I stopped trying to download Mp3s months ago, the only stuff that was available was stuff released in the last 6 months or so, and it was just plain easier to stick a half dozen good streaming radio stations in Winamp and listen to that. I still have a small list of Mp3s so that I can listen to a few songs I really like that don't get radio play, but now for the most part I use p2p to pirate movies so I don't have to shell out cash to the damn DVD consortium.
I wish Kazaa would go OSS so that Gnutella clients could add the ability to download the same file from multiple people at once and stick it all together at the end... If anyone knows of a gnutella client that does that let me know, because I much prefer the gnutella network to the Kazaa one but I prefer the Kazaa client because I can get decent speeds all the time, even if it's from 9 guys with 56k modems.
Assuming that the volunteers have any motivation to do so... I don't understand a lot of the rabid OSS proponents screaming about how ALL software should be free, it just doesn't make sense. If I'm willing to pay someone else to write me a program that does what I want, then that's my business, I should have that option. OSS is wonderful, I love it, it's great, but if I have a need that isn't being met by the OSS community and I would rather spend my time studying Martial Arts and posting to Slashdot than learning to program at a sufficiently competent level to do what I want then why should I not shell out 50$ for someone else to spend the time doing what I need? There is a place for nonfree-as-in-beer software just as there is occasionaly a place for nonfree-as-in-speech software.
And as an aside regarding the previous poster I replied to, if his company is making money by selling software to people, and they switch to giving the software away then they don't really have an income stream anymore, do they?
Sooo... You're saying that if the software that the company writes is something that is complicated enough that a bunch of volunteers CAN'T come up with it that it's ok for them to charge for it? Well, I'm pretty sure that fits under the definition of 'Not all software should be free' and 'Not all software should be commercial'. So you posted a somewhat inflamatory set of paragraphs which essentially attempted to flame the previous poster while agreeing with what he said. Wow, you're clever.
Just wanna give a little HELL YEAH, and ask you to e-mail me, I know a great website you should visit, but if I post the link here we'll end up with more ppl posting trollish pics on it and other crap. My above e-mail is correct.
Kintanon
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How many toddlers do you see walking around on train tracks, in the subway, etc... unattended? Any child that got killed like that would involve the parents being arrested for negligence.
At the most extreme end of it I'll set up a nice video camera in front of my tv and record whatever I want. and a plug straight from my headphone jack to the microphone port on my pc seems like it would do just as well. As long as the information is human readable at some point then someone will be able to extract it.
And now you go on and make the assumption that I will someday have children, that the automatic desirable condition is one in which I possess children. I am afraid you are incorrect. I do not desire any children and my wife and I have taken the necessary medical steps to insure that we don't have any. Children are not necessarily noncombatants, the vietnamese used children to deliver bombs to enemy troops primarily because the children were 'harmless'. Personally I don't think ANYONE should ever be shot at under ideal circumstances. But the relative value of a child versus an adult isn't part of my evaluation and shouldn't be part of anyones. Humanity is humanity. Oh, and you are hopelessly naive if you think children are innocent. All children are inherently evil (where evil is defined by being completely self centered, selfish, and self absorbed). IF you leave 5 2 year olds in a room together they will all be fighting inside 10 minutes. The ability to function in society as a polite and courteous human being is a learned one, and a lot of parents aren't teaching their kids anything. Most of the young children I see today not only have fouler mouths than I do, but will actively torture each other to extremes I never saw until high school. I've seen kindergarteners kicking the CRAP out of a kid because he had on the wrong colored shirt. And yet everyone always claims that their child is innocent and precious, well you're all wrong. You're kid is just as much of an asshole as the rest of them until you train them out of it. Not the school, not their friends, not the church, not TV, not video games, not music, it's up to you to make sure the little hellbeast turns into some kind of presentable human approximate that has respect for the people around him.
(note: The above rant was not directed specifically at you El Camino, but directed at the general population of pro-natalist bastards that believe being a child automatically makes you better than everyone else and capable of doing no wrong)
Lemme introduce you to some cheerleaders I know, they'll show you that the level of athelticism required in college cheerleading and in the higher level high school cheerleading is at least as high as that necessary for playing Football. It's on par with things like ballet and the martial arts. The inequality between cheerleaders and the ppl they cheer for is only a percieved one that exists mostly in the minds of people like you apparently. I see most cheerleaders as being the athletic equal to the people they cheer, just prettier.>:)
Why make the distinction that 2000 of the were children? Are they somehow more important than the 8000 adults? Why not just leave it at 10 thousand people? Or mention how many women and men were also killed? It's not like the children are any more important than anyone else.
