That argument is flawed. Crazy Old Men ranting about electricity is completely different. People rely on their computers, especially in this time=money world.
People weren't commonly using electricity, so they had nothing to lose by trying it (or not trying it for that matter). But as other arguments are saying, that the internet will be as reliable as ever with very little down time, to remove this problem, then it seems like this remote OS could work; Of course this is ignoring the fact that if someone walked by and cut your cable you'd be screwed.
both responses so far missed the point (or maybe got it, but argued against it still). You rely on electricity, right? Without electricity your computer wouldn't run (granted you can have batteries, but that runs out). No one (other than Crazy Old Men) sits around and says "don't rely on a computer because you might have a power failure". We just use our computers, and when the power fails, we wait until it comes back up.
If people come to rely on their internet connections the way they do power, it'll be the same scenario. Like the way we have battery backup and generators, their will be a backup connections for those who really need 24/7 connections. Your fiber connection fails? Use cable/DSL/dial-up/cellular as backup. For example, my cable provider already provides dial-up in addition to cable which I can use if my cable goes down.
But I'd like to see all non-OS exectuables in their own folder under one "Program Files" folder, along with their configuration files.
That's fine just don't include any white-space in such often-used folders like "Program Files"! "ProgramFiles" or "Applications" or whatever, just no white space!!!
OMG WTF? Why doesn't he just run OS X on it??!?? That's a waste of perfectly good hardware. OS X is sooo much better than Linux. blahblahbalhbalhbalhb </mac zealot>
True.. I think if Linux never came into existance, FreeBSD (or one of the other BSD's) would have played the same role Linux has. But the twist would be the licensing..
First of all middle-click is MEANT for text only. Second of all you are pulling an image from a web page, not something local on your machine. If you were copying from something local, ctrl+c, or right-click copy would work fine. No web browser by default will just copy an image by ctrl+c'ing it, you would have to save it first from the server it sits on dude.
You're right, neither CTRL-C/V or middle click will copy an image from a browser.
Try drag and drop an image from a browser to the desktop or a folder. This works in Windows and OS X even in Firefox. In Linux, I think it only works within Konqueror, but not Firefox. Though I'm a Gnome user, so maybe it might work in KDE (haven't tried in a long time).
Hello quirks. Trading the python quirks for ruby quirks isn't actually solving anything. Maybe you should accept that not everyone wants to use ruby, and some people who do want to can't, because they need threads.
Pardon my ignorance, but how is Ruby lacking compared to Python regarding threads?
Uses the default theme anyway, that the beautiness of having themes, but for those that hasn't used gnome or gnu/linux at all, the first impression will be important...
Well I guess I must be one of the few. I used to use the Industrial theme (both controls and border) which looks very nice and is similar to ClearLooks (at least in its curvyness), and also tried a few other more eye-candied themes. But I eventually just switched to Gnome's default theme (default controls and simple border, as in the screenshot) when I discovered how much faster it renders than the prettier themes. It's easy on the eyes, too; text and widgets are very visible.
Maybe it's just me.. For example, I started using OS X and find its look gets really old after a while. And I find my Gnome desktop to much more friendly on the eyes. I think too much shading makes it harder to make out when shapes end and begin. It's too bad Apple doesn't allow different themes.
Though, it's cool that they are switching the default to something more people would like, but the current default is what I'll be using for a while.
No, a lot of people don't do that, geeks rip their entire CD collection to their HD.
Bullshit.. Get with the times, you don't have to be a geek just to do simple stuff like rip CD collections. I see total non-geeks doing that all the time. Many people buy PC's just to have a digital jukebox.
It's the visual equivalent of listening to Cyndi Lauper records from the '80s - you can't believe people ever liked the stuff when you look at it with some hindsight.
I'm sorry, but Cyndi Lauper totally rocks. If you don't like listening to her records from the '80's you are out of your mind.
