written at the time of Jesus' supposed life. Josephus? Maybe you should actually do a little research. Josephus' writings about Christ are known forgeries and the tomb you speak of is highly disputed. In fact my friend who is an archaeologist worked with the head of the team that discovered the tomb. Do you know what he found out? The guy is a crackpot. He isn't respected in the field and my friend never ended up working with him again. There is absolutely no concrete evidence of Jesus' existence.
This was my fault for posting to quickly. I was mixing up my numbers from the stock crach and the unemployment rates. Despite that mix up it doesn't change the point of what I said at all. The fact that you are making such a big deal out of it proves to me you have no case.
That paragraph is more proof you have no idea what you are talking about and just continue to spout off Republican talking points. There was very little debate about the Patriot ACT. Republicans also plopped a huge budget on the Democrats just 24 hours before it was to be voted on and we weren't in an economic crisis at the time like we are now when time is of the essence.
Not all wars end. I thought that was obvious.
I guess you weren't paying attention then. The only reason three Republican senators signed onto the bill was because they made compromises. The House voted on a plan, the Senate voted on an ammended plan, and the House accepted that plan. Obama spoke to Republican congressman directly, something Bush never did. Republicans decided to lock themselves out. The three moderates in the Senate effectively changed some of the bill and if Republicans cared more about actually participating than just saying "No" to spending then they could have accomplished something.
That's not even remotely the same thing and you know it. You're being disengenious.
To me that's one of the benefits of open source. The developers are generally pretty honest about what their project can and cannot do. Too many times in the proprietary world companies claim all sorts of stuff that simply isn't true about their products. I guess that is one of the advantages of dealing with the programmers directly instead of salesmen.
The biggest issue I have run into is Lexmark printer support. It seems like everyone and their mom has either a "free" Lexmark printer or a "free" Dell printer that simply doesn't work with Linux. Intel has such a huge share of graphics drivers, wireless drivers, and chipset drivers that hardware support for the actual machine is usually very good in my experience but the peripherals and sometimes the specific applications like Quickbooks are what kills the deal. I love Linux but I don't promote it to other people without caveats.
It all depends on what you're doing. My linux wireless drivers support monitor mode and injection while the Windows drivers do not. Other than that there is nothing I can think of that the Windows wireless drivers do that my Linux wireless drivers cannot do.
Well I have found that jack shit works with 64-bit versions of Windows and since I left 32-bit land 2 years ago I don't really want to go back. 64-bit driver support is definitely subpar compared to Linux. Hell, the whole 64-bit environment is subpar on Windows compared to Linux.
The Communicate STX should work with the gspca driver included in the kernel although I haven't tried it myself. My Logitech Notebook Pro works fne with the UVC driver.
Just for reference, these are the parts of the constitution that do allow for social programs. Interpret them how you like but they can easily be intpreted to justify welfare, education spending, transportation spending, and a lot of other programs that conservatives tend to declare deride and occasionally claim are unconstitutional.
Section 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
Ammendment 16.
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
Oh it's still being discussed by people like you but if you think that it's ever going to be reality keep dreaming. You may think the government has no right to do so but you're wrong. If that's your own personal belief fine but I would start looking for a new country if I was you.
There is justification for taxes. That's where you're wrong. You may not like all the decisions and you may not like our government but it's still a legitimate governement. You seem to be either advocating for running the country for free or total anarchy, neither of which is an option. Otherwise I don't know what fantasyland you are imagining where there can possibely be a functioning governement without taxes.
Welform reform and gutting welfare are two totally different things. I'm not sure how you can justify welfare but at the same time say government has no right to take your money and give to other people. The social programs we have in place prove you are wrong. You may have a personal belief but it isn't a societal belief and it certainly isn't law.
Take off your tinfoil hat. No one is going to kill you for not paying taxes. Yes will probably go to prison but how are you supposed to enfoce taxation if there are no repercussions? I'd like to know where in the world you could possibly live at least as comfortably as in the US and pay less taxes. You can't. Pretty much every first world country taxes more than the US.
There are a shitload of other things that the government does outside what the constitution allows but people realized generations ago that a constitution from over 200 years ago doesn't have all the necessary tools to govern a society like we have today. The right approach was probably to ammend the constitution but that didn't happen and yet we still have a legitimate government. If you want to try to de-legitimize the government with a constitutional crisis that's your right but I don't think you would have many followers. Don't get me wrong I appreciate the constitution but it's just a piece of paper. True legitimacy is derived from the people.
You can quote as many people as you want from the 18th century but the reality is that we are living in a completely different time under completely different circumstances. Just because our constitution is from the 18th century doesn't mean we should live like we are in the 18th century. I have my own persona
Name one credible source.
That's a good comparison. Popeye and Jesus are both fictional and both have fictional abilities. Good point.
Welcome to real life. This isn't a strictly goverment problem.
Yeah just like all the rich people now taking care of us.
You are aware that the depression saw 25% unemployment right? Let's just knock that figure down to 25%. The effect is the same.
I have friends and a loving family. I have a lease and a live-in girlfriend but without the unemployment benefits we wouldn't be making it right now, I would have been evicted and wouldn't be able to move in anywhere else without a job. All of my friends are either married with kids, living in a small house or apartment. Both my parents got laid off about 10 years ago and are older so my mother never got another job because not many people want to hire a 60 year old Cobol programmer. My father got laid off and found a new job not long after but the pay is 60% of what he used to get. Overall they are making only about 1/3 of what they were 10 years ago. Both my brothers can be laid off at any time in their jobs because the economy is directly affecting their jobs. Take a trip in someone else's shoes and maybe you'll learn something.
Really? Mission Accomplished! A "War on Terror" isn't really a war that ends. Just like the "War on Drugs".
Just like the Patriot Act and just about everything the Republicans did for six years under Bush. It didn't matter though. It was clear the Republicans didn't want any part of a s
Way to miss the point. This was settled a long time ago. People pay taxes. They continue to pay taxes because the people have legitimized the government. The government then makes use of that money for various reasons, including some you disapprove of. Now there may be something wrong with that in your eyes but you're going to have to deal with it or hope your personal crusade makes sense to the majority of people and it won't. I guess I just don't understand why people are still crying about social programs. They're not going anywhere no matter how much of a stink you want to make about them. People made their minds up years ago. You're free to try and convice people otherwise but it's just an excercise in futility. I think most people, especially at this time of economic crisis, understand that anything can happen to them at any time. That's enough for everyday Americans to support these social programs you despise. That's what's wrong with modern conservatives. Instead of trying to streamline existing programs they just want to throw everything out. A lot of people are for fiscal responsibility and government efficiency but that doesn't mean they want to scrap social programs. If conservatives don't figure out how to successfully run goverment instead of trying to drown it in a bathtub they will become even more irrelevant than they are now.