The Catholic Church, and any branch of christianity in general has not been the most moral of religons as some may think. all one needs to do to prove this is look back at 17th and 18th century america, the burning times where anyone accused of being a witch was burned alive, or drouned, they didnt even have to be found giulty, cuz the method of trial was to kill them, if they didnt die, they were guitly and supposedly killed in another manner. this trend goes even further back all the way back to chauncer in england, 1400's once christianity took hold in the uk, they immedently killed all of those who wouldnt convert proclaming them heritcts. only recently (read 1980 sompthing) did the pope appologize to the wiccan religon for the hundreds of years of persecution the delt out. and this apology wasnt even public, but thats beside the point. Every branch of humanity has become horribly inhumane at some point, and alot of it has yet to be appologized for, does this make it right that we do it no? is it right no one realizes it? no does it make people feel better? yes
i agree with you, but your fundementaly wrong on one point. most non/.'ers who atleast have some expirence on comps know quite well what mozilla is, but its a huge download for dial-up users, and a sizable one for bb users. Windows out of the box comes with a browser (internet explorer) that works quite well without haveing to download anything, and it accualy doesnt do a bad job. so joe schmoe figures why download 26Mb of mozilla just to have tabbed browsing. unlike Aol or MS, mozilla doesnt have free distribution media, if you want it you have to download it. If Mozilla came bundled w/ windows along with IE, which do you think would be used more, reguardless of advertising? or if you could pick up a free "mozilla coaster" all shrinkwraped from walmart for free, how many more mozilla users would there be? my guess would be lots.
wrighting new code? bullshit sueing IBM? yes atempting to deface linux throught leagal bullshit? yes scaring the hell out of small and mid size tech companies? yes
so what does the first require? coders what do the other three require? lawyers
and what happens if all the coders quit? sco has more money to spend on MORE lawyers, to cause even MORE trouble, so if you ask me, there doing us a favor by NOT quitting, and there getting a free ride untill SCO sinks itself, and ill bet you most of the employees have already scoped out other jobs in the feild, for when SCO does go under, like they know it will. thats just my $0.02
why is this?
because of the stupidity, and restrictive ness of modern copyrights. any patent/copyright scheme which lets you copyright a generic idea is stupid. if you can patent the idea of a bicycle, im aganst it, now different models and makes, innovations on concepts are ok, but creative freedom and a good economy depend on being able to expand on a general idea without having to pay royalties.
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just because a computer needs to be rebooted doesnt mean its a software problem, hardware can glicth under changing electromagnetic fields, theres all kinds of minute emf that could cause a certin circut to glitch resulting in a higher or lower voltage than expected, and if this computer happend to be running a 3 like program
lable a print "die enemy scum!" goto a
it might still glitch. now im not condoning that an adverage reboot time of 26 seconds per flight is a GOOD thing, just mearly stating that no peice of hardware/software combo will run forever, nomatter how well coded, and manufactured, even with 100% matnience. at somepoint, it will segfault due to some unexpected interference.
first of all, kazaa can use any port to communicate on, including port 80, so unless your willing to block all net access, even to browsers, you cant stop kazaa, second your way off topic from the freebsd ports that were talking about.
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ok, ill be the smart ass then, heres the WIndows XP Pro eula in full:
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as eli
well might i suggest alcohol, or thc, if legal in your area, coding while drunk (not piss drunk) or stoned (not trippin off your ass) can b fun, and you can accualy come up with some pretty intresting work arounds, just be sure to comment the hell out of your code, so you can figure out later what the fuck you were doing. and another plus is once you start codeing, while un-sober, a few clicks seems like too much work, its much easier to just position your wireless keyboard in a comftrable position, sit back and let the code flow. mice + drugs dont mix.
i agree along with the other reply to this post.
the statment "
If coca-cola brings out a new drink, i do a chemical analysis on it and duplicate it, then bring it out at half the price in a remarkably similar bottle, i'd get sued to death. I don't see why people think the software world should work differently. I'm not saying MS should shut linux down or anything, i just think people should stop thinking there's something "heroic" about making open-source software, while microsoft must be "evil" because they want money for the things they make.
what open source is is noticing coke has put out a new product, creating a competing product with a remarkable simmilar taste, and giving it away for free without the fancy packaging, all while having no clue whats in coke's product.
