I've said this several times in replies already. YOU made that choice. You decided that you need help, and you're trying to get it. My beef is with people that medicate their children simply to get them to behave like unthinking machines. I know people like this, and it pisses me off. Okay, maybe the office analogy was a bad one. Hell, it may even be that I truly don't know what ADD and ADHD are. The bullshit I've always been told was that it was characterised by a lack of ability to concentrate on any task for a given amount of time, general lack if interest in everything, and a tendency to not pay attention to anything. By that definition, *I* have ADHD. Granted, I also have the symptoms of autism, rickets, the black plague and being legally braindead, but that's the point I'm making here.;) My cousin, for another example. He was diagnosed with ADD when he was maybe eight or nine years old. Several years later, he was CORRECTLY diagnosed as having a mild form of Tourettes. He had the symptoms of ADD, they treated it as ADD without going any further.
Sorry if I pissed you off, dude. It wasn't my intention to sound like I look down on people that have real, serious, problems and make a choice to seek help. It WAS my intention to sound like I'm pissed at the ignorance of people that medicate children for no good reason.
Taking medication voluntarily is just like choosing what car to drive, what shoes to wear, or what house to buy. It's all personal preference. I know people have problems. I know people that HAVE real problems. I went to school with a guy that peeled his fingernails off for fun in class one day. Another guy I knew sat beside me stabbing the back of his hand with a thumbtack for the better part of an hour. The most fucked up thing is that despite this, neither one were medicated AFAIK. And this was not the extent of the shit they did, believe me.
After reading one post I have made on a public forum, you have diagnosed me as a dysfunctional psychopath. Let me put it to you like this... I don't give a fuck what you think. In turn, you shouldn't give a fuck what I think. However, I give a fuck what you think insofar as I may find your opinion to be interesting and insightful. The way I see it, there are far more shades of gray than there are colors. Don't assume anything about me, and I won't assume anything about you. Now, can we restart this conversation?
*I* want to take this little pill everyday so that I can act the way I want to. Without it, I can't.
There you go. The way YOU want to feel. If YOU think you need medication, go for it. I'm not ostracizing every person that takes medication. I'm stating that making children take medication to get them to act a certain way is something that needs to be done with quite a bit more caution than is currently displayed. I would not dare to say whether you are right or wrong for making the choice to take medication to help your problems. That's your business, that's your choice.
If everything you said is true (I don't doubt that it is, BTW), then it was YOU that made the decision that without help you can't function the way you want to. At some point you have to ignore what everyone else says, cut through the bullshit, and deal with your problems in your own way. I managed to do this without medication. I came to the realization that the problems I had were indeed all in my head. The people beating the shit out of me, the bad grades, the fact that nobody I knew gave two shits whether I lived or died. I finally realized that ultimately, *I* was the problem, that there was nothing physically or physiologically wrong with me, and that I just needed to pull my head out of my ass and get on with it. Some people have real problems. You seem to have very real, very self-destructive problems. The good thing is that you know this and you want to do something about it. It might not seem this way from my previous statements, but however you choose to deal with those problems is fine with me. If you feel medication is neccesary, then it is. My problem is not with medication. My problem is with people that are forced to take medication to conform with an uncaring parents wishes for an easy to deal with child.
I'm sorry if I have offended you. People seem to always assume the worst about everything I say, about everything everyone says. In truth, I support anything you want to do as long as you make the choice. I really hope that you can pull everything together one day.
But the way that ADD and ADHD are treated, it's like saying that anyone who has more than two beers a day is automaticaly an alcoholic. If you act like foo, you are bar. I don't think anyone is saying these disorders aren't real, just that they're overdiagnosed.
I don't beg. I don't con. Hell, I haven't even borrowed money from anyone. I don't damage people or their stuff, and I don't keep my neighbors up until 3AM. I am completely fine with doing what I do. I am a guitar tech. I love guitars, and have no interest whatsoever in having any kind of job not related to them. I see this as no different than someone who has no interest having a job not related to computers. One person is a good programmer, another a good secretary, another a good teacher, andother a good guitar tech. We all have our roles. I just know mine a bit better than most people.
