Amazing all those years I used a boat anchor Inspiron that weighed around 7.8 pounds and never had a problem holding in on my lap. During the dot com hay days I flew to the west cost for work and back home each week. I spent a lot of hours in airports and hotel rooms with my laptop on my lap and never suffered from fatigue. I also would carry it in my arm from server room to server room with it open and on with no problems.
I guess each person is different. I personally don't like the tiny weenie laptops that feel so fragile that if I sneeze they will blow across the room and break. I do know my iBook 14" has fallen from a table top height over 5 times and still works. The only damage my laptop has is the r key is missing from someone knocking a 1200 + page hardback book off of a shelf which landed with the corner of the binding hitting my keyboard. I would be curious how well a 990 gram notebook would take the impact of a 5 pound book from 2 feet?
One problem is Apple's computer are a bit picky on what ram they will work with. The generic junk might or might not work. The pricewatch lowball companies are fine for items you can return to the vendor for repairs or replacement. You buy Joe's Crabshack and Memory fine quality ram and have a problem who do you return it to? I would never pay Apple's high prices for memory but it is like Dell, Gateway, HP anything you add it generally more expensive then the lowball prices. I have found Dell monitors cheaper from 3rd parties then Dell. How does that work?
I didn't know Apple was manufacturing hard drives these days. The hard drive failed not the assemblies designed by Apple. So just what drive manufacturer should Apple buy their drives from that never fail? So in what way was Apple's design deficient? If you bought a laptop without an extended warranty shame on you. My Dell I bought in 2000 cost me $3800 and had 14 major repairs to it in the 3 years it worked. The final repair came 3 days before the warranty ran out. My laptop was put on a shelf 2 weeks later when it died the final death. So why do you have an Apple product? Please go buy one of those fine products from Dell.
Well you might see some of the other Mac user types if you didn't frequent gay bars in the search for... um...um.... knowledge of computer user types... thats it.
By the way I am engineer and have been driven by logic for the 30 years that I have had an interest in personal computers. Those are adult years in the workforce years not kiddie years.
I guess it would be just as true to say *most* (not all) Windows users are low brow and uneducated types that gravitate to the cheapest things in life. I am sure *most* (not all) Windows users have a special place in their heart for Yugos the automotive equivalent of the $399 PC.
Generalizations are rather bad when making a argument. Do you have demographics of the average Mac user vs Windows user? Do a search on Google and you might just be amazed at *most* (but not all) Mac users are educated and made a choice based on a Mac works best for their needs not due to lack of knowledge that is common in the average Windows user.
Why does Joe Sixpack buy a Windows based computer rather then a Linux/BSD based computer, even when they are cheaper? It is because of the basic lack of knowledge of Windows users. These people are the masters of the Wizards in Windows not educated users. Ask the average long time Windows user why he uses Windows and the advantage of that platform over the competing ones and he most likely will have the same response as some of the/. readers.. 60% more expensive, no software, if everyone is using it it must be good, and they know no other.
I personally use a Mac because I made a logical choice and dislike working on computers. I am a network person but only work on computers because I am forced to in my job. Also I don't remember seeing very many metrosexuals at the last security conference I went to but sure saw a lot of Mac laptops there. If there is a group that is farthest from being a group of metrosexuals that is one.
I am so glad the Novell has decided to give away free telephone support for a free product. No wonder they are on the verge of collapse if they are giving you free software and then letting you talk to a person on the phone for support. Wait thats not right if YOU PAY Novell then you get phone support. Being a dumb ass is why you equate a free product with a paid for support product.
I hope to God you don't work in IT and actually are allowed to make architecture decisions. Hey lets use SUSE cuz it is free and Novell supports it. Wrong blowzo Novell will only support it if you PAY them. Please show me all of the phone numbers for all of the free distributions so I can give them to people when they have a problem.
Find me 1 single company or person that gives free phone support for any free version of *nix. You use something free to make your point and then when your balls are nailed to the door you resort to name calling and see see Novell supports it. So you need to add in the cost of a support contract for a single user copy of SUSE from Novell. What is the cost of that? The online support for *nix is terrible for the non-technical user. The *nix forums are notorious for flaming newbies with what they consider a trivial problem that anyone worthy of using *nix should know.
Oh by the way how does a person that has one computer get on the internet to see how to fix his networking problem that won't let him on the internet. If Yast, rpm, and.deb are so wonderful then why is the in internet full of 1000's of questions about installation issues? The people that put the packages together do a fine job but since they aren't being paid they don't fix all problems because they don't have the resources.
You know it is better to be a moron then a fuckhead with a brain the size of his penis like you. As for enlightenment the closest you get to being enlightened is when you pull your head out of your ass once a year to see if winter is over.