i seem to recall burger king's advertising campaign that there fries taste just like mc donnelds, they didnt get sued, and look at the myrid of products out there that clone brand name producta, and alot of them accualy are half way decent clones, none of them have ever been sued, so i dont see why the soft ware industry should be any different.
the fine comment says that microsoft will do anything it can to hurt / destroy linux. linux is 2nd on MS's list of "bad things" right behind this aleing economy. What MS is doing is basicaly 2 things, redirecting SCO's comment that not even microsoft is safe, by pointing back at linux, causing more FUD for linux, and setting them selves up to assure the destruction of their #2 threat all while making themselves look like the good guys to the unwitting customers. There also averting the attention of customers from the news that there considering charging for patches and service packs. it seems that that one simple, free statment, has earned MS alot of credibility in the eyes of unwitting consumers and PHB's, while damaging there enemies.
Fine Comment in MS Press Release: ps: you all owe us your souls!
alright this proves it all this SCO FUD is really a conspiricy by MS to kill out favorite penguin. Well its time for Tux to kick some ass, break out his rocket launcher, and go Q3 on Bill's ass. And once Tux has gibbed the hell out of bill, its time to move onto those stupid sco exec's and soon there after the pesky riaa! i can just see the headlines now, killer penguin to promote the worlds best (and only) operation system, free of charge to all users. well now that we all conclusivly know that MS is behind all the FUD, we can get on with our lives while tux goes on his fragging spree... (anyone up for making a Q3 mod, player = tux, kill bill, at sco's head quarters, and maby throw in the riaa and metallica too!)
ok i hate to do this, but i love google so heres my angry flame along with the other 1billion posted here.
<FlameOn!>
googlehole #1. the search subjects were intentionaly broad, and in todays modern world if you seacrh for just a product, odds are your looking to buy it, so what does google do? it provides a mirad of links to retailers. if you intended to find product specs try doing a search for "blah produck specs"! wow i got 300 pages of product reviews!!!
googlehole#2. skewed synynoms. ok so i searched for "apple" im online, apple is the worlds 2nd largest computer retailer, i wonder why i got 100+ pages relevent to apple! im online! anyone see a technological link here? your on the inter net, i want an apple. try "apple fruit" or "apple -computer" duh!
googlehole#3. book learning, ok so i want some information, i goto google and do a search on it, i dont see any books here! whats going on, well what the fuck did you msn fuck heads expect, books to pop out of your computer screen, research on the internet is ment as an additive to library research. i would imagin if google did start displaying books in pdf format the publishers would go on an riaa sueing spree! the newyour times "closed archives" isnt googles fault, it is the direct result of an action by the nyt, CLOSING THEIR ARCHIVES! and besides if i wanted news, news.google.bom works great! thats probably 50% of the reason they put it up!
finally if a "group mind doesnt speak for everybody, it does speak for the majority of the groop. an important idea to remember in customer services if that you cant please everyone all the time, but you can please most most of the time!" which is exactly what google does! by the logic of a group mind, the people who use the web orginize it how they like, google searches the web to turn up the most relevent results to this "group mind", well if this group mind involves most the web users, wouldnt that be who google's targeting? google seems kinda like a democracy, what msn's article is trying to state is that. "google sucks because it cant read your mind, and orginize the web for you the way you want it"
and let us not forget that msn is trying to push the popularity of their search engin over that of speficaly google!
most, if not all of these "googleholes" can be overcome by using sensable searches for topics. the problem is not google, or even the webs orginization, its simply that some users and the author of this article do not understand how to perform a search!
all i see in this article is a short winded "msn is better because we said so, and now were gonna bash google to prove it" bullshit article!
im not posting ac, and id like to hear any arguments aganst my opinion, just dont/. my inbox! lol
no i did, back in 1985, im sueing, you SCO goons watch out, i got my IP leagal team digging up shit on you from back in the days of calendra... oh wait damn IBM beat me to it! well ill just sue them over intelectual rights aswell!!
taken from the mirror: http://www.yukon.curvedspaces.com/s.htm
warning mirror has pop-ups! unpreventable, the host forces them.
11. Defendant, RICHARD C. TIETJENS a/k/a MORLEY DOTES, (hereinafter
referred to a "TlETJENS") is an individual and is believed to be a
resident and domiciliary of the State of Oregon. TIETJENS is sui juris
before this Court. Plaintiff is informed and believes that BROWER is an
officer, director and principal of SPAMHAUS and SPEWS.