Thank you for assuming that since I haven't experienced something personally, I don't know a fucking thing about it. I knew kids in school that were like robots. One girl in particular, the first person I knew of with ADD (although she'd probably get smacked with ADHD now since she was hyper as holy hell) was put on Ritalin and it made all the difference in the world. She went from being a normal, if a bit wired kid (we were both 8, BTW) to being... something else. She never seemed quite right after she was put on Ritalin. If Futurama was around then, I'd have been reminded of those brain-sucking things that attached themselves to Hermes' head. Yes, ADD and ADHD are real disorders, but how many of the people diagnosed ACTUALLY HAVE those disorders? The symptoms read to me like a description of every ninja-loving, comic-book reading, sugar-eating kid I've ever know, including myself. I'm not questioning whether or not these disorders exist, it's obvious they do, I'm questioning whether even one tenth of the people diagnosed with it actually have a problem or are in reality just kids being kids.
And I have never heard of anyone fearing for their lives because of someone with ADHD. Inability to control violent tendencies speaks to a much more deep seated psychological (or physiological) problem, but then agan IANAPhD or MD.
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Damn straight. I have not been diagnosed as having ADHD, but I guarantee you that if I went to see any doctor they would in fact shove Ritalin down my throat. I don't like to do anything for very long, I tend to let my mind wander all over the place, I don't sit still, I basically act weird... DOPE ME UP! Whatever doctor put a 5 year old on Ritalin should be... whatever the doctor equivalent of disbarred is... can't remember the term... he should have his ass kicked, anyway.;) At 5, the brain simply does no function the way that it will later in life. I would not be surprised to see, 10-15 years from now, a generation of kids that were on Ritalin from the time they were 5 until they were out of high school and as a result are either hopelessly addicted to it, or even worse, whose brains simply don't function correctly without having that extra 'correction'.
I thought that after a certain age, Ritalin had the same effects as methamphetamine since that's what it is, basically. There's no damn way I would EVER feed myself pills to conform to someone else's idea of how I should act. Not Ritalin, not Prozac, none of this bullshit whose sole purpose is to make me act like a fucking robot. I'm a hyperactive little bastard. If I'm not doing something I like, then I get very agitated and don't want to do it. This is THE WAY THAT PEOPLE FUNCTION. This is not a disorder, this is simply acting the way you want to. Excuse me going off like this in what should be a fairly serious topic. There are people that actually do have disorders that prevent them from concentrating, etc, but at what point does the exception become the norm? Besides, who's worse off? Those that jump up and go running around the office shooting paperclips at each other because it seemed like fun, or those that never have done that and never will because the medications they're on supresses any urge to do anything ever.
But the word in question has many different uses in many different places. It's used in a perjorative sense in England, Scotland, Ireland, and all those other countries that have really cool accents. It's the inverse of calling someone a dick, as it were.;)
DO they have a more substantial claim? If they had come out, shown some proof, and not gone insane threatening everyone that's ever used Linux, you'd probably see a lot of support from here. But they didn't. Instead they offer absolutely no proof, fire off letters basically telling everyone that uses Linux that they're software pirates, and now they're trying to exert control over code that other companies developed. When you pull bullshit stunts like this, you're going to get called on it.
From the GPL, section 3: If distribution of executable or object code is made by offering access to copy from a designated place, then offering equivalent access to copy the source code from the same place counts as distribution of the source code, even though third parties are not compelled to copy the source along with the object code.
Unless they modified the source for your software, they don't have to distribute it. Would you prefer that Linksys start their own distribution site, possibly with outdated versions of your software, to distribute code that is easily available directly from you? I agree that there should be a note or something in the back of the manual stating what software the router runs on and, if applicable, where to obtain it. According to the GPL, if I'm reading it correctly, an alternative to distributing the code yourself is stating where the code can be obtained (assuming no modification).
I guess none of you have considered that possibly the source for the Linux kernel, as well as whatever else they're using, HASN'T BEEN MODIFIED. No modification, no release neccesary. Whatever they add on top of it does NOT become GPL unless THEY LICENSE IT UNDER THE GPL. Just because something runs on Linux DOES NOT MAKE IT OPEN SOURCE. Just because something contains Linux code does not mean you get the source. Tough shit.
Metric complicated? Bullshit. Divide by ten. What's so hard about that? Now Imperial measurements, that's a bitch. All those 64ths and 9/16ths... a real PITA. Last year I worked setting up guitars and everything was done in metric. Has me wondering why the fuck the US isn't on board.
No, they don't. The artists decide what goes into liner notes most of the time, and most bands I know of hire people that have nothing to do with their record label to put them together.
It's damned easy to find the end of code blocks. There's these handy little things called comments. You can put them anyplace in your code. You can use them as bookmarks, and you can even write handy little notes for yourself and others to help you remember what the program does at a later time. Neat, huh?