And if I bolt a snow plow on a Yugo I have a truck. Bolting garbage on the outside of something is not as clean or appealing as having it built in. Having a Bluetooth dongle and a cam with a cable is not the same thing as built in.
By the way loading of a free *nix is not the same thing as a OS that is supported by a company. So if you have a problem with your install who are you going to call for free support? Go ahead and load iTunes and MS Office on your version of *nix and make sure that you have that special MS support number for Office versions running on *nix.
Why are you bothering with using a Gateway computer you can buy barebones laptops and build your own. Hey you can save even more buying an LCD panel and duct taping a small computer to the back of it.
Why don't you compare similar items. An OS with telephone support, an Office package with phone support, built in features that actually work rather then bolt on items that may or may not work, and when you buy your bolt on crap don't go for the lowest price bargain bin trash go with a name brand item.
I am all for OSS but you might as well say the Gateway is a rip off since includes software. You and I might enjoy playing with computers but 99% of computer users are just that users. Any version of *nix is not as good for the average user because of the lack of a support structure.
If I asked my wife to compile something so she can install a program she needs to run she would tell me to kiss her ass as would 99% of the computer users out there. Talk to someone at Best Buy and ask them how many people come in looking to buy a new computer because their old one is full of spyware and they would rather buy a new one then redo the old one. The Gateway and the MacBook are both directed at those users and the MacBook just happens to do the job better. The right tool for the right job I always say.
Did you buy one of the RCA video disks? I bought one and 2 months later RCA quit making them. It lasted a while till the needle died then had to throw it out. I have the same track record as you do so I always wait till there seems like a clear leader and then proceed to still buy the wrong one. Need a DVD-RAM?
Isn't there a little law in America about a group of companies getting together to force someone out of business or artificially setting prices? I thought price fixing was a no no. Publicly anouncing that you and your buddies are going to get together and put Apple out of the music business sounds like prce fixing to me. But what do I know I barely RTFA.
Yes it is the companies' right to get workers as cheap as they can. It is also my right as a taxpayer to have a say in the laws of the country and I say if they want foreign workers then take their company overseas. All of the major companies are outsourcing any ways. Take 100% of your development to India and see the quality of what you get for the $$$ spent.
Do you know a single person who calls Dell's award winning support thinks it is worth a crap? You get what you pay for... "Thanks for calling 7-11... I mean Dell, Robert from New Jersey speaking"
I use to work for a company that moved the majority of their programming over seas and they are getting a lot of crap. Asking a person from India to program work flow software when they have no concept of the work flow doesn't work well. Add in the hassles of time zone differences and dealing with the language barriers. Yes even between 2 English speaking people there is a language barrier. All these companies want to do is have their cake i.e. low cost workers from overseas and eat it too i.e. don't have the cost or problems of out sourcing overseas.
I think we should change the tax laws and if you decide to move jobs from America to overseas then the capital outlay to do it isn't tax deductible. You are saving your $$$ by going overseas why should I as a taxpayer subsidize moves overseas any more then allow companies to bring their overseas workers here?
It seems like there are a zillion websites that work just fine with almost every browser under the sun. I have ordered stuff from Dell on my Mac no problem at all. I have never had a major e-commerce site not work with alternative browsers no matter what the operating system was. It isn't a matter of being impossible it is a matter of stupidity. Amazon and Dell welcome every one's money. The moron who did this site was too lazy to make sure the crap they put out with the Windows Wizard for Super Web Masters 2005 didn't try to keep other browsers out when it generated code.
I would say you are most likely right there. Old people still might surprise you. My parents are more accepting of my kid's way of dress then I am. I find a lot of the old people care less about the appearance then I do. I guess when you have lived a full life you don't worry about the small things.
I don't see why being a minority is a problem. I have found people in rural areas a bit more accepting of different people then in the big cities. It just appears that in the big cities they are more accepting it is just that they ignore the entire planet and never get to know their neighbors. If my son can dress it the crap he does and no one shoots him on sight in a rural area they will accept anyone.
Damn I better disconnect my 4 Meg connection and go back to dialup. I live just outside a very small town and have high speed access. By the way the small town is 691 people.
I moved to a rural area 9 years ago and I lost so many of those big city conveniences. I lost all the metal detectors to protect my kids. I lost the drug dealer on every corner. I lost all the street gangs. I lost all of the crime. I lost having to lock my doors. I lost having my car broken into. I lost the traffic. I lost $250k houses and replaced them with $50k to $100k houses that are bigger with land measured in acres. I lost having to pay $10 a person to see a movie (In the next town admission for 2 adults to a movie, a large popcorn, and 2 20 oz bottles of pop is $10). I lost crowded schools (my daughters high school graduating class will be 18.) I lost crowded state parks. I lost fighting for hours every weekend to put my boat in at the lake. I lost crowded camp grounds. I lost all the lovely air pollution. I lost 3 hour waits to renew my drivers license. I lost high priced doctor's office visits (a visit to the local hospital emergency room at 2 AM, x-rays, doctor's fee, cast, pain medication, and follow up for a broken hand was $409. The one local doctor who still make house calls for $35 moved into town 5 years ago.) I lost having to worry if my wife breaks down that the car load of 5 or 6 teens that pull up behind her are up to no good. I lost the shitty workers at local stores (they bag my groceries for free and ask which of my cars I was driving today so they can carry them out.) I lost the fear and distrust of the big city (the day I moved in I was at the local hardware store and forgot my check book they just asked me for my phone number and address and would send me a bill if I didn't make it back to the store.) Your right I lost all of those wonderful big city things.