Richard Tietjens is not an officer, director or principal of Spamhaus.
Spamhaus categorically does not believe Richard Tietjens is or ever has been an officer, director or principal of SPEWS.
12. Defendant, ADAM BROWER, (hereinafter referred to a "BROWER") is an
individual and is believed to be a resident and domiciliary of the State
of Illinois. BROWER is sui juris before this Court. Plaintiff is
informed and believes that BROWER is an officer, director and principal
of SPAMHAUS and SPEWS.
easiest way i could see of doing it would be getting a *untainted* copy of the version of the software/kernel SCO claims was ripped off, md5 it, compild the source SCO presents with the code that IBM ripped of, MD5 it, are the md5's the same? if yes = software/kernel does have SCO's shit in it, if no SCO's in alot of shit for purgery and more!
ENV flame="on"
"Exactly, the fact they aren't prepared to even present a single example of this makes me very suspicious."
Ummm, they said they are prepared to present examples in court.
So are you less suspicious now?
In court, behind closed doors, if the code has found its way into any OPEN SOURCE software, obvisouly many people will have access to it, so its now worthless to keep it a secret, its not, revel the problem lines of code, if the Linux user community makes changes to the offending program, then thats self implication! if not, well its still right there for anyone to read!
"It would be magnitudes easier for SCO devels to steal code from the Linux kernel (even unintentionally) than for the Linux kernel to steal code from SCO. "
SCO had a working relationship with IBM on the Monterey project. Obviously IBM then had access to SCO source. SCO is now claiming persons within IBM took said access to SCO source and used it in some Linux component.
yes, and linux is all open source, meaning ANYONE has access to the code, including those SCO goones, only a FEW people at IBM had access to SCO's UnixWare code, making it FAR less likely it was leaked. "Anyhow, as some have already mentioned, who's to say that the code lines in question weren't already in the public domain prior to them even being in SCO?"
The Judge at the court hearing. Only if he was paid off by an unnamed company which owns the rights to UnixWare, called SCO, oops, that sliped... "I'm doubling-down on IBM if they want to play a chicken-and-the-egg fight in this suit."
I'll take a bet that IBM settles the case out of court. i got $100 here that says SCO either gets laughed out of court, trys to delay the hearing, looses, and retries the case on a techinacality, or simply gets smashed into 1986 by IBM.
well just from my point of view, and im not trying to be a troll, i love linux, is that linux isnt an os, and linux needs to be an os. most home users and windo-aholics are user to kernel+gui+few needed shell apps=os. linux is the kernel, gnu is a huge set of open source software for the linux kernel, so some smart guy said lets put the two togeather, this was good, to an extent. Some one, hopefully linus himself will realize the need for an accual "linux" gui and shell. As in a gui that interacts better and intigrates better with the kernel, because it was coded by the same guy/group! a shell that is powerful, and a breaze to use, that can do everything the gui can do because it was coded by the same guy/group. I know this is alot to expect one person to do, but instead of adding milloions of new features to the kernel, which has more than enough for most users *currently* why not get a stable kernel, and start working on the REST of the os? then in a few years when more hardware comes out, and new features NEED to be implimented, they work on the kernel some more. this is what sets desktops apart from servers. Desktops need to be standardizied, servers need to be stable and 100% compatable with all the new goodies on the market. thats just my $.02, and i dont mean to offend anyone, cuz i do love linux, this is just what i see it needs in order to become a desktop OS. options arnt the issue. look at windows, i could use the windows cd burner, nero, roxio easy coaster creater, blindwrite wuite, etc..., but all these arnt bundles with the os... and i can still use litestep, blackbox, cloud9, openbox, etc on windows, but it defauls to One choice. thats the problem that confuses n00bs, more choices at install time=more confusion. Set a defauls, install bash etc, option:kde/gnome... option:mozilla/netscape/someotherl337browser... option: windowmaker/litestep/enlightenment/etc (with explination and screenshots)... let users decide some stuff, but dont include a cd-burner on the install cd's, or a cool game, just because you can, if you would like to provide these features, leave a txt document explaining the place on your servers where these apps can be found, and instructions on how to install, or if you really must include an "extras" cd, that should NEVER be asked for at install time, with a nice