Some people say that providing open source applications on Windows helps proprietary software and the Windows monopoly, but I don't think so. Software like Apache, PHP, PostgreSQL on the server, and Mozilla Firefox, Thunderbird, and OpenOffice on the client lets Windows users gradually move over to open source applications. I think that's a much better way of getting people to switch than to ask them to do an all-or-nothing switch.
I agree. Especially when it comes to tools like this. A lot of developers are developing on Windows (not necessarilly by choice) and deploying to Linux. Having a Windows version helps for this case. At some point you find that all the tools you are using in Windows are available in Linux and the switch can be made. This would not work if there were no Windows versions.
Saying MySQL is better than Access is not saying much. MySQL may be excellent when it meets the requirements, but there are a lot of cases where it simply does not.
I had these crazy dreams of designing and building CPUs and other cool digital logic type stuff, but it looks like I'm going to end up a code monkey:(
Yeah, I'm also a comp eng major. The computer architecture and digital design classes were so interesting that I really wanted to get into that area. But I'm now doing software development and far far away from anything hardware-related. It's not so bad, though, I enjoy it enough. And also software jobs are more widespread, meaning you can find a job in most cities, whereas with a more hardware-oriented job you have less flexibility as to what companies you can work for and where you can live.
I think in order to get a job doing real computer engineering, you need at least a masters degree (I only have BS and could not find such a job).
Interesting. Even when I graduated (1991), it was still possible to get a programming/development job on basis of skills/experience alone, regardless of degree (or G.P.A. for that matter).
If you want to program, get an EE or Computer Engineering degree instead of a CS degree.
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Like GMail and POP3. You see, 1GB webmail with text ads based on contents of email, all fine and clear. But a non-crippling POP3 that lets you avoid the ads? Where's the catch?
My speculation is that the majority of the people using webmail don't even know or care what POP3 is.
But I am too wondering where the catch is. They didn't say POP3 will always be free, maybe they will make it a pay service at some point. Or maybe they just don't expect many people to use it, but want to make the few that would use it happy.
When/if they get IMAP (even if it is a pay service) I'll be more interested, though.
I think your point may stand with software. With software, the tendency is to choose one piece of software for a particular task. So you tend to have one operating system, word processor, etc. The prime example to support your point is Windows, piracy helps it keep its position. Microsoft has even been shown to ignore piracy.
The same applies to music or movies. Everyone bemoans about how independent labels and artists are better, and how the MPAA and RIAA just rehash the exact same crap that sold before.
I disagree on music. Copying music/movies from the MPAA/RIAA does not limit people from purchasing other media. For example, I'll gladly copy music that is from a major label, and I have the tendency to avoid buying major label albums. I want a copy of the new Eminem album, but I will not buy it. It's not worth the money to me. However, I buy a lot of albums from indie bands. I buy albums of bands my friends are in. I support the local music scene as well as smaller labels. But I also listen to more popular music by copying it (or radio). I suppose not everyone makes purchasing decisions the way I do, but still, I don't think your argument applies to music/movies.
Sorry, but this time Microsoft wins. Sunbird is not even a complete piece of software. Last time I used it, not all the menu buttons even did anything. (This was a known problem.) I imagine on a Windows system, where one app crashing can bring down the system, it is a lot more annoying.
You either are not paying attention, or that is a really weak troll. Yes, Sunbird is incomplete right now. But the point is that they are going to work on making it complete.
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That argument is flawed. Crazy Old Men ranting about electricity is completely different. People rely on their computers, especially in this time=money world.
People weren't commonly using electricity, so they had nothing to lose by trying it (or not trying it for that matter). But as other arguments are saying, that the internet will be as reliable as ever with very little down time, to remove this problem, then it seems like this remote OS could work; Of course this is ignoring the fact that if someone walked by and cut your cable you'd be screwed.
both responses so far missed the point (or maybe got it, but argued against it still). You rely on electricity, right? Without electricity your computer wouldn't run (granted you can have batteries, but that runs out). No one (other than Crazy Old Men) sits around and says "don't rely on a computer because you might have a power failure". We just use our computers, and when the power fails, we wait until it comes back up.