As for moving your kids so what, I know more then a dozen IT workers who moved over 500 miles to get a better position. Sorry you didn't get to enjoy the dot-com boom but I did and still had the life style of a rural area. I flew to either the west coast or east coast every week and loved it. At this point in my life I want to make a change and I am back in school full-time as is my wife something I would never be able to afford if I still lived back east.
In rural areas of South Dakota you can buy houses for $7.5k - $20k that are the equivalent of the older homes that are rental property in most larger cities. Want a lake front home that is $150k to $350k. It is a small lake and you can only drive your jet ski for 60 miles one way and have to turn back.
Spend the rest of your life trying to find a job where you can't be replaced is a dream. When you grow up and want to join the big boy's world come back and talk to the rest of us. You remind me of the whiners on my first job after I finished my engineering degree they pissed and moaned that I was paid a lot more then them. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices to achieve something. You want your cake and eat it to. Sometimes you have to make changes in life you don't want for the benefit of your family or career and relocating is one of them. You think you will ever find a position where you are indispensable you are nuts. Virtually anything and anyone can be outsourced over seas.
The point of the article is that while you can hire a moron 10 time zones away that has no idea what a vertical producer of something does for $5 an hour you can also hire an American in a rural area $20 an hour who does understand your company and market. In a rural area that person can live better on $20 an hour then you can on $40 an hour in most big cities because of a lower cost of living. I am willing to bet a lot of IT workers are paid a bit below $40 an hour. The midwestern work ethic is something you most likely wouldn't understand either. If I was going to open any kind of manufacturing or high tech company it would be in a rural midwestern area because people out here tend to be less likely to job hop because of limited opportunities and they tend to stay with the same companies for many years because most people here never move away. Where did it say in TFA that they are tr
That makes it even more impressive. My daughter's graduating class in South Dakota will be 18 students. My nearest neighbor is 1.5 miles away. If it can be done in an area with such a low population density affordably it is insane to think that it can't be done in Nashville or other large city at an even more cost effective rate.
By the way when you learn to read those links were in US dollars so it doesn't matter the source was from Australia their scans were of US magazines. If your in Canada with the exchange rate then the prices would have to be even higher then US prices. I could believe $14k Canadian for a top of the line Mac with a laser printer but your $3k for a PC with a laser printer is even more crazy. I am awaiting your next bullshit that the PC didn't have a printer then the Mac shouldn't have either. Why would you pick the top of the line Mac to compare against the cheapest possible PC when shopping. Guess what Macs are 1/8 the price of a PC I can get a mini for $499 and an Alienware cost $4k. Makes as much sense as you do.
I do know bullshit when I see it. Prove the Macs were $14k and the PC were $3k. You have no proof. No proof == bullshit. I at least went with retail prices and they were no where close to what you said. I went with the top of the line Mac and it was $9.3k no educational discount. The cheapest price I could find for a laser printer was just over $2.1k.
So either you are stupid enough to pay $5k over list or the Mac came with a laser printer. Since the cheapest laser printer at the time was $2.1k then you were buying a PC for $800 and in 1988 you weren't getting a PC for that price. In 1984 I bought a PC with 16k one floppy no monitor by passed the educational price because I had a friend who worked for IBM and got it for me at less then educational price of $1495.
So I still call bullshit. Find a single reference on website other then your own that shows a PC in 1988 with a laser printer for any where near $3k.
I am really glad you figured out how to make a living playing computer games but the rest of us tend to use computers to make a living. I own zero games. I never have bought a game for myself in the 27 years I have been using computers. No one computer can be all things to all people. Different job requires different tools. You pick your tool I'll pick mine just that my tool choice has no spyware, viruses, or Windows doesn't make it the wrong choice. Wait that was redundant drop the spyware and viruses cuz everyone knows those are features of the Windows operating system that you need for your games.
I am calling bullshit. How about some real numbers not your fantasy. In 1988 you would pay around $2500 for a laser printer. So your comparing a top of the line Mac with a laser printer verses a screw driver shop PC with an Epson FX-80.