GUI for locating and installing software on the disc. say a nice freshmeat.net looking gui which queries the disc (and possibly your servers) looking for the queried topic, lists them to the user with a simple discription, and pretty screen shots, etc. and allows the user to install them right from there... and one last thing, a standardizied menu, i still am more than confused when i install a great new app from freshmeat, and look in all the menu's, of course its not there, so i goto/usr/bin, not there, so/usr/local/bin, hrm not there either, oh i know, it was a game, so ill goto/use/local/games, hrm not there, i know it must be somewhere, find -f, wait how the fuck do i use find again, locate coolprogram, uhg rebuilddb... wait... locate coolprogram... results.. oh ofcourse/usr/games!!! i shoulda guessed!!!... maby we could simplify things a little....? i mean i have no problem finding my way around, getting shit done, its just to n00bs, this could be more than frustrating. its outright horriyifing, considering 1/2 of the people i know thought they could permently damage the HARDWARE in their computer by changing an option in their WEB BROWSER or some other non-critical program. this is just my point of view. let me know what u think... </rant>
the truth about the whole DSL vs Cable war is this, if your looking at broadband, and are unsure which way to go, dont go online on/. or any other source and read about it (sure its not a bad idea, but dont base your decision on it.) the only real way to tell which is best for you is to ask friends and neighbors in your area how their services compare, and pick the one that seems the best. not only that but make a few calls to the help desk's ask some questions, etc... pick the service your most satisfied with, because in reality, every service is different. the godlike 10Mb cable service from maine might only deliver a whoping 128k in New York. so its left yet again for the consumer to decide which is best!
maby they wont modify the kernel... just a guess, but couldnt wmp be provided sepratly from the kernel on the embedded system? i dont know much about embedded systems, and i hate windows media player, but thats just my $0.02
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The Catholic Church, and any branch of christianity in general has not been the most moral of religons as some may think. all one needs to do to prove this is look back at 17th and 18th century america, the burning times where anyone accused of being a witch was burned alive, or drouned, they didnt even have to be found giulty, cuz the method of trial was to kill them, if they didnt die, they were guitly and supposedly killed in another manner. this trend goes even further back all the way back to chauncer in england, 1400's once christianity took hold in the uk, they immedently killed all of those who wouldnt convert proclaming them heritcts. only recently (read 1980 sompthing) did the pope appologize to the wiccan religon for the hundreds of years of persecution the delt out. and this apology wasnt even public, but thats beside the point. Every branch of humanity has become horribly inhumane at some point, and alot of it has yet to be appologized for, does this make it right that we do it no? is it right no one realizes it? no does it make people feel better? yes
i agree with you, but your fundementaly wrong on one point. most non /.'ers who atleast have some expirence on comps know quite well what mozilla is, but its a huge download for dial-up users, and a sizable one for bb users. Windows out of the box comes with a browser (internet explorer) that works quite well without haveing to download anything, and it accualy doesnt do a bad job. so joe schmoe figures why download 26Mb of mozilla just to have tabbed browsing. unlike Aol or MS, mozilla doesnt have free distribution media, if you want it you have to download it. If Mozilla came bundled w/ windows along with IE, which do you think would be used more, reguardless of advertising? or if you could pick up a free "mozilla coaster" all shrinkwraped from walmart for free, how many more mozilla users would there be? my guess would be lots.
so lets looks at this, what exactly is SCO doing?
wrighting new code? bullshit
sueing IBM? yes
atempting to deface linux throught leagal bullshit? yes
scaring the hell out of small and mid size tech companies? yes
so what does the first require? coders
what do the other three require? lawyers
and what happens if all the coders quit? sco has more money to spend on MORE lawyers, to cause even MORE trouble, so if you ask me, there doing us a favor by NOT quitting, and there getting a free ride untill SCO sinks itself, and ill bet you most of the employees have already scoped out other jobs in the feild, for when SCO does go under, like they know it will. thats just my $0.02
This article simply isnt true, i still have my pr0n archive from 2000 backed up on cd, and its all right...