This has gotten me so mad I need to go blow ppl up, Quake time!
Because story innovation isn't the motivator for Carmack either. He likes to code. He likes to code FPS games. So that's what he does. The money is a byproduct which allows him to continue coding whatever he wants.
I have crashed Gauntlet Legends on the N64, repeatedly and reliably. I can reproduce the bug at will. Just throw a potion on a screen where there is already a potion and you get some kind of divide by 0 error or something and the game crashes. I've done it dozens of times.
As cold and heartless as it might seem I don't place the life of that 13 year old girl any higher than the lives of the other people on the plane. If she dies, and I die, and it saves the lives of everyone else on the plane then it was worth it.
As for knowing or not knowing what will happen next, I always assume the hi-jackers mean to kill everyone in the plane. Otherwise they would have bought a regular fucking ticket like everyone else.
I would never EVER let someone wielding a bladed weapon hi-jack an airplane. If they have to get close to me to take me out then it gives me a fighting chance, and in my opinion it would be worth the risk, if I can take out eve one of the hi-jackers maybe the other passengers will have the balls to attack as well. There is no way 3 or 4 hijackers can take on 20 or 30 passengers if they only have bladed weapons.
Then your friend's friend sucks at chess. Even I can beat Chessmaster 3000 on a pretty regular basis and I'm nowhere near grandmaster level. I've been playing the game since I was 5 years old, and I'm good, maybe even excellent at it. But I don't even approach the level of Kasparov or Fischer. Most chess playing programs that will run on a PC are mindlessly easy to beat.
Rumors about software shops closing circulate through Sierra about once every 2 months, so everyone figured that it was just another rumor. Tribes 2 has been doing well, no more complaints than normal about it really... So there was no reason for anyone to believe that this rumor was true. Sierra screwed with them a little bit pushing deadlines around, but not to the degree that anyone was worried about the place being shut down.
God also gave me the power to become a postal employee, buy a gun, and shoot up the neighborhood. But that doesn't make it ok.
Number of people who benefit from your scenario: 0
That makes it an obviously harmful action. I'd say that everyone can agree that it has no point or benefit.
Stem cell research on the otherhand has the potential to benefit millions. Which in my opinion is a good thing. For those of us who don't believe that a half dozen cells stuck together == a human this is a win/win situation.
Then God should have kept his toys in his yard, he gave us the power to perform these actions and the Free Will to choose when and where to use that power. It's our responsibility now, God isn't going to come hold our hands for the rest of eternity just because you're too scared to make a decision that would save a life. God created us and gave us free will for a reason, we may not know that reason yet, but it only makes sense to learn anything and everything about ourselves and the universe around us so that when that purpose becomes clear we're ready for it. So I say more stem cell research! More research of all kinds! Less closed minded semi-religious whining!
Kintanon
Info from Dyanmix Employee Pending:
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A good friend of mine works at Dynamix and was in fact the production manager for Tribes 2, he had NO IDEA that this was going to happen, apparently no one told the employees anything. So now he's out of work unless by some miracle he's one of the tiny handful of people that Sierra decides to keep on in some capacity. This is definately a bad thing for all involved...
I'll try to get in touch with him to get more info as soon as I can, he should be online sometime today.
People must command respect. They can't just expect people (even kids) to respect them simply because they're older. Many seem to have forgotten this basic truth of our instinctive culture.
None of the faculty from my old high school could get this through their heads no matter now many times I explained it. They would ask me why I didn't 'respect' my teachers, and when I replied that they hadn't done anything to earn my respect the shocked look I got back said a lot about what was going through my principals head at the time. Apparently young people are expected to respect the old simply for being old, that's just ludicrous. I respect my grandparents and my parents because they have seen and done things I haven't and can give me insight into how the world works that I haven't yet obtained for myself. My teachers were for the most part bitter, ignorant, and unwilling to accept anything that wasn't in their teachers guide. There were a few shining exceptions to this rule, as there always are.
But really, I can completely understand why teenagers have no respect for teachers and a lot of other older people, especially of the 25-35 range, a lot of that age group hasn't really done anything with their lives except work... And no one wants to hear someone bitch about how all they ever do is work...
So then, do you think that all police should be banned from the streets, unless there is a crime in progress? No policeman should be allowed to view you in public? Obviously, that's absurd. So please tell me the difference between a policeman observing you and a camera observing you giving more eyes to the police.