Here is your $3000 bullshit computer. Go to the middle of the page and there is a picture of a Tandy ad for 1989 selling a 386 no monitor no mouse for $8499. Tandy's prices were comparable to other companies at the time. So please explain how you were able to buy computers with laser printers for 1/3 of a normal PC.
Here is from 1988 Computer Shopper scroll near the bottom of the page. A cheap laser printer was $2263. A Compaq 286 was $4855.
Here is the price of the top of the line Mac in 1988 and it is $9300.
The basic problem with comparing Apples vs PC years ago was the difference in the hardware Apple used and feature sets. Apple used SCSI the PC MFM drives. How about the Sony floppies that could eject a disk? How about the ability to run multiple monitors? Does that even work 100% in XP almost 20 years later? How about built in networking. You may not like AppleTalk but it worked fine for small work groups. How about file sharing?
Today it is much easier to compare the hardware because Apple uses standard hardware. Besides the totally bogus numbers you had to pull out of some dark crevice when it came to PC prices you were close to what Apple's prices were except you forgot a laser priner, SCSI drives, networking, and the ability to run multiple monitors to the PC's price.
There is one small problem with your argument. In the New Testament Jesus used the Old Testament as proof of his authority. If Jesus taught that the Old Testament was valid then how can a person claim to be a Christian and in the next breath ignore what Jesus said?
As for the "story book value" of the Old Testament a lot of practical living was in there. Wonder why getting tattoos would be a bad idea in a society with no antibiotics? Wonder why one would not want to eat pork in a society that might not fully cook meat if at all?
You statement the Bible doesn't fit with modern society there by it isn't true makes no sense. A fundamental rule in the Bible is thou shall not kill. If society decides tomorrow that killing is ok then you would argue that thou shall not kill was a story, guideline, or general advice? If you are going to claim to be a follower of Jesus then you should follow his teachings not pick and choose what fits your current lifestyle.
I guess none of us will be 100% sure who is right until it is too late and we are dead. Each person needs to decide the for themselves and not let other people decide for them.
Why is everyone so worried of an imposing view if it is so ridiculous? If there so many holes in ID then it will become apparent to a serious student.
The military is trained to kill that is their job. If you notice how successful the US military was when battling opposing armies they are very good at killing and taking land. Our gov't has decided the military is now a police force and trying to use them as such. Being retired military I am amazed at what is asked of troops. We now are suppose to kill the enemy, then police the enemy, then rebuild the enemy, and then convert the enemy to our way of thinking. I was taught to kill the enemy during my 21 years in the military. In the words of General George Patton "make that son of a bitch die for his country"
I think someone at the top should have had a plan for just what do they do with the rattlesnake they locked in the closet. W and friends failed to realize that when you invade a country the local inhabitants don't take kindly to it if you weren't invited.
The fun in Iraq will go on till the next election at which time the current administration will pull out showing the wonderful success or the opposition will get elected on the promise to pull out. So we might as well sit tight cuz we are screwed till the next election. You can't hurt lame ducks and this duck is crippled.
Of course no one in the world would ever lie. If there are no logs then the equipment will be returned if there are logs then who ever stated there were no logs should be arrested for impeding a police investigation. They might have wiped the logs upon receiving the request. The police might be checking to see if they were lied to so they can press charges for tampering with evidence in a criminal investigation
So what your saying it is OK to publish troop movements in Iraq and there are no limits to what is allowed to be published? This is a totally different case that exposes an operative, that would be like publishing undercover cops names and pictures while they are undercover. Since when does freedom of speech allow the journalist's actions to endanger the life of another?
What the hell is wrong with the weight of the Dells? I just switch shoulders every so often. Great way to build up the back muscles for hiking with a full pack besides if you are mugged they will be at a disadvantage carrying a Dell and trying to run. Hard to run dragging a laptop on the ground behind you.
I agree with you once Apple moves over to the Intel CPU things should be interesting to say the least. Plus the bonus of actually being able to benchmark on the same CPU will end the performance debate but not the usability debates.
I am not saying Mac are better I am saying that the comparison needs to be a computer with as many features as possible the same as the Mac has.
It seems hardly fair to take the most stripped down version of a computer and compare it with one that has a lot of options. Apple doesn't make a barebones computer there is a certain level of user experience that Apple wants all users to have.
I understand your premise but you are comparing a system that has a feature set that would cost several hundred dollars more to add to the Dell.
You might not need or want that feature set and the Dell would make the better choice in your case but if you did need or want that feature set the Dell becomes as expensive as a mini plus you get to find out first hand about Dell's award winning service.
I spent close to $4000 on a Dell laptop in 2000 that every single part on it was replaced at least twice except for the processor and the damn thing died for the last time 4 days after my warranty was up. The Dell repair guy had coffee at my house over 16 times in 3 years.