OH NO!!! My pr0n! My precious Precious pr0n!!! Damn cheep cd's!!!
i do, its calles endluser.exe, deleate it atonce, because its a virus included with microsoft at the time of purchase!
why is this? because of the stupidity, and restrictive ness of modern copyrights. any patent/copyright scheme which lets you copyright a generic idea is stupid. if you can patent the idea of a bicycle, im aganst it, now different models and makes, innovations on concepts are ok, but creative freedom and a good economy depend on being able to expand on a general idea without having to pay royalties.
just because a computer needs to be rebooted doesnt mean its a software problem, hardware can glicth under changing electromagnetic fields, theres all kinds of minute emf that could cause a certin circut to glitch resulting in a higher or lower voltage than expected, and if this computer happend to be running a 3 like program
lable a
print "die enemy scum!"
goto a
it might still glitch. now im not condoning that an adverage reboot time of 26 seconds per flight is a GOOD thing, just mearly stating that no peice of hardware/software combo will run forever, nomatter how well coded, and manufactured, even with 100% matnience. at somepoint, it will segfault due to some unexpected interference.
first of all, kazaa can use any port to communicate on, including port 80, so unless your willing to block all net access, even to browsers, you cant stop kazaa, second your way off topic from the freebsd ports that were talking about. thanks for shopping at /. please come again.
the rpm based distros do have an rpm based apt-get, get it from rpmfind.net, search for apt :P
Shhhh, you'll foil his plot, for you see if the RIAA discovers the truth, they'll leake it to the media, and he can do no good for the p2p community!!
ok, ill be the smart ass then, heres the WIndows XP Pro eula in full:
Microsoft Windows XP Professional
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Corporation for the Microsoft software product identified above,
which includes computer software and may include associated
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and Internet-based services ("Product"). An amendment or
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single Workstation Computer. You may permit a maximum
of ten (10) computers or other electronic devices (each
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Print services, Internet Information Services, and remote
access (including connection sharing and telephony
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software or hardware which pools or aggregates
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NetMeeting, Remote Assistance, and Remote Desktop
features described below, you may not use the Product
to permit any Device to use, access, display or run other
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well might i suggest alcohol, or thc, if legal in your area, coding while drunk (not piss drunk) or stoned (not trippin off your ass) can b fun, and you can accualy come up with some pretty intresting work arounds, just be sure to comment the hell out of your code, so you can figure out later what the fuck you were doing. and another plus is once you start codeing, while un-sober, a few clicks seems like too much work, its much easier to just position your wireless keyboard in a comftrable position, sit back and let the code flow. mice + drugs dont mix.
i agree along with the other reply to this post. the statment "
If coca-cola brings out a new drink, i do a chemical analysis on it and duplicate it, then bring it out at half the price in a remarkably similar bottle, i'd get sued to death. I don't see why people think the software world should work differently. I'm not saying MS should shut linux down or anything, i just think people should stop thinking there's something "heroic" about making open-source software, while microsoft must be "evil" because they want money for the things they make.
what open source is is noticing coke has put out a new product, creating a competing product with a remarkable simmilar taste, and giving it away for free without the fancy packaging, all while having no clue whats in coke's product.
i seem to recall burger king's advertising campaign that there fries taste just like mc donnelds, they didnt get sued, and look at the myrid of products out there that clone brand name producta, and alot of them accualy are half way decent clones, none of them have ever been sued, so i dont see why the soft ware industry should be any different.
the fine comment says that microsoft will do anything it can to hurt / destroy linux. linux is 2nd on MS's list of "bad things" right behind this aleing economy. What MS is doing is basicaly 2 things, redirecting SCO's comment that not even microsoft is safe, by pointing back at linux, causing more FUD for linux, and setting them selves up to assure the destruction of their #2 threat all while making themselves look like the good guys to the unwitting customers. There also averting the attention of customers from the news that there considering charging for patches and service packs. it seems that that one simple, free statment, has earned MS alot of credibility in the eyes of unwitting consumers and PHB's, while damaging there enemies.
Fine Comment in MS Press Release:
ps: you all owe us your souls!
alright this proves it all this SCO FUD is really a conspiricy by MS to kill out favorite penguin. Well its time for Tux to kick some ass, break out his rocket launcher, and go Q3 on Bill's ass. And once Tux has gibbed the hell out of bill, its time to move onto those stupid sco exec's and soon there after the pesky riaa! i can just see the headlines now, killer penguin to promote the worlds best (and only) operation system, free of charge to all users. well now that we all conclusivly know that MS is behind all the FUD, we can get on with our lives while tux goes on his fragging spree... (anyone up for making a Q3 mod, player = tux, kill bill, at sco's head quarters, and maby throw in the riaa and metallica too!)
ok i hate to do this, but i love google so heres my angry flame along with the other 1billion posted here.