Ok, I can't take this anymore, you're an idiot! You're a flaming moron!
You answer your own bloody questions and then pretend you said something profound! Just shut the hell up already....
The difference between a cop glancing at me as I walk by and a Camera tracking my movements as I walk to the grocery store and back is the difference between Occasional monitoring and Constant monitoring. Most people don't mind if someone sees them in a public place, however they DO mind if said person then continues to follow them around all day while they go about their business. I know I would object to having some guy just follow behind me writing down everything I do. It would be annoying as hell! These cameras are the same thing, they aren't going to prevent any crime, they are just going to piss off innocent people.
Hell, I know if I was going to commit a crime in an area one of the first things I would do is wear a FUCKING MASK!! Then they can take their fucking cameras and shove them up their asses for all the good it will do them. A Trench coat and a ski mask will make their camera totally worthless and any self respecting criminal should wear one.
I'd probably carry some black spray paint around with me too, just to fuck with the cameras!
Recipe:
Mix Hammer, Mask and Ladder with adventurous spirit, apply Hammer to security cameras using ladder. Be sure to prevent identification by applying mask prior to hammer!
Serving Directions:
Serve cold in the late evenings, preferably around 4-5am when the cops are changing shifts.
I believe many of us work off of the assumption that if the person is committing the one crime (breaking and entering) then they will be willing and able to commit a more grievous crime (theft and assault), and then possibly a yet more serious crime (murder) in order to cover their tracks. I for one am not going to wait for them to get around to step 3. If they are in my home illegally I have to assume that they wish to kill me, in Georgia it's considered polite to give one warning shot before killing anyone who is in your home, a shouted warning that you have a gun is acceptable. So I imagine we would all warn the intruder first. But if they didn't get the hell out of my house right then I'd certinaly kill them.
I stopped trying to download Mp3s months ago, the only stuff that was available was stuff released in the last 6 months or so, and it was just plain easier to stick a half dozen good streaming radio stations in Winamp and listen to that. I still have a small list of Mp3s so that I can listen to a few songs I really like that don't get radio play, but now for the most part I use p2p to pirate movies so I don't have to shell out cash to the damn DVD consortium.
Kintanon
I wish Kazaa would go OSS so that Gnutella clients could add the ability to download the same file from multiple people at once and stick it all together at the end... If anyone knows of a gnutella client that does that let me know, because I much prefer the gnutella network to the Kazaa one but I prefer the Kazaa client because I can get decent speeds all the time, even if it's from 9 guys with 56k modems.
Kintanon
Assuming that the volunteers have any motivation to do so...
I don't understand a lot of the rabid OSS proponents screaming about how ALL software should be free, it just doesn't make sense. If I'm willing to pay someone else to write me a program that does what I want, then that's my business, I should have that option. OSS is wonderful, I love it, it's great, but if I have a need that isn't being met by the OSS community and I would rather spend my time studying Martial Arts and posting to Slashdot than learning to program at a sufficiently competent level to do what I want then why should I not shell out 50$ for someone else to spend the time doing what I need? There is a place for nonfree-as-in-beer software just as there is occasionaly a place for nonfree-as-in-speech software.
And as an aside regarding the previous poster I replied to, if his company is making money by selling software to people, and they switch to giving the software away then they don't really have an income stream anymore, do they?
Kintanon
Sooo... You're saying that if the software that the company writes is something that is complicated enough that a bunch of volunteers CAN'T come up with it that it's ok for them to charge for it?
Well, I'm pretty sure that fits under the definition of 'Not all software should be free' and 'Not all software should be commercial'. So you posted a somewhat inflamatory set of paragraphs which essentially attempted to flame the previous poster while agreeing with what he said. Wow, you're clever.
Kintanon
Just wanna give a little HELL YEAH, and ask you to e-mail me, I know a great website you should visit, but if I post the link here we'll end up with more ppl posting trollish pics on it and other crap. My above e-mail is correct.
Kintanon
How many toddlers do you see walking around on train tracks, in the subway, etc... unattended? Any child that got killed like that would involve the parents being arrested for negligence.
Kintanon
At the most extreme end of it I'll set up a nice video camera in front of my tv and record whatever I want. and a plug straight from my headphone jack to the microphone port on my pc seems like it would do just as well.
As long as the information is human readable at some point then someone will be able to extract it.
Kintanon
And now you go on and make the assumption that I will someday have children, that the automatic desirable condition is one in which I possess children. I am afraid you are incorrect. I do not desire any children and my wife and I have taken the necessary medical steps to insure that we don't have any.