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Amazing all those years I used a boat anchor Inspiron that weighed around 7.8 pounds and never had a problem holding in on my lap. During the dot com hay days I flew to the west cost for work and back home each week. I spent a lot of hours in airports and hotel rooms with my laptop on my lap and never suffered from fatigue. I also would carry it in my arm from server room to server room with it open and on with no problems.
I guess each person is different. I personally don't like the tiny weenie laptops that feel so fragile that if I sneeze they will blow across the room and break. I do know my iBook 14" has fallen from a table top height over 5 times and still works. The only damage my laptop has is the r key is missing from someone knocking a 1200 + page hardback book off of a shelf which landed with the corner of the binding hitting my keyboard. I would be curious how well a 990 gram notebook would take the impact of a 5 pound book from 2 feet?
One problem is Apple's computer are a bit picky on what ram they will work with. The generic junk might or might not work. The pricewatch lowball companies are fine for items you can return to the vendor for repairs or replacement. You buy Joe's Crabshack and Memory fine quality ram and have a problem who do you return it to? I would never pay Apple's high prices for memory but it is like Dell, Gateway, HP anything you add it generally more expensive then the lowball prices. I have found Dell monitors cheaper from 3rd parties then Dell. How does that work?
I didn't know Apple was manufacturing hard drives these days. The hard drive failed not the assemblies designed by Apple. So just what drive manufacturer should Apple buy their drives from that never fail? So in what way was Apple's design deficient? If you bought a laptop without an extended warranty shame on you. My Dell I bought in 2000 cost me $3800 and had 14 major repairs to it in the 3 years it worked. The final repair came 3 days before the warranty ran out. My laptop was put on a shelf 2 weeks later when it died the final death. So why do you have an Apple product? Please go buy one of those fine products from Dell.
Well you might see some of the other Mac user types if you didn't frequent gay bars in the search for... um...um.... knowledge of computer user types... thats it.
/. readers.. 60% more expensive, no software, if everyone is using it it must be good, and they know no other.
By the way I am engineer and have been driven by logic for the 30 years that I have had an interest in personal computers. Those are adult years in the workforce years not kiddie years.
I guess it would be just as true to say *most* (not all) Windows users are low brow and uneducated types that gravitate to the cheapest things in life. I am sure *most* (not all) Windows users have a special place in their heart for Yugos the automotive equivalent of the $399 PC.
Generalizations are rather bad when making a argument. Do you have demographics of the average Mac user vs Windows user? Do a search on Google and you might just be amazed at *most* (but not all) Mac users are educated and made a choice based on a Mac works best for their needs not due to lack of knowledge that is common in the average Windows user.
Why does Joe Sixpack buy a Windows based computer rather then a Linux/BSD based computer, even when they are cheaper? It is because of the basic lack of knowledge of Windows users. These people are the masters of the Wizards in Windows not educated users. Ask the average long time Windows user why he uses Windows and the advantage of that platform over the competing ones and he most likely will have the same response as some of the
I personally use a Mac because I made a logical choice and dislike working on computers. I am a network person but only work on computers because I am forced to in my job. Also I don't remember seeing very many metrosexuals at the last security conference I went to but sure saw a lot of Mac laptops there. If there is a group that is farthest from being a group of metrosexuals that is one.
I am so glad the Novell has decided to give away free telephone support for a free product. No wonder they are on the verge of collapse if they are giving you free software and then letting you talk to a person on the phone for support. Wait thats not right if YOU PAY Novell then you get phone support. Being a dumb ass is why you equate a free product with a paid for support product.
.deb are so wonderful then why is the in internet full of 1000's of questions about installation issues? The people that put the packages together do a fine job but since they aren't being paid they don't fix all problems because they don't have the resources.
I hope to God you don't work in IT and actually are allowed to make architecture decisions. Hey lets use SUSE cuz it is free and Novell supports it. Wrong blowzo Novell will only support it if you PAY them. Please show me all of the phone numbers for all of the free distributions so I can give them to people when they have a problem.
Find me 1 single company or person that gives free phone support for any free version of *nix. You use something free to make your point and then when your balls are nailed to the door you resort to name calling and see see Novell supports it. So you need to add in the cost of a support contract for a single user copy of SUSE from Novell. What is the cost of that? The online support for *nix is terrible for the non-technical user. The *nix forums are notorious for flaming newbies with what they consider a trivial problem that anyone worthy of using *nix should know.
Oh by the way how does a person that has one computer get on the internet to see how to fix his networking problem that won't let him on the internet. If Yast, rpm, and
You know it is better to be a moron then a fuckhead with a brain the size of his penis like you. As for enlightenment the closest you get to being enlightened is when you pull your head out of your ass once a year to see if winter is over.