/. my inbox! lol
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googlehole #1. the search subjects were intentionaly broad, and in todays modern world if you seacrh for just a product, odds are your looking to buy it, so what does google do? it provides a mirad of links to retailers. if you intended to find product specs try doing a search for "blah produck specs"! wow i got 300 pages of product reviews!!!
googlehole#2. skewed synynoms. ok so i searched for "apple" im online, apple is the worlds 2nd largest computer retailer, i wonder why i got 100+ pages relevent to apple! im online! anyone see a technological link here? your on the inter net, i want an apple. try "apple fruit" or "apple -computer" duh!
googlehole#3. book learning, ok so i want some information, i goto google and do a search on it, i dont see any books here! whats going on, well what the fuck did you msn fuck heads expect, books to pop out of your computer screen, research on the internet is ment as an additive to library research. i would imagin if google did start displaying books in pdf format the publishers would go on an riaa sueing spree! the newyour times "closed archives" isnt googles fault, it is the direct result of an action by the nyt, CLOSING THEIR ARCHIVES! and besides if i wanted news, news.google.bom works great! thats probably 50% of the reason they put it up!
finally if a "group mind doesnt speak for everybody, it does speak for the majority of the groop. an important idea to remember in customer services if that you cant please everyone all the time, but you can please most most of the time!" which is exactly what google does! by the logic of a group mind, the people who use the web orginize it how they like, google searches the web to turn up the most relevent results to this "group mind", well if this group mind involves most the web users, wouldnt that be who google's targeting? google seems kinda like a democracy, what msn's article is trying to state is that. "google sucks because it cant read your mind, and orginize the web for you the way you want it"
and let us not forget that msn is trying to push the popularity of their search engin over that of speficaly google!
most, if not all of these "googleholes" can be overcome by using sensable searches for topics.
the problem is not google, or even the webs orginization, its simply that some users and the author of this article do not understand how to perform a search!
all i see in this article is a short winded "msn is better because we said so, and now were gonna bash google to prove it" bullshit article!
im not posting ac, and id like to hear any arguments aganst my opinion, just dont
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no i did, back in 1985, im sueing, you SCO goons watch out, i got my IP leagal team digging up shit on you from back in the days of calendra... oh wait damn IBM beat me to it! well ill just sue them over intelectual rights aswell!!
taken from the mirror: http://www.yukon.curvedspaces.com/s.htm warning mirror has pop-ups! unpreventable, the host forces them.
11. Defendant, RICHARD C. TIETJENS a/k/a MORLEY DOTES, (hereinafter referred to a "TlETJENS") is an individual and is believed to be a resident and domiciliary of the State of Oregon. TIETJENS is sui juris before this Court. Plaintiff is informed and believes that BROWER is an officer, director and principal of SPAMHAUS and SPEWS.
Richard Tietjens is not an officer, director or principal of Spamhaus. Spamhaus categorically does not believe Richard Tietjens is or ever has been an officer, director or principal of SPEWS.
12. Defendant, ADAM BROWER, (hereinafter referred to a "BROWER") is an individual and is believed to be a resident and domiciliary of the State of Illinois. BROWER is sui juris before this Court. Plaintiff is informed and believes that BROWER is an officer, director and principal of SPAMHAUS and SPEWS.
ok, im off to the patent office to patent internet and snail-mail spam chagrge 30$ a msg!
easiest way i could see of doing it would be getting a *untainted* copy of the version of the software/kernel SCO claims was ripped off, md5 it, compild the source SCO presents with the code that IBM ripped of, MD5 it, are the md5's the same? if yes = software/kernel does have SCO's shit in it, if no SCO's in alot of shit for purgery and more!
ENV flame="on" "Exactly, the fact they aren't prepared to even present a single example of this makes me very suspicious." Ummm, they said they are prepared to present examples in court. So are you less suspicious now?