I use tabs and haven't ever had a problem reading Python code, even complex programs written by others. Does the absence of a } really throw you off so much you can't read? Gimme a break, dude.
What's the difference between AIX and Redhat? Between Solaris and Suse? What is so damned different that it's worth all this pointless bitching? Don't give me the maturity bullshit. That means nothing. Whether the code is two months old or 20 years old, the important thing is how well it is written. Does code suddenly get better after just sitting around a few years? I didn't think so. Stability? Don't think so either. 60% of the internet that runs Linux along with Apache might not agree.
IMO, the only difference is that it's just another thing for stuck-up assholes to whine like little girls about. Get the fuck over it.
Fine then. ALL samples should be cleared and paid for. If you're such a shitty musician that you can't play a fucking guitar yourself, you shouldn't be allowed to run a sampler either. If it's so damned unrecognisable, what's the point in the first place?
And at least Weird Al plays his own damn instruments. Man, I never thought I'd defend that guy...
Wow, this is fucking stupid. As nice as it would be to live in a utopian society where everything was free, we don't so it isn't. Working musicians, musicians whose sole income is from their music, rely on that control to keep their van running, to keep their guitars strung, and to keep food on their table. It's complete bullshit to think that music should "belong to the public for the good of society". Music belongs to the creators. You know why? Because any good musician makes music for THEMSELVES. Anyone else that happens to like it is just along for the ride. To claim that the music that I make should belong to the public is fucking ludicrous. My music belongs to ME and nobody else.
It's not greed, it's personal. My music is my channel for aggression that keeps me from running around shooting morons like you.
There's a vast difference between a chord progression and a riff. Just playing notes in sequence means nothing. When you play something emulating another song, you're ripping it off. What everyone here is failing to remember is that there are laws against PLAGIARISM, Fair Use or not.
Small clips, IN MY OPINION, aren't enough for anyone to worry with. Drum hits, single notes, whatever. Entire beats, whole guitar parts, orchestra parts, MAJOR AMOUNTS of a song should be. I don't get the point of sampling other people's stuff to make your own as long as you're using half a damn song.
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I've said this several times in replies already. YOU made that choice. You decided that you need help, and you're trying to get it. My beef is with people that medicate their children simply to get them to behave like unthinking machines. I know people like this, and it pisses me off. Okay, maybe the office analogy was a bad one. Hell, it may even be that I truly don't know what ADD and ADHD are. The bullshit I've always been told was that it was characterised by a lack of ability to concentrate on any task for a given amount of time, general lack if interest in everything, and a tendency to not pay attention to anything. By that definition, *I* have ADHD. Granted, I also have the symptoms of autism, rickets, the black plague and being legally braindead, but that's the point I'm making here. ;) My cousin, for another example. He was diagnosed with ADD when he was maybe eight or nine years old. Several years later, he was CORRECTLY diagnosed as having a mild form of Tourettes. He had the symptoms of ADD, they treated it as ADD without going any further.
Sorry if I pissed you off, dude. It wasn't my intention to sound like I look down on people that have real, serious, problems and make a choice to seek help. It WAS my intention to sound like I'm pissed at the ignorance of people that medicate children for no good reason.
Taking medication voluntarily is just like choosing what car to drive, what shoes to wear, or what house to buy. It's all personal preference. I know people have problems. I know people that HAVE real problems. I went to school with a guy that peeled his fingernails off for fun in class one day. Another guy I knew sat beside me stabbing the back of his hand with a thumbtack for the better part of an hour. The most fucked up thing is that despite this, neither one were medicated AFAIK. And this was not the extent of the shit they did, believe me.
After reading one post I have made on a public forum, you have diagnosed me as a dysfunctional psychopath. Let me put it to you like this... I don't give a fuck what you think. In turn, you shouldn't give a fuck what I think. However, I give a fuck what you think insofar as I may find your opinion to be interesting and insightful. The way I see it, there are far more shades of gray than there are colors. Don't assume anything about me, and I won't assume anything about you. Now, can we restart this conversation?
*I* want to take this little pill everyday so that I can act the way I want to. Without it, I can't.
There you go. The way YOU want to feel. If YOU think you need medication, go for it. I'm not ostracizing every person that takes medication. I'm stating that making children take medication to get them to act a certain way is something that needs to be done with quite a bit more caution than is currently displayed. I would not dare to say whether you are right or wrong for making the choice to take medication to help your problems. That's your business, that's your choice.