And if I bolt a snow plow on a Yugo I have a truck. Bolting garbage on the outside of something is not as clean or appealing as having it built in. Having a Bluetooth dongle and a cam with a cable is not the same thing as built in.
By the way loading of a free *nix is not the same thing as a OS that is supported by a company. So if you have a problem with your install who are you going to call for free support? Go ahead and load iTunes and MS Office on your version of *nix and make sure that you have that special MS support number for Office versions running on *nix.
Why are you bothering with using a Gateway computer you can buy barebones laptops and build your own. Hey you can save even more buying an LCD panel and duct taping a small computer to the back of it.
Why don't you compare similar items. An OS with telephone support, an Office package with phone support, built in features that actually work rather then bolt on items that may or may not work, and when you buy your bolt on crap don't go for the lowest price bargain bin trash go with a name brand item.
I am all for OSS but you might as well say the Gateway is a rip off since includes software. You and I might enjoy playing with computers but 99% of computer users are just that users. Any version of *nix is not as good for the average user because of the lack of a support structure.
If I asked my wife to compile something so she can install a program she needs to run she would tell me to kiss her ass as would 99% of the computer users out there. Talk to someone at Best Buy and ask them how many people come in looking to buy a new computer because their old one is full of spyware and they would rather buy a new one then redo the old one. The Gateway and the MacBook are both directed at those users and the MacBook just happens to do the job better. The right tool for the right job I always say.
Did you buy one of the RCA video disks? I bought one and 2 months later RCA quit making them. It lasted a while till the needle died then had to throw it out. I have the same track record as you do so I always wait till there seems like a clear leader and then proceed to still buy the wrong one. Need a DVD-RAM?
Isn't there a little law in America about a group of companies getting together to force someone out of business or artificially setting prices? I thought price fixing was a no no. Publicly anouncing that you and your buddies are going to get together and put Apple out of the music business sounds like prce fixing to me. But what do I know I barely RTFA.
Yes it is the companies' right to get workers as cheap as they can. It is also my right as a taxpayer to have a say in the laws of the country and I say if they want foreign workers then take their company overseas. All of the major companies are outsourcing any ways. Take 100% of your development to India and see the quality of what you get for the $$$ spent.
Do you know a single person who calls Dell's award winning support thinks it is worth a crap? You get what you pay for... "Thanks for calling 7-11... I mean Dell, Robert from New Jersey speaking"
I use to work for a company that moved the majority of their programming over seas and they are getting a lot of crap. Asking a person from India to program work flow software when they have no concept of the work flow doesn't work well. Add in the hassles of time zone differences and dealing with the language barriers. Yes even between 2 English speaking people there is a language barrier. All these companies want to do is have their cake i.e. low cost workers from overseas and eat it too i.e. don't have the cost or problems of out sourcing overseas.
I think we should change the tax laws and if you decide to move jobs from America to overseas then the capital outlay to do it isn't tax deductible. You are saving your $$$ by going overseas why should I as a taxpayer subsidize moves overseas any more then allow companies to bring their overseas workers here?
It seems like there are a zillion websites that work just fine with almost every browser under the sun. I have ordered stuff from Dell on my Mac no problem at all. I have never had a major e-commerce site not work with alternative browsers no matter what the operating system was. It isn't a matter of being impossible it is a matter of stupidity. Amazon and Dell welcome every one's money. The moron who did this site was too lazy to make sure the crap they put out with the Windows Wizard for Super Web Masters 2005 didn't try to keep other browsers out when it generated code.
I would say you are most likely right there. Old people still might surprise you. My parents are more accepting of my kid's way of dress then I am. I find a lot of the old people care less about the appearance then I do. I guess when you have lived a full life you don't worry about the small things.
I don't see why being a minority is a problem. I have found people in rural areas a bit more accepting of different people then in the big cities. It just appears that in the big cities they are more accepting it is just that they ignore the entire planet and never get to know their neighbors. If my son can dress it the crap he does and no one shoots him on sight in a rural area they will accept anyone.
Damn I better disconnect my 4 Meg connection and go back to dialup. I live just outside a very small town and have high speed access. By the way the small town is 691 people.
I moved to a rural area 9 years ago and I lost so many of those big city conveniences. I lost all the metal detectors to protect my kids. I lost the drug dealer on every corner. I lost all the street gangs. I lost all of the crime. I lost having to lock my doors. I lost having my car broken into. I lost the traffic. I lost $250k houses and replaced them with $50k to $100k houses that are bigger with land measured in acres. I lost having to pay $10 a person to see a movie (In the next town admission for 2 adults to a movie, a large popcorn, and 2 20 oz bottles of pop is $10). I lost crowded schools (my daughters high school graduating class will be 18.) I lost crowded state parks. I lost fighting for hours every weekend to put my boat in at the lake. I lost crowded camp grounds. I lost all the lovely air pollution. I lost 3 hour waits to renew my drivers license. I lost high priced doctor's office visits (a visit to the local hospital emergency room at 2 AM, x-rays, doctor's fee, cast, pain medication, and follow up for a broken hand was $409. The one local doctor who still make house calls for $35 moved into town 5 years ago.) I lost having to worry if my wife breaks down that the car load of 5 or 6 teens that pull up behind her are up to no good. I lost the shitty workers at local stores (they bag my groceries for free and ask which of my cars I was driving today so they can carry them out.) I lost the fear and distrust of the big city (the day I moved in I was at the local hardware store and forgot my check book they just asked me for my phone number and address and would send me a bill if I didn't make it back to the store.) Your right I lost all of those wonderful big city things.