If people come to rely on their internet connections the way they do power, it'll be the same scenario. Like the way we have battery backup and generators, their will be a backup connections for those who really need 24/7 connections. Your fiber connection fails? Use cable/DSL/dial-up/cellular as backup. For example, my cable provider already provides dial-up in addition to cable which I can use if my cable goes down.
Everything in Longhorn will be based on the .NET framework and sandboxed, with the Win32 API scrapped.
You're a damn fool if you believe that. Or at least, if you believe that and that Longhorn will be released this decade.
But I'd like to see all non-OS exectuables in their own folder under one "Program Files" folder, along with their configuration files.
That's fine just don't include any white-space in such often-used folders like "Program Files"! "ProgramFiles" or "Applications" or whatever, just no white space!!!
Look here zealots. You have your work cut out. Let the GNOME/KDE flames begin.
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Gnome and KDE both kick ass!
They are way better than the over-hyped OS X interface..
OMG WTF? Why doesn't he just run OS X on it??!?? That's a waste of perfectly good hardware. OS X is sooo much better than Linux. blahblahbalhbalhbalhb
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True.. I think if Linux never came into existance, FreeBSD (or one of the other BSD's) would have played the same role Linux has. But the twist would be the licensing..
First of all middle-click is MEANT for text only. Second of all you are pulling an image from a web page, not something local on your machine. If you were copying from something local, ctrl+c, or right-click copy would work fine. No web browser by default will just copy an image by ctrl+c'ing it, you would have to save it first from the server it sits on dude.
You're right, neither CTRL-C/V or middle click will copy an image from a browser.
Try drag and drop an image from a browser to the desktop or a folder. This works in Windows and OS X even in Firefox. In Linux, I think it only works within Konqueror, but not Firefox. Though I'm a Gnome user, so maybe it might work in KDE (haven't tried in a long time).
Hello quirks. Trading the python quirks for ruby quirks isn't actually solving anything. Maybe you should accept that not everyone wants to use ruby, and some people who do want to can't, because they need threads.
Pardon my ignorance, but how is Ruby lacking compared to Python regarding threads?
There's nothing special about the Mac Mini. They were just big idiots for not doing this sooner and now that they finally did it seems brilliant.
Uses the default theme anyway, that the beautiness of having themes, but for those that hasn't used gnome or gnu/linux at all, the first impression will be important ...
Well I guess I must be one of the few. I used to use the Industrial theme (both controls and border) which looks very nice and is similar to ClearLooks (at least in its curvyness), and also tried a few other more eye-candied themes. But I eventually just switched to Gnome's default theme (default controls and simple border, as in the screenshot) when I discovered how much faster it renders than the prettier themes. It's easy on the eyes, too; text and widgets are very visible.
Maybe it's just me.. For example, I started using OS X and find its look gets really old after a while. And I find my Gnome desktop to much more friendly on the eyes. I think too much shading makes it harder to make out when shapes end and begin. It's too bad Apple doesn't allow different themes.
Though, it's cool that they are switching the default to something more people would like, but the current default is what I'll be using for a while.
No, a lot of people don't do that, geeks rip their entire CD collection to their HD.
Bullshit.. Get with the times, you don't have to be a geek just to do simple stuff like rip CD collections. I see total non-geeks doing that all the time. Many people buy PC's just to have a digital jukebox.
The 8X drive is only for reading DVD, the write speed for DVD is still 4X.
It's the visual equivalent of listening to Cyndi Lauper records from the '80s - you can't believe people ever liked the stuff when you look at it with some hindsight.
I'm sorry, but Cyndi Lauper totally rocks. If you don't like listening to her records from the '80's you are out of your mind.
