The primary goal is, and always will be (for those who are truly concerned with computing matters) the quality of the software.
Your 1st priority should be improving your software. If you need a break/find some free time, then go ahead and let other people know about your software: but don't try to sell it to them. If they can't tell good software from bad software, then they it isn't worth your time to try to convince them otherwise.
(serious question) How do you address 64Gb on a 32-bit processor?
I've heard of Solaris x86 doing it to get up to like 8 gig, but a developer himself said that it was very icky stuff and not worth it... something involving a memory overlay.
Just wondering, but what exotic hardware are you talking about? I'm seeing less and less cases where this is true, every day.
As a nice little side-note, I started using FreeBSD because Linux didn't support my nic [well].. I'm not sure if things have changed since then, to be honest.. Its an Intel Etherexpess PRO/10+
I'm not sure how it compares with the *BSD support
I can speak for Free and Net's USB stack, and Free's drivers... Both are coming along quite well, getting better and better every day (Free imported Net's stack and worked from there, and of course Net is taking major improvements back into itself).. As for support:
Human Interface Devices (anything with buttons and dials) Keyboards and Mice Printers Iomega Zip 100 Drive The ADMtek USB ethernet devices.. these are the LinkSys USB100TX, Billionton USB100, the Melco LU-ATX, the D-Link DSB-650TX, the SMV 2202USB, and the ADMtek AN986 Pegasus evaluation board. The CATC USB-EL1201 USB ethernet devices.. these are the CATC Netmate, Netmate II, and the Belkin F5U111. KLSI's ethernet devices.. Linksys USB10T, Entrega USB-NET-E45, Peracom Ethernet Adapter, the 3Com 3c19250, the ADS Technologies USB-10BT, the ATen UC10T, the Netgear EA101, the D-Link DSB-650, the SMB 2102USB and 2014USB, and the Corega USB-T. And thats it.
DCS helped the guy first off, and then instead of a "thank you" or a "oh, cool" he got lipservice about his help not being good enough. Yes, we both (I speak for him because we were discussing this on IRC at the time) have respect for users, but respect can be lost. dcs needed to reply no more than see UPDATING, yet he even went a step further and pointed out what he had to do. Everyone is free to try -CURRENT, but it is highly advised against for people who aren't developing at any level. One thing for sure is that tech support is _not_ readily available for it.
dcs just pointed out that -CURRENT may not be what he should be running, and then went ahead to point him to UPDATING, which again, needs to be read before the make world process continues.
The mentality of a user like you (I've seen it in many linuxites) is that FreeBSD people have sticks up their asses and think that they are the most elite people to ever walk the earth.
For as long as you enter the discussion with that mentality, the result of the conversation will be negative. We didn't call anyone lame, or dumb (*we were talking to another freebsd user, anyway*) yet we get pointed at and called elitist.
Well, we aren't. Perhaps some people are, but if you point a finger at a group and generalize, then the battle has already been lost.
As for the atomosphere of a community, I don't really see/understand/feel the vibe behind the idea that if two people use the same OS, they should be friends.
Think about what you say, because being called elitist, when you've gone out of your way to help people, hurts.
Try scrolling down? I think you should be a little more polite to dcs and I, we are pretty busy here. the changes were about the 17th of Novemember, if that helps. You must recompile the kernel before make world. Daniel C. Sobral basically just pointed out to you exactly what you had to did, and all you had was some sarcastic comment. *sigh*
Again, read the handbook to see who -CURRENT is for and who it is not.
If anything thats the other way around. Go to the freebsd-current archives, this date was set circa December 15th. And the -CURRENT feature freeze started the 15th, a day BEFORE debian. Slashdot just isn't the quickest on BSD things all the time, you have to understand.