As for moving your kids so what, I know more then a dozen IT workers who moved over 500 miles to get a better position. Sorry you didn't get to enjoy the dot-com boom but I did and still had the life style of a rural area. I flew to either the west coast or east coast every week and loved it. At this point in my life I want to make a change and I am back in school full-time as is my wife something I would never be able to afford if I still lived back east.
In rural areas of South Dakota you can buy houses for $7.5k - $20k that are the equivalent of the older homes that are rental property in most larger cities. Want a lake front home that is $150k to $350k. It is a small lake and you can only drive your jet ski for 60 miles one way and have to turn back.
Spend the rest of your life trying to find a job where you can't be replaced is a dream. When you grow up and want to join the big boy's world come back and talk to the rest of us. You remind me of the whiners on my first job after I finished my engineering degree they pissed and moaned that I was paid a lot more then them. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices to achieve something. You want your cake and eat it to. Sometimes you have to make changes in life you don't want for the benefit of your family or career and relocating is one of them. You think you will ever find a position where you are indispensable you are nuts. Virtually anything and anyone can be outsourced over seas.
The point of the article is that while you can hire a moron 10 time zones away that has no idea what a vertical producer of something does for $5 an hour you can also hire an American in a rural area $20 an hour who does understand your company and market. In a rural area that person can live better on $20 an hour then you can on $40 an hour in most big cities because of a lower cost of living. I am willing to bet a lot of IT workers are paid a bit below $40 an hour. The midwestern work ethic is something you most likely wouldn't understand either. If I was going to open any kind of manufacturing or high tech company it would be in a rural midwestern area because people out here tend to be less likely to job hop because of limited opportunities and they tend to stay with the same companies for many years because most people here never move away. Where did it say in TFA that they are tr
That makes it even more impressive. My daughter's graduating class in South Dakota will be 18 students. My nearest neighbor is 1.5 miles away. If it can be done in an area with such a low population density affordably it is insane to think that it can't be done in Nashville or other large city at an even more cost effective rate.
By the way when you learn to read those links were in US dollars so it doesn't matter the source was from Australia their scans were of US magazines. If your in Canada with the exchange rate then the prices would have to be even higher then US prices. I could believe $14k Canadian for a top of the line Mac with a laser printer but your $3k for a PC with a laser printer is even more crazy. I am awaiting your next bullshit that the PC didn't have a printer then the Mac shouldn't have either. Why would you pick the top of the line Mac to compare against the cheapest possible PC when shopping. Guess what Macs are 1/8 the price of a PC I can get a mini for $499 and an Alienware cost $4k. Makes as much sense as you do.
I do know bullshit when I see it. Prove the Macs were $14k and the PC were $3k. You have no proof. No proof == bullshit. I at least went with retail prices and they were no where close to what you said. I went with the top of the line Mac and it was $9.3k no educational discount. The cheapest price I could find for a laser printer was just over $2.1k.
So either you are stupid enough to pay $5k over list or the Mac came with a laser printer. Since the cheapest laser printer at the time was $2.1k then you were buying a PC for $800 and in 1988 you weren't getting a PC for that price. In 1984 I bought a PC with 16k one floppy no monitor by passed the educational price because I had a friend who worked for IBM and got it for me at less then educational price of $1495.
So I still call bullshit. Find a single reference on website other then your own that shows a PC in 1988 with a laser printer for any where near $3k.
I am really glad you figured out how to make a living playing computer games but the rest of us tend to use computers to make a living. I own zero games. I never have bought a game for myself in the 27 years I have been using computers. No one computer can be all things to all people. Different job requires different tools. You pick your tool I'll pick mine just that my tool choice has no spyware, viruses, or Windows doesn't make it the wrong choice. Wait that was redundant drop the spyware and viruses cuz everyone knows those are features of the Windows operating system that you need for your games.
I am calling bullshit. How about some real numbers not your fantasy. In 1988 you would pay around $2500 for a laser printer. So your comparing a top of the line Mac with a laser printer verses a screw driver shop PC with an Epson FX-80.