If everything you said is true (I don't doubt that it is, BTW), then it was YOU that made the decision that without help you can't function the way you want to. At some point you have to ignore what everyone else says, cut through the bullshit, and deal with your problems in your own way. I managed to do this without medication. I came to the realization that the problems I had were indeed all in my head. The people beating the shit out of me, the bad grades, the fact that nobody I knew gave two shits whether I lived or died. I finally realized that ultimately, *I* was the problem, that there was nothing physically or physiologically wrong with me, and that I just needed to pull my head out of my ass and get on with it. Some people have real problems. You seem to have very real, very self-destructive problems. The good thing is that you know this and you want to do something about it. It might not seem this way from my previous statements, but however you choose to deal with those problems is fine with me. If you feel medication is neccesary, then it is. My problem is not with medication. My problem is with people that are forced to take medication to conform with an uncaring parents wishes for an easy to deal with child. I'm sorry if I have offended you. People seem to always assume the worst about everything I say, about everything everyone says. In truth, I support anything you want to do as long as you make the choice. I really hope that you can pull everything together one day.
But the way that ADD and ADHD are treated, it's like saying that anyone who has more than two beers a day is automaticaly an alcoholic. If you act like foo, you are bar. I don't think anyone is saying these disorders aren't real, just that they're overdiagnosed.
I don't beg. I don't con. Hell, I haven't even borrowed money from anyone. I don't damage people or their stuff, and I don't keep my neighbors up until 3AM. I am completely fine with doing what I do. I am a guitar tech. I love guitars, and have no interest whatsoever in having any kind of job not related to them. I see this as no different than someone who has no interest having a job not related to computers. One person is a good programmer, another a good secretary, another a good teacher, andother a good guitar tech. We all have our roles. I just know mine a bit better than most people.
Thank you for assuming that since I haven't experienced something personally, I don't know a fucking thing about it. I knew kids in school that were like robots. One girl in particular, the first person I knew of with ADD (although she'd probably get smacked with ADHD now since she was hyper as holy hell) was put on Ritalin and it made all the difference in the world. She went from being a normal, if a bit wired kid (we were both 8, BTW) to being... something else. She never seemed quite right after she was put on Ritalin. If Futurama was around then, I'd have been reminded of those brain-sucking things that attached themselves to Hermes' head. Yes, ADD and ADHD are real disorders, but how many of the people diagnosed ACTUALLY HAVE those disorders? The symptoms read to me like a description of every ninja-loving, comic-book reading, sugar-eating kid I've ever know, including myself. I'm not questioning whether or not these disorders exist, it's obvious they do, I'm questioning whether even one tenth of the people diagnosed with it actually have a problem or are in reality just kids being kids. And I have never heard of anyone fearing for their lives because of someone with ADHD. Inability to control violent tendencies speaks to a much more deep seated psychological (or physiological) problem, but then agan IANAPhD or MD.
Damn straight. I have not been diagnosed as having ADHD, but I guarantee you that if I went to see any doctor they would in fact shove Ritalin down my throat. I don't like to do anything for very long, I tend to let my mind wander all over the place, I don't sit still, I basically act weird... DOPE ME UP! Whatever doctor put a 5 year old on Ritalin should be... whatever the doctor equivalent of disbarred is... can't remember the term... he should have his ass kicked, anyway. ;) At 5, the brain simply does no function the way that it will later in life. I would not be surprised to see, 10-15 years from now, a generation of kids that were on Ritalin from the time they were 5 until they were out of high school and as a result are either hopelessly addicted to it, or even worse, whose brains simply don't function correctly without having that extra 'correction'.
I thought that after a certain age, Ritalin had the same effects as methamphetamine since that's what it is, basically. There's no damn way I would EVER feed myself pills to conform to someone else's idea of how I should act. Not Ritalin, not Prozac, none of this bullshit whose sole purpose is to make me act like a fucking robot. I'm a hyperactive little bastard. If I'm not doing something I like, then I get very agitated and don't want to do it. This is THE WAY THAT PEOPLE FUNCTION. This is not a disorder, this is simply acting the way you want to. Excuse me going off like this in what should be a fairly serious topic. There are people that actually do have disorders that prevent them from concentrating, etc, but at what point does the exception become the norm? Besides, who's worse off? Those that jump up and go running around the office shooting paperclips at each other because it seemed like fun, or those that never have done that and never will because the medications they're on supresses any urge to do anything ever.
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I'll get off the soapbox now.
Like it isn't a walking bitch-slap to the American people already.