Children are not necessarily noncombatants, the vietnamese used children to deliver bombs to enemy troops primarily because the children were 'harmless'.
Personally I don't think ANYONE should ever be shot at under ideal circumstances. But the relative value of a child versus an adult isn't part of my evaluation and shouldn't be part of anyones. Humanity is humanity.
Oh, and you are hopelessly naive if you think children are innocent. All children are inherently evil (where evil is defined by being completely self centered, selfish, and self absorbed). IF you leave 5 2 year olds in a room together they will all be fighting inside 10 minutes. The ability to function in society as a polite and courteous human being is a learned one, and a lot of parents aren't teaching their kids anything.
Most of the young children I see today not only have fouler mouths than I do, but will actively torture each other to extremes I never saw until high school. I've seen kindergarteners kicking the CRAP out of a kid because he had on the wrong colored shirt. And yet everyone always claims that their child is innocent and precious, well you're all wrong. You're kid is just as much of an asshole as the rest of them until you train them out of it. Not the school, not their friends, not the church, not TV, not video games, not music, it's up to you to make sure the little hellbeast turns into some kind of presentable human approximate that has respect for the people around him.
(note: The above rant was not directed specifically at you El Camino, but directed at the general population of pro-natalist bastards that believe being a child automatically makes you better than everyone else and capable of doing no wrong)
Kintanon
Lemme introduce you to some cheerleaders I know, they'll show you that the level of athelticism required in college cheerleading and in the higher level high school cheerleading is at least as high as that necessary for playing Football. It's on par with things like ballet and the martial arts. The inequality between cheerleaders and the ppl they cheer for is only a percieved one that exists mostly in the minds of people like you apparently. I see most cheerleaders as being the athletic equal to the people they cheer, just prettier.>:)
Kintanon
killed, 2,000 of them children."
Why make the distinction that 2000 of the were children? Are they somehow more important than the 8000 adults? Why not just leave it at 10 thousand people? Or mention how many women and men were also killed? It's not like the children are any more important than anyone else.
This has gotten me so mad I need to go blow ppl up, Quake time!
Kintanon
Because story innovation isn't the motivator for Carmack either. He likes to code. He likes to code FPS games. So that's what he does. The money is a byproduct which allows him to continue coding whatever he wants.
Kintanon
I have crashed Gauntlet Legends on the N64, repeatedly and reliably. I can reproduce the bug at will. Just throw a potion on a screen where there is already a potion and you get some kind of divide by 0 error or something and the game crashes. I've done it dozens of times.
Kintanon
You forgot to berserk it! You MUST Berserk the Ornithopter for optimal smackdown application!!!
Kintanon
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&frame=right& th=54ab4d241c34e0cc&seekm=3b8fd177%40monitor.lanse t.com
Read here, it looks like one of the hi-jackers might have been posting here. Very strange indeed.
Kintanon
As cold and heartless as it might seem I don't place the life of that 13 year old girl any higher than the lives of the other people on the plane. If she dies, and I die, and it saves the lives of everyone else on the plane then it was worth it.
As for knowing or not knowing what will happen next, I always assume the hi-jackers mean to kill everyone in the plane. Otherwise they would have bought a regular fucking ticket like everyone else.
Kintanon
Apparently the hijackers used knife-like weapons
I would never EVER let someone wielding a bladed weapon hi-jack an airplane. If they have to get close to me to take me out then it gives me a fighting chance, and in my opinion it would be worth the risk, if I can take out eve one of the hi-jackers maybe the other passengers will have the balls to attack as well. There is no way 3 or 4 hijackers can take on 20 or 30 passengers if they only have bladed weapons.
Kintanon
Then your friend's friend sucks at chess. Even I can beat Chessmaster 3000 on a pretty regular basis and I'm nowhere near grandmaster level. I've been playing the game since I was 5 years old, and I'm good, maybe even excellent at it. But I don't even approach the level of Kasparov or Fischer. Most chess playing programs that will run on a PC are mindlessly easy to beat.
Kintanon
Rumors about software shops closing circulate through Sierra about once every 2 months, so everyone figured that it was just another rumor. Tribes 2 has been doing well, no more complaints than normal about it really... So there was no reason for anyone to believe that this rumor was true. Sierra screwed with them a little bit pushing deadlines around, but not to the degree that anyone was worried about the place being shut down.