Many, many things are new with 4.0. Dillion reworked a lot of the VM subsystem. Much more USB drivers, including a dozen or so USB ethernet adapters. Uh, lots of stuff has been being worked on. As for two week freeze period, it isn't too short as basically before the freeze everything was going well (minus the small softupdates fiasco) as the only stuff in -CURRENT is (supposed to be) tested by the programmer. I'm using my time to make what ever doesn't compile with -Wall -Werror go by without a hitch. And I'm not sure where you got that 15 day quote. I talked to Jordan about 15 minutes ago and he said he'll play it by ear-- but -RELEASE should come at the end of this month.
I could have sworn I recall reading about the entire spectrum of EM being found in space.. Gamma rays being the most popular, but hey, X-Rays and Gamma rays arent' too different. Is this that big of a discovery?
This DeCSS stuff doesn't apply to all of us.. I don't even have a DVD drive, yet practically every article is about this lawsuit crap now. Will there be a way to at least filter it out easily?
Err, are you looking for a minidisc? Search for MD and MP3 from your search engine of choice, there are some excellent pages out there that help the idiots transfer mp3s to MD (As if it wasn't self explainatory)
Send them a nice, polite, wordly mail at support@blizzard.com I don't think phone is the way to go yet, because it is expensive to have an 800 number-- wait a few more months;)
Polite letters by snail mail will work too, and in fact may be more effective. Do not flame, yell, or demand.
It would also help to say that you have to further interest in purchasing Blizzard games for windows. And, here is the hardest part, don't buy Blizzard games for windows anymore. They won't port their games if they realize that all of the linux users buy them too..
All information contained herein comes from Eivind Elkund and Jordan K. Hubbard- I'm just the middle man. A few weeks ago, jkh informed me that FreeBSD INC. was donating a box to Loki. Cool.
Twenty minutes ago, I talked to EE about it, and he said that Loki already tested their games under FreeBSD with linux compat, and will continue to do so now that they've gotten a nice donation.. and if it doesn't work with compat, tweak the linux version so that it does. EE also pointed out that the reason they didn't recompile their licensed programs was because in the cases so far, Loki's license has only allowed them to port to Linux.
People also say bet on black, or bet on red. The public has overinflated nearly all of the stocks you have mentioned above..
Investors put their money in stocks that have stable, secure values. People who put their money in these stocks are gambling: VA, redhat, etc. could suddenly lose popularity and crash.. Buying Caldera is gambling that it will become popular.
If Linux had no competition, the developers would get lazy, and you know it. And it'd only be a hop, skip, and a jump away from having companies like Red Hat, Caldera, etc. start pushing around the little guy. Their software may be free, but that doesn't prevent them from trying to eliminate the competition. You don't want Linux to be the only OS in existance.
Nor do you want one of the BSDs to be the only one in existance.
Nor do you want Solaris, Be, HP-UX, VMS, OS/2, or Windows NT to be the only one in existance..
Instead of trying to replace each other, try to learn from each other.
The biggest competitors with XFree86 would be the commerical X servers- AccelX comes to mind.
There is no reason to reinvent X from the ground up.
Berlin et. al, I'm sure you guys have swell intentions, and you guys will succeed, but only if you don't aim for the standard-desktop market. It may be in your best interest to aim for a market that the clunky X servers don't dominate on, such as low-end boxes doing dedicated tasks with users, or well, something else besides trying to get onto every desktop! Most of the energy put into Berlin should go into making some quality X servers.
640x480-- why was this pointed out? standard television is what, 525 lines? I'm not sure how long the lines are, however.. but I'd assume 640x480 would be about the equivlent.
This stuff wont' fly for HDTV, however.
(First? At least its the first intelligent, most likely)
As the kernel needs not support for AGP. Only your BIOS's chipset is concerned with the fact that the card is AGP.. That and your display manager (Your X server, for most of you) must support the chipset on the card.
Your X server (for most of you, the an XFree86 server) needs to be concerned. Not your kernel.
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The primary goal is, and always will be (for those who are truly concerned with computing matters) the quality of the software.