Here is your $3000 bullshit computer. Go to the middle of the page and there is a picture of a Tandy ad for 1989 selling a 386 no monitor no mouse for $8499. Tandy's prices were comparable to other companies at the time. So please explain how you were able to buy computers with laser printers for 1/3 of a normal PC.
Here is from 1988 Computer Shopper scroll near the bottom of the page. A cheap laser printer was $2263. A Compaq 286 was $4855.
Here is the price of the top of the line Mac in 1988 and it is $9300.
The basic problem with comparing Apples vs PC years ago was the difference in the hardware Apple used and feature sets. Apple used SCSI the PC MFM drives. How about the Sony floppies that could eject a disk? How about the ability to run multiple monitors? Does that even work 100% in XP almost 20 years later? How about built in networking. You may not like AppleTalk but it worked fine for small work groups. How about file sharing?
Today it is much easier to compare the hardware because Apple uses standard hardware. Besides the totally bogus numbers you had to pull out of some dark crevice when it came to PC prices you were close to what Apple's prices were except you forgot a laser priner, SCSI drives, networking, and the ability to run multiple monitors to the PC's price.
There is one small problem with your argument. In the New Testament Jesus used the Old Testament as proof of his authority. If Jesus taught that the Old Testament was valid then how can a person claim to be a Christian and in the next breath ignore what Jesus said?
As for the "story book value" of the Old Testament a lot of practical living was in there. Wonder why getting tattoos would be a bad idea in a society with no antibiotics? Wonder why one would not want to eat pork in a society that might not fully cook meat if at all?
You statement the Bible doesn't fit with modern society there by it isn't true makes no sense. A fundamental rule in the Bible is thou shall not kill. If society decides tomorrow that killing is ok then you would argue that thou shall not kill was a story, guideline, or general advice? If you are going to claim to be a follower of Jesus then you should follow his teachings not pick and choose what fits your current lifestyle.
I guess none of us will be 100% sure who is right until it is too late and we are dead. Each person needs to decide the for themselves and not let other people decide for them.
Why is everyone so worried of an imposing view if it is so ridiculous? If there so many holes in ID then it will become apparent to a serious student.
Everyone including our government seem to forget
military!=police
The military is trained to kill that is their job. If you notice how successful the US military was when battling opposing armies they are very good at killing and taking land. Our gov't has decided the military is now a police force and trying to use them as such. Being retired military I am amazed at what is asked of troops. We now are suppose to kill the enemy, then police the enemy, then rebuild the enemy, and then convert the enemy to our way of thinking. I was taught to kill the enemy during my 21 years in the military. In the words of General George Patton "make that son of a bitch die for his country"
I think someone at the top should have had a plan for just what do they do with the rattlesnake they locked in the closet. W and friends failed to realize that when you invade a country the local inhabitants don't take kindly to it if you weren't invited.
The fun in Iraq will go on till the next election at which time the current administration will pull out showing the wonderful success or the opposition will get elected on the promise to pull out. So we might as well sit tight cuz we are screwed till the next election. You can't hurt lame ducks and this duck is crippled.
Of course no one in the world would ever lie. If there are no logs then the equipment will be returned if there are logs then who ever stated there were no logs should be arrested for impeding a police investigation. They might have wiped the logs upon receiving the request. The police might be checking to see if they were lied to so they can press charges for tampering with evidence in a criminal investigation
So what your saying it is OK to publish troop movements in Iraq and there are no limits to what is allowed to be published? This is a totally different case that exposes an operative, that would be like publishing undercover cops names and pictures while they are undercover. Since when does freedom of speech allow the journalist's actions to endanger the life of another?
What the hell is wrong with the weight of the Dells? I just switch shoulders every so often. Great way to build up the back muscles for hiking with a full pack besides if you are mugged they will be at a disadvantage carrying a Dell and trying to run. Hard to run dragging a laptop on the ground behind you.
I agree with you once Apple moves over to the Intel CPU things should be interesting to say the least. Plus the bonus of actually being able to benchmark on the same CPU will end the performance debate but not the usability debates.
I am not saying Mac are better I am saying that the comparison needs to be a computer with as many features as possible the same as the Mac has. It seems hardly fair to take the most stripped down version of a computer and compare it with one that has a lot of options. Apple doesn't make a barebones computer there is a certain level of user experience that Apple wants all users to have. I understand your premise but you are comparing a system that has a feature set that would cost several hundred dollars more to add to the Dell. You might not need or want that feature set and the Dell would make the better choice in your case but if you did need or want that feature set the Dell becomes as expensive as a mini plus you get to find out first hand about Dell's award winning service. I spent close to $4000 on a Dell laptop in 2000 that every single part on it was replaced at least twice except for the processor and the damn thing died for the last time 4 days after my warranty was up. The Dell repair guy had coffee at my house over 16 times in 3 years.