Kintanon
God also gave me the power to become a postal employee, buy a gun, and shoot up the neighborhood. But that doesn't make it ok.
Number of people who benefit from your scenario: 0
That makes it an obviously harmful action. I'd say that everyone can agree that it has no point or benefit.
Stem cell research on the otherhand has the potential to benefit millions. Which in my opinion is a good thing. For those of us who don't believe that a half dozen cells stuck together == a human this is a win/win situation.
Kintanon
Then God should have kept his toys in his yard, he gave us the power to perform these actions and the Free Will to choose when and where to use that power. It's our responsibility now, God isn't going to come hold our hands for the rest of eternity just because you're too scared to make a decision that would save a life. God created us and gave us free will for a reason, we may not know that reason yet, but it only makes sense to learn anything and everything about ourselves and the universe around us so that when that purpose becomes clear we're ready for it. So I say more stem cell research! More research of all kinds! Less closed minded semi-religious whining!
Kintanon
A good friend of mine works at Dynamix and was in fact the production manager for Tribes 2, he had NO IDEA that this was going to happen, apparently no one told the employees anything. So now he's out of work unless by some miracle he's one of the tiny handful of people that Sierra decides to keep on in some capacity. This is definately a bad thing for all involved...
I'll try to get in touch with him to get more info as soon as I can, he should be online sometime today.
Kintanon
People must command respect. They can't just expect people (even kids) to respect them simply because they're older. Many seem to have forgotten this basic truth of our instinctive culture.
None of the faculty from my old high school could get this through their heads no matter now many times I explained it. They would ask me why I didn't 'respect' my teachers, and when I replied that they hadn't done anything to earn my respect the shocked look I got back said a lot about what was going through my principals head at the time. Apparently young people are expected to respect the old simply for being old, that's just ludicrous. I respect my grandparents and my parents because they have seen and done things I haven't and can give me insight into how the world works that I haven't yet obtained for myself. My teachers were for the most part bitter, ignorant, and unwilling to accept anything that wasn't in their teachers guide. There were a few shining exceptions to this rule, as there always are.
But really, I can completely understand why teenagers have no respect for teachers and a lot of other older people, especially of the 25-35 range, a lot of that age group hasn't really done anything with their lives except work... And no one wants to hear someone bitch about how all they ever do is work...
Kintanon
So then, do you think that all police should be banned from the streets, unless there is a crime in progress? No policeman should be allowed to view you in public? Obviously, that's absurd. So please tell me the difference between a policeman observing you and a camera observing you giving more eyes to the police.
Ok, I can't take this anymore, you're an idiot! You're a flaming moron!
You answer your own bloody questions and then pretend you said something profound! Just shut the hell up already....
The difference between a cop glancing at me as I walk by and a Camera tracking my movements as I walk to the grocery store and back is the difference between Occasional monitoring and Constant monitoring. Most people don't mind if someone sees them in a public place, however they DO mind if said person then continues to follow them around all day while they go about their business. I know I would object to having some guy just follow behind me writing down everything I do. It would be annoying as hell! These cameras are the same thing, they aren't going to prevent any crime, they are just going to piss off innocent people.
Hell, I know if I was going to commit a crime in an area one of the first things I would do is wear a FUCKING MASK!! Then they can take their fucking cameras and shove them up their asses for all the good it will do them. A Trench coat and a ski mask will make their camera totally worthless and any self respecting criminal should wear one.
I'd probably carry some black spray paint around with me too, just to fuck with the cameras!
Kintanon
Ingrediants:
1 Ball Peen Hammer
1 Ski Mask
1 foldable aluminum ladder
1 Adventurous spirit
Security Cameras to taste
Recipe:
Mix Hammer, Mask and Ladder with adventurous spirit, apply Hammer to security cameras using ladder. Be sure to prevent identification by applying mask prior to hammer!
Serving Directions:
Serve cold in the late evenings, preferably around 4-5am when the cops are changing shifts.
Kintanon
I believe many of us work off of the assumption that if the person is committing the one crime (breaking and entering) then they will be willing and able to commit a more grievous crime (theft and assault), and then possibly a yet more serious crime (murder) in order to cover their tracks. I for one am not going to wait for them to get around to step 3. If they are in my home illegally I have to assume that they wish to kill me, in Georgia it's considered polite to give one warning shot before killing anyone who is in your home, a shouted warning that you have a gun is acceptable. So I imagine we would all warn the intruder first. But if they didn't get the hell out of my house right then I'd certinaly kill them.
Kintanon