Your 1st priority should be improving your software. If you need a break/find some free time, then go ahead and let other people know about your software: but don't try to sell it to them. If they can't tell good software from bad software, then they it isn't worth your time to try to convince them otherwise.
Oh, recent intel processors.
Which ones? From the way you said it, it made it seem like you could take any x86 box and address 64gb.
I've heard of Solaris x86 doing it to get up to like 8 gig, but a developer himself said that it was very icky stuff and not worth it... something involving a memory overlay.
As a nice little side-note, I started using FreeBSD because Linux didn't support my nic [well].. I'm not sure if things have changed since then, to be honest.. Its an Intel Etherexpess PRO/10+
Not as if I'd switch back now, I'm hooked. ;)
And the person to blame for adding in support for 17 USB nics is Bill (William) Paul (wpaul), who
likes to go by Anti-Bill.
I can speak for Free and Net's USB stack, and Free's drivers... Both are coming along quite well, getting better and better every day (Free imported Net's stack and worked from there, and of course Net is taking major improvements back into itself)..
As for support:
Human Interface Devices (anything with buttons and dials)
Keyboards and Mice
Printers
Iomega Zip 100 Drive
The ADMtek USB ethernet devices.. these are the LinkSys USB100TX, Billionton USB100, the Melco LU-ATX, the D-Link DSB-650TX, the SMV 2202USB, and the ADMtek AN986 Pegasus evaluation board.
The CATC USB-EL1201 USB ethernet devices.. these are the CATC Netmate, Netmate II, and the Belkin F5U111.
KLSI's ethernet devices.. Linksys USB10T, Entrega USB-NET-E45, Peracom Ethernet Adapter, the 3Com 3c19250, the ADS Technologies USB-10BT, the ATen UC10T, the Netgear EA101, the D-Link DSB-650, the SMB 2102USB and 2014USB, and the Corega USB-T.
And thats it.
Debian had a set freeze date since Novemember? I thought they played it by eye.
dcs needed to reply no more than see UPDATING, yet he even went a step further and pointed out what he had to do. Everyone is free to try -CURRENT, but it is highly advised against for people who aren't developing at any level. One thing for sure is that tech support is _not_ readily available for it.
dcs just pointed out that -CURRENT may not be what he should be running, and then went ahead to point him to UPDATING, which again, needs to be read before the make world process continues.
The mentality of a user like you (I've seen it in many linuxites) is that FreeBSD people have sticks up their asses and think that they are the most elite people to ever walk the earth.
For as long as you enter the discussion with that mentality, the result of the conversation will be negative. We didn't call anyone lame, or dumb (*we were talking to another freebsd user, anyway*) yet we get pointed at and called elitist.
Well, we aren't. Perhaps some people are, but if you point a finger at a group and generalize, then the battle has already been lost.
As for the atomosphere of a community, I don't really see/understand/feel the vibe behind the idea that if two people use the same OS, they should be friends.
Think about what you say, because being called elitist, when you've gone out of your way to help people, hurts.
It as not as good as linux for a personal workstation because..?
I've used both on my workstation, and FreeBSD is the only one that remains.
Try scrolling down?
I think you should be a little more polite to dcs and I, we are pretty busy here.
the changes were about the 17th of Novemember, if that helps. You must recompile the kernel before make world.
Daniel C. Sobral basically just pointed out to you exactly what you had to did, and all you had was some sarcastic comment. *sigh*
Again, read the handbook to see who -CURRENT is for and who it is not.
If anything thats the other way around.
Go to the freebsd-current archives, this date
was set circa December 15th.
And the -CURRENT feature freeze started the 15th, a day BEFORE debian.
Slashdot just isn't the quickest on BSD things all the time, you have to understand.
Many, many things are new with 4.0.
Dillion reworked a lot of the VM subsystem.
Much more USB drivers, including a dozen or so USB ethernet adapters.
Uh, lots of stuff has been being worked on.
As for two week freeze period, it isn't too short
as basically before the freeze everything was going well (minus the small softupdates fiasco)
as the only stuff in -CURRENT is (supposed to be) tested by the programmer.