Some people say that providing open source applications on Windows helps proprietary software and the Windows monopoly, but I don't think so. Software like Apache, PHP, PostgreSQL on the server, and Mozilla Firefox, Thunderbird, and OpenOffice on the client lets Windows users gradually move over to open source applications. I think that's a much better way of getting people to switch than to ask them to do an all-or-nothing switch.
I agree. Especially when it comes to tools like this. A lot of developers are developing on Windows (not necessarilly by choice) and deploying to Linux. Having a Windows version helps for this case. At some point you find that all the tools you are using in Windows are available in Linux and the switch can be made. This would not work if there were no Windows versions.
Saying MySQL is better than Access is not saying much. MySQL may be excellent when it meets the requirements, but there are a lot of cases where it simply does not.
India's Bollywood outshines Hollywood
They have got to be fucking kidding. Cut out all the song and dance crap, and maybe, just maybe Bollywood has a chance.
I think he means 80K total for all programmers :)
I had these crazy dreams of designing and building CPUs and other cool digital logic type stuff, but it looks like I'm going to end up a code monkey :(
Yeah, I'm also a comp eng major. The computer architecture and digital design classes were so interesting that I really wanted to get into that area. But I'm now doing software development and far far away from anything hardware-related. It's not so bad, though, I enjoy it enough. And also software jobs are more widespread, meaning you can find a job in most cities, whereas with a more hardware-oriented job you have less flexibility as to what companies you can work for and where you can live.
I think in order to get a job doing real computer engineering, you need at least a masters degree (I only have BS and could not find such a job).
Interesting. Even when I graduated (1991), it was still possible to get a programming/development job on basis of skills/experience alone, regardless of degree (or G.P.A. for that matter).
If you want to program, get an EE or Computer Engineering degree instead of a CS degree.
Like GMail and POP3. You see, 1GB webmail with text ads based on contents of email, all fine and clear. But a non-crippling POP3 that lets you avoid the ads?
Where's the catch?
My speculation is that the majority of the people using webmail don't even know or care what POP3 is.
But I am too wondering where the catch is. They didn't say POP3 will always be free, maybe they will make it a pay service at some point. Or maybe they just don't expect many people to use it, but want to make the few that would use it happy.
When/if they get IMAP (even if it is a pay service) I'll be more interested, though.
I think your point may stand with software. With software, the tendency is to choose one piece of software for a particular task. So you tend to have one operating system, word processor, etc. The prime example to support your point is Windows, piracy helps it keep its position. Microsoft has even been shown to ignore piracy.
The same applies to music or movies. Everyone bemoans about how independent labels and artists are better, and how the MPAA and RIAA just rehash the exact same crap that sold before.
I disagree on music. Copying music/movies from the MPAA/RIAA does not limit people from purchasing other media. For example, I'll gladly copy music that is from a major label, and I have the tendency to avoid buying major label albums. I want a copy of the new Eminem album, but I will not buy it. It's not worth the money to me. However, I buy a lot of albums from indie bands. I buy albums of bands my friends are in. I support the local music scene as well as smaller labels. But I also listen to more popular music by copying it (or radio). I suppose not everyone makes purchasing decisions the way I do, but still, I don't think your argument applies to music/movies.
i for one need IE.... to surf to www.getfirefox.com
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You know they do include FTP in Windows
Sorry, but this time Microsoft wins. Sunbird is not even a complete piece of software. Last time I used it, not all the menu buttons even did anything. (This was a known problem.) I imagine on a Windows system, where one app crashing can bring down the system, it is a lot more annoying.
You either are not paying attention, or that is a really weak troll. Yes, Sunbird is incomplete right now. But the point is that they are going to work on making it complete.
A better question is, how can we trust anything from Microsoft. Without the source code, who knows what their software is doing behind the scenes.
True enough.. I have two answers to the question "How can I trust Firefox?":
1. Use Firefox in Linux
2. Read the Fucking Source Code
Dude... that version of Eudora kicked ass!