it's not stealing, its COPYING. There is a difference. No, see, this is where you are wrong. The file traders are taking a product without paying for it. That is the meat and potatoes of it. The rest of this crap about sharing and trading is bullshit, pure and simple.
The sharers are not making a profit, they are not claiming the material is theirs. So, I walk into the store and take a walkman home without paying for it. I am not making a profit, as this is for personal use, and I am not saying I made the walkman. By your definition ( which I have already proven false ), I did not steal.
I am sorry, but you are missing the point. The fact is, this is someone else's property, and these folks are stealing it. No, it doesn't matter that there are worse crimes out there, and that the penalties are out of line for the crime. These people knew the terms going into this, and they could have choosen NOT to share.
It is not our god given right to download music. It is a product, just like any other, and stealing is stealing, regardless of the venue.
Now, you want to talk about how it SHOULD be done, and my rather negative opinion of the RIAA, that's something different altogether.
I said it before, and I'll say it again: It's amazing how people's biases will translate into assumptions.
I am a kick ass boss to work for, if you do your job to your best ability. My team's moral is always high, and people in my crew have a lot of fun.
On the rare occation when I have a bad employee, I do everything in my power to get them to come around, and when I've finally given up on them, it's because they aren't interested in keeping their jobs.
Your tone seems to indicate that you've been on the recieving end of this before. Instead of flaming folks online, it might be in your best interest to ask yourself why?
Alright, why does that fact that you encode your songs in a format such as ogg vorbis make it important enough to mention? Let me guess, MP3 is the evil creator like Windows and ogg vorbis is the free and open clone savior, like Linux. This shit makes me sick. Who gives a rat's ass?Obviously enough, you do.
Here's a little suggestion for a little mind: Don't assume.
The only plausible answer, for me, is to neither purchase RIAA goods, nor participate in copyright infringement. I wonder why this state of mind is so hard to grasp? Because people feel they are entitled to whatever they want. That's how people think in this day and age, and honestly, it's really rather depressing.
I haven't purchased a new CD in years due to my feelings towards the RIAA. I listen to the radio or my old cds/tapes ( converted to vorbis, of course ).
This is the same trick I use when I am trying to fire an employee. I make them reread the company policy, and sign that they did, so the next violation, I can boot them legally.
Now extend this. You sign your soul to these folks, and they catch you sharing files again. Water tight case as far as they and the court systems are concerned.
I'll bet that none of these expensive studies ever include the cost of cleaning up after the virus/worm of the week that comes with running Microsoft NT/2000/XP.
Funny thing: If you have a compent IT staff, you don't suffer from most virii/worms or any other nasties that get into your network.
Example: My network didn't get touched by blaster, sobig, ect. And I didn't have to lift a finger, having already put in place preventative measures.
It will be amusing to see the outcome of this, as the court could order Microsoft to remove the bursting functionality from Windows Media Player, which would render it worthless for streaming video, in addition to a hefty fine. Now this, this I would like to see.
MS has more money than GOD, so whatever they are forced to pay won't be anything special. But to have to strip out functionality out of one of their corner stones for the media center...I would have to sit back and smile.
Apparently spammers aren't going to sit by and let people try to ignore their unwanted pitches.Too bad my users and I are behind a trained spamassassin, then, eh?
Now, you might say, "well hey, my linux box had none of that, wasn't patched, no firewall, nothin!" but think for a few seconds. These viruses were programed for windows, not linux/any other os
Is this really in response to my post? Look what I said: Education is needed, regardless of OS.
That is not to say MS is still less secure than most other big named OSes out there. They just can't seem to figure it out, despite all the problems they've had.
And people wonder why techies are grumpy...
Or, as in my case, homocidal.
Seriously, there isn't a reason in the world why this many large companies were hit by Blaster ( and later, Sobig ). None, and you can bitch and moan all you like, but I should know. I administrate 50 computers directly, and another 100+ in my spare time. And you know what? Not one was hit. NOT ONE.
MS is at fault, the root of it, to be sure. However, this is an education issue that must be addressed, regardless of the OS.
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it's not stealing, its COPYING. There is a difference.
No, see, this is where you are wrong. The file traders are taking a product without paying for it. That is the meat and potatoes of it. The rest of this crap about sharing and trading is bullshit, pure and simple.
The sharers are not making a profit, they are not claiming the material is theirs.
So, I walk into the store and take a walkman home without paying for it. I am not making a profit, as this is for personal use, and I am not saying I made the walkman. By your definition ( which I have already proven false ), I did not steal.
I am sorry, but you are missing the point. The fact is, this is someone else's property, and these folks are stealing it. No, it doesn't matter that there are worse crimes out there, and that the penalties are out of line for the crime. These people knew the terms going into this, and they could have choosen NOT to share.