In court, behind closed doors, if the code has found its way into any OPEN SOURCE software, obvisouly many people will have access to it, so its now worthless to keep it a secret, its not, revel the problem lines of code, if the Linux user community makes changes to the offending program, then thats self implication! if not, well its still right there for anyone to read!
"It would be magnitudes easier for SCO devels to steal code from the Linux kernel (even unintentionally) than for the Linux kernel to steal code from SCO. " SCO had a working relationship with IBM on the Monterey project. Obviously IBM then had access to SCO source. SCO is now claiming persons within IBM took said access to SCO source and used it in some Linux component.
yes, and linux is all open source, meaning ANYONE has access to the code, including those SCO goones, only a FEW people at IBM had access to SCO's UnixWare code, making it FAR less likely it was leaked.
"Anyhow, as some have already mentioned, who's to say that the code lines in question weren't already in the public domain prior to them even being in SCO?" The Judge at the court hearing.
Only if he was paid off by an unnamed company which owns the rights to UnixWare, called SCO, oops, that sliped...
"I'm doubling-down on IBM if they want to play a chicken-and-the-egg fight in this suit." I'll take a bet that IBM settles the case out of court. i got $100 here that says SCO either gets laughed out of court, trys to delay the hearing, looses, and retries the case on a techinacality, or simply gets smashed into 1986 by IBM.
well just from my point of view, and im not trying to be a troll, i love linux, is that linux isnt an os, and linux needs to be an os. most home users and windo-aholics are user to kernel+gui+few needed shell apps=os. linux is the kernel, gnu is a huge set of open source software for the linux kernel, so some smart guy said lets put the two togeather, this was good, to an extent. Some one, hopefully linus himself will realize the need for an accual "linux" gui and shell. As in a gui that interacts better and intigrates better with the kernel, because it was coded by the same guy/group! a shell that is powerful, and a breaze to use, that can do everything the gui can do because it was coded by the same guy/group. I know this is alot to expect one person to do, but instead of adding milloions of new features to the kernel, which has more than enough for most users *currently* why not get a stable kernel, and start working on the REST of the os? then in a few years when more hardware comes out, and new features NEED to be implimented, they work on the kernel some more. this is what sets desktops apart from servers. Desktops need to be standardizied, servers need to be stable and 100% compatable with all the new goodies on the market. thats just my $.02, and i dont mean to offend anyone, cuz i do love linux, this is just what i see it needs in order to become a desktop OS. options arnt the issue. look at windows, i could use the windows cd burner, nero, roxio easy coaster creater, blindwrite wuite, etc..., but all these arnt bundles with the os... and i can still use litestep, blackbox, cloud9, openbox, etc on windows, but it defauls to One choice. thats the problem that confuses n00bs, more choices at install time=more confusion. Set a defauls, install bash etc, option:kde/gnome... option:mozilla/netscape/someotherl337browser... option: windowmaker/litestep/enlightenment/etc (with explination and screenshots)... let users decide some stuff, but dont include a cd-burner on the install cd's, or a cool game, just because you can, if you would like to provide these features, leave a txt document explaining the place on your servers where these apps can be found, and instructions on how to install, or if you really must include an "extras" cd, that should NEVER be asked for at install time, with a nice GUI for locating and installing software on the disc. say a nice freshmeat.net looking gui which queries the disc (and possibly your servers) looking for the queried topic, lists them to the user with a simple discription, and pretty screen shots, etc. and allows the user to install them right from there... and one last thing, a standardizied menu, i still am more than confused when i install a great new app from freshmeat, and look in all the menu's, of course its not there, so i goto
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in soviet russia, players use the games, without jersy numbers, or team names!
the truth about the whole DSL vs Cable war is this, if your looking at broadband, and are unsure which way to go, dont go online on /. or any other source and read about it (sure its not a bad idea, but dont base your decision on it.) the only real way to tell which is best for you is to ask friends and neighbors in your area how their services compare, and pick the one that seems the best. not only that but make a few calls to the help desk's ask some questions, etc... pick the service your most satisfied with, because in reality, every service is different. the godlike 10Mb cable service from maine might only deliver a whoping 128k in New York. so its left yet again for the consumer to decide which is best!
maby they wont modify the kernel... just a guess, but couldnt wmp be provided sepratly from the kernel on the embedded system? i dont know much about embedded systems, and i hate windows media player, but thats just my $0.02