I'm using my time to make what ever doesn't compile with -Wall -Werror go by without a hitch.
And I'm not sure where you got that 15 day quote. I talked to Jordan about 15 minutes ago and he said he'll play it by ear-- but -RELEASE should come at the end of this month.
Why didn't you just disable the mouse?
It isn't really needed for the install.
I could have sworn I recall reading about
the entire spectrum of EM being found in space..
Gamma rays being the most popular, but hey,
X-Rays and Gamma rays arent' too different.
Is this that big of a discovery?
(1st?)
This DeCSS stuff doesn't apply to all of us..
I don't even have a DVD drive, yet practically
every article is about this lawsuit crap now.
Will there be a way to at least filter it out easily?
(1st?)
Err, are you looking for a minidisc?
Search for MD and MP3 from your search engine of
choice, there are some excellent pages out there
that help the idiots transfer mp3s to MD
(As if it wasn't self explainatory)
Polite letters by snail mail will work too, and in fact may be more effective. Do not flame, yell, or demand.
It would also help to say that you have to further interest in purchasing Blizzard games for windows. And, here is the hardest part, don't buy Blizzard games for windows anymore. They won't port their games if they realize that all of the linux users buy them too..
All information contained herein comes from Eivind Elkund and Jordan K. Hubbard- I'm just the middle man.
A few weeks ago, jkh informed me that FreeBSD INC. was donating a box to Loki. Cool.
Twenty minutes ago, I talked to EE about it, and he said that
Loki already tested their games under FreeBSD with linux compat, and will continue to do so
now that they've gotten a nice donation.. and if it doesn't work with compat, tweak the linux version
so that it does.
EE also pointed out that the reason they didn't
recompile their licensed programs was because
in the cases so far, Loki's license has only allowed them to port to Linux.
People also say bet on black, or bet on red.
The public has overinflated nearly all of the stocks you have mentioned above..
Investors put their money in stocks that have stable, secure values.
People who put their money in these stocks are gambling: VA, redhat, etc. could suddenly lose popularity and crash..
Buying Caldera is gambling that it will become popular.
And now the IPO. I've talked to some friends of founders and they all ;)
want to know how much cash is in it for them.
(1st?)
If Linux had no competition, the developers would get lazy, and you know it. And it'd only be a hop, skip, and a jump away from having companies like Red Hat, Caldera, etc. start pushing around
the little guy. Their software may be free, but that doesn't prevent them from trying to eliminate the competition. You don't want Linux to be the only OS in existance.
Nor do you want one of the BSDs to be the only one in existance.
Nor do you want Solaris, Be, HP-UX, VMS, OS/2, or Windows NT to be the only one in existance..
Instead of trying to replace each other, try to learn from each other.
The biggest competitors with XFree86 would be the commerical X servers- AccelX comes to mind.
There is no reason to reinvent X from the ground up.
Berlin et. al, I'm sure you guys have swell intentions, and you guys will succeed, but only if you don't aim for the standard-desktop market. It may be in your best interest to aim for a market that the clunky X servers don't dominate on, such as low-end boxes doing dedicated tasks with users, or well, something else besides trying to get onto every desktop!
Most of the energy put into Berlin should go
into making some quality X servers.
640x480-- why was this pointed out?
standard television is what, 525 lines? I'm not sure
how long the lines are, however.. but I'd assume 640x480 would be about the equivlent.
This stuff wont' fly for HDTV, however.
(First? At least its the first intelligent, most likely)
That sounds a lot like Bill Gates' dream.
What would be the difference between his and yours?
A monopoly is a monopoly..
As the kernel needs not support for AGP.
Only your BIOS's chipset is concerned with the fact that the card is AGP..
That and your display manager (Your X server, for most of you) must support the chipset on the card.
Your X server (for most of you, the an XFree86 server) needs to be concerned. Not your kernel.