It is not our god given right to download music. It is a product, just like any other, and stealing is stealing, regardless of the venue.
Now, you want to talk about how it SHOULD be done, and my rather negative opinion of the RIAA, that's something different altogether.
Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
If SCO setup an entertainment program, I would be more than willing to chip in a few bucks.
I mean, you just can't make this stuff up.
Well, unless you are SCO, I mean.
So why hasn't anyone brought suit against SCO for the same reasons?
I said it before, and I'll say it again: It's amazing how people's biases will translate into assumptions.
I am a kick ass boss to work for, if you do your job to your best ability. My team's moral is always high, and people in my crew have a lot of fun.
On the rare occation when I have a bad employee, I do everything in my power to get them to come around, and when I've finally given up on them, it's because they aren't interested in keeping their jobs.
Your tone seems to indicate that you've been on the recieving end of this before. Instead of flaming folks online, it might be in your best interest to ask yourself why?
Whoa, I never said stealing was OK, mkay? I was just pointing that you'd have to be incredibly stupid to do something like this.
Amazing, isn't it, how our biases translate into assumtions?
Alright, why does that fact that you encode your songs in a format such as ogg vorbis make it important enough to mention? Let me guess, MP3 is the evil creator like Windows and ogg vorbis is the free and open clone savior, like Linux. This shit makes me sick. Who gives a rat's ass?Obviously enough, you do.
Here's a little suggestion for a little mind: Don't assume.
The only plausible answer, for me, is to neither purchase RIAA goods, nor participate in copyright infringement. I wonder why this state of mind is so hard to grasp?
Because people feel they are entitled to whatever they want. That's how people think in this day and age, and honestly, it's really rather depressing.
I haven't purchased a new CD in years due to my feelings towards the RIAA. I listen to the radio or my old cds/tapes ( converted to vorbis, of course ).
The idea is the same, if the motivation behind it is not.
And you'd have to be deaf, dumb, blind and stupid to think this is a good idea ( that's right Mr McBride, I'm lookin' right at you )
This is the same trick I use when I am trying to fire an employee. I make them reread the company policy, and sign that they did, so the next violation, I can boot them legally.
Now extend this. You sign your soul to these folks, and they catch you sharing files again. Water tight case as far as they and the court systems are concerned.
Make that *without.
Too damned early, not enough caffeine yet.
...I can buy a different motherboard with that on it, thank you very much.
Free market. It's a bugger
...but I still don't have any friends. :( ( no emails magically appeared )
So, would this be like 2200 p4s running at 10ghz?
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I'll bet that none of these expensive studies ever include the cost of cleaning up after the virus/worm of the week that comes with running Microsoft NT/2000/XP.
Funny thing: If you have a compent IT staff, you don't suffer from most virii/worms or any other nasties that get into your network.
Example: My network didn't get touched by blaster, sobig, ect. And I didn't have to lift a finger, having already put in place preventative measures.
It will be amusing to see the outcome of this, as the court could order Microsoft to remove the bursting functionality from Windows Media Player, which would render it worthless for streaming video, in addition to a hefty fine.
Now this, this I would like to see.
MS has more money than GOD, so whatever they are forced to pay won't be anything special. But to have to strip out functionality out of one of their corner stones for the media center...I would have to sit back and smile.
I use bayesin filtering server side, and I tag ( X-Spam-Status ) the messages that don't pass. It's up to the client as to what they do with it.
Next big item on eBay: portable EMP generators.
Three words: SIGN. ME. UP.
Spammers HAVE to have a weaknes. .
I find most people, when a hammer is liberally applied to the head, find their weakness to be blunt objects.
They tend to dislike them.
Apparently spammers aren't going to sit by and let people try to ignore their unwanted pitches.Too bad my users and I are behind a trained spamassassin, then, eh?
Here's an idea: Pay 50 bucks for decent performers, and DON'T pay for the bad ones.
It's almost like we are all sheep. They say "Go to this concert, go to this concert", and we, being the sheep we are, do it, regardless of any talent.
Now, you might say, "well hey, my linux box had none of that, wasn't patched, no firewall, nothin!" but think for a few seconds. These viruses were programed for windows, not linux/any other os
Is this really in response to my post? Look what I said: Education is needed, regardless of OS.
That is not to say MS is still less secure than most other big named OSes out there. They just can't seem to figure it out, despite all the problems they've had.
And people wonder why techies are grumpy... Or, as in my case, homocidal. Seriously, there isn't a reason in the world why this many large companies were hit by Blaster ( and later, Sobig ). None, and you can bitch and moan all you like, but I should know. I administrate 50 computers directly, and another 100+ in my spare time. And you know what? Not one was hit. NOT ONE. MS is at fault, the root of it, to be sure. However, this is an education issue that must be addressed, regardless of the OS.
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