But the word in question has many different uses in many different places. It's used in a perjorative sense in England, Scotland, Ireland, and all those other countries that have really cool accents. It's the inverse of calling someone a dick, as it were. ;)
DO they have a more substantial claim? If they had come out, shown some proof, and not gone insane threatening everyone that's ever used Linux, you'd probably see a lot of support from here. But they didn't. Instead they offer absolutely no proof, fire off letters basically telling everyone that uses Linux that they're software pirates, and now they're trying to exert control over code that other companies developed. When you pull bullshit stunts like this, you're going to get called on it.
I'm glad compilers aren't that terse. Think you could split hairs just a wee bit more there?
From the GPL, section 3:
If distribution of executable or object code is made by offering access to copy from a designated place, then offering equivalent access to copy the source code from the same place counts as distribution of the source code, even though third parties are not compelled to copy the source along with the object code.
Unless they modified the source for your software, they don't have to distribute it. Would you prefer that Linksys start their own distribution site, possibly with outdated versions of your software, to distribute code that is easily available directly from you? I agree that there should be a note or something in the back of the manual stating what software the router runs on and, if applicable, where to obtain it. According to the GPL, if I'm reading it correctly, an alternative to distributing the code yourself is stating where the code can be obtained (assuming no modification).
I guess none of you have considered that possibly the source for the Linux kernel, as well as whatever else they're using, HASN'T BEEN MODIFIED. No modification, no release neccesary. Whatever they add on top of it does NOT become GPL unless THEY LICENSE IT UNDER THE GPL. Just because something runs on Linux DOES NOT MAKE IT OPEN SOURCE. Just because something contains Linux code does not mean you get the source. Tough shit.
Metric complicated? Bullshit. Divide by ten. What's so hard about that? Now Imperial measurements, that's a bitch. All those 64ths and 9/16ths... a real PITA. Last year I worked setting up guitars and everything was done in metric. Has me wondering why the fuck the US isn't on board.
AFAIK, American anti-trust laws don't extend to how a business conducts itself overseas. Then again, I could be wrong.
No, they don't. The artists decide what goes into liner notes most of the time, and most bands I know of hire people that have nothing to do with their record label to put them together.
Yeah, but they're deflected easily by two little words... BLOW ME. ;)
It's damned easy to find the end of code blocks. There's these handy little things called comments. You can put them anyplace in your code. You can use them as bookmarks, and you can even write handy little notes for yourself and others to help you remember what the program does at a later time. Neat, huh?
I use tabs and haven't ever had a problem reading Python code, even complex programs written by others. Does the absence of a } really throw you off so much you can't read? Gimme a break, dude.
No, dipshit, it is a well known FACT that 60% of the web servers out there run Apache on Linux.
What's the difference between AIX and Redhat? Between Solaris and Suse? What is so damned different that it's worth all this pointless bitching? Don't give me the maturity bullshit. That means nothing. Whether the code is two months old or 20 years old, the important thing is how well it is written. Does code suddenly get better after just sitting around a few years? I didn't think so. Stability? Don't think so either. 60% of the internet that runs Linux along with Apache might not agree.
IMO, the only difference is that it's just another thing for stuck-up assholes to whine like little girls about. Get the fuck over it.
Fine then. ALL samples should be cleared and paid for. If you're such a shitty musician that you can't play a fucking guitar yourself, you shouldn't be allowed to run a sampler either. If it's so damned unrecognisable, what's the point in the first place?
And at least Weird Al plays his own damn instruments. Man, I never thought I'd defend that guy...
Wow, this is fucking stupid. As nice as it would be to live in a utopian society where everything was free, we don't so it isn't. Working musicians, musicians whose sole income is from their music, rely on that control to keep their van running, to keep their guitars strung, and to keep food on their table. It's complete bullshit to think that music should "belong to the public for the good of society". Music belongs to the creators. You know why? Because any good musician makes music for THEMSELVES. Anyone else that happens to like it is just along for the ride. To claim that the music that I make should belong to the public is fucking ludicrous. My music belongs to ME and nobody else.
It's not greed, it's personal. My music is my channel for aggression that keeps me from running around shooting morons like you.
There's a vast difference between a chord progression and a riff. Just playing notes in sequence means nothing. When you play something emulating another song, you're ripping it off. What everyone here is failing to remember is that there are laws against PLAGIARISM, Fair Use or not.
Small clips, IN MY OPINION, aren't enough for anyone to worry with. Drum hits, single notes, whatever. Entire beats, whole guitar parts, orchestra parts, MAJOR AMOUNTS of a song should be. I don't get the point of sampling other people's stuff to make your own as long as you're using